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[NightSymphony]

-waves her hands wildly around-

I have a Solas related question!!

When I chose my specialty (Knight Enchanter), I got a Leliana dialogue but not a Solas dialogue. But I know that when I chose the same profession as a human in a previous game, I definitely got Solas dialogue. Does anyone know what the prompt is for Solas to speak this conversation tree?

You have to speak to him before you do his mission All New Faded For Her.

[NightSymphony]

Bioware has totally ruined me on games where I have to play a male.  I have no interest in those games anymore. I would really like to finish AC3 one of these days but the thought of playing a male character just....blah.

 

The Witcher was only $2.99 on GOG last week..I thought about getting it but it really holds no interest to me. I just really can not get into a male character these days. I hope that changes because I would like to make a male Inquisitor for Dorian one of these days.

[ChuChu]

You have to speak to him before you do his mission All New Faded For Her.

I will try this, thanks 8D

[Uirebhiril]

Bioware has totally ruined me on games where I have to play a male.  I have no interest in those games anymore. I would really like to finish AC3 one of these days but the thought of playing a male character just....blah.

 

The Witcher was only $2.99 on GOG last week..I thought about getting it but it really holds no interest to me. I just really can not get into a male character these days. I hope that changes because I would like to make a male Inquisitor for Dorian one of these days.

 

I've had no trouble making male characters for pen and paper games, but always felt a bit disconnected from characters in video games where you have to play as a male. Oddly enough, in games where I can play as whatever gender I want I'll have at least as many male characters as I do female.

 

Except Shepard. Never once played a male Shepard. Couldn't stand the voice, so it's been femShep all the way.

[NightSymphony]

I made a male mage in Origins so I could romance Morrigan, but that was the only time I've made a male character.  That was a lot of fun though. He flirted with all the girls, which pissed Morrigan off and was just a complete arse to everyone.  It's easier for me to play an arse when playing a male for some reason.

[wildannie]

I've never completed a bioware game with a male character,  I just can't...and I do consider that my ability to play other games has been seriously messed about by the immersion of BW games  buuuuut,  I did force myself to play Witcher 1 and 2 when TW2 came out and have grown from disliking Geralt, to liking him quite a bit.  I definitely play them with a different mindset than I do a Bioware game but I've grown to enjoy them... my desktop wallpaper has been Iorveth since TW2 came out.  Geralt's pretty much celibate in my games though,  the romance scenes are cringeworthy IMO.

 

TW3 is really really amazing,  I'm actually quite blown away by it,  22hours and 8% complete... they'll probably have announced wolfhunt by the time I've finished this one  .  So I think its probably TW3 that's keeping usual posters away,  I'm a regular lurker but have been lurking much less these last few days (still keeping an eye on things though  ).  I'm looking forward to reading everyone's thoughts on JoH,  I loved it but it is rubbish that old gen and PS4 had to wait so long.

[Uirebhiril]

I made a male mage in Origins so I could romance Morrigan, but that was the only time I've made a male character.  That was a lot of fun though. He flirted with all the girls, which pissed Morrigan off and was just a complete arse to everyone.  It's easier for me to play an arse when playing a male for some reason.

 

My Morrigan-romancing Brosca was amazing. The most fun I'd had in a game in a long time, and this was long after my canon Dalish Warden run. But so worth it. He wasn't an arse, but he was certainly in it for himself as much as possible. Quite a good fit for Morrigan, really...

 

But I changed him in that world state to be an elf mage, so alas. He is but a footnote in my more amusing gaming history, and Kieran has an elf papa instead. 

 

Not too keen on the Witcher games, but I've developed a healthy adoration for Pillars of Eternity. Why Aloth have to remind me so much of Sand...?

[NightSymphony]

Sadly..my computer can not play Pillars of Eternity or I would be playing it right now..probably crushing on Aloth.

 

I'll probably play The Witcher games someday. They do look pretty good.

[Cee]

I have the first two Witcher games but haven't played them yet.

 

Tried to get some Solavellan stuff written, wound up coming up with a drabble in the form of a letter between a f!Cousland and Leliana. I think I was mildly inspired by someone posting stats about a lack of F/F pairings in general and how Cullen is in ~20% of AO3 DAI fics but Leliana features in only 6% (I wonder what % is Solavellan). I did want to finally do a Leliana romance run in DAO but I wouldn't play another Cousland. Still, this works in fanfic. I think I'll expand the letters thing over time alongside my Solavellan stuff.

 

edit: I posted the first.

 

Nevermind that I was trying to work on an original story again tonight.

[Caddius]

My guess is they're all playing the Witcher.

HEATHENS.

Ain't nothing wrong with being a heathen.

I only popped in because I didn't want to have to dig through 200 pages at once. Again. 

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll be over in the corner muttering about getting the money for saltpeter and Grapeshot. 

[Gwyvian]

It's interesting to see all these preferences about the gender of protagonists and the reasons behind them. At the moment I really just don't care what gender I am in-game as long as I get to experience the world in a certain way, but I actually always used to prefer playing male protagonists for some reason I can't quite explain, but Bioware games actually made me realize that I can create some really great female characters, too; but then, these games have such a strong emphasis on personal connections to teammates that it made it worth my while to try out all kinds of different combinations, both male and female, and I started enjoying playing female characters as much (if not more with certain PT's) as I used to with male characters. Yet I would still say it's more in balance now than anything else, it really depends on how well my various PT's turned out.

 

I mean, with AC and Witcher (I adore both), I'm only "connected" in terms of just liking or disliking the protagonist (disliking I say academically, because I happen to like them all ), since their gender seems like such an insignificant detail on most levels; the plot, the environment, all the little nuances and the mechanics, even the romances where there are any, all of these things are super absorbing to me and in such games the protagonist is merely a vessel to carry my mind. Like with a good book, the protagonist need not be my own gender for me to thoroughly enjoy a great romance, for instance, between two characters. To my mind, a person is a person, and while there definitely are differences between the thinking of men and women, I've studied communication long enough to realize that there are far less differences than we assume, growing up as we do in a culture where gender distinctions are such a big deal. Plus I have the advantage of growing up in two cultures, which grants me some objectivity perhaps; things that are traditionally "male" or "female" attributes in people are sometimes switched in other cultures or are dispersed differently, so that gives me an "ability" to be able to totally connect with a male protagonist and feel his pain and joy just just as I can with a female protagonist... or rather, I don't see the differences that I think that I'm supposed to, had I had these things assigned and written in stone.

 

Or something like that, I'm just musing aloud here. I find this subject fascinating, especially reading all these takes on this subject.

 

Yep, I like gender studies, too.   I really miss university... 

[Cee]

I think, for me, it comes down to choice, and if I can play as a woman, I will. I do tend to think humans are pretty similar, but it feels different, even if subtly so, to go through a game's world and the character's journey as a woman. But when that option doesn't exist, I can definitely relate to male protagonists without a problem. That's something that I think is common. Growing up, in multiple cultures, girls are expected to be able to relate to male protagonists, but  boys may not be. I think that's changing to a certain degree, especially with greater awareness.

 

For DA, it's only Inquisition that has made me consider maybe creating a male character to play at one point or another due to Dorian and Cassandra. DAO, I disliked Morrigan and I could go for Leliana as a woman if I wanted, and DA2 LIs were open to any Hawke. I liked that DAI gave female elves open to men and women the most options, due to adding in Cullen and Solas as LIs during the delay. That was a small factor in choosing to make a Lavellan, but ultimately I made one since I'd wanted to and also since I was bored of making humans. And now, here I am.

 

I wrote half of this post before someone said something horribly hurtful, so I will cut this short, but I do love all of the perspectives on this topic as well and love discussing it.

[Caddius]

*Tis' the post right above my head*

Yeah, it's normal for girls to be able to relate to male protagonists and characters, because that's what they're mostly exposed to, while boys growing up are generally handed flat female characters put in for the sake of being there and female so people can't call chauvinism. That, or the female characters are streamlined into bland 'role model' types, because no one can handle females acting like they're people.   (Batman exists. There's no need to make any other role models for anyone of any gender. We've been there, done that.)

Boys and girls who grew up with only boys as actual characters making shows and books and games with only boys as actual characters, basically.

I think KotOR was the first time I played a female character. (Also the first one to give the option.) Combined with Hermione Granger,  I don't have any problem getting into the skin of a female character. Mind, a lot of people who know me would only question if I could connect with a male protagonist. 

I also like hearing the different perspectives. 

[RogueBait]

MTC WHERE ARE YOU YOU BEAUTIFUL CREATURE.

 

Uh, I mean. Hi guys, how's it going?

 

But Capricorn. Capricorn, have you seen this? I just saw this like right now and was all "oh, beautiful sketche--HEYWAITAMINUTE".  _  Look:

 

Spoiler

 

Source.

 

Also bespectacled Solas is in there but mostly lookit our beautiful Talas everyone.

 

MTC I totally didn't think this would actually be a thing. What a nice little surprise to see upon returning to the online world of Solas-and-semi-related-art-stuffs.Thanks a tonne. :3

[Janic99]

huge video work coming up! I am going to make a Solas video of this song because the lyrics fit him perfectly:

 

I am really going to work a lot on this!

 

I got the idea of this video I saw:

[Gwyvian]

Yeah, it's normal for girls to be able to relate to male protagonists and characters, because that's what they're mostly exposed to, while boys growing up are generally handed flat female characters put in for the sake of being there and female so people can't call chauvinism. That, or the female characters are streamlined into bland 'role model' types, because no one can handle females acting like they're people.   (Batman exists. There's no need to make any other role models for anyone of any gender. We've been there, done that.)

Boys and girls who grew up with only boys as actual characters making shows and books and games with only boys as actual characters, basically.

I think KotOR was the first time I played a female character. (Also the first one to give the option.) Combined with Hermione Granger,  I don't have any problem getting into the skin of a female character. Mind, a lot of people who know me would only question if I could connect with a male protagonist. 

I also like hearing the different perspectives. 

 

Tomb Raider! 

 

Well, I really, really appreciate both having a choice nowadays and having strong female characters and one of the reasons I absolutely love Bioware is because they do a lot to make the gender question a level playing field; but in general I'm actually much more offended that anyone would assume that a woman can't be a gamer or that games in general "aren't made for women" or that certain games are "girl games" or "boy games." That kind of thinking I find truly offensive.

 

I love Witcher with Geralt as the protagonist, it's his story. I love the AC protagonists. And I adore games where you create your own protagonist; in those types of games (Bioware!  ) I want to have a choice, but in games with pre-determined protagonists, it's a different matter. I actually felt weird at first playing Liberation because of this, for me the AC formula was "male assassin and his experiences in gorgeous historical settings" (and being obsessed with the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, well...   I wasn't about to get bogged down by the fact that they're all male; besides, I have a crush on Altair  ). I was kind of rolling my eyes at the complaints that there aren't female assassins as protagonists even though in a general sense (theoretical outrage again), I support the notion of equality in such things. I liked Liberation, though, I think they pulled it off, so it stopped being weird and I'm really curious about more ventures in this direction.

 

I mean to say that I believe that every story has its own thing, for AC having a male protagonist was just part of AC's thing and that was that; I might have felt differently if I thought Ubisoft was deliberately snubbing women and making sure to stamp out any chance of women being represented as strong and capable assassins, but I never got that sense. (Plus... it's a historical piece. It is perfectly legitimate to portray the Order as having mostly male members, if not all male, considering the various periods introduced, and true to that notion it evolves as the timeline advances. The original, historical Order of Assassins - hashinshin - were most likely exclusively male considering the presumed religious context, so it would have been very hard to keep credibility and suspension of disbelief had AC revolved around a female protagonist.)

 

Having said that, I truly respect Bioware for making ME with both gender versions; it's a pre-determined protagonist, yet they let you go both ways and that is truly a great thing. I ended up playing with both and I love them both, but the fact that I could choose makes them way more than good in my books: they are beyond awesome.

 

OK, back to playing Geralt now.   I still have hardly advanced the main quest there's just so much to see! *dazzle-eyes*

[CapricornSun]

MTC WHERE ARE YOU YOU BEAUTIFUL CREATURE.

 

Uh, I mean. Hi guys, how's it going?

 

But Capricorn. Capricorn, have you seen this? I just saw this like right now and was all "oh, beautiful sketche--HEYWAITAMINUTE".  _  Look:

 

Spoiler

 

Source.

 

Also bespectacled Solas is in there but mostly lookit our beautiful Talas everyone.

 

MTC I totally didn't think this would actually be a thing. What a nice little surprise to see upon returning to the online world of Solas-and-semi-related-art-stuffs.Thanks a tonne. :3

 

RogueBait, you have no idea how much I've missed seeing you around here.

 

Aaaah! MTC is wonderful! Just look at the Talas!

 

And yes, I believe lots of people are playing WItcher 3. I should really play the series. I gave up on Witcher 1 because I couldn't get into it but I was told to just start with Witcher 2. Maybe I'll do that.

[CapricornSun]

Art.

 

Message Sent!Solas by Aicosu.

Spoiler

http://aicosu.tumblr...tes-i-promise-a

 

 

A preview of a Solavellan comic that osatokun is did on her stream. 

Spoiler

http://osatokun.tumb...un-okay-here-we

 

[Lunapur]

huge video work coming up! I am going to make a Solas video of this song because the lyrics fit him perfectly:

 

I am really going to work a lot on this!

 

I got the idea of this video I saw:

Ah i cant wait for it I have different feels when i listen to this song sort of empower me?I can see "The" Solas into it then the Solas then left my Lavellan :)Good find :)It still has a bittersweet tone to it :)Love it

[CapricornSun]

huge video work coming up! I am going to make a Solas video of this song because the lyrics fit him perfectly:

 

I am really going to work a lot on this!

 

I got the idea of this video I saw:

<snip>

 

Like Lunapur, I can't wait for this. (I actually have this song on my Solavellan/Solas playlist. xD) 

 

Another Fall Out Boy song that always makes me think of Solas  and maybe the ancient elves in general is "Immortals". (I guess this could sort of be Solavellan as well?)

 

 

Lyrics:

Spoiler

"Immortals"

 

They say we are what we are

But we don't have to be.

I'm bad behavior but I do it in the best way.

I'll be the watcher (watcher) of the eternal flame.

I'll be the guard dog of all your fever dreams.

 

Oooooooh

I am the sand in the bottom half of the hourglass (glass, glass)

Oooooooh,

I try to picture me without you but I can't

 

'Cause we could be immortals, immortals

Just not for long, for long.

And live with me forever now,

You pull the blackout curtains down

Just not for long, for long.

 

We could be immooooooo- immortals,

Immooooooo- immortals,

Immooooooo- immortals,

Immooooooo- immortals.

 

Sometimes the only pay-off for having any faith

Is when it's tested again and again everyday.

I'm still comparing your past to my future.

It might be your wound but they're my sutures.

 

Oooooooh

I am the sand in the bottom half of the hourglass (glass, glass)

Oooooooh,

I try to picture me without you but I can't

 

'Cause we could be immortals, immortals

Just not for long, for long.

And live with me forever now,

You pull the blackout curtains down

Just not for long, for long.

 

We could be immooooooo- immortals,

Immooooooo- immortals,

 

Immortals,

And live with me forever now,

Pull the blackout curtains down,

 

We could be immortals, immortals

Just not for long, for long.

We could be immooooooo- immortals,

Immooooooo- immortals,

Immooooooo- immortals,

Immooooooo- immortals,

(Immortals)

 

 

EDIT: Top Solas!

 

SOURCE

 

[Janic99]

Ah i cant wait for it I have different feels when i listen to this song sort of empower me?I can see "The" Solas into it then the Solas then left my Lavellan :)Good find :)It still has a bittersweet tone to it :)Love it

Great!!! I have been working on it for 5hours 30 minutes about right now.. and I have done like 25% (because I still need to do the rest of the song and all the editing + all the text on it x_X)  

But I decided to upload a preview soon as fast as it has saved the file on youtube of how it looks like right now. I am going to link it here when it's done x3 

Also this is for Capricornsun. I had problems multiquoting for some reason.  

-Stupid machine (computer) *Says with Javik's voice* 

[Janic99]

Okay so here is the PREVIEW

 

note: It is only about 25-30% of what I am going to do so I MIGHT STILL CHANGE things or FIX things. Also I tried a couple of new things so if some stuff do not look perfect it's cause I am practising with harder video editing. Hopefully you'll still like it. I am also going to put texts on the video later  

 

[CapricornSun]

Okay so here is the PREVIEW

 

note: It is only about 25-30% of what I am going to do so I MIGHT STILL CHANGE things or FIX things. Also I tried a couple of new things so if some stuff do not look perfect it's cause I am practising with harder video editing. Hopefully you'll still like it. I am also going to put texts on the video later

 

 

Ooh! That preview was awesome! Can't wait for the final version, Janesutin. (Also, that shot of the butt grab.  )

[NightSymphony]

*yaaawn* So not awake yet....have some art

 

Sketchdump (NSFW Dorian's naked booty)

Source - http://katieisalady....-2015-534994753

Direct - http://pre09.deviant...ady-d8uisld.jpg

 

Random Characters

http://smmorela.devi...ut-of-534986220

 

Modern Solas and Bull

http://smmorela.devi...rible-534985881

 

Solas and Lavellan

http://themintmagici...-WIP2-534969528

 

In Hushed Whispers Part 11

http://krissymadcat....rt-11-534957918

 

Hold on Tightly

http://shungie.devia...ghtly-535043406

[CapricornSun]

So, someone on DeviantArt commented on my Felassan artwork with a lengthy theory on who killed Mythal. xD It's quite fascinating and probably someone here might be interested in reading through it as well (and maybe give your opinions on it since I'm bad at theorycrafting. )

 

Original comment link: http://comments.devi...9372/3839788105

 

Spoiler

 

 

I have a theory about who killed Mythal and why.

I guess that the one who killed Mythal must have been close to do the deed, since I doubt it was easy to kill her, and it would have been someone she would not suspect. And when I read the song about Falon`Din at the temple which said:

 

The people swore their lives to Falon`Din

Who mastered the dark that lies.

Whose shadows hunger

Whose faithful sing

Whose wings of death surround him

Thick as night.

 

Lethanavir, master-scryer, be our guide, 

Through shapeless worlds and airless skies.

 

It mentions him having wings that is thick as night(which is to me another proof that he was a dragon like most of the creators, and the part about shapeless worlds and airless skies is obviously talking about the Beyond.

Then I thought that both the elvhen religion and chant of light say people pass through the beyond/fade when they die, but not a single time has a person who died been ever seen in the fade, which I do find strange since someone must have come across one if all who that can dream dies and pass through.

but there is a single place in the fade where no one except the ones who are either dead or has not said anything about, the Black City, I guess the Black City is the seat of power for Falon`Din and it is a place where only the dead can be.

Then I remembered that Solas mention that Falon`Din started a war once to gather more followers to him, and he did not surrender til he was beaten bloody at his temple bu his fellow creators.

I also remember the story about how close he and his brother Dirthamen is.

Then there is the Order Of Fiery Promise of the Seekers that believe the world must die in order to be reborn again, and a codex entry about them mentions that they have always existed  among the seekers and many times has the order been purged of them, but for some reason they rise up again among the Seekers out of nowhere and no one knows why or how.

And when Flemeth absorbed Kerans Old God soul, it looked very similar to how she sent Mythals own soul through the Eluvian, Flemeth also said that as long as the song is playing, we dance(which I think is the song the of the Old gods she is talking about).

So this is my Theory:

 

Eventually Falon`Din started to believe the world needed to die to be rebron again and even made the Humans worship him and creators in different name so that he could use them later on, but Mythal and the others was against it, but Dirthamen could not fight his ow brother again like last time and he had been turned to his brothers side without the other creators knowing.

So when the creators and their followers had gathered to meet Falon`Din and his followers on the battlefield, but then Dirthamen stabbed Mythal in the back by using either somekind of magic weapon or power, and amidst the confusion, their followers started to fight against each other, and the creators started to fight among each others for both more power and because they did not know who to trust anymore.

And when that happened, Falon`Din used some dark power to put the other creators into a deep death-like sleep(and if he was a bigger ass and make more sense as to why Dirthamen would side with his brother even after knowing he wanted to destroy the world, he put Dirthamen into sleep aswell) and Buried them deep underground.

the thing that happened after was of course that the Elvhenan Empire fell, and with it gone, one of Falon`Dins biggest obstacles was gone.

And to make sure they would not rebuild their empire or regain their full power, he told his human followers to take the elvhen as slaves and destroy their knowledge and history.

After that, he made sure that the Tevinter Empire took over all of Thedas, adding great destruction and death in it´s rule(summoning as many demons as possible and blood sacrifices for power so that it would add to the destruction of the world), but he did also try to find Fen`Harel who had escaped him.

But the Humans did not kill or destroy as much as he had hoped for, they did show more restraint to complete destruction then he had thought, so he made new plan which would guaranty total destruction.

He told some priests in their dream to try to walk into the fade and become gods, they did do so, and walked into the Black City, but since it was a place for the dead only, it changed them. It infected them with a sickness of death, which we all know as the Taint.

With it, the world was truly plunged into destruction and death and Falon`Dins goal was at hand, but it was stopped when the Grey Wardens came(and I suspect Fen`Harel was the one who told them about the Joining, since it would make sense).

When the Blight failed, Falon`Din knew that it was Fen`Harel who had helped them defeat it, and so he put a curse on the sleeping creators that make the Darkspawn hear a song from them so that there will be another Blight, while he goes searching for Fen`Harel again.

But then the Tevinter Empire fell, by a woman who seemed to have the powers and Knowledge of Mythal, and that scared Falon`Din, that Mythal soul was still here, and he made sure that this woman with her soul did die, but the Soul traveled from host to host, until it came to Flemeth.

Now knowing that Mythal soul was still out there, Falon`Din knew he could not keep doing what head been for the last millennium, so he went into hiding, manipulating people to do what he wanted, and making sure that no Dragon would join Mythal, by making Humans wanting to hunt them to extinction, even creating a secret order with power, that shared his views and goals(The Promise). And of course stopping any chance for the Elvhen to rebuild again, even making the last of the priests he manipulated think he could become a God.

But so far his plans have all failed, and soon he has no choice but to go to open confrontation with Mythal.

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Although I'm guessing most of the theorycrafters are probably doing Witcher 3 stuff at the moment.