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[ChuChu]

It's late, and a very unrespectable hour. You know what that means! Another art thing!

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[EggplantRed]

So I wrote a little Solas thing. There isn't any conversation in the short fic but I'm hoping I did the essence of Solas some justice even though it's just a teeny, tiny snippet of him.

 

Canvas

[CapricornSun]

Guys! Chapter 16 of Message Sent is now up!

http://archiveofouro...hapters/9067876

[CapricornSun]

It's late, and a very unrespectable hour. You know what that means! Another art thing!

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Uuuuh! I know I keep saying this, but I really, really love this! More... MORE! *drools*

[Nehn]

That comic makes me wonder if you're a dreamer in the Fade and see another dreamer ...how could you know if they were real or just a spirit's portrayal? 

[Illyria]

I have a similar headcanon with my Lavellan. I think of her as being in her mid to late thirties with some knowledge of an intimate relationship. Part of this for me is a reaction to how the games themselves have aged the characters up. Most of your companions seem to be in their thirties or a bit older, the only two who strike me as younger are Sera and Cole. Cullen, I think is about 20ish Origins, so with it being ten years later, he's at least thirty. Leliana and Cassandra are possibly older, but maybe only in the thirty-five or so range.

 

Not that you can't role a character that is younger, but roling my Lavellan as older works for me, especially after the whole passage of time thing that Bioware did in DA:2, which arguably would have worked better if there had been some "aging" applied to the character models during time jumps. Also, and this is totally my own opinion, I have a hard time believing in my Inquisitor as an agent in her own right if she's younger. I just think that with all the references to The Game and all, that it would be hard not to see a younger Inquisitor as a Chantry puppet.

 

And I totally agree with the implied intimacy that occurs. I love the nuance that the writing and character modeling  give so much nuance to this particular relationship that it can be interpreted is so many different ways.

 

*proudly has a Lavellan in her early 20s*

 

My Adaar is also fairly young and my Trevelyan is actually 20.

[Illyria]

Many people also know him from some other roles, especially as Ianto from Torchwood.  I only truly gave Torchwood a shot around January (though I had been wanting to watch for a while and just never got past the first episode for a long, long time), which meant that I had many different feelings, simultaneously, over different characters played by the same actor.

 

Episode 4 is when Torchwood truly hooked me, and he really, really shines in it. In fact, that's where Ianto became my favorite character. A ton of feels right there, early in the first season.

 

Three actors featured in Torchwood have made it over to DA so far - Eve Myles was Merrill, and Gareth David-Lloyd and Indira Varma are in DAI as Solas and Vivienne.

 

But even after giving me feels in Torchwood, I've just marveled even more at just how good he is as a voice actor.

 

 

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Ugh, damn you, Children of Earth. Ianto feels forever.

 

*opens mouth to start ranting about CoE again*

 

*realises it will just make me exhausted and angry*

 

*decides to leave well alone*

[CapricornSun]

*proudly has a Lavellan in her early 20s*

 

My Adaar is also fairly young and my Trevelyan is actually 20.

 

Can I join you in the being proud of having a Lavellan in her early 20s?

[S.W.]

Regarding the age of your Lavellan (mine is late 20s/early 30s for the record) and romantic experience, do you wonder if the rules are different for mages?

 

Whilst we've only seen a small handful of dalish clans, none of the keepers or their firsts were romantically attached to anyone from my memory. Given that, in general, in southern Thedas mages aren't allowed to marry or have childre - for fear of producing too many mages - and that we've learnt that in dalish clans, if there are too many young mages, they'll be similarly given away/left to fend for themselves, do you reckon there is a similar restriction on firsts/keepers with regards to romantic experience? Given that the dalish try, at least, to make romantic and sexual relationships a relatively serious affair (i.e. probably no casual sex), is it possible that a dalish mage may have just never been involved with that at all?

 

I have a very hard time imagining my Lavellan, who has been her keeper's first since her teens, and in that time has become a skilled and shrewd negoiater and peacekeeper amongst her clan and amongst the humans they interact with, being completely sexually inexperienced and being hesitant to approach a sexual realtionship. i might just pass her off as an unorthodox example, but still. Thoughts on this?

[DustyTulip]

Hey guys I have been lurking on this wonderful thread for awhile, but couldn't resist anymore, so hello! 

 

I have a question / curious. Considering Solas / Mythal situation and what part this may or may not play in future (possible) DLC, I was wondering did you have your Inquisitor drink from the Well or Morrigan? And why? I am doing my cannon 100+ nightmare playthrough and just about to go to complete this story mission at the temple, but as I can't decide which way to go I keep postponing it. On the bright side, because of my indecisiveness I have 100% the Hinterlands   Thanks!

[NightSymphony]

My Atisha Lavellan is around 25 or so. Solas is her first real love. I imagine  that since she is a mage and the Keeper's first, that she hasn't had a sexual relationship before. It was frowned upon since her magic was so strong, and feared that her magic would pass to her children and there were already a few other children in the clan that had magic. There was a boy she liked, but he didn't like her. Most of the clan was a little afraid of her. She had magic ever since she was around 4 or 5 and it was powerful even then. Parents told their children not to play with her. Because of this..Atisha is very shy, specially around men. It was really easy to talk to Solas from the very beginning though.

[CapricornSun]

Regarding the age of your Lavellan (mine is late 20s/early 30s for the record) and romantic experience, do you wonder if the rules are different for mages?

 

Whilst we've only seen a small handful of dalish clans, none of the keepers or their firsts were romantically attached to anyone from my memory. Given that, in general, in southern Thedas mages aren't allowed to marry or have childre - for fear of producing too many mages - and that we've learnt that in dalish clans, if there are too many young mages, they'll be similarly given away/left to fend for themselves, do you reckon there is a similar restriction on firsts/keepers with regards to romantic experience? Given that the dalish try, at least, to make romantic and sexual relationships a relatively serious affair (i.e. probably no casual sex), is it possible that a dalish mage may have just never been involved with that at all?

 

I have a very hard time imagining my Lavellan, who has been her keeper's first since her teens, and in that time has become a skilled and shrewd negoiater and peacekeeper amongst her clan and amongst the humans they interact with, being completely sexually inexperienced and being hesitant to approach a sexual realtionship. i might just pass her off as an unorthodox example, but still. Thoughts on this?

 

I was just reading some entries on the Dalish elves from the Dragon Age Wikia last night and Keeper Marethari from the Dalish origin used to be married to the Keeper's Second in her youth, when she was still a First. (Apparently, that's info from WOT2.)

 

Not only that, the Dalish Warden's father used to be the Sabrae Clans' former Keeper and according to Ashalle, he and the Dalish Warden's mother (who was from another clan) had some kind of forbidden romance of sorts. (I wish they mentioned why it was forbidden but I guess that's what headcanon is for.)

[NightSymphony]

Art time

 

Beautiful Lavellan by Widdershins

http://widdershins-w...cence-536076687

 

Solas

http://kradmousey.de...Solas-536078252

 

Fen'heral

http://outlaw-hoshi....harel-536044824

[Niamaduir]

Wow, totally didn't think the age thing would go anywhere. Love that you all have different headcanons  about your Quizzy's, it's part of what I think makes the game so great. Honestly reminds me of sitting down at a table with a really good DM and running through an amazing AD&D story. Maybe that's why I love this more than Skyrim? So many of the party characters we get remind me of the things that some of my friends would roll in those BFK all night caffeine and sugar sustained table-top games.

 

On the Dalish mage thing, my personal though is that magic is rare among elves, hence the need to shift mages around clans. I know that there is the reality of Minaeve's personal history, but I wonder, since this seems to be the running theme of the game, if we are not getting the whole story when it comes to how the Dalish view magic. The reason why I have this though is the amount of elvhen mages we actually see in the games. Compared to humans, they seem to be a small minority. I suppose this could also be due to the elvhen population being much smaller in comparsion to the human one. We don't really get much of a read on that via the games. However, I am inclined to think of elvhen mages as rare because I think it works the in game notion that the elvhen we encounter in game are a shadow of there former selves.

[Niamaduir]

It's late, and a very unrespectable hour. You know what that means! Another art thing!

Previous pages are here too xD
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Are you posting this anywhere else? It's wonderful and I would love to bookmark it.

[S.W.]

Hey guys I have been lurking on this wonderful thread for awhile, but couldn't resist anymore, so hello! 

 

I have a question / curious. Considering Solas / Mythal situation and what part this may or may not play in future (possible) DLC, I was wondering did you have your Inquisitor drink from the Well or Morrigan? And why? I am doing my cannon 100+ nightmare playthrough and just about to go to complete this story mission at the temple, but as I can't decide which way to go I keep postponing it. On the bright side, because of my indecisiveness I have 100% the Hinterlands   Thanks!

 

Depends - as usual - on your character, really, but there are a lot of good reasons for and against, especially for a Lavellan.

 

For the Inquisitor drinking:

- As your Inquisitor rightly argues, this is their heritage. Out of all the origins, yours is probably most deserving of this.

- If your Inquisitor has any long-term goals about improving the lives of the elves in Thedas, it makes possibly more sense to drink to give that knowledge to the elves. Morrigan likely has different intentions.

- Morrigan's intentions are unknown, and dependent on how trusting your Inquisitor is, you might simply not want to offer her that kind of power. Morrigan doesn't exactly scream 'trust me'.

- Morrigan was quite spectacularly wrong about the object Corypheus seeks (the well, not the eluvian), and suddenly off the bat she really wants/needs the well's power? Does Morrigan *actually* know what she's doing? I think the Inquisitor has good reasons to trust Morrigan's claim to superior knowledge on the subject.

 

For Morrigan Drinking:

- Morrigan has at least some idea of what she's doing. Your Inquisitor - as DA:I has gone to great pains to show - knows nothing about the ancient elves and their secrets. It may hurt a dalish inquisitor's pride to admit this, but you're not the most knowledgeable in the room. Particularly true if you're not a mage and therefore haven't studied as much history/lore.

- If you have Arcane Knowledge unlocked, you'll be able to tell that it's not just knowledge, but will - servitutde - that is contained in that pool. Seriously, do you really want that? On a personal level, as Cole argues, you seriously don't want all those voices in your head. On a political level, if your dalish has some long-term aim about liberating the elves, being tied to the will of a god may hinder your plans severely in the long run.

- Mortality. It'd also be a big political burden to carry that much knowledge, knoing when you die, so does it. You'd have to find some way to either restore the temple or preserve the knowledge more permanenly. (This may also be an argument for your quizzy drinking, depending on your quizzy's perspective. But if, after everything, you intend on returning to your clan as normal, this might not be the best course of action).

- "Solas approves"

- Metagaming a tad here, but we know that eventually Solas will take over Mythal's soul/knowledge etc. Being in servitude to your lover is a really weird power imbalance that may screw up your relationship long term, especially if you may disagree or disapprove of an action that he may take. if you're hoping for some happy ending, it may be wise to avoid drinking from that well. Morrigan is in the better relationshipto being a more useful agent to Fen'Harel than your Inquisitor, as Solas may also try and spare you from doing something diificult (e.g. killing someone). 

[Illyria]

Wow, totally didn't think the age thing would go anywhere. Love that you all have different headcanons  about your Quizzy's, it's part of what I think makes the game so great. Honestly reminds me of sitting down at a table with a really good DM and running through an amazing AD&D story. Maybe that's why I love this more than Skyrim? So many of the party characters we get remind me of the things that some of my friends would roll in those BFK all night caffeine and sugar sustained table-top games.

 

On the Dalish mage thing, my personal though is that magic is rare among elves, hence the need to shift mages around clans. I know that there is the reality of Minaeve's personal history, but I wonder, since this seems to be the running theme of the game, if we are not getting the whole story when it comes to how the Dalish view magic. The reason why I have this though is the amount of elvhen mages we actually see in the games. Compared to humans, they seem to be a small minority. I suppose this could also be due to the elvhen population being much smaller in comparsion to the human one. We don't really get much of a read on that via the games. However, I am inclined to think of elvhen mages as rare because I think it works the in game notion that the elvhen we encounter in game are a shadow of there former selves.

 

It's mentioned in the lore that magic is still common in elves, just not at the levels it was during the time of Arlathan.  As for why we see more human mages - I guess it's the human bias of Bioware?

 

Now Faerunner is gone I feel I need to step up my pro-elven game.

[Illyria]

Hey guys I have been lurking on this wonderful thread for awhile, but couldn't resist anymore, so hello! 

 

I have a question / curious. Considering Solas / Mythal situation and what part this may or may not play in future (possible) DLC, I was wondering did you have your Inquisitor drink from the Well or Morrigan? And why? I am doing my cannon 100+ nightmare playthrough and just about to go to complete this story mission at the temple, but as I can't decide which way to go I keep postponing it. On the bright side, because of my indecisiveness I have 100% the Hinterlands   Thanks!

 

My Lavellan drank from the well.  She's a mage, the First of Clan Lavellan and a Dalish elf.  If a member of the Inquisition has to drink from it then it should be her, Solas or Sera.  And since Sera is just 'pffffft elves' and Solas refuses then that leaves Inky (and she wanted to drink from the Well anyway).  It's her heritage and as much as she likes Morrigan she doesn't entirely trust her.

 

If Celene's arcane advisor had been Merrill I may have let her drink it, though.

[Cee]

It's late, and a very unrespectable hour. You know what that means! Another art thing!

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I really love your style. This is great so far. Also...feelings.
 

[Cee]

Guys! Chapter 16 of Message Sent is now up!

http://archiveofouro...hapters/9067876

 

It's up...brings us kind of almost somewhere....and then.....

 

 

the waiting begins again.

 

 

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This chapter had some quite amusing little references thrown in.

 

And yes, say indomitable again.

 

 

 

[S.W.]

Wow, totally didn't think the age thing would go anywhere. Love that you all have different headcanons  about your Quizzy's, it's part of what I think makes the game so great. Honestly reminds me of sitting down at a table with a really good DM and running through an amazing AD&D story. Maybe that's why I love this more than Skyrim? So many of the party characters we get remind me of the things that some of my friends would roll in those BFK all night caffeine and sugar sustained table-top games.

 

On the Dalish mage thing, my personal though is that magic is rare among elves, hence the need to shift mages around clans. I know that there is the reality of Minaeve's personal history, but I wonder, since this seems to be the running theme of the game, if we are not getting the whole story when it comes to how the Dalish view magic. The reason why I have this though is the amount of elvhen mages we actually see in the games. Compared to humans, they seem to be a small minority. I suppose this could also be due to the elvhen population being much smaller in comparsion to the human one. We don't really get much of a read on that via the games. However, I am inclined to think of elvhen mages as rare because I think it works the in game notion that the elvhen we encounter in game are a shadow of there former selves.

 

This is one of my favourite things about DA - you can headcanon really interesting stories quite easily, and RP really effectively. My Lavellan's relationship with her dalishness changes dramatically throughout the story, from seeing herself as completely committed to dealing with the mundane day-to-day running of a clan and preparing to take over from her keeper soon, to feeling she can no longer be part of that life at all in any way. I wish there was a post-epilogue conversation where we can return to our origin, or at least more dialogue options which reflect my Lavellan's changing feeelings.

 

On magic I'd probably disagree and say that representation in circles is likely the result of there being less elves than humans in general. I actually think given the small number of elves in human cities, that elves are possibly are more prominent in circles than elsewhere. Elves still have a lot of magic in their blood, probably moreso than humans. I reckon that Templars may also be harsher on elven apostates in alienages and elven circle mages who escape - rather than dragging them to the circle, killing them more often, giving them less room to negoiate - because they're an entirely human, often devotedly Andrastian force who probably harbour a fair amount of prejudice, so if anything they're underrepresnted for a reason.

 

On dalish magic in general - i agree, I'd like to know more. it's easy to assume because they practice different and more interesting type of magic, outside of circles, and given elven magic heritage, they'd have a more enlightened view of things. But I think Merrill's arc in DA2 led to me questioning that assumption - despite Merrill defeating the demon that had taken over the keeper, as clans *ought* to do in that situation, they left no room for Merrill to explain herself, and assumed she was responsible. Unlesss your Hawke takes responsibility, they simply won't let Merrill justify herself, even if she is ultimately wrong: they're so scared of her, it's bizarre. We also know that dalish mages tend to be more isolated, studying more history and magic than the others who learn to hunt. I imagine most dalish non-mages are really wary and cautious around it, because of this isolation, and also because of Thedas's approach to magic as a whole is a terrified one, where magic is to be feared, likely has affected their point of view. this might just be Merrill's clan's approach though - I'd really like to learn more on this.

[DustyTulip]

Depends - as usual - on your character, really, but there are a lot of good reasons for and against, especially for a Lavellan.

 

For the Inquisitor drinking:

- As your Inquisitor rightly argues, this is their heritage. Out of all the origins, yours is probably most deserving of this.

- If your Inquisitor has any long-term goals about improving the lives of the elves in Thedas, it makes possibly more sense to drink to give that knowledge to the elves. Morrigan likely has different intentions.

- Morrigan's intentions are unknown, and dependent on how trusting your Inquisitor is, you might simply not want to offer her that kind of power. Morrigan doesn't exactly scream 'trust me'.

- Morrigan was quite spectacularly wrong about the object Corypheus seeks (the well, not the eluvian), and suddenly off the bat she really wants/needs the well's power? Does Morrigan *actually* know what she's doing? I think the Inquisitor has good reasons to trust Morrigan's claim to superior knowledge on the subject.

 

For Morrigan Drinking:

- Morrigan has at least some idea of what she's doing. Your Inquisitor - as DA:I has gone to great pains to show - knows nothing about the ancient elves and their secrets. It may hurt a dalish inquisitor's pride to admit this, but you're not the most knowledgeable in the room. Particularly true if you're not a mage and therefore haven't studied as much history/lore.

- If you have Arcane Knowledge unlocked, you'll be able to tell that it's not just knowledge, but will - servitutde - that is contained in that pool. Seriously, do you really want that? On a personal level, as Cole argues, you seriously don't want all those voices in your head. On a political level, if your dalish has some long-term aim about liberating the elves, being tied to the will of a god may hinder your plans severely in the long run.

- Mortality. It'd also be a big political burden to carry that much knowledge, knoing when you die, so does it. You'd have to find some way to either restore the temple or preserve the knowledge more permanenly. (This may also be an argument for your quizzy drinking, depending on your quizzy's perspective. But if, after everything, you intend on returning to your clan as normal, this might not be the best course of action).

- "Solas approves"

- Metagaming a tad here, but we know that eventually Solas will take over Mythal's soul/knowledge etc. Being in servitude to your lover is a really weird power imbalance that may screw up your relationship long term, especially if you may disagree or disapprove of an action that he may take. if you're hoping for some happy ending, it may be wise to avoid drinking from that well. Morrigan is in the better relationshipto being a more useful agent to Fen'Harel than your Inquisitor, as Solas may also try and spare you from doing something diificult (e.g. killing someone). 

 

Thanks!   A lot of my back and forth is because of that *Solas disapproves* and him screaming at me afterwards... but then Morrigan is very slippery about her intentions and I never trusted her (even on my fast story play through where Morrigan drank from the well).

 

Also considering how strongly Solas believes the freedom of thought, I find it hard to imagine that he could actually *control* the person who drank from the Well. Wouldn't that go against everything that he believes in? Although he also killed his 'old friend' to get more power to have a chance to save his 'People', so hmmmmmm....

[Illyria]

Thanks!   A lot of my back and forth is because of that *Solas disapproves* and him screaming at me afterwards... but then Morrigan is very slippery about her intentions and I never trusted her (even on my fast story play through where Morrigan drank from the well).

 

Also considering how strongly Solas believes the freedom of thought, I find it hard to imagine that he could actually *control* the person who drank from the Well. Wouldn't that go against everything that he believes in? Although he also killed his 'old friend' to get more power to have a chance to save his 'People', so hmmmmmm....

 

I always refuse to let the feelings of my LI dictate how I play the game.  If that was the case, I'd be the most pro-Templer mage!Hawke ever and wouldn't have done half the stuff I did in DAI.

[Illyria]

Solas-senpai desu ne!

 

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http://dreameatingga...rel-kawaii-just

[CapricornSun]

Solas-senpai desu ne!

 

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http://dreameatingga...rel-kawaii-just

 

 

Oh my gosh...