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[DustyTulip]

My Lavellan drank from the well.  She's a mage, the First of Clan Lavellan and a Dalish elf.  If a member of the Inquisition has to drink from it then it should be her, Solas or Sera.  And since Sera is just 'pffffft elves' and Solas refuses then that leaves Inky (and she wanted to drink from the Well anyway).  It's her heritage and as much as she likes Morrigan she doesn't entirely trust her.

 

If Celene's arcane advisor had been Merrill I may have let her drink it, though.

 

Thanks!

 

Yeah, that's pretty much how I am playing my Inky at the moment. She was always against 'The Herald of Andraste' thing as she believes in the Elven Gods and always tries to make pro-elf decisions as much as possible (although I caved in and reconciled Celene with Briala, instead of making Briala rule via Gaspard... but I wanted that court jester too much  ). However, she also refers a lot to Solas for his opinion on elf-related things, and usually follows his advice. So power to elves or very angry Solas... 

[DustyTulip]

I always refuse to let the feelings of my LI dictate how I play the game.  If that was the case, I'd be the most pro-Templer mage!Hawke ever and wouldn't have done half the stuff I did in DAI.

Fair point! The screaming followed by the braking up is hard though... I need to 'toughen' myself then 

[Illyria]

Thanks!

 

Yeah, that's pretty much how I am playing my Inky at the moment. She was always against 'The Herald of Andraste' thing as she believes in the Elven Gods and always tries to make pro-elf decisions as much as possible (although I caved in and reconciled Celene with Briala, instead of making Briala rule via Gaspard... but I wanted that court jester too much  ). However, she also refers a lot to Solas for his opinion on elf-related things, and usually follows his advice. So power to elves or very angry Solas... 

 

Celen/Bria is very pro-elf!

 

Yes, Celene did some terrible things to elves and to Bria, but the outcome is better for the elves.  It has Celene openly acknowledging her elven girlfriend and making her a noble - the first elven noble in Halamshiral in centuaries.

 

Mine never refered to Solas on elf related matters.  She has her own knowledge of the world and of being an elf in Thedas.

[Illyria]

Fair point! The screaming followed by the braking up is hard though... I need to 'toughen' myself then 

 

I spent an entire game in a friendly pro-mage romance with Fenris as a mage.  I can take Solas' little tantrums after that.

[Illyria]

 

Oh my gosh... 

 

 

The story behind it it pretty good, too.

[Abelas Forever!]

Hey guys I have been lurking on this wonderful thread for awhile, but couldn't resist anymore, so hello! 

 

I have a question / curious. Considering Solas / Mythal situation and what part this may or may not play in future (possible) DLC, I was wondering did you have your Inquisitor drink from the Well or Morrigan? And why? I am doing my cannon 100+ nightmare playthrough and just about to go to complete this story mission at the temple, but as I can't decide which way to go I keep postponing it. On the bright side, because of my indecisiveness I have 100% the Hinterlands   Thanks!

Hello!

 

Both of my Lavellans drank from the well because it was their heritage and they didn't trust Morrigan. My other inquisitors didn't drank from the well because they didn't like the idea of being bound to some elven goddess if she exists and because Morrigan wanted to drink from the well so badly they decided that it was for the best.

 

I'm not sure is it a good idea to drink from the well but everytime I think about it I come to a conclusion that it's best for my Lavellans to do that. However I have a save before that decision if it turns out to be a bad decision. I mean if you can't get Solas back if you drank from it for example then I can load that save and make a different decision. Although I doubt that drinking from the well has so huge consequences what comes to getting Solas back.

[S.W.]

Thanks!

 

Yeah, that's pretty much how I am playing my Inky at the moment. She was always against 'The Herald of Andraste' thing as she believes in the Elven Gods and always tries to make pro-elf decisions as much as possible (although I caved in and reconciled Celene with Briala, instead of making Briala rule via Gaspard... but I wanted that court jester too much  ). However, she also refers a lot to Solas for his opinion on elf-related things, and usually follows his advice. So power to elves or very angry Solas... 

 

Ah yeah, I had exactly the same problem with Celene/Gaspard/Briala - my quizzy's SAVE THE ELVES instincts screamed at her to let Celene die, but i think my quizzy discovered that, despite her expectations - that she'd find the ball absolutely vile and want to stick a few arrows in them with sera from a balcony - she actually was completely entraced by the Game, and revelled in publically exposing and shaming Florianne in front of the entire court. I wish there was still some way to kick Celene out of the pciture though, as I doubt elves are going to get their freedoms whilst a system of nobility is still in place. (Also, whilst I haven't read The masked empire, i'm led to believe Celene/Briala had a really unhealthy relationship, and I feel uneasy restoring that).

 

i would also agree, and ignore Solas and go for what your gut tells you. Unless your Inquisitor is partciualrly and deliberately defferent to him, there's nothing wrong with having an argument with your LI, especially over principles that should supercede it. I think Solas would respect the fact that your Inquisitor had principled reasons behind drinking.

 

On the subject, what are Solas's objections? I don't actually know myself, because I let Morrigan drink.

[Caddius]

Ever since Warder pointed it out I keep noticing it though. Psychology at work.

 

Btw, I do know what I think of Loghain, Meredith, and Anders. I actually thought, individual people for themselves knew, only that there's no Geth consensus among all fans. Which I think you even find regarding the flattest and most one-dimensional characters ever in games, so this isn't limited to BioWare.

Wait, there is no Geth consensus among fans? 

Then what the hell did I get the glitter-cyber-implants for? 

[Uirebhiril]

Drinking from the well means you get to tame a dragon. Future DLC will have you on dragon-back, fighting a furious midair battle with Solas, who is on a griffon. It will be a clash of power, will, and wings, the most epic tale of the Age.

 

...what?

[Niamaduir]

It's mentioned in the lore that magic is still common in elves, just not at the levels it was during the time of Arlathan.  As for why we see more human mages - I guess it's the human bias of Bioware?

 

Now Faerunner is gone I feel I need to step up my pro-elven game.

 

Where in the lore? I hate missing things especially when it feels like we only have half the jigsaw pieces to the problem that is Thedas. 

[Cee]

I just thought of the most random modern Solavellan-related AU idea while I was making coffee and sort of letting my mind wander, and yet it might...work? Hmm.

 

 I read someone's fic and there turned out to be a baby and maybe the elf babies question from the other day and my good friend being like 5 months pregnant have all converged. In this idea, Solas would already be gone. And I'm totally not into the Solavellan babies tag or idea but other ideas formed around this and basically, this is what happens when I let my mind wander before caffeine.

[Caddius]

For me a lot of it has to do with life stage, TBH.  I was in college when I first played DA:O, with no idea what I was doing in life, so Wynne's grandmotherly advice really struck a chord with me.  Upon replaying DA:O and reading Asunder last year, she drove me absolutely NUTS.  After Asunder and WoT2, it becomes really apparent how much she's projecting her own past on the Warden, especially Amell/Surana.

Wee Baby Caddius: She's very wise. I like her.

Three Years Ago Caddius: Eh, she's kind of preachy, but she still has the right idea:

Current Caddius: Lady, you don't know nothing about being a Grey Warden, or responsibility. Quit preaching to the choir and get your nose out of me and Alistair's relationship. (I still have a grudging respect due to how fiercely she seems to protect her students during Broken Circle.)

 

Solas is more my kind of mentor figure. Or even Vivienne.   

[CapricornSun]

Hey guys I have been lurking on this wonderful thread for awhile, but couldn't resist anymore, so hello! 

 

I have a question / curious. Considering Solas / Mythal situation and what part this may or may not play in future (possible) DLC, I was wondering did you have your Inquisitor drink from the Well or Morrigan? And why? I am doing my cannon 100+ nightmare playthrough and just about to go to complete this story mission at the temple, but as I can't decide which way to go I keep postponing it. On the bright side, because of my indecisiveness I have 100% the Hinterlands   Thanks!

 

Shallow waters already pointed out some good reasons for and against drinking from the Well but I thought I'd add my 2 cents in.

 

My Lavellan is a rogue so maybe she is less inclined to drink than a mage Lavellan, but my reasons for not making her drink from it include:

 

- Finding out that the elvhen gods are not like how the Dalish thought they would be and are actually pretty horrifying.

- The thought of being bound to the will of one of the said elvhen gods after finding out that they're not very pleasant beings? Not very enticing.

- And the thought of having thousands of voices in your head? No thank you.

- Cole warns the Inquisitor against drinking from the Well, and I trust Cole.

- Solas also advised against drinking from the Well, but then again he also doesn't want Morrigan drinking from it either. 

 

My Lavellan is already stressed with having the Mark, I don't think she's down with the idea of being bound in servitude to an elvhen goddess who could potentially be nuts. Plus, I headcanon my Lavellan pretty much lost faith in all the elvhen gods by that point. Especially when she finally met Flemythal and found out that she's been around this whole time and did nothing to help the People but is instead busy with her little revenge plot. 

 

EDIT: Also, it's pretty amusing seeing Morrigan's reaction as she finds out that she just bound herself to her mother, of all people.

 

EDIT 2: I might make my mage m!Lavellan drink from it though, because heritage and knowledge and all that jazz. 

[Cee]

Hello!

 

Both of my Lavellans drank from the well because it was their heritage and they didn't trust Morrigan. My other inquisitors didn't drank from the well because they didn't like the idea of being bound to some elven goddess if she exists and because Morrigan wanted to drink from the well so badly they decided that it was for the best.

 

I'm not sure is it a good idea to drink from the well but everytime I think about it I come to a conclusion that it's best for my Lavellans to do that. However I have a save before that decision if it turns out to be a bad decision. I mean if you can't get Solas back if you drank from it for example then I can load that save and make a different decision. Although I doubt that drinking from the well has so huge consequences what comes to getting Solas back.

 

 

Since nobody but Morrigan wanted to do it, and there was the unknown consequence of what drinking entailed, my Lavellan listened to Solas, who advised against it. It was a character moment so that's what happened. She still had duties - to stop Corypheus, to lead this organization, and with the unknown price of what doing this might entail, she trusted Solas and let Morrigan pay the price.

 

My second Lavellan, my mage, will be drinking herself. She was a First, she knows more about certain things. She will take the risk.

[Cee]

 

EDIT: Also, it's pretty amusing seeing Morrigan's reaction as she finds out that she just bound herself to her mother, of all people.

 

This was one of the best parts, honestly.   The one person she had been trying to get and stay away from.

 

I really liked how that scene was written, as well. Especially with the matter of Kieran.

[Caddius]

This was one of the best parts, honestly.   The one person she had been trying to get and stay away from.

 

I really liked how that scene was written, as well. Especially with the matter of Kieran.

I love how Flemythal basically skips into the scene and is cackling, like, "Oh, this is too good. I didn't even plan this, but it's perfect! Daughter dearest, you should try being me sometime, it's fantastic! "

 

[DustyTulip]

 

On the subject, what are Solas's objections? I don't actually know myself, because I let Morrigan drink.

 From the memory, it mostly sums up to: 'why would you willingly let anyone control your mind?!??!'

[Abelas Forever!]

Since nobody but Morrigan wanted to do it, and there was the unknown consequence of what drinking entailed, my Lavellan listened to Solas, who advised against it. It was a character moment so that's what happened. She still had duties - to stop Corypheus, to lead this organization, and with the unknown price of what doing this might entail, she trusted Solas and let Morrigan pay the price.

 

My second Lavellan, my mage, will be drinking herself. She was a First, she knows more about certain things. She will take the risk.

I have been thinking about creating a Lavellan that woudn't drink from the well but it's very hard because everytime I think about it I come to a conclusion that my Lavellan would drank from it because it's her heritage and it seems that I can't get over from that thought.

[DustyTulip]

EDIT: Also, it's pretty amusing seeing Morrigan's reaction as she finds out that she just bound herself to her mother, of all people.

 

 

 

This was one of the best parts, honestly.   The one person she had been trying to get and stay away from.

 

I really liked how that scene was written, as well. Especially with the matter of Kieran.

 

ARGH!   I had a default world state on that playthrough and missed this! 

[Siha]

Wait, there is no Geth consensus among fans? 

Then what the hell did I get the glitter-cyber-implants for? 

 

Yes! Some of the people mean to keep their "individuality" and refuse to accept Loghain, Meredith, or Anders as what they should! But worry not, resistance is futile (sooner or later).

 

Did you get the Witcher already?

And the Hakkon DLC?

[Caddius]

Yes! Some of the people mean to keep their "individuality" and refuse to accept Loghain, Meredith, or Anders as what they should! But worry not, resistance is futile (sooner or later).

 

Did you get the Witcher already?

And the Hakkon DLC?

Witcher, yes. .

Haakon, no. Various Internet shenanigans and busyness. Either next weekend, or the weekend after that.

Also, I'll need to see if we have a save that won't die horribly and can bring Solas along. 

[Siha]

Witcher, yes. .

Haakon, no. Various Internet shenanigans and busyness. Either next weekend, or the weekend after that.

Also, I'll need to see if we have a save that won't die horribly and can bring Solas along. 

 

I read something about free DLC (Missing Miners and an outfit for Yennefer or something) but every time I want to download it, it suddenly no longer exists. It's so frustrating. I really don't know what's the issue.

 

I have enough saves (also planning to get it this weekend), but my friend said it's not soo hard, so maybe you can actually use an early save.

[BoscoBread]

Yes! Some of the people mean to keep their "individuality" and refuse to accept Loghain, Meredith, or Anders as what they should! But worry not, resistance is futile (sooner or later).

 

Did you get the Witcher already?

And the Hakkon DLC?

The Witcher you say? Can we discuss how noone likes me in that game and Geralt just cries to everybody about everything.  Currently I'm playing as a sad-sack who noone loves - mostly because everytime I try to be nice, everybody just threatens me with violence and then I have to kill them all.  It's my favorite way to RP.  Geralt - the saddest most unliked man in Temeria. 

[Cee]

 I have enough saves (also planning to get it this weekend), but my friend said it's not soo hard, so maybe you can actually use an early save.

 

The official recommendation is for levels 20+ and Mike Laidlaw (IIRC) said that the difficulty was increased a little as an experiment on Hard+ I think. I play on normal, so didn't affect me, but just in case you put it up. I started it as a level ~24 stabby rogue with pretty much the best gear I could make/loot and hit the cap of 27 while playing.

[Siha]

The Witcher you say? Can we discuss how noone likes me in that game and Geralt just cries to everybody about everything.  Currently I'm playing as a sad-sack who noone loves - mostly because everytime I try to be nice, everybody just threatens me with violence and then I have to kill them all.  It's my favorite way to RP.  Geralt - the saddest most unliked man in Temeria.

 
Well, it would be darn hard to discuss how everybody likes you and supports you because... yeah, because you're a witcher and we all know the world hates those talented ones who can save us all.
Are you playing the new one?

The official recommendation is for levels 20+ and Mike Laidlaw (IIRC) said that the difficulty was increased a little as an experiment on Hard+ I think.

 
Huh? didn't they say it adjusted to the level of the player because they hate selling DLCs you cannot play at any time? I am sure somebody quoted this here when it came out...
But even Nightmare wasn't so hard in DAI, I assume it will be fine either way.