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Ehh, I think the sentinels were slaves. I think they were willing slaves, but I think they were slaves. They had vallaslin. Solas says that means slavery. If vallaslin sometimes meant slavery and also sometimes meant "non-slave priests," then Solas wouldn't have corrected the Dalish interpretation. Markings that honor the guards...because the priests at the temples wear them. That'd be a legit interpretation that Solas wouldn't need to go all Solas on. The vallaslin on the priests may even be where/how the Dalish got the distorted idea of what the vallaslin were. But the vallaslin can only ACTUALLY be slave markings if the priests were ACTUALLY slaves.

That is a good point, too. Abelas does say he is "bound" -- but whether it's by his doing, or Mythal's, I do not know. Given that they wore vallaslin, and the information Solas shares, one would infer they carry the markings as slaves. It does make sense to me as well that it is a sign of fealty and servitude -- maybe since elvish can be such a flexible language, those also go hand in hand with slavery. Not necessarily -- but not not necessarily?

I'm going to stick with thinking of them as Mythal's samurai. Only obviously, they didn't go pull a 47 Ronin. Unless that's where Abelas is going. Hah.

Edit: And yes! I do believe that while Solas and Mythal are considered friends, maybe they didn't start out that way. Solas obviously doesn't agree with some of Mythal's practices (the Well). As a form of spreading knowledge, it's ace. As a gaes? Not so much. And, unless he was born among them or founded them (or was enslaved to them), this might be why Solas was welcomed among the Forgotten Ones -- he opposed the Pantheon's beliefs. But then he probably learned the Forgotten Ones were a little crazy, too. Probably contributed to his trust issues.



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I'm of no help there. I usually go deeply into lore and language and/or real world meanings for my character names but for my Lavellan, I borrowed most of her name from one of my Elder Scrolls elves and added a letter.

 

They are very, very different characters (ES high elf is a mage, for one). And my Lavellan has become way more meaningful to me.

 

 

I use a name generator.  'Fantasy name generators' has a pretty good selection including The Lord of the Rings (complete with meanings), Dragon Age and Elder Scrolls.  I also have a dictonary of Tolkien's languages.

 

 

It doesn't matter who holds the leash, it's still taking away their freedom.  That's why he hates the Qun.

 

Thank you both for the suggestions. I think I might flub it and roll with whatever I put together since I am struggling with the mechanics of it.



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On names: I took my first character's name from my best friend's ex-girlfriend, would not recommend.

 

I suggest looking at Welsh, Irish, and Scottish Gaelic names in case there's anything you like there too (dalish have the accent, might as well give 'em the name). That's usually where I take my inspiration.


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I think I might flub it and roll with whatever I put together since I am struggling with the mechanics of it

 

I used to get way too bogged down with lore consistent names, so I started just doing nicknames that could stand for a more legitimate name that I know I'd never be able to come up with.



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I think people are too quick to assume that one god being a wisp and possessing someone = all gods possess someone.  The evidence we were given in game very much supports Solas always having been who he is.  I also think it takes away from his character if he is just some random elf possessed by a god.  It gives more of a chance that Fen'Harel's host body is affecting his thoughts and feelings, rather than having developed as a person over the years.

 

 

A good point!  Not something I'd considered before.

 

I agree in general, I'm more inclined to support the idea that Solas is Fen'Harel, no possession.

 

BUT. The thing is, there isn't a lot to suggest that one wisp = all wisps is not true; I mean, it could be that the pantheon's "ascent to godhood" involved transforming into a non-physical form of existence, i.e. a spirit of the Fade that transitioned not through death, rather through some other means and thus (maybe) retaining knowledge and consciousness that they otherwise wouldn't have.

 

Personally, I don't like the idea too much, I would find it far more charming to discover that Solas is merely an alias name but one and the same physically, mentally and emotionally, yet I cannot entirely exclude the possibility just yet. I agree that so far the evidence seems to point towards Lone Wolf, but I'm keeping an open mind.

 

do really like the idea of "High Elves" who can exist in both the Fade and the real world simultaneously... I'd go so far to say that part of Solas' lack of power problem might be connected to not being able to enter the Fade anymore for whatever reason. It could be this is his prison, being "locked in mortal form" or something.

 

I have to speculate more on this.


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Slightly off topic, how did you come up with a name for your character? I am toying with the idea doing a run with a Dalish archer and a tweaked world state that is a little grimmer than my canon play-through.

 

I've been looking at FenxShiral's work, but I am struggling to understand how to put words together to get a name. From their work, it seems like you take were the two or three words overlap and go from there. Is word order important or not? Sometimes it seems like the names take the beginning of a word while others seem to use the middle or end of a word use in the construction of the name. How do you know which part of a word to use? If any of you have a better grasp on this I would be eternally grateful.

 

I have asked FenxShiral through their Tumblr, but I think that I might have come off as asking them to create name for me as I character count for asking a question did not allow me to go into detail as to what I was struggling with.

 

I always start with a letter that suits my character, though generally I tend to gravitate towards S, A or G for fantasy games. Then add a y or a double consonant in there for good measure, perhaps an apostrophe, and you're pretty much set. I tend to agree with the notion of searching Gaelic, etc. names and maybe putting a spin on them, or go for Arthurian legend names (as I do with some frequency).

 

I'm pretty terrible at giving advice about this, I think. As a writer I tend to create most of my character names myself, but I'm not exactly sure how I do it. Perhaps if I wrote a wall of text (again) I would find the answer and possibly give one as a result.  :lol:

 

...Yeah, I'm going to spare everyone from that this time.

 

Geralt-land awaits me!  :lol:



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Some art for today. :)

 

Modern AU Solas by the amazing needapotion. I love the ear slits on the hoodie! <3

 

Some cute sketches by osatokun.

 

Solas pencil sketch.

 

Fen'Harel palette meme.

 

Never trust an egg.

 

Forehead kiss.

 

Lavellan wants to fight the dragon at the Hinterlands at Level 4. XD

 

"In another world."

 

And not art, but an an interesting cosplay photo of Solas, Lavellan, and Morrigan at the supermarket. xD


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Another interesting theory! And if he bound it to you, maybe he could unbind it as well?

 

Maybe. Maybe he can't complete his mission without inquisitor's mark and he'll have to come back to get it or if the mark cannot be taken from inquisitor's hand then maybe he will have to take inquisitor with him.



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By the way, I just started playing Jaws of Hakkon (finally). Since I'm on PS3, I could only imagine that the Frostback Basin is even more beautiful on PC and on the next-gen consoles. xD

 

EDIT: Also, the first thing I do when I arrive at the Frostback Basin after talking to Scout Harding and Professor Kenric? Collect shards. :P


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What the **** is taking Bioware so long to come out with dlc. I'm a bit surprised people still have the enthusiasm for anything related to dragon age anymore with this wait. Jesus.

 

Caution: Mild Witcher 3: Wild Hunt spoilers.

Would it make you feel better to know that I'm romancing Triss my first (non-scrapped :P ) playthrough in your honor? :D

(It has nothing to do with how I realized that, once I'd fully romanced Yen, I'd never be able to not romance her.  :lol: But Triss is awesome, too. But if the opening scene added Yen yelling puns down at Geralt from the balcony, you have my SO and me as sorceress and Witcher, respectively. ^_^ )

But yeah, the wait is quite long. I'm hoping for something really splendid to sink my teeth into.

Like, say, Jaws of Haakon, freaking finally, tomorrow.  B)


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Caution: Mild Witcher 3: Wild Hunt spoilers.

Would it make you feel better to know that I'm romancing Triss my first (non-scrapped :P ) playthrough in your honor? :D

(It has nothing to do with how I realized that, once I'd fully romanced Yen, I'd never be able to not romance her.  :lol: But Triss is awesome, too. But if the opening scene added Yen yelling puns down at Geralt from the balcony, you have my SO and me as sorceress and Witcher, respectively. ^_^ )

But yeah, the wait is quite long. I'm hoping for something really splendid to sink my teeth into.

Like, say, Jaws of Haakon, freaking finally, tomorrow.  B)

 

Maybe a teeny bit :P I'm still a Triss fan, though it doesn't help that my gf reminds me of Yen in the looks department....


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I said it first -- you came up with a dialogue -- I modded dialogue in to a dog comic. IT WAS GROUP EFFORT :D

And it's gonna catch on, dangnammit! Edit, for those who don't know:
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A joint effect of BEAUTY.

 

Hihi! How've you all been? I'm on kind of an anti-Cullen roll so, because incorrectdragonage is on hiatus (sadfaaaaaace), I made this :3

 

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"solas will have none of your shemlen nonsense."

 

(rebloggable)

 

 
 

I agree the hate isn't warranted but I also think Solas lacks tact sometimes and I think that's where most of their frustrations stem from, especially because it's something as big as this bombshell. Sure, it's no biggie to him. He lived it. But it's huge to her because it basically uproots everything she knows about her culture and history. Kinda hard to swallow the fact that you and your people have been living with slave markings on their faces their entire lives. It's not about how he feels because we know how he feels. It's about how Lavellan feels. He put her in a really difficult predicament: choose to live the rest of your life with slave markings and constantly be reminded every time you see another Dalish clan member, living in willful ignorance or remove a symbol of everything you've ever known about your culture and risk having your lifelong friends and family resent you for it. I agree with you it's not abusive considering what they are but it definitely was tactless.

 

There is also another view of the markngs that Lavellan can take: the view that it doesn't matter what they meant then, it's what they mean now that's important.


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Hihi! How've you all been? I'm on kind of an anti-Cullen roll so, because incorrectdragonage is on hiatus (sadfaaaaaace), I made this :3

 

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"solas will have none of your shemlen nonsense."

 

(rebloggable)

 

 
 

I agree the hate isn't warranted but I also think Solas lacks tact sometimes and I think that's where most of their frustrations stem from, especially because it's something as big as this bombshell. Sure, it's no biggie to him. He lived it. But it's huge to her because it basically uproots everything she knows about her culture and history. Kinda hard to swallow the fact that you and your people have been living with slave markings on their faces their entire lives. It's not about how he feels because we know how he feels. It's about how Lavellan feels. He put her in a really difficult predicament: choose to live the rest of your life with slave markings and constantly be reminded every time you see another Dalish clan member, living in willful ignorance or remove a symbol of everything you've ever known about your culture and risk having your lifelong friends and family resent you for it. I agree with you it's not abusive considering what they are but it definitely was tactless.

 

 

I don't believe Solas lacks tact. I think he believes that truth is more important than anything and sometimes the truth is hard to hear. So now the Quiz knows the truth about the vallaslin and knowledge is power. She can do with it what she wants. She can keep the markings or ask him to remove them. He respects her either way. But I think for Solas arming a person with knowledge and giving them freedom of choice is number one. 

 

I DO believe he wasn't prepared to tell her that info at that precise moment so it comes across a bit awkward. The writers stated that Solas took the Quiz out there to tell her the "TRUTH" but chickened out. I don't think it was tact he was missing at that moment, it was courage. 


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Not sure if this was posted here before, but regarding the vallaslin, did anyone see Weekes' tweet about whether Solas would've told a male Lavellan the truth about it?

 

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Tweet  Bird@vhenadarling 

Hi, longtime DA fan/new to Twitter & had a few questions? 1) Would Solas have told male elf Inqy about the vallaslin?(1/2)

Link: https://twitter.com/...984699102265344

 

Tweet  Bird@vhenadarling 

(2/2) And 2) Will we hear how the Hero of Ferelden's quest re: the Calling turns out?Thank you so much for the time, sir! :)(2/2) And 2) Will we hear how the Hero of Ferelden's quest re: the Calling turns out?Thank you so much for the time, sir! :)

Link: https://twitter.com/...985007421358080

 

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes 

@vhenadarling Sorry, no spoilers on future content. Solas only told female elf because he was in a romance and got flustered. :)

Link: https://twitter.com/...987970747367425


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He's also a bit flustered on the balcony. A couple of his 'tells' come into play there. It's pretty brilliant.

 

He pauses, he looks away as be brings up the whole Fade excuse again...even the beginning trigger for the scene has him go "Inquisitor, I was...."

 

Solas is calm and collected unless there's strong emotion involved, one way or another.


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I love it when he gets flustered. It's adorable.


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It's adorable and sexy that Solas can be both incredibly smooth and flustered :3  me gusta


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That's how most of us wound up here in the first place.

 

Solas: *Unexpectedly says something smooth*

Lavellan: :blink: .... :blush:


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That's how most of us wound up here in the first place.

 

Solas: *Unexpectedly says something smooth*

Lavellan: :blink: .... :blush:

 

Exactly.

Me, before DAI: Well I think I'll romance that Solas, "the Mind". He really seems to be my type and he seems v interesting. Although I don't know about "bald", that's kinda strange.
Me, first DAI night: OMG HE SNORTS WHEN HE LAUGHS?? omg??? THAT's ADORABLE?? It's been 15 minutes and I'M DONE
Me, first DAI night: 'INDOMITABLE FOCUS'????!!!!? Weren't you supposed to be an awkward, shy and blushing fade nerd??? I'M the blushing nerd right now!!!
Me, first DAI night: ........... I'm doomed. I love him. Prepare yourself, Floriane, in a couple of hours, it's possible you'll even find him more attractive than Zevran, haha.
Me, some hours later: Omg crap Solas is the most handsome character I've ever seen.

EDIT: haha, "wound up here". I'm wounded alright.
EDIT2: sorry I'm drunk
EDIT3: OMG top post. Huh. Self promotion?

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Source: http://sihaofskyhold...oying-their-big

 


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That's how most of us wound up here in the first place.

 

Solas: *Unexpectedly says something smooth*

Lavellan: :blink: .... :blush:

 

Me: Solas looks interesting!

 

Me: I'm going to romance Sera!  She looks adorable!  *hangs out in the Sera thread*

 

Me: Man, Solas seems to get a lot of hate.  I should go into his thread and say hi.

 

Thread: *Theory crafting and Disney songs*

 

Me: Wow.  Pretty werid.

 

*Later: having written/co-written several Frozen song re-writes*

 

Me: THIS PLACE IS MY HOME NOW


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I totally thought my Lavellan might go for Sera, maybe Iron Bull, or even Josephine.....but nope. Solas was probably the one I was personally least interested in to start...and my decision to play an elf was something I very much do not regret.


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I totally thought my Lavellan might go for Sera, maybe Iron Bull, or even Josephine.....but nope. Solas was probably the one I was personally least interested in to start...and my decision to play an elf was something I very much do not regret.

 

Right up until I played DAI thought my first Lavellan was going to be Sera.  I was going to have a mage/rogue romance with Sera and then a mage/rogue romance with Solas.  Then it changed to maybe having a mage/mage with Solas when Weekes tweeted that Solas had complimented his Lavellan's magic.

 

Then when I played it, well...


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The "You like my side benefits?" flirt line for a rogue was just....whoa.... <_<

 

:wub:

 

That was where it began for me, though I maybe flirted with Sera after that, it was still while in Haven that I stopped taking flirt cues with anyone else other than Solas.


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Not sure if this was posted here before, but regarding the vallaslin, did anyone see Weekes' tweet about whether Solas would've told a male Lavellan the truth about it?

 

SOURCE

Spoiler

 

Tweet  Bird@vhenadarling 

Hi, longtime DA fan/new to Twitter & had a few questions? 1) Would Solas have told male elf Inqy about the vallaslin?(1/2)

Link: https://twitter.com/...984699102265344

 

Tweet  Bird@vhenadarling 

(2/2) And 2) Will we hear how the Hero of Ferelden's quest re: the Calling turns out?Thank you so much for the time, sir! :)(2/2) And 2) Will we hear how the Hero of Ferelden's quest re: the Calling turns out?Thank you so much for the time, sir! :)

Link: https://twitter.com/...985007421358080

 

Patrick Weekes@PatrickWeekes 

@vhenadarling Sorry, no spoilers on future content. Solas only told female elf because he was in a romance and got flustered. :)

Link: https://twitter.com/...987970747367425

I wonder if he was planning to tell her at all?  It almost sounds like he might not have done so had he not been flustered and caught off guard by her, and had to say something..?  Hmm...

 

It's nice too to know a bit more about his thoughts on this with a male Inquisitor :)



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I wonder if he was planning to tell her at all?  It almost sounds like he might not have done so had he not been flustered and caught off guard by her, and had to say something..?  Hmm...

 

It's nice too to know a bit more about his thoughts on this with a male Inquisitor :)

He wasn't going to tell her about the vallaslin (at that moment, anyway). He was planning on telling her the big truth before he chickened out. The vallaslin thing was staring at him right in the face, so that's what he said instead. He did indeed have to say something -- not at all what he intended! :)


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