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Though this question did remind me of this banter:

 

If the Inquisitor is in a romance with Iron Bull.)

  • Cole: She/He almost says the word sometimes. Katoh. She/He tastes it in her/his mouth, sweet release a breath away, tongue tying it tenderly like you tie her/him. But she/he doesn't. For you, and for her/him because it makes it mean more. A fuller feeling, a brighter burst.
  • Iron Bull: Yeah. (Coughs.) How's she/he feel about you saying this in front of everybody?
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  • Inquisitor: If a rift opened up right now and swallowed me I'd be fine with that.
  • Varric (if in party): Listen, do whatever works for you. You don't have to act restrained in front of us.
  • Solas (if in party): Provided it tied you down first one assumes.
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I continue to be surprised that no one has asked Weekes if that was an oversight or if Bull just didn't think Solas was the type to do anything, let alone get tied up.  I really wonder what his word would have been. :P

There needs to be a Solas fandom twitter account that tweets these kind of things for us. Sorta like the DAConfessions thing.



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There needs to be a Solas fandom twitter account that tweets these kind of things for us. Sorta like the DAConfessions thing.

There are two

 

SolasBot

and another one


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I also blushed. And then I had to suppress a giggle when Cole said Lavellan should ask Solas to bind her.

When does Cole say this? I've never had him say that to any of my Lavellans. I'm a little disappointed I've never gotten that line  :lol:



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There are two

 

SolasBot

and another one

Someone needs to tweet the question to the SolasBot then and put the answer here! I would, but I sadly fail at social media.

 

Would still like to know what Weekes would have to say about it though.


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"You're well in it, aren't you?  I bet he calls out 'ELVEN GLORY' when he does it"

 

Viv isn't the only one to notice!

 

I love Sera's other line about Solavallen;

 

"Oh come on, drop 'em and rebuild the Empire, phwoar!"

 

:lol:


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I continue to be surprised that no one has asked Weekes if that was an oversight or if Bull just didn't think Solas was the type to do anything, let alone get tied up.  I really wonder what his word would have been. :P

I doubt it was an oversight, Solas is really into the whole freedom thing, and I can't see him as anything but a total dom. :D


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When does Cole say this? I've never had him say that to any of my Lavellans. I'm a little disappointed I've never gotten that line  :lol:

 

During Cole's personal quest about the amulet (after Here Lies the Abyss) when you pick one of the lines ... I forget which one, I think it's something how a blood mage could take over anyone's mind? ... and Cole basically says that Solas could bind the Inquisitor too.


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During Cole's personal quest about the amulet (after Here Lies the Abyss) when you pick one of the lines ... I forget which one, I think it's something how a blood mage could take over anyone's mind? ... and Cole basically says that Solas could bind the Inquisitor too.

Oh ok I guess I haven't picked the right line then. Thanks!



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During Cole's personal quest about the amulet (after Here Lies the Abyss) when you pick one of the lines ... I forget which one, I think it's something how a blood mage could take over anyone's mind? ... and Cole basically says that Solas could bind the Inquisitor too.

 

Lavellan: Waste of time... Creators know how I've tried!

 

:whistle:

 

(C'mon devs, even a romanced Cullen got a quip about his sturdy desk during Sera's prank scene!)


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I love Sera's other line about Solavallen;

 

"Oh come on, drop 'em and rebuild the Empire, phwoar!"

 

:lol:

 Careful what you wish for, Sera.

 

There is a line that Vivienne says to Solas that I was like "If you only knew...." when I heard it on my second playthrough.

 

  • Vivienne: So, apostate. If the Circle is such a failure, what would be your solution? Would you have your fellow mages live among the people, unguarded, unwatched?
  • Solas: Yes.
  • Vivienne: And when they became possessed, or use their power to harm?
  • Solas: I would kill them. Magic is more elegant than a blade or a bow, but a murderer remains a murderer.
  • Vivienne: So you alone would pass judgment, repay murder with murder, or do we open this up to mobs and vigilantes? If you're going to dispense judgment upon violent mages yourself, you'll need eternal life and omniscience. If only there were individuals dedicated to finding and eliminating such criminals. Perhaps they might help?
  • Solas: I am certain they would. Until black and white distinctions perverted their simple minds.

While Solas may not have total omniscience.....I'm sure he does in comparison to all the mere mortals around him lol.


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and I can't see him as anything but a total dom. :D

He does have a really long belt...


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 Careful what you wish for, Sera.

 

There is a line that Vivienne says to Solas that I was like "If you only knew...." when I heard it on my second playthrough.

 

  • Vivienne: So, apostate. If the Circle is such a failure, what would be your solution? Would you have your fellow mages live among the people, unguarded, unwatched?
  • Solas: Yes.
  • Vivienne: And when they became possessed, or use their power to harm?
  • Solas: I would kill them. Magic is more elegant than a blade or a bow, but a murderer remains a murderer.
  • Vivienne: So you alone would pass judgment, repay murder with murder, or do we open this up to mobs and vigilantes? If you're going to dispense judgment upon violent mages yourself, you'll need eternal life and omniscience. If only there were individuals dedicated to finding and eliminating such criminals. Perhaps they might help?
  • Solas: I am certain they would. Until black and white distinctions perverted their simple minds.

While Solas may not have total omniscience.....I'm sure he does in comparison to all the mere mortals around him lol.

In that last line I think he was taking a stab at his fellow "gods" as well, like he's already been down that road, and it turned out not so well. He's bitter and jaded for the ages.


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 Careful what you wish for, Sera.

 

There is a line that Vivienne says to Solas that I was like "If you only knew...." when I heard it on my second playthrough.

 

  • Vivienne: So, apostate. If the Circle is such a failure, what would be your solution? Would you have your fellow mages live among the people, unguarded, unwatched?
  • Solas: Yes.
  • Vivienne: And when they became possessed, or use their power to harm?
  • Solas: I would kill them. Magic is more elegant than a blade or a bow, but a murderer remains a murderer.
  • Vivienne: So you alone would pass judgment, repay murder with murder, or do we open this up to mobs and vigilantes? If you're going to dispense judgment upon violent mages yourself, you'll need eternal life and omniscience. If only there were individuals dedicated to finding and eliminating such criminals. Perhaps they might help?
  • Solas: I am certain they would. Until black and white distinctions perverted their simple minds.

While Solas may not have total omniscience.....I'm sure he does in comparison to all the mere mortals around him lol.

 

*gasps* Now I have a very good reason to take Vivienne and Solas with me in the same team. I admit I left her cooling her heels more than not, but in one of the dozens of new PT's I have I will find a slot for this companion combination.

 

Random complaint time!

Has anyone seen my Muse?  :bandit: I'm pretty sure she's lurking on this thread instead of paying attention to what I'm working on. This is highly inconvenient. Arrrgh Solas, it isn't fair to steal my wits. Not at all fair! I'm forced to reallocate Witcher-playing concentration to finish a single scene and this is not a good balance, since I am forced to focus on side quests lest I stay up too long and I end up staying up waaay too long without any meaningful progression in the story which is just ridiculous.

End random complaint time.

 

Next episode: how the core story elements in Macbeth can be remolded into Dragon Age and analyzed using various interpretations of the play in the theater and in movie versions. (Yes, I am luring out my Muse. It's a trap. Don't tip her off, please.) I am particularly interested in the various approaches to the supernatural influence and how this may be symbolically interpreted as a kind of "excuse" to explain Macbeth's actions - this minds me of how the Chantry approaches the power of mages and how a character such as Vivienne would justify their treatment, particularly insightful if one takes into consideration the Great Chain of Being and its ultimate failure as a long-term societal model (also reminiscent of the Qunari, I might add).

 

I'm also interested in the historical evolution of the Fade as a place full of dangers; in Macbeth, it is very interesting to observe a similar stance in the form of the witches evolving over the various adaptations from hideous and surreal to more "ordinary" seductive sirens, thus the suggestion of who is actually to blame (supernatural forces or our own conscience) is all open to the interpretation of the age. It leads me to believe that one of the core issues with Vivienne is that she is unwilling to look beyond the face of things as they are and have been for quite some time, she does not grasp that this axis of danger she sees in mages being free versus being locked up (figuratively, in her imagination, which is all she has known) because she has never witnessed any mage who is able to function outside of expectations. Since Solas has a similar issue with expectations, this collision of beliefs is quite an interesting one, yet this last comment of his alone would lead me to believe that he definitely has the capacity and willingness to keep a dynamic view of morality that is defined by both shouldering responsibility and by having a regulated system of supervision that is always correcting itself to keep from falling into preconceived ideals of justice.

 

Back to self-fulfilling prophecy. In this day and age, it is relevant to consider that most mages have grown up knowing only this axis of existence, there is no room for different interpretations, ergo Solas' idea would not work, at least at first, yet that does not mean that the idea should not be pursued. Plus there is the sheltered existence factor - Vivienne herself is a prime example of that. So, in essence, the problem with Vivienne's viewpoint is that she is omitting the possibility of mages taking responsibility for themselves and for their actions, i.e. mages have been largely raised to remain children in the eyes of the world and they cannot help but act like it in many instances. This issue prevents the natural evolution of recapturing lost magic and of finding the right balance between magical folk and non-mages. Of course, there is Tevinter as the cautionary tale - yet that also is on the same axis as the Chantry of the rest of Thedas and this is the true plight of mages. They are all stuck in their place in the Great Chain of Being and neither they nor the non-mages can truly grasp what the burdens of actual freedom are. See how awesome Macbeth is? Yes.

 

I realize probably none of that made sense. But I really like analyzing Macbeth. And Dragon Age.

 

Now! Can I move on to finishing that scene....? It is epic! With a great struggle of truth and lies, filled with major plot revelations that make the enemy a friend, yet still an enemy for belonging (unwillingly) to a faction who is both friend and enemy depending on interpretation............

....you see where I'm going with this, right? Right?

 

It's such a lovely scene! All I need is the right dramatic musical backdrop to channel the right amount of dark "oh, no!" and and and... I'm not in denial about writer's block, I'M NOT. It's perfectly under control. I can do this.

 

I CAN.

 

:whistle: Sorry. I lost my mind a bit. Maybe more coffee will help.  :crying:


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Admission: I really like Vivienne's dialogue and love how much of a total ice queen she is to other characters. It's glorious. (And it's also glorious watching other characters putting her in her place).

Thing is, if I'm playing a mage, you won't take more than two mages total in my party, so she's almost never there in favour of Dorian and Solas, who are two of my top picks, being immediately more likeable and dynamic characters. Viv's got depth most people don't credit her for, but it's not as evident as the other mages.
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Admission: I really like Vivienne's dialogue and love how much of a total ice queen she is to other characters. It's glorious. (And it's also glorious watching other characters putting her in her place).

Thing is, if I'm playing a mage, you won't take more than two mages total in my party, so she's almost never there in favour of Dorian and Solas, who are two of my top picks, being immediately more likeable and dynamic characters. Viv's got depth most people don't credit her for, but it's not as evident as the other mages.

 

I adore her conversations with Solas, personally. I don't think they hate each other as much as they like to act. I think they rather enjoy going at it with someone who can go toe to toe with them in snark and biting condescension! :lol: I can tell there's depth potential with Vivienne but I feel like it wasn't explored as much as it could have been, unfortunately. I feel that way with some other companions too.


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Off topic: Didn't want to get too into the next comic page, since I was waiting for Game of Thrones to come on... and instead I took the time to doodle a concept hair Solas.

Disclaimer: I think egg head Solas is best Solas. They made the right choice. :)

solas_hair_lothlenan.jpg

 


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Off topic: Didn't want to get too into the next comic page, since I was waiting for Game of Thrones to come on... and instead I took the time to doodle a concept hair Solas.

Disclaimer: I think egg head Solas is best Solas. They made the right choice. :)

solas_hair_lothlenan.jpg

 

 

I think concept hair Solas is my favourite headcanon for the young Fen'Harel. Y'know, before he became the nerd egg we know and love  :P


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Admission: I really like Vivienne's dialogue and love how much of a total ice queen she is to other characters. It's glorious. (And it's also glorious watching other characters putting her in her place).

Thing is, if I'm playing a mage, you won't take more than two mages total in my party, so she's almost never there in favour of Dorian and Solas, who are two of my top picks, being immediately more likeable and dynamic characters. Viv's got depth most people don't credit her for, but it's not as evident as the other mages.

 

Vivienne does have depth but I still really hated her. I didn't even recruit her on my second playthrough. She's too mean, condescending, elitist, and self-serving for my Inquisition.


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I think concept hair Solas is my favourite headcanon for the young Fen'Harel. Y'know, before he became the nerd egg we know and love  :P

give to Solas this handsome hair for DA4 Bioware.


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Solas seems to be hot no matter what is happening on his head. He can pull off even the most ridiculous looking hats in the game.

But I have to say that it would be pretty damn pleasing to see young Fen'Harel with the concept hair in the game somehow. And doing that smirk of his.

*sigh*
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give to Solas this handsome hair for DA4 Bioware.

 

I'd rather they make Solas stick with the bald look for DA4 (assuming he'll be in DA4, that is) and keep the hair for flashbacks of his days as young Fen'Harel, but that's just me. :P (EDIT: I've grown to love his egghead look too much.)


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Considering Bioware's track record for horrible hair, I doubt they are going to bring in any hair past shoulder length. 

 

It would take a miracle. Which I hope will happen because I need certain characters to be beautiful...



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I'd rather they make Solas stick with the bald look for DA4 (assuming he'll be in DA4, that is) and keep the hair for flashbacks of his days as young Fen'Harel, but that's just me. :P (EDIT: I've grown to love his egghead look too much.)


Yeah, this is how I would like for it to be shown as well.

Funny thought. Imagine solas showing his younger self to Lavellan in the Fade through a memory of Arlathan or something. Lavellan finds it smexy so after that sometimes in their Fade dates she puts that hair on Solas. And Solas gets cute angry.
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