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[Heidirs]

I am running around with Sera atm, as I have unfortunately messed up ability tree for some of my characters. My though initially was 'well wouldn't it be fun if Viv got all Cold abilities because she is an ice queen, Solas got all of the spirit tree because he loves spirits and Dorian got all the fire abilities because he is hot'? 

 

I actually follow the same line of reasoning for my mages! Dorian gets fire because his nickname is "sparkler" and there's some dialogue references to that being what he primarily uses aside from necromancy.  Although I make sure all my mages have barrier and one of the branches that I think makes it so less mana is spent to cast.

 

Coles dies all the time for me too. My recent tactic has been to give him the best armor possible.

[Sable Rhapsody]

It's them messing with the headcanon endings I had for my HOFs, Cousland in particular, that I'm mad about.
 
I think we're going north for the next few games where the Inquisition has little influence and when we come back it could easily be that another 10 years have passed.

I think they trapped themselves between a rock and a hard place when they decided to have a new PC each game. I prefer it to the Shep approach, but it always raises the awkward question of, "If there's a world-ending catastrophe, where's the epic level hero who ended the last one?"  So to a certain extent, I'm happy to keep headcanons fluid and let them do some hand-waving in regards to Hawke and HoF.  And quizzy, moving forward.

[Patchwork]

I think they trapped themselves between a rock and a hard place when they decided to have a new PC each game. I prefer it to the Shep approach, but it always raises the awkward question of, "If there's a world-ending catastrophe, where's the epic level hero who ended the last one?"  So to a certain extent, I'm happy to keep headcanons fluid and let them do some hand-waving in regards to Hawke and HoF.  And quizzy, moving forward.

 

I'm a fan of both ME works well with keeping one protag while different ones in DA allows a deeper exploration of Thedas.

 

DA2 was okay, Hawke was in the Free Marches and the HOF had no reason to be in another country. I wish BW would just leave my previous pcs alone or if they can't do that go with the KOTOR2 method and allow me some input via dialogue options.    

[Cee]

I arrived at the island...

 

Spoiler

Oh god, as soon as I started running around the island, and heard Telana cry out "Vhenan" I immediately got the feels. ;___; 

 

*sniff* The poor woman.

 

 

You did have warning.

 

 

But oh yes, it really does create a world of feels.

[CapricornSun]

 

You did have warning.

 

 

But oh yes, it really does create a world of feels.

 

LOL, yes I did. xD

 

Spoiler

I just didn't expect the island to be the place where we'll meet the Telana-spirit.

 

*sigh*

 

EDIT: Gosh, I really should be sleeping now. It's 3:30 AM but I can't stop playing! D: 

[Sable Rhapsody]

I'm a fan of both ME works well with keeping one protag while different ones in DA allows a deeper exploration of Thedas.

 

DA2 was okay, Hawke was in the Free Marches and the HOF had no reason to be in another country. I wish BW would just leave my previous pcs alone or if they can't do that go with the KOTOR2 method and allow me some input via dialogue options.    

 

Yeah, the KOTOR 2 method was a little awkward and gamey, but it at least let you have some say in what was going on.  I guess it was the best they could do back in the day before savegame import.  I dunno.  I kind of figured that there's always a chance that the older PCs get dragged out for subplots, so I just left them alone in a nebulous, vague plot haze

[Caddius]

I think they trapped themselves between a rock and a hard place when they decided to have a new PC each game. I prefer it to the Shep approach, but it always raises the awkward question of, "If there's a world-ending catastrophe, where's the epic level hero who ended the last one?"  So to a certain extent, I'm happy to keep headcanons fluid and let them do some hand-waving in regards to Hawke and HoF.  And quizzy, moving forward.

I'm reminded of a TV Tropers comment on this back in Dragon Age II when someone was joking about Wynne coming back from the dead and knocking the Hero of Ferelden in the head with her staff for letting things get out of control.

THE WARDEN: Was it a Blight? Were darkspawn killing people? No? Then it's not my 'freaking' job.

Thedas is a place so fraught with danger I can see it needing multiple Shepards running around the places trying to keep things from falling apart.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Thedas is a place so fraught with danger I can see it needing multiple Shepards running around the places trying to keep things from falling apart.

 

True.  It's a big, dangerous place with limited travel.  Can't just hop into the Normandy and be there in five to solve everyone's problems.  And the DA PCs are nowhere near the Space Jesus potential of Shepard, though quizzy's moving in that direction.

[Gwyvian]

 
Wow.  I just read everyone's GOT spoilers.  Really, REALLY glad I tapped out of the show earlier in the season.  I don't have the energy to nerd rage over this sort of thing any more.  I'm gonna just...go pet my kitty and paint some miniatures 
 

Yeah, my Lavellan's like this. The effect of the breakup certainly shows; she smiles less, she's a lot quieter and more withdrawn. But I did the endgame all at once, and she was going to be damned if Solas's bad social timing cost her a victory on top of a relationship.

 

I almost rushed through the endgame because I really wanted that explanation from him. Solas promised to explain everything once Corypheus was eliminated, so I rocketed through the last quests with increasing anguish and then I discovered that he doesn't explain a thing - but at least I know what's going on, to a degree, even if my PC doesn't. That's a small consolation.

 

Oooh, GOT... oohhhh. I feel such terrible rage at Stannis. Best I stay away from that topic. Far away.

[Gwyvian]

Yeah you're right, it doesn't make sense that the scene took place in the Fade. Bravo, Solas 

 

 

 

 

There are some people that don't handle grief by being more active and transforming sadness into rage; me, for example, I'm usually numbed and unable to do anything but lying down on the bed. But of course when the stakes are saving the world from a mad godlike being, you just have to swallow it up and deal with it, regardless of how you usually handle grief. If there's and exceptional situation to change the way you deal with heartbreak, Corypheus is the one 

 

RE: The breakup, I do consider them broken up, also for the sake of my Lavellan's sanity as Sable said. After all, Solas disappeared without a trace after the final battle, and she has a post-breach world and an Inquisition to deal with. My Lavellan also wants to try to change the situation of elves in Thedas and she wants to visit her clan, so she has too much on her plate to just sit and wait for Solas to return and explain whether they're still a couple or not (like he said he'd do ahem) or just throw everything away and go look for him. I know this is the headcanon of some people and I respect it, but I don't see my Lavellan doing that.

 

That said, I do think we'll get at least a reunion scene, but maybe not a riding off together into the sunset ending *waves tiny Team Optimism flag*

 

This is true - and I didn't mean to imply otherwise, yet from a story perspective (headcanons aside) it seems to me that they chose to assume that either your Lavellan does handle grief this way, being someone who is exceptionally good at solving problems and compartmentalizing, or, if you are the going numb type, that you will go off wandering the countryside and finishing side quests while you recover from your daze. But as you say, when the world is at stake, personal grief is a small aside that the Inquisitor cannot afford to wallow in. Personally I imagine my Lavellan curled up in a ball of tears in the middle of her bed when no one is watching to relieve the feelings so that during the day she can do her job. This is so much worse when Solas is still around and he stonewalls you, I'm almost disappointed that they didn't implement some way to express how distracting that is, never mind the breakup.

[Elda]

I feel like I'm one of a very small number of players with a HoF that makes total sense that she ran off to the west? I played an elven mage that romanced Alistair and gave him the crown of Ferelden. After Soldier's Peak and The events of Awakening, putting and end to the calling (and looking for secrets the Grey Wardens likely tried to hide) made a lot of rp sense for her. Question everything!

[Illyria]

I feel like I'm one of a very small number of players with a HoF that makes total sense that she ran off to the west? I played an elven mage that romanced Alistair and gave him the crown of Ferelden. After Soldier's Peak and The events of Awakening, putting and end to the calling (and looking for secrets the Grey Wardens likely tried to hide) made a lot of rp sense for her. Question everything!

 

It makes sense for my Warden too.  She's an elven mage who loves research and kicking ass (being a Warden is basically her dream job).  She's still in a romance with another Warden so it makes a lot of sense that she'd be researching a way to end the Calling.  What doesn't make sense is staying away when all the stuff with Coryfish was going down, especially when her boyfriend got involved.  After getting his letter she would've been right back in Ferelden (and that wouldn't take long - she's a shapeshifter.  She can fly).

[Sable Rhapsody]

I feel like I'm one of a very small number of players with a HoF that makes total sense that she ran off to the west? I played an elven mage that romanced Alistair and gave him the crown of Ferelden. After Soldier's Peak and The events of Awakening, putting and end to the calling (and looking for secrets the Grey Wardens likely tried to hide) made a lot of rp sense for her. Question everything!

 

It made sense for mine too.  My HoF was pretty jaded about the Wardens, and she romanced Alistair who stayed a Warden.  Honestly, Alistair is probably the only thing keeping her in the Warden organization; she's got a fair few axes to grind with them.  That made it doubly important for the two of them to find a cure for the Calling.  So I was ok with that being the story justification for the HoF running off into the West.

[Cee]

I feel like I'm one of a very small number of players with a HoF that makes total sense that she ran off to the west? I played an elven mage that romanced Alistair and gave him the crown of Ferelden. After Soldier's Peak and The events of Awakening, putting and end to the calling (and looking for secrets the Grey Wardens likely tried to hide) made a lot of rp sense for her. Question everything!

 

 

Some instances do make more sense than others, though you can kind of justify it for various HoF incarnations. For some of us though, our HoF is the Queen of Ferelden and, although there was going to be some kind of bumpy road ahead, she told Alistair she'd support him and rule by his side and they'd face everything together. So....yeah....

 

It does make sense though that they would want to try to find some sort of solution to the Calling and/or the Taint, because there are no heirs and Ferelden could face a succession crisis at some point. Still, is it too much to ask that they remain together? Sigh.

[Gwyvian]

I feel like I'm one of a very small number of players with a HoF that makes total sense that she ran off to the west? I played an elven mage that romanced Alistair and gave him the crown of Ferelden. After Soldier's Peak and The events of Awakening, putting and end to the calling (and looking for secrets the Grey Wardens likely tried to hide) made a lot of rp sense for her. Question everything!

 

It made sense to me as well. My HoF is the queen, but royal duties aside she's still a Grey Warden and "curing" the taint or at least changing its effects is something that would benefit not just all Grey Wardens, but would ensure that she and Alistair don't leave Ferelden high and dry because 1. no heir, 2. the royal line is cut short because of the Calling. I enjoy the semi-fairy tale ending with their union, but that doesn't change the fact that it's actually highly impractical and possibly selfish and irresponsible, so the HoF has to make it work somehow. (Plus I kind of imagine that after all this wandering about her feet itch.)

[Illyria]

Some instances do make more sense than others, though you can kind of justify it for various HoF incarnations. For some of us though, our HoF is the queen of Ferelden and, although there was going to be some kind of bumpy road ahead, she told Alistair she'd support him and rule by his side and they'd face everything together. So....yeah....

 

It does make sense though that they would want to try to find some sort of solution to the Callind and/or the Taint, because there are no heirs and Ferelden could face a succession crisis at some point. Still, is it too much to ask that they remain together? Sigh.

 

It does give your pairing the chance for Cousland/Therien royal babies though.

[Cee]

It does give your pairing the chance for Cousland/Therien royal babies though.

 

Yes, and this is one of the reasons why it does make sense to have her off doing this. Still.

[Sable Rhapsody]

What doesn't make sense is staying away when all the stuff with Coryfish was going down, especially when her boyfriend got involved.  After getting his letter she would've been right back in Ferelden (and that wouldn't take long - she's a shapeshifter.  She can fly).

 

On a meta-level, I'm kind of glad my Warden didn't come rushing back.  I don't remember exactly what the Nightmare says to Warden!Alistair, but it basically calls him a loser who's never achieved anything on his own, and gotten by riding the coat-tails of his betters.  Including his lover, the HoF.  Given how dependent Alistair can be on the Warden back in DA:O, it was nice to see him deal with a crisis on his own in DA:I.  During DA:O, my Amell definitely felt like she took the lead, and sometimes even steamrollered over Alistair a bit.  As of DA:I, it's much easier to see them as equals.

[Uirebhiril]

It does give your pairing the chance for Cousland/Therien royal babies though.

 

Was it said at some point that the ruler of Ferelden would end up having an heir, no matter who it was? Could this possibly be how two wardens would have a child?

 

It's no big deal for my characters, since the "canon" one dies and my second choice would have all the reason in the world to find a cure for the Calling. He wants to remain with Morrigan and continue to raise their son.

[Illyria]

On a meta-level, I'm kind of glad my Warden didn't come rushing back.  I don't remember exactly what the Nightmare says to Warden!Alistair, but it basically calls him a loser who's never achieved anything on his own, and gotten by riding the coat-tails of his betters.  Including his lover, the HoF.  Given how dependent Alistair can be on the Warden back in DA:O, it was nice to see him deal with a crisis on his own in DA:I.  During DA:O, my Amell definitely felt like she took the lead, and sometimes even steamrollered over Alistair a bit.  As of DA:I, it's much easier to see them as equals.

 

I get that.

 

But there's still no way she'd stay away.  Not when there's a blighted magister (and she happens to be BFFs with the one person who might have some insight into that), a tear in the sky and Alistair is being hunted by the Wardens.

[RynJ]

What bothers me about the HoF in DAI is that there's no way my Warden would be out trying to find a cure to the Calling when the frigging world is falling apart right in Ferelden, which she's supposed to rule. That seems the much more pressing issue; no point in finding a cure if everyone dies by Corypheus' hand.  I'd rather they just say they're with whoever their LI is and trying to fight off rift demons/Red templars, etc and we just don't see them instead of sending them off all these strange places and giving them halfhearted continuing stories. Especially since we've pretty much been all out told that we won't see the HoF again

[Illyria]

What bothers me about the HoF in DAI is that there's no way my Warden would be out trying to find a cure to the Calling when the frigging world is falling apart right in Ferelden, which she's supposed to rule. That seems the much more pressing issue.  I'd rather they just say they're with whoever their LI is and trying to fight off rift demons/Red templars, etc and we just don't see them instead of sending them off all these strange places and giving them halfhearted continuing stories. Especially since we've pretty much been all out told that we won't see the HoF again

 

Alistair does give a pretty good reason why she isn't there if he's a Warden.  They got a lead on the Calling cure at the same time they heard rumours of Coryfish.  One of them went to check out the lead, the other the rumours.

 

What doesn't make sense is my Warden writing a letter saying 'oh, the world is ending?  Here is some sweet loot I picked up.  Get Alistair killed and I will end you.  Love and kisses, Surana.'

[DustyTulip]

 Craft daggers for Cole that both generate guard-on-hit, and plant fire runes on them. He'll still be a bit squishy, but the guard-on-hit (I think it's Fade-touched Obsidian) helps a lot. And stack as much melee defense and cold resist gear on him as you possibly can.

 

Oh... it never occurred to me that it was possible to craft guard generating weapons for rogues... Thanks! 

 

 

I arrived at the island...

 

Spoiler

Oh god, as soon as I started running around the island, and heard Telana cry out "Vhenan" I immediately got the feels. ;___; 

 

*sniff* The poor woman.

 

Spoiler

 

This was the point where I was incredibly sad and happy at the same time to play as Lavellan/romance Solas. The island would not resonate with me so much if my Lavellan didn't go through a similar-ish experience herself. Not 100 % sure what happens, as I have not finished the DLC, but it looks that they had to be a part and she was waiting for him until she died?     

 

and 'Vhenan'.... so sad

 

[Illyria]

Oh... it never occurred to me that it was possible to craft guard generating weapons for rogues... Thanks! 

 

And for mages.  Vivienne is always at full barrier and near full guard in my game.  She's a one woman dragon killing machine.

 

Iron Bull Greatly Approves.

[RynJ]

And for mages.  Vivienne is always at full barrier and near full guard in my game.  She's a one woman dragon killing machine.

 

Iron Bull Greatly Approves.

 

Knight Enchanters just aren't fair. At some point while fighting four pride demons at once in that one rift battle in JoH with just my PC by herself, I realized that I was intensely OP.