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[CapricornSun]

Whatever it is you guys do to dream of Solas, tell me your secrets. I want to dream of him at least once. 

 

*ahem*

 

So my latest progress in my JoH playthrough. 

 

Spoiler

Finally met Ameridan. I didn't expect our encounter to be so brief though. D: I'm not so sure why but for some reason I expected he'd be fighting by our side at least for a short period of time but nope.

 

Also, Armor of the Dragon Hunter looks pretty cool but unfortunately my custom armor has better stats that it does. 

[Moirin]

So my latest progress in my JoH playthrough. 

 

Spoiler

Finally met Ameridan. I didn't expect our encounter to be so brief though. D: I'm not so sure why but for some reason I expected he'd be fighting by our side at least for a short period of time but nope.

 

Also, Armor of the Dragon Hunter looks pretty cool but unfortunately my custom armor has better stats that it does. 

 

Spoiler

You'll get (or should get) a schematic in order to craft one, no worries.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Spoiler

Finally met Ameridan. I didn't expect our encounter to be so brief though. D: I'm not so sure why but for some reason I expected he'd be fighting by our side at least for a short period of time but nope.

 

Also, Armor of the Dragon Hunter looks pretty cool but unfortunately my custom armor has better stats that it does. 

 

Spoiler

Mmmmph, Ameridan.  If the game had let me, I would have tapped that so hard.  The fact that he shares Abelas's VA doesn't hurt either

[CapricornSun]

Spoiler

You'll get (or should get) a schematic in order to craft one, no worries.

 

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I got some weapon schematics but I don't think I got an armor schematic for it.  Do I get one later? 

 

Spoiler

Mmmmph, Ameridan.  If the game had let me, I would have tapped that so hard.  The fact that he shares Abelas's VA doesn't hurt either

 

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If the game let me, I'd tap both Ameridan and Abelas. And heck, if he wasn't dead, I'd throw in Felassan as well. (Elven orgy, yaaay!)

Them sexy ancient elves... *shakes fist at Bioware*

 

 

EDIT: Solas, if you come back you could join in the fun as well. Dammit.

[Cee]

 I'd be in real trouble, too.     Hopefully I'd be dazzled by one particular elf and I would be blind to the rest, but... we know that's impossible. 

 

Abelas, etc does nothing for me. Sera, however, yes. But I'm still not 'into' elves. Sera isn't culturally 'elfy', but I like her. One of my friends is very much into elves always and forever.

[NightSymphony]

I have always loved elves. Anytime I can be in an elf in a video game, I jump on it. I always role play elves. My ex-husband used to call me a tree hugging hippie. :-P 

 

 

Just saw this posted..  I thought Merrill's Eluvian could only be seen with flycam..I guess not..

http://nurrich.devia...r-egg-538749578

[Illyria]

Abelas, etc does nothing for me. Sera, however, yes. But I'm still not 'into' elves. Sera isn't culturally 'elfy', but I like her. One of my friends is very much into elves always and forever.

 

I'm with you on the Abelas thing.  I would barely have noticed he was in the game if it wasn't for his huge fan presence.

 

And Seraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Junebug]

It's not insulting at all.  My Lavellan keep hre vallaslin because what matters is the meaning they have to her culture now (and I love that Weekes gave Lavellan a chance to say this to Solas).  She thinks that other Dalish should know the true history of the markings, but also celebrate their reclaimed meaning.

I strongly disagree about it not being insulting, mostly because I can relate irl to Lavellan and I have family who have reacted like Abelas to the things I've said and done.

 

On-topic real life story incoming: I'm Vietnamese but some of my family have lived all around North America (as well as Europe/Australia/etc but idk anything about them) for about ~40 years. We also suffer from diaspora—losing more and more of our own culture as English, American-wear, etc is a necessity to assimilate. But we try to cling onto what we know. When we visit Vietnam and they see us wear our cultural trinkets and accessories outside of what they'd mean back in America ("this is my culture and I am celebrating it by showing it to you"), my relatives get confused and upset because that's not what they mean in Vietnam. So I respected them. Of course, that put me in a tough position because now I know the true meaning whenever I decide to wear it in the US. I have to think about what it means and why I'd wear it that day so as to not disrespect the original meaning.

 

So yeah. Again, neither Lavellan or Abelas are wrong for thinking the way they do. The Dalish suffer from diaspora as well, broken language and all. Abelas doesn't understand that because he doesn't live wherever the Dalish are—he was always in the original homelands and never left—he doesn't know what diaspora is. Slave markings aren't the same as trinkets because accessories can be easily taken off, but I hope that puts it into perspective. I've been in her position—I don't want to disrespect my ancestors and my heritage because there's still living and breathing examples of it. But at the same time, it doesn't mean the same thing where I am...*sigh* idk. I understand why Abelas + my relatives would distance themselves. You can see why I personally have a tough time with "reclaim the vallaslin" Lavellan haha.

[Cee]

I'm with you on the Abelas thing.  I would barely have noticed he was in the game if it wasn't for his huge fan presence.

 

And Seraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I do like what the fan community has done with minor characters like Abelas. There is more there in terms of history and how he got there which is why headcanons are a good thing. But having the opportunity to spend actual time with characters makes a big difference.

[NightSymphony]

Wow..somehow Vivienne is my friend in this play through.  How did that happen?

[Sifr]

Hey. Err... I don't know if I should spoiler tag this, since it's from the last armor/stuff DLC pack, I don't even know if it was already posted, but GUYS. 

From Ashe's tumblr

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http://ladyinsanity....eo-and-this-was

...

 

"Be veerwy, veerwy quiet... we're hunting pwedators..."

 

(Anyone else think that armour makes Solas look like Elmer Fudd meets Arnold?)

 

[CapricornSun]

"Be veerwy, veerwy quiet... we're hunting pwedators..."

(Anyone else think that armour makes Solas look like Elmer Fudd meets Arnold?)

...



Thanks for ruining my fantasy. =___=;

[RynJ]

I'm with you on the Abelas thing.  I would barely have noticed he was in the game if it wasn't for his huge fan presence.

 

And Seraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

I think Abelas as a character has a lot of potential and I hope we see him again, but honestly Lavellan and Abelas as a couple has become my, for lack of a better term, NOTP. For various reasons. Too much bitter rebound stuff with him when it comes to Solas romancers.

 

I wouldn't mind him being a companion/LI in a future game! I actually kind of hope for it.  I think he's a bit too similar to Solas, though, from what we've seen of him (granted, we haven't seen much). A less interesting version of Solas, but to be fair it's hard to top the Dread Wolf.

 

Ameridan, though. Woof. Telana was a lucky girl!  I also was a fan of his belief system. I like that he reconciled both Dalish beliefs and Andrastian religion.

 

Also, that DLC pack Solas makes me laugh because it looks like the default human male body on him, which makes Solas' head look too small.

[S.W.]

SO I went through the temple of Mythal with my all-mage party (Lavellan's a rift mage) and it was ****** awesome. Everyone was on fire and/or frozen and  there was a never-ending supply of barriers, literally the most fun I've had in combat for ages. Vivienne called Morrigan a cockroach, it was glorious. Dorian was really sweet and humbled by it all (arguably he's one of the best human companions to take in, in terms of respecting the elves).

 

Solas, was of course, Solas - I still really like the interaction between him and Morrigan: they near identical similar roles in their narratives (both are mysterious mages of somewhat dubious origin with a surprisingly large amount of ancient arcane knowledge), but I couldn't think of two people so different in approach, with Morrigan believes in helping yourself and furthering your own gains, whereas Solas believes strongly in helping others when you can. I mean, could you imagine Solas in DA:O? I think he'd hate Morrigan more than Alistair.

 

Drank from the well this time. I kind of wish there was an ability to slap Morrigan every time she said 'there's no one better equipped to deal with this knowledge than me', psssssh. My PC was pretty pleasant and approachable to Morrigan at first, and usually isn't one to be controlled by her pride or her temper, but I think after the whole ANCIENT ELVES ARE ALIVE thing she wasn't in the most patient of moods.

 

I'm now preparing myself for the MAXIMUM HEARTBREAK that is the final Solas romance scene.

 

I'm with you on the Abelas thing.  I would barely have noticed he was in the game if it wasn't for his huge fan presence.

 

And Seraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

SERAAAAAAAAAAA

 

I had so much trouble not romancing her this playthrough. She's so bloody great. I love her.

 

And agreed on Abelas. I don't think I'm a very elfy person though, to be honest. 

[Uirebhiril]

I think Abelas as a character has a lot of potential and I hope we see him again, but honestly Lavellan and Abelas as a couple has become my, for lack of a better term, NOTP. For various reasons. Too much bitter rebound stuff with him when it comes to Solas romancers.

 

 

This reminds me of that comic that was floating around - Abelas pointing at Lavellan and saying "you're not my people!" To which Lavellan cheerfully flips Abelas the bird. Totally the response my Lavellan had. She's not the rebound sort anyway, so it's just as well.

 

Going to agree with you about Ameridan, though.

[Illyria]

I strongly disagree about it not being insulting, mostly because I can relate irl to Lavellan and I have family who have reacted like Abelas to the things I've said and done.

 

On-topic real life story incoming: I'm Vietnamese but some of my family have lived all around North America (as well as Europe/Australia/etc but idk anything about them) for about ~40 years. We also suffer from diaspora—losing more and more of our own culture as English, American-wear, etc is a necessity to assimilate. But we try to cling onto what we know. When we visit Vietnam and they see us wear our cultural trinkets and accessories outside of what they'd mean back in America ("this is my culture and I am celebrating it by showing it to you"), my relatives get confused and upset because that's not what they mean in Vietnam. So I respected them. Of course, that put me in a tough position because now I know the true meaning whenever I decide to wear it in the US. I have to think about what it means and why I'd wear it that day so as to not disrespect the original meaning.

 

So yeah. Again, neither Lavellan or Abelas are wrong for thinking the way they do. The Dalish suffer from diaspora as well, broken language and all. Abelas doesn't understand that because he doesn't live wherever the Dalish are—he was always in the original homelands and never left—he doesn't know what diaspora is. Slave markings aren't the same as trinkets because accessories can be easily taken off, but I hope that puts it into perspective. I've been in her position—I don't want to disrespect my ancestors and my heritage because there's still living and breathing examples of it. But at the same time, it doesn't mean the same thing where I am...*sigh* idk. I understand why Abelas + my relatives would distance themselves. You can see why I personally have a tough time with "reclaim the vallaslin" Lavellan haha.

 

I can see where you're coming from now.  We see the choice differently because of our own experiences (and that's what makes RPGs and talking about RPGs so much fun!)

 

SERAAAAAAAAAAA

 

I had so much trouble not romancing her this playthrough. She's so bloody great. I love her.

 

And agreed on Abelas. I don't think I'm a very elfy person though, to be honest. 

 

I have an Adaar romance going with her at the moment.  She's more fun than Mr Serious Elfy.

 

So far two of my canon LIs have been elves, and one is an elf blooded human.  And two out of three of my heroes have been elves.  I'm pretty elfy.

 

I think Abelas as a character has a lot of potential and I hope we see him again, but honestly Lavellan and Abelas as a couple has become my, for lack of a better term, NOTP. For various reasons. Too much bitter rebound stuff with him when it comes to Solas romancers.

 

I wouldn't mind him being a companion/LI in a future game! I actually kind of hope for it.  I think he's a bit too similar to Solas, though, from what we've seen of him (granted, we haven't seen much). A less interesting version of Solas, but to be fair it's hard to top the Dread Wolf.

 

Ameridan, though. Woof. Telana was a lucky girl!  I also was a fan of his belief system. I like that he reconciled both Dalish beliefs and Andrastian religion.

 

Also, that DLC pack Solas makes me laugh because it looks like the default human male body on him, which makes Solas' head look too small.

 

Yeah, the whole rebound thing... Not my cup of tea at all.

 

I'd rather have a happy, healthy and stable relationship for once.  I guess that's why I was so drawn to femShep/Liara.  I had three games to develop their romance and that felt so much more natural compared to the 'world is ending.  We'll bang, okay?' from Dragon Age.

[Cee]

 Yeah, the whole rebound thing... Not my cup of tea at all.

 

I'd rather have a happy, healthy and stable relationship for once.  I guess that's why I was so drawn to femShep/Liara.  I had three games to develop their romance and that felt so much more natural compared to the 'world is ending.  We'll bang, okay?' from Dragon Age.

Same here. I have seen a few Lavellan headcanons that are like...going after every rebound I can find, and I'm like....well mine is doing her duty amid her confusion and pain, but have fun.

 

And I love the femShep/Liara relationship so very much. Partly for that reason. I played the series once all the games were out, but I didn't know that Liara was the only person you could romance across all three games (technically), so I didn't go in with that in mind. As I always do, I'm just drawn to a person and she made a lot of sense for how I pictured my Shepard to be as well, and the arc I had her progressing on, so it all worked so well.

[Gwyvian]

It's good to know there are others with these strange feelings towards elves as well.

 

I have even made it my plan to just start dressing like an elf everywhere I go. I have no reason not to....and recently it dawned on my that elves are generally portrayed wearing awesome clothing. So yeah.... elven wardrobe is on my to do list.

 

I'm actually kind of surprised that a lot of people don't feel that way... I've been feeling depressingly mainstream for having an obsession with elves, but more and more I'm getting the sense that it's not necessarily the default fandom for everyone (which is fine by me). I love other races too, I like trying them out and generally absorbing their culture and everything, but elves... well I've tried really hard not to focus on them exclusively, but they just happen to represent everything I love about fantasy, so it's pretty much hopeless. With every new fantasy I always tell myself that I'm going to keep an open mind and focus on different races, or at least all of them equally, and then something like DAI happens and I have a Lavellan made as fast as I an blink and only later on do I stop and think about how I didn't even give other races a chance. Later, sure, I have two Qunaris, several humans and most recently a dwarf (*cough* and another elf and a replay of my first Lavellan *cough*), buuut yeah. I'm hopeless that way.

 

Oh, yes. I'm totally into dressing elven, they get the best of fantasy Renaissance, where beauty is actually an important factor in clothing, as much as efficiency is. 

 

Abelas, etc does nothing for me. Sera, however, yes. But I'm still not 'into' elves. Sera isn't culturally 'elfy', but I like her. One of my friends is very much into elves always and forever.

 

Well, I have a thing about ancient cultures/knowledge and especially the tragedy of such things being lost, so Abelas set off warning bells in my head the moment I saw him and realized who and what he was - true, just looking at him helped, but that wasn't really the reason I became enthralled, it's more a combination of these facets. There has to be an added dynamic for such a character to work, though as I said above, I have a fan-bias towards elves and I tend to obsess over them no matter what, it's just the ones with that extra something that grip me to the point of distraction. Though, I have to say, DAII elves didn't quite manage to do that for me, except for the unique ones (and I'm not one of those who are OK with Zevran's remake). In counter-point, I'm pretty sure I'd be obsessed with Iorveth   from the Witcher series even if he was just a happy no-name in some remote village with no knowledge of the world or anything else, but... he's a special case.   I think I'm just obsessed with elves, period, I'm just rationalizing now.   

 

I like Sera a lot, at least in some playthroughs (emphatically not when I play as Lavellan), but I admit I found it off-putting that she's so hostile towards elven history. I like her style and how she looks and acts, but her attitude was a major minus point in my books. From a general perspective I liked the construction of her character, but personally the attraction was basically killed just for that alone during my first PT (though she's my LI for one of my Qunaris and I'm really liking it, so I can say that I really like the fact that there is more to her character than being anti-elf - I'm still not a fan of her knee-jerk reaction to everything "elfy" regardless). In short, there certainly are qualities in a person that will do that, kill the attraction I mean, and that's true for most elves, too, though I haven't met many that forced me to weigh whether I still like a given character because they're elves or whether I will stop liking them because they are just horrible people. My boundaries there extend considerably further when it comes to elves anyway. Actually, I think that Sera might just be the first elf who really put me on the spot about this, which from an objective perspective is an awesome quality for a character to have - it's just that on a taste level it barely tallies. In fact, comparing this to Abelas and his incredibly dismissive and hostile reaction to Lavellan, that at least was in keeping with the incredible weight of the moment and of all that was lost, he was the avatar of the ancient elves with all of its arrogance and hostility, so I was just crushed and angered but still veeeery much obsessed with Abelas despite all this - he still embraced the qualities that truly get to me about elves, whereas Sera actively denies everything that sets her apart. I could find that charming, of course, if it wasn't presented as it was and if I had at least a modicum of influence over her dogmatic dislike of "elfiness."

 

Alright, enough philosophy about why I find elves attractive, it's going to grow into a wall of text before I realize. 

[RynJ]

Same here. I have seen a few Lavellan headcanons that are like...going after every rebound I can find, and I'm like....well mine is doing her duty amid her confusion and pain, but have fun.

 

And I love the femShep/Liara relationship so very much. Partly for that reason. I played the series once all the games were out, but I didn't know that Liara was the only person you could romance across all three games (technically), so I didn't go in with that in mind. As I always do, I'm just drawn to a person and she made a lot of sense for how I pictured my Shepard to be as well, and the arc I had her progressing on, so it all worked so well.

 

Totally agree. I'm also not really angry on my Lavellan's behalf after the Solas romance because I care about Solas more than her and tend to sympathize with him more. Though I understand why some would be angry, since it really wasn't a good situation. But it means I have no interest in a rebound romance.  Not that Lavellan should always be stuck pining for Solas but it's also not like she doesn't have anything else going on to worry about romancing someone else. Basically exactly what you said!

 

As for Liara, I think her romance looks sweet but the fact that I constantly felt like the narrative was shoving me towards her and shoving her at me kept me from making a playthrough for her. I like her as a character and my Shepard's friend, though!

[Illyria]

Totally agree. I'm also not really angry on my Lavellan's behalf after the Solas romance because I care about Solas more than her and tend to sympathize with him more. Though I understand why some would be angry, since it really wasn't a good situation. But it means I have no interest in a rebound romance.  Not that Lavellan should always be stuck pining for Solas but it's also not like she doesn't have anything else going on to worry about romancing someone else. Basically exactly what you said!

 

As for Liara, I think her romance looks sweet but the fact that I constantly felt like the narrative was shoving me towards her and shoving her at me kept me from making a playthrough for her. I like her as a character and my Shepard's friend, though!

 

Usually I really dislike it when a game tries to shove a romance at me (what's that, FFX?  You want Tidus to be interested in Yuna?  Nope.  He's spending more time with Lulu now) but f!Shep/Liara really works.  It helps that Liara is really, really adorable.

[Cee]

I had an ex break up with me suddenly and refuse to explain why or what happened, so
I understand the confusion, pain, sadness, etc.

 

Funny enough, this guy is now one of my best, dearest friends. But it took time. We were young teens discovering first love, so this is nothing like Solas, but the confusion, the lack of answers, the person who won't tell you anything...

 

I have heard people say that about Liara but never felt that way at all, personally. I love her character. We have a lot in common.

 

edit: I've said it before, but in BioWare terms, I'm probably closest to Liara + Josephine in real life.

[S.W.]

I used to be into elfy stuff a lot as fantasy RPGs go - immortality, immaculate beauty, incredible magic, what's not to like? But I think I developed a love for other races partially because I learned to love developing flaws in my characters, developing complexity and the like, and push them in directions I'd never think of choosing myself, rather than simply playing an altered version of myself. Different races give you a chance to look at different aspects of a character and examine how culture shapes through - and so I drifted a bit from elves for a while. My first DA:I playthrough was actually going to be an Adaar mage (GIANT HORNED MAGIC WOMEN YES), until someone told me elves were more plot relevant.

 

I really like Dragon Age's take on elves - it's a real change of pace from most standard fantasy, and I think it makes playing them much more engaging and exciting. And I love Lavellan - so no regrets there.

 

Anyway, my heart just got broken for a second time.

 

Spoiler

 

I always forget how many freckles she has.

 

It's been a while since I played through this scene and I forget just how good it is - the voice acting, the character movements, and just the writing is lovely. "In another world..." goddamit Solas, you can't say that to me without me crying.

 

Anyway, now that I've finally replayed this scene, I can play Jaws of Hakkon.

[EnaShepard]

Aww, that sounds wonderful.  Out of curiousity, what did he smell like? 

 

I think I'm doomed to never have dreams of Solas. *sigh*

 
Sadly, as it is often in dreams, I knew he smelled really good BUT couldn't  identify /discern particular scents/flavors

[Alyka]

 
Sadly, as it is often in dreams, I knew he smelled really good BUT couldn't  identify /discern particular scents/flavors

It's funny that you mention this.

I make perfume in my spare time as a hobby. I was recently thinking of how Solas might smell. (I bet he smells sooooo good! )

I'm thinking something like; airy musk, a hint of lavender, soft cotton, some papyrus/dusty tome, perhaps a bit of patchouli for a slightly feral edge. rawr!

[RynJ]

It's funny that you mention this.

I make perfume in my spare time as a hobby. I was recently thinking of how Solas might smell. (I bet he smells sooooo good! )

I'm thinking something like; airy musk, a hint of lavender, soft cotton, some papyrus/dusty tome, perhaps a bit of patchouli for a slightly feral edge. rawr!

 

I'm digging it, Alyka! And now I'm kind of curious about your hobby. Time to look up perfume making!