Yes, so I usually switch to Solas or Dorian to grab it.
That veilfire torch thing is just so true.
Thanks for the help, Solas.
Yeah this happened to me so much that as my mage, I just light the damn veil fire myself, now instead of Solas standing there dumbfounded I get Cass or Bull just standing there and not attacking anything while Solas and I get hammered.
Yeah this happened to me so much that as my mage, I just light the damn veil fire myself, now instead of Solas standing there dumbfounded I get Cass or Bull just standing there and not attacking anything while Solas and I get hammered.
Sounds like a winning situation. >_>
I know. But at least now we know it's not canon.
Yeah this happened to me so much that as my mage, I just light the damn veil fire myself, now instead of Solas standing there dumbfounded I get Cass or Bull just standing there and not attacking anything while Solas and I get hammered.
The problem with that sometimes is I couldn't let go of the torch and thus interact with anything and sometimes my daggers didn't work.
I swear if Bioware lead writer Patrick Weekes intend to use Solas as the new villain i will throw myself out of the window,Solas is not a Villain he is the Hero of the people, my favourite of the franchise
(i did not romance him).
So keep reading these section dedicated to Solas, Weekes,great characters do not deserve a sad ending,next Da4 I will gladly appreciate the possibility to side with Solas and his cause.
Personally, I think she is wiser than him by the end of this game. That tower card tells me so.
There's a certain desperation in him by the end of the game, certainly. With the interpretations of The Tower, the territory he might be heading into is potentially bleak and dangerous as a result. To me, it raises questions about why he felt he had to act so quickly once the orb had been destroyed.
From this site:
Has a big change of plans occurred? Are you getting a Tarot reading because some unexpected event has completely changed your life? Has your world turned upside down? Was a steady part of your life recently destabilized in dramatic fashion? Is change happening too quickly for you to hold on to something?
sounds applicable.
I gotta say...I really don't like that he calls her dalen at all. It comes across condescending. I think they get well past that after their first few interactions. I don't think he sees her as a child. Personally, I think she is wiser than him by the end of this game. That tower card tells me so.
He only calls Lavellan (both male and female, not connected to the romance) 'da'len' once, in response to them calling him 'ha'hren'. It was a reponse to Lavellan addressing him in a Dalish fashion. From his hesitation I doubt he would've said it if it weren't for Lavellan's use of ha'hren.
There's a certain desperation in him by the end of the game, certainly. With the interpretations of The Tower, the territory he might be heading into is potentially bleak and dangerous as a result. To me, it raises questions about why he felt he had to act so quickly once the orb had been destroyed.
From this site:
sounds applicable.
What is the romanced card? Cause I still have that at the end of a play through. I'm not saying that the Tower interpretation wouldn't still apply for what is going on with Solas, I just wonder what the romanced card implies with it.
What is the romanced card? Cause I still have that at the end of a play through. I'm not saying that the Tower interpretation wouldn't still apply for what is going on with Solas, I just wonder what the romanced card implies with it.
The Hierophant.
The Hierophant.
Spoiler
Thank you, thank you.
Well, I went and read up on what that card means and I'm at a loss. as to how it could affect what the Tower implies.
Maybe the fact it's there just means we get some sort of something in a DLC. That's all I hope.
He only calls Lavellan (both male and female, not connected to the romance) 'da'len' once, in response to them calling him 'ha'hren'. It was a reponse to Lavellan addressing him in a Dalish fashion. From his hesitation I doubt he would've said it if it weren't for lavallen's use of ha'hren.
Yes I know Solas only said it once, apologies for not giving context on my response. I was responding to the idea that writers continue to use it in FanFic as a pet name. I'm not a fan because I felt that was a one off moment where Lavallen was trying to defuse the situation because he was angry. The Inquisitor demonstrated great intuition and empathy in this exchange because Solas opens up and apologizes. I think he realized he was bringing some baggage into this first conversation and re-adjusts his tone.
I just want to add here that I find almost all their exchanges to be pretty classy. Even when they talk dirty they have a sort of elegance about it. It's consistent with this first exchange we're referencing because it illustrates how Lavellan can hold her own in a verbal sparring match. First round goes to Lavellan.
Yes I know Solas only said it once. I was responding to the idea that writers continue to use it in FanFic as a pet name. I'm not a fan because I felt that was a one off moment where Levallan was trying to defuse the situation because he was angry. The Inquisitor demonstrated great intuition and empathy in this exchange because Solas opens up and apologizes. I think he realized he's bringing some baggage into this first conversation and read adjusts his tone.
I just want to add here that I find almost all their exchanges to be pretty classy. Even when they talk dirty they have a sort of elegance about it. It's consistent with this first exchange we're referencing because it illustrates how Levallan can hold her own in a verbal sparring match.
Ir abelas. I misunderstood.
I completely agree with your take on their converstations. According to Weekes there are some points where the Inquitior gains approval from Solas because they started using imabic penameter in their speech.
What is the romanced card? Cause I still have that at the end of a play through. I'm not saying that the Tower interpretation wouldn't still apply for what is going on with Solas, I just wonder what the romanced card implies with it.
I romanced Solas and did not get the Tower. Some people who romanced him did get the Tower. I think it's a bug. Likely we all should have the Tower. He's distraught at the end of the game.
Edit: Because I intended to imply distraught not "out of his mind". It's a figure of speech I use with friends to = upset.
Sounds like a winning situation. >_>
Lol, I know right. I get so frustrated with how much babysitting I have to do during combat sometimes. Once I figured out how to run tactics in Origin and DA:2 I never had to worry about someone in my group standing around doing nothing. It's really the only thing I dislike about the game.
The problem with that sometimes is I couldn't let go of the torch and thus interact with anything and sometimes my daggers didn't work.
I have never experienced that problem with my mage thankfully.
Okay, so I have been loosely following the conversation today since I have had Solas/Lavellan on the brain so much that I had to write something down. This goes out to whoever wrote something about their artist husband or boyfriend, water, paint brushes, and playing DA:I. I don't know if it was here or on tumblr, but I swear I saw it somewhere:
http://niamaduir.tum...808890/painting
Yes, there will be a part two from Lavellan's perspective if you are wondering.
Thank you, thank you.
Well, I went and read up on what that card means and I'm at a loss. as to how it could affect what the Tower implies.
Maybe the fact it's there just means we get some sort of something in a DLC. That's all I hope.
You are quite welcome.
I'm sure someone has pointed out some similarities between the following (but I did it anyway lol).
I have finished Jaws of Haakon.
Still going through all the Codex entries.
Bring out your theories! Wear tin hats with pride!
Ahaha, I did the same over the weekend. Wish I'd done it on a post-Solas game file though, amusing as his reaction to Professor Kemric's attempts to list the elven gods (the prof forgets Fen'Harel, lol). Would have been a good relationship recovery vibe. I try and complete most of the game before What Pride Has Wrought because I imagine the last three quests taking place in quick succession.
Whilst we're still on the tarot-card discussion, is there any good write-up by someone who already knows what they signify for Solas? I imagine Bioware are using tarot as primarily an aesthetic thing, which also plays into thematic discussions about faith and fate, so the cards should be read fairly superficially (would be interested to know how much the artists know about tarot).
I always find the fact that the romance card doesn't change into the post-game card rather intriguing. That may be for more practical reasons (the romance is only completed late in the game after all, so you may not see the romance card for long). However, from the Inquisitor's perspective, out of all the possible origins and choices, post-epilogue, 'The Tower' probably best fits a Lavellan who romanced Solas. From what I've briefly picked up from google, The Tower represents sudden, disruptive, life-altering change - a complete reversal in fortune, most likely. Often this can be incredibly destructive, and often it can involve an uncomfortable lightning-bolt of truth. This card perfectly fits the revelation that Solas is Fen'Harel for a Lavellan who has spent their entire lives wary of them, particularly so in the case of a mage Lavellan who as a First was entrusted with guarding their clan against the Dread Wolf. I don't think a romanced Lavellan would feel any differently on this issue - it'd still be a complete and utter shock to the system, a revelation that will radically alter their relationship with their clan, the Dalish, elves in general, as well as Solas himself. They may indeed 'side with Fen'Harel' and if offered the choice, would follow him over their clan - but 'The Tower' fits, nonetheless.#
There's two possibilities here that I've thought up as for why the card doesn't change. The first being that The Tower represents the fate of the Inquisition more generally - which was always dependent on the mark i.e. a portion of Fen'Harel's power - and how Solas, in general, is skeptical about the prospects of organisations in the long term - I'm thinking a conversation he has with Cass, where he's unsurprised by the corruption of The Seekers - may mean he'll possibly attempt to break the Inquisition later on given that, post-breach, its organisational aims will inevitably change and that may go in a direction Solas disagrees with.
I think it's also quite possible, however, that the card is for Solas, not the Inquisitor. i.e. it is Solas who has had the sudden change in fortune (for instance, the destruction of his orb), and it is Solas whose future plans have been completely disrupted (and may even change long-term) because of this event. I think this may also imply that a quizzy's choice to romance him may potentially affect major choices down the line in DLC/DA4. If Solas is inspired, not defeated, after the events that led to the breach's creation and the destruction of his orb, then his role may be completely different in the future (I mean, unlikely because of the amount of resources invested for an alternate route for a gated romance in the previous game would be astoundingly high, and that because Fen'Harel's role in the game has probably been planned way in advance of any romance).
I got Spoils of the Avvar. Where do I find the armours? I have a mighty need for Solas to wear them.
Weekes has put the 'does Solas use da'len as a pet name for a romanced Lavellan?' question to bed.
He doesn't.
Do you have screens/links to the conversation, out of curiosity? Just for the purpose of prolonging the disproportionate comfort this knowledge gives me. No judgement at all directed at anyone who's fond of that dynamic with Solavellan or in general, but personally, it makes me happy as a clam to know that it isn't canon behaviour for Solas' character. 
Edit: What the--ToP? I have nothing to offer. Still. u_u Capricorn et al. have been too on point with finding amazing fan art for us all--I can't find anything new! So here's an animated screen instead:
I got Spoils of the Avvar. Where do I find the armours? I have a mighty need for Solas to wear them.
You get one set of premade blue armors and then you get schematics. When you make them, the schematics are located under the Medium armor listing I believe. Also, you get them from the Special Deliveries chest.
Solas looks damn good in that armor.
I romanced and did not get the Tower. Some people who romanced him did get the Tower. I think it's a bug. Likely we all should have the Tower. He's out of his mind at the end of the game.
Actually I think it's the people who romanced him who got the Tower that's the bug. On all of my Solas-romance playthroughs (and there are quite a few) I've always retained the Heirophant after end game.
Remember you only get the romance card after the Temple of Mythal scene. If everyone romanced or not were supposed to get the Tower then I fail to see the need for a card change at all for so short a time between the Temple and the end game.
Edit to add: I also don't believe he's out of his mind at the end of the game. We may not agree with what he's going to do but I don't think he's insane.
Actually I think it's the people who romanced him who got the Tower that's the bug. On all of my Solas-romance playthroughs (and there are quite a few) I've always retained the Heirophant after end game.
Remember you only get the romance card after the Temple of Mythal scene. If everyone romanced or not were supposed to get the Tower then I fail to see the need for a card change at all for so short a time between the Temple and the end game.
Edit to add: I also don't believe he's out of his mind at the end of the game. We may not agree with what he's going to do but I don't think he's insane.
I agree. I don't see Solas as out of his mind at all; he's just more driven and focused. And sad 
I think it makes sense for those who romance him to not get the Tower at all because the romance really affects him... he shows himself more... I don't think he changes so much as he realizes what could be and that changes everything for him...
I'd be severely disappointed in the writing staff if they pulled that on Solas. Sudden insanity and mind control are literally the worst when it comes to pushing characters into doing villainous things they'd usually not do. Especially after building up such a nuanced and intruiging character, it'd be such a waste to knock him down into a cookie cutter villain.
In general, it's why I don't like villains who are 'mad'. Most people don't know what that word entails.
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