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Do you have screens/links to the conversation, out of curiosity? Just for the purpose of prolonging the disproportionate comfort this knowledge gives me. No judgement at all directed at anyone who's fond of that dynamic with Solavellan or in general, but personally, it makes me happy as a clam to know that it isn't canon behaviour for Solas' character.  :wub:

 

 

 

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Do you have screens/links to the conversation, out of curiosity? Just for the purpose of prolonging the disproportionate comfort this knowledge gives me. No judgement at all directed at anyone who's fond of that dynamic with Solavellan or in general, but personally, it makes me happy as a clam to know that it isn't canon behaviour for Solas' character.  :wub:

 

Edit: What the--ToP? I have nothing to offer. Still. u_u Capricorn et al. have been too on point with finding amazing fan art for us all--I can't find anything new! So here's an animated screen instead:

 

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For you, vhenan:

 

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(you are all my vhenans.  10/10.  Would dump all of you in a fire swamp).

 

EDIT: ninja'd.  But it's from Renmiri's tumblr anyway so it's only fair.


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I'd be severely disappointed in the writing staff if they pulled that on Solas. Sudden insanity and mind control are literally the worst when it comes to pushing characters into doing villainous things they'd usually not do. Especially after building up such a nuanced and intruiging character, it'd be such a waste to knock him down into a cookie cutter villain.

 

In general, it's why I don't like villains who are 'mad'. Most people don't know what that word entails.

 

It'd be way too much of an Anders move. I don't have as much of a problem with Anders' story as many people seem to but I tend to not appreciate it when enormous, character-altering things happen off screen. And that one involved a sudden sort of mind alteration too. It makes it seem so abrupt and not well thought out. Solas is impulsive sometimes and too grandiose (or so he says and many assume. We don't know the whole story at all, really) in his attempts at change, but he's not an idiot and he's been around too long and gone through too much to play the "insanity" card with him or make him suddenly evil with no thought  or care at all behind his plans. It would look incredibly cheap. 


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It'd be way too much of an Anders move. I don't have as much of a problem with Anders' story as many people seem to but I tend to not appreciate it when enormous, character-altering things happen off screen. And that one involved a sudden sort of mind alteration too. It makes it seem so abrupt and not well thought out. Solas is impulsive sometimes and too grandiose (or so he says and many assume. We don't know the whole story at all, really) in his attempts at change, but he's not an idiot and he's been around too long and gone through too much to play the "insanity" card with him or make him suddenly evil with no thought  or care at all behind his plans. It would look incredibly cheap. 

I don't think Solas has lost his mind, but if he is acting on a god-level, where his actions have far-reaching ramifications and effects for all the regular mortals of Thedas, what he does may seem quite mad from the bottom looking up. Whether it's releasing some ancient angry gods, tearing down the Veil, or trying to turn back time, anything he does in that respect, on that level, has the potential to make Anders' crimes seem like a freaking firecracker in a trashcan.


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Where has this turn back time thing suddenly come from? I've only seen this recently. In Redcliffe, the time magic only works because of the Breach and the Veil ans thus the specific frame available is limited. It seems to me that the team is trying to make this whole time thing self-contained and limited.

 

Also as far as the Veil is concerned, if Solas' plan involves removing it, he definitely does not support doing something horribly stressful to spirits like the Breach. So I would like to think any Veil plan would have to be more ....gentle?

 

Also, given The Masked Empire and Felassan's mysterious behind the scenes master and what Solas says about the gods in the temple, I don't necessarily think he's going to just go unlock the door and say "Hey guys, let's be friends again!"

 

Also, the Forgotten Ones will likely come into play, given this http://dragonage.wik...ldauran's_Claimand Fen'Harel's part in between both groups.

 

So, his plans, they are murky, and I trust Weekes in this matter in keeping him a deep, layered character. Especially since we've just had the opportunity to get to see him as someone regretful, hurt, caring, frustrated, weary, just complex...and maybe our PC is even in love with him.

 

I don't see Solas going this route at all.

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We also can't forget Mythal's promised reckoning and vengeance. If Morrigan is handling all of this, it could add some additional conflict. Or background string pulling.

 

But, you know, imagine when Solas finds out Morrigan, given his reaction to her and how they bickered, is (likely) now Mythal. :lol:


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Where has this turn back time thing suddenly come from? I've only seen this recently. In Redcliffe, the time magic only works because of the Breach and the Veil ans thus the specific frame available is limited. It seems to me that the team is trying to make this whole time thing self-contained and limited.

 

Also as far as the Veil is concerned, if Solas' plan involves removing it, he definitely does not support doing something horribly stressful to spirits like the Breach. So I would like to think any Veil plan would have to be more ....gentle?

 

Also, given The Masked Empire and Felassan's mysterious behind the scenes master and what Solas says about the gods in the temple, I don't necessarily think he's going to just go unlock the door and say "Hey guys, let's be friends again!"

 

Also, the Forgotten Ones will likely come into play, given this http://dragonage.wik...ldauran's_Claimand Fen'Harel's part in between both groups.

 

So, his plans, they are murky, and I trust Weekes in this matter in keeping him a deep, layered character. Especially since we've just had the opportunity to get to see him as someone regretful, hurt, caring, frustrated, weary, just complex...and maybe our PC is even in love with him.

 

I don't see Solas going this route at all.

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Yeah for all he seems to somewhat regret what he did to the other Elven gods, he never talks like they were anything but corrupt when he discusses them. If he's releasing the Pantheon, it'd be with the intention to help/fix them. I can't imagine him just letting them go, since he knows that having them around wasn't so great in the past. And I can't see Solas as the type to just completely put everything back like it was because things didn't work out.

 

Don't know about the time thing either. The Veil seems plausible but like you said, he wouldn't do anything that just ripped the Veil open and harmed the Spirits. He'd do it a different way. And apparently people and spirits once co-existed so there's no guarantee that it'd be something incredibly disastrous. Though it still might be in a modern Thedas.



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Oh, it could definitely freak people out. He knows that though, as clear from his discussions in Haven. He knows what most people in Thedas generally think about things like spirits and blood magic. They fear them and think them inherently dangerous. Whereas his opinion is more neutral and all about intent.

 

This takes me back to the discussion we were having about spirit Cole and human Cole and why some of us felt a certain way about our decision there, as well as how others might see the situation. Given how most seem to be choosing to side with Varric, it might just reflect that a little.



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Insane? Nah. More like rebellious change. WHICH isn't always brought about with ribbons and bows. Things gun get ugly.

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The reckoning could fall to Morrigan if she is indeed the new vessel for Mythal, so we can't discount her plans being separate.

 

We must also keep in mind Solas' reaction to the Grey Wardens and their work regarding the Old Gods and Blight and where red lyrium falls into the picture.

 

We have no indication whatsoever that things are going to be ugly or chaotic or anything. We have power claimed in what seems like desperate measure with something prompting swift action. However, we get nothing beyond that in the epilogue, just him looking up with the new power glow.

 

As long as whatever comes is in character (and yes, Fen'Harel as rebel, as someone who is willing to take/accept extreme measures if thought through is part of who he is, even with his many regrets, the banter he has with Sera still shows there's knowledge of how to topple organizations and control a rebellion in him), it should be something to look forward to.


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You are quite welcome.
I'm sure someone has pointed out some similarities between the following (but I did it anyway lol).

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There were some interesting observations made by another player who noticed that Solas's Hierophant card looks a lot like the Fool card so I’ll build on that. It made me wonder if the developers were playing with Solas’s internal conflict by joining classic Fool imagery with the Hierophant. But I see many Tarot mash-ups so I’ll explain myself.

 

Solas's Hermit card - It looks like a Hierophant Card. A staff, the right hand used in "benediction" signifying a "bridge between earth and heaven", a crown like symbol (starburst on Solas). The Hierophant typically carries the "keys to heaven" at his feet as you can see in the traditional deck. I'm wondering if Solas holds the keys in his hand and the symbol is the flame. The staff is about authority and the supreme status of the Hierophant. Also, the staff signifies a responsibility to the people so it makes sense that Solas has a Halla head on his staff. Solas's robe look like the throne the Hierophant sits on. Solas seems to preside over the stars/heavens and the earth from his cloak-y thone :)

 

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Solas's Hierophant card - It looks like a Fool Card. Hills, a white dog, man walking off/journey, hand holding flower/leaf, sun behind his back. This is interesting because the Hierophant is totally different from the fool. The fool is setting out on a journey and the Hierophant is a spiritual leader who’s all about tradition. Interestinggggg.

 

The Fool normally looks like a beggar and never wears shoes which fits Solas's fashion style exactly :)  The Fool carries a stick with his belonging symbolizing untapped knowledge (we can't see the top of Solas's staff). The white flower in the Fool's hand signifies an absence of "base desires" and freedom. Notice Solas has his hand raised to a leaf instead and consider that we get this after he walks away from Lavallen. Although the leaves are falling so it could also be a nod to his struggle to stay disconnected . We don't see a cliff in Solas's card but he does have the mountain range that represents the spiritual world left behind that the Fool wants to rejoin. The white dog is typically a protective companion who helps push the Fool along when needed and this seems to link to the Dread Wolf. The Fool is normally about a "leap of faith" but Solas is missing the cliffs which is a big part of the Rider Waite symbolism, but he is stepping off the card into something unknown. 

 

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Solas's Tower card - It looks like the Hermit and Tower mixed together. Yea...like some crazy mash-up right? We have a Tower symbol in both cards but it’s a wolf for Solas with 3 eyes like the windows. The typical symbols of falling, fire and lightening are missing from Solas's card. Maybe the red background is intended to feel like it's all burning down? Or perhaps he's "falling" out of the wolf figure? The moon is where the crown should be and the crown symbolizes... well....having a crown literally knocked off of your head and the ivory tower is coming down. The Moon in DAI is Cole so likely this has something to do with the Fade or spirits. The figure in Solas's Tower looks just like the Hermit so we're coming back full circle. The Hermit carries a staff (symbol of authority) that represents the "ability to use his isolation and the knowledge gained as a tool upon his path". The Hermit normally carries a light that illustrates the light of god, “beloved or god” or enlightenment. Solas's Hermit seems to be stepping into an Eluvian and the typical Hermit is on a lonely icy cliff furthering the feeling of isolation and a "commitment to the path he has chosen". 

 

 

 

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So what does all this mean? I DO believe that this is NOT an accident or over sight. The devs mashed up these cards knowingly and it's up to us to interpret. Let me try to wrap this up with an analysis. 

 

At the start Solas is the Hermit and the Hierophant. Hermits have been alone and gathering knowledge that they want to share and that is Solas 100 percent. BTW knowledge from the Hermit isn't for everyone because it's normally deep stuff. However Solas shares it like the Hierophant which comes from a place of great authority and power. He is somehow a bridge (key) between the fade/heavens and the world but we don't know how exactly.

 

Solas becomes the FOoolll and he continues to be the Hierophant. The romance balcony scene is pretty much a man jumping off a cliff into the unknown like the Fool. He tells you again and again that you "change everything" and he sounds utterly lost, confused and almost inspired. However he gets himself back in control but the 3rd act and I would say that turning his back on love was also about denying himself of desire and "emotional entanglements" like the fool holding his white rose. He's keeping his mind on business and not allowing anything to interrupt his plan/journey. The white wolf could be the spirit of the Dread Wolf (if Solas is somehow joined with him and not just him) who is his guide and nudging him along on his path. 

 

At the end Solas is the Hermit and Tower. The orb's destruction somehow knocked everything out of whack and his plans are utterly destroyed! He has to start over. The wolf is terrifying and it looks like it's separating from Solas or consuming him so maybe he lost some of the "god" part of him or if he IS Fen'Harel he's losing god powers. He's also becoming the hermit again here. I'm sure you all recall his last message though Cole where he says he will travel alone forever :( It feels like he's walking into the Eluvian on some lonely infinity loop.

 

Finally, when he says "forever" it makes me think he's in a situation like Quantum Leap. He travels in some way that cannot be comprehended and no one can join him. This is why I wonder if Solas can play with time and outcomes because he asks you to question reality, perception and accept that there are many outcomes in the Fade and that ALL are valid. If you could see multiple endings for something and influence the timeline of history no one would seem "real" and you would feel utterly utterly alone. When he tells Lavellan that it would be “kinder” and he can’t stand the thought of losing her, it’s himself he’s trying to protect. She’s a different outcome to a series of choices on a timeline that is changeable. It's possible he wants to disrupt the timeline we're on in DA and that means erasing outcomes and people. It's killing him. That is why he's so relieved in dialogue where he dislikes the Inquisitor. It's easier to swallow the idea of sacrificing people for the greater good if they aren't really worth it. 

 

I also think him becoming the Hermit again is a huge mistake on his part as it's about isolation and a commitment to his path even after the Tower fell and after his experiences with the Inquisition. Pride is clouding his vision and this isn't the first time I'll wager. He hasn't learned anything from his past mistakes if he continues to go it alone ya know? 

 

I went on way too long with this. I'm brain dumping because I know someone more knowledgeable about DA can likely piece this together better.

 


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Where has this turn back time thing suddenly come from? I've only seen this recently. In Redcliffe, the time magic only works because of the Breach and the Veil ans thus the specific frame available is limited. It seems to me that the team is trying to make this whole time thing self-contained and limited.

 

Also as far as the Veil is concerned, if Solas' plan involves removing it, he definitely does not support doing something horribly stressful to spirits like the Breach. So I would like to think any Veil plan would have to be more ....gentle?

 

Also, given The Masked Empire and Felassan's mysterious behind the scenes master and what Solas says about the gods in the temple, I don't necessarily think he's going to just go unlock the door and say "Hey guys, let's be friends again!"

 

Also, the Forgotten Ones will likely come into play, given this http://dragonage.wik...ldauran's_Claimand Fen'Harel's part in between both groups.

 

So, his plans, they are murky, and I trust Weekes in this matter in keeping him a deep, layered character. Especially since we've just had the opportunity to get to see him as someone regretful, hurt, caring, frustrated, weary, just complex...and maybe our PC is even in love with him.

 

I don't see Solas going this route at all.

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I have seen people theorizing the time thing (which I do not agree with at all, either) on reddit, tumblr and here, so it's not an isolated thing (unless it's one person with a lot of accounts). I meant to list some theories I've seen thrown around, which could all be world-wrecking and seem crazy, not that he will go through with them (if he is actually strong enough to even do so). I don't think he wants to set the Creators or the Forgotten Ones free either - I think it's more likely that an outside agent will free one group or the other on accident. As far as the Veil goes, I think that whether he wants to do it himself or not, it is going to be destroyed - just read the Canticle of Exaltations - the prophecy chapter of the Chant of Light with the signs of the Maker's return -

 

Exaltations 1:9

And I looked up and saw

The seven gates of the Black City shatter, <---possibly the Eluvians the seven Creators are behind???

And darkness cloaked both realms

 

Exaltations 1:11

In dread I looked up once more

And saw the darkness warp and crumble

For it was thin as samite <----the VEIL

A fragile shroud over the Light<-----the VEIL

Which turned it to ash<---OMFG

 

What's crazy to me, is that we have so little idea of just what Solas' real plan is. It is incredibly frustrating trying to pin down where they are going with the character/the plot, especially with so many fans offering seemingly well-reasoned possibilities for future installments. I am impatient, so I keep reading all the headcanons even though I know better, and that they have just as much information as I do. :rolleyes:

 

I don't see Solas becoming a villain, though he could end up an antagonist should his goals oppose the Inquisition's.


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Actually I think it's the people who romanced him who got the Tower that's the bug.  On all of my Solas-romance playthroughs (and there are quite a few) I've always retained the Heirophant after end game.

 

Remember you only get the romance card after the Temple of Mythal scene.  If everyone romanced or not were supposed to get the Tower then I fail to see the need for a card change at all for so short a time between the Temple and the end game.

 

Edit to add:  I also don't believe he's out of his mind at the end of the game.  We may not agree with what he's going to do but I don't think he's insane.

 

 

I really should have said something like "out of his mind upset". I totally agree he isn't crazy and I'm sorry for sending people down that conversation path if I did. It's a form of speech (I use with friends) when I want to communicate "distraught". 

 

However, I do think it makes sense for everyone to get the Tower card. The card changes at the end after the orb's destruction. That seems to be where he becomes very upset and the Tarot cards seems to = state of mind. I don't think he's losing it but I do think he's really shaken. 


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Given his strained relationship with most of the pantheon, which he criticises repeatedly in the Temple of Mythal for their corruption and petty squabbles, I'm personally going to strike out reviving the gods.

 

Changing the nature of magic is possible. The veil, we know, was created - before, Solas indicates, spirits travelled freely in this world as part of it. Solas could be attempting to restore that way of things but given we've spent an entire game fixing the veil, the idea of his lifting it again... seems like it'd be catastrophic, or a disaster waiting to happen, or just counter-intuitive gameplay wise. Like recyling the plot much? Still, I wouldn't totally discount this one and wouldn't be too surprised if it was the plot of the next game.

 

The third most obvious option is related to restoring the position of the elven people. Given that Solas is frustratingly vague (and sometimes contradicts himself) over who 'his people' are - he claims not to hold any allegiances to elves now but in individual circumstance feels compelled to help when he can during the game nevertheless - even before we discuss what an elven restoration would entail, and how it would achieved (if a popular rebellion is the answer then wandering off into the fade is no solution). Given some of the regret and caution he gives if your Inquisitor wishes to change the world for the good, I'd wager he's turned his back on collective organising and is searching for something arcane.

 

So, that leaves option four... none of the above :s

 

I mean, my pet wacky theory is that the blight pre-dates Tevinter and instead originates with the elves, and that Solas wishes to fix that mess. Red lyrium, we know, is blighted, and the primeval thaig, where you first find the red lyrium in DA2, is so old that there's no statues of the ancestors - and quite possibly pre-dates Tevinter. It's also weird that the Grey Wardens seem to know nothing about it and haven't found it regularly despite traversing areas full of blight and darkpawn all the time (unless it's cover-up is a Warden secret of some kind we'll uncover). Corypheus also gives hints - he enters the black city and repeatedly states that he finds the throne empty, potentially implying that the black city was already in that state before Corypheus arrived. DA started with the blight and will probably end with it.

 

That's a long shot though. It could just be anything vaguelly magical.


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There were some interesting observations made by another player who noticed that Solas's Hierophant card looks a lot like the Fool card so I’ll build on that. It made me wonder if the developers were playing with Solas’s internal conflict by joining classic Fool imagery with the Hierophant. But I see many Tarot mash-ups so I’ll explain myself.

 

Solas's Hermit card - It looks like a Hierophant Card. A staff, the right hand used in "benediction" signifying a "bridge between earth and heaven", a crown like symbol (starburst on Solas). The Hierophant typically carries the "keys to heaven" at his feet as you can see in the traditional deck. I'm wondering if Solas holds the keys in his hand and the symbol is the flame. The staff is about authority and the supreme status of the Hierophant. Also, the staff signifies a responsibility to the people so it makes sense that Solas has a Halla head on his staff. Solas's robe look like the throne the Hierophant sits on. Solas seems to preside over the stars/heavens and the earth from his cloak-y thone :)

 

heierophantimage.jpgtumblr_inline_nciryn9Cj61qzf2ga.png

 

 

Solas's Hierophant card - It looks like a Fool Card. Hills, a white dog, man walking off/journey, hand holding flower/leaf, sun behind his back. This is interesting because the Hierophant is totally different from the fool. The fool is setting out on a journey and the Hierophant is a spiritual leader who’s all about tradition. Interestinggggg.

 

The Fool normally looks like a beggar and never wears shoes which fits Solas's fashion style exactly :)  The Fool carries a stick with his belonging symbolizing untapped knowledge (we can't see the top of Solas's staff). The white flower in the Fool's hand signifies an absence of "base desires" and freedom. Notice Solas has his hand raised to a leaf instead and consider that we get this after he walks away from Lavallen. Although the leaves are falling so it could also be a nod to his struggle to stay disconnected . We don't see a cliff in Solas's card but he does have the mountain range that represents the spiritual world left behind that the Fool wants to rejoin. The white dog is typically a protective companion who helps push the Fool along when needed and this seems to link to the Dread Wolf. The Fool is normally about a "leap of faith" but Solas is missing the cliffs which is a big part of the Rider Waite symbolism, but he is stepping off the card into something unknown. 

 

NewUSGamesFool.JPGSolas_romance_tarot.png

 

 

Solas's Tower card - It looks like the Hermit and Tower mixed together. Yea...like some crazy mash-up right? We have a Tower symbol in both cards but it’s a wolf for Solas with 3 eyes like the windows. The typical symbols of falling, fire and lightening are missing from Solas's card. Maybe the red background is intended to feel like it's all burning down? Or perhaps he's "falling" out of the wolf figure? The moon is where the crown should be and the crown symbolizes... well....having a crown literally knocked off of your head and the ivory tower is coming down. The Moon in DAI is Cole so likely this has something to do with the Fade or spirits. The figure in Solas's Tower looks just like the Hermit so we're coming back full circle. The Hermit carries a staff (symbol of authority) that represents the "ability to use his isolation and the knowledge gained as a tool upon his path". The Hermit normally carries a light that illustrates the light of god, “beloved or god” or enlightenment. Solas's Hermit seems to be stepping into an Eluvian and the typical Hermit is on a lonely icy cliff furthering the feeling of isolation and a "commitment to the path he has chosen". 

 

 

 

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So what does all this mean? I DO believe that this is NOT an accident or over sight. The devs mashed up these cards knowingly and it's up to us to interpret. Let me try to wrap this up with an analysis. 

 

At the start Solas is the Hermit and the Hierophant. Hermits have been alone and gathering knowledge that they want to share and that is Solas 100 percent. BTW knowledge from the Hermit isn't for everyone because it's normally deep stuff. However Solas shares it like the Hierophant which comes from a place of great authority and power. He is somehow a bridge (key) between the fade/heavens and the world but we don't know how exactly.

 

Solas becomes the FOoolll and he continues to be the Hierophant. The romance balcony scene is pretty much a man jumping off a cliff into the unknown like the Fool. He tells you again and again that you "change everything" and he sounds utterly lost, confused and almost inspired. However he gets himself back in control but the 3rd act and I would say that turning his back on love was also about denying himself of desire and "emotional entanglements" like the fool holding his white rose. He's keeping his mind on business and not allowing anything to interrupt his plan/journey. The white wolf could be the spirit of the Dread Wolf (if Solas is somehow joined with him and not just him) who is his guide and nudging him along on his path. 

 

At the end Solas is the Hermit and Tower. The orb's destruction somehow knocked everything out of whack and his plans are utterly destroyed! He has to start over. The wolf is terrifying and it looks like it's separating from Solas or consuming him so maybe he lost some of the "god" part of him or if he IS Fen'Harel he's losing god powers. He's also becoming the hermit again here. I'm sure you all recall his last message though Cole where he says he will travel alone forever :( It feels like he's walking into the Eluvian on some lonely infinity loop.

 

Finally, when he says "forever" it makes me think he's in a situation like Quantum Leap. He travels in some way that cannot be comprehended and no one can join him. This is why I wonder if Solas can play with time and outcomes because he asks you to question reality, perception and accept that there are many outcomes in the Fade and that ALL are valid. If you could see multiple endings for something and influence the timeline of history no one would seem "real" and you would feel utterly utterly alone. When he tells Lavellan that it would be “kinder” and he can’t stand the thought of losing her, it’s himself he’s trying to protect. She’s a different outcome to a series of choices on a timeline that is changeable. It's possible he wants to disrupt the timeline we're on in DA and that means erasing outcomes and people. It's killing him. That is why he's so relieved in dialogue where he dislikes the Inquisitor. It's easier to swallow the idea of sacrificing people for the greater good if they aren't really worth it. 

 

I also think him becoming the Hermit again is a huge mistake on his part as it's about isolation and a commitment to his path even after the Tower fell and after his experiences with the Inquisition. Pride is clouding his vision and this isn't the first time I'll wager. He hasn't learned anything from his past mistakes if he continues to go it alone ya know? 

 

I went on way too long with this. I'm brain dumping because I know someone more knowledgeable about DA can likely piece this together better.

 

 

Interesting! Thank you for posting that. I will add this to my other speculations.

 

 



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Changing the nature of magic is possible. The veil, we know, was created - before, Solas indicates, spirits travelled freely in this world as part of it. Solas could be attempting to restore that way of things but given we've spent an entire game fixing the veil, the idea of his lifting it again... seems like it'd be catastrophic, or a disaster waiting to happen, or just counter-intuitive gameplay wise. Like recyling the plot much? Still, I wouldn't totally discount this one and wouldn't be too surprised if it was the plot of the next game.

 

There's actually no contradiction since, as I said earlier, the Breach tore the Veil and created many rifts. These all stressed out the spirits and made many of them turn into demons as a result. Solas very much wants to repair the damage, to calm the situation by repairing the Veil. Enter you.

 

You help him fix his indirect error. He's dedicated to making things right. He repeats that he'll stay to help close the Breach/seal rifts more than once. But while he talks about the time when there was no Veil and coexistence happened, and hints that he'd like a return to that. He would never want to just tear the thing open traumatically.

 

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And suddenly, I find myself writing my Lavellan in a bath waiting for Solas. -_-

 

 

It's kind of an in between for two things I already wrote, so I'll stick this in as a chapter once it's done.


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Spoiler

 

For you, vhenan:

 

http://ar-lath-ma-vh...illylittlecakes

 

(you are all my vhenans.  10/10.  Would dump all of you in a fire swamp).

 

EDIT: ninja'd.  But it's from Renmiri's tumblr anyway so it's only fair.

 

Thanks dolls! <3 And haha, Patrick Weekes is pretty great.

 

Just watched GoT.PdW9VVM_700wa_0.gif

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So did I. So did I. (Vague GoT spoilers alert:)

 

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#104220
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Art break.

 

Lavellan and the Dread Wolf.

 

Sad Concept!Solas.

 

Lovely Solas sketch.

 

How Solas became bald.  :mellow: (Inspired by Disney's Hercules.)

 

And not fanart but artwork of Solas from the WoT2 "class picture" thing.

 

EDIT: Top again.

 

Have a smiling Solas and Cole screenshot by captaincaranis. <3 (I love this so much!)

 

SOURCE

 

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#104221
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I'm sorry- I know that Solas lovers abound in this thread but I can't help but laugh at his sassy head toss after being punched.



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I'm sorry- I know that Solas lovers abound in this thread but I can't help but laugh at his sassy head toss after being punched.

 

It wasn't a head toss. It was more of a head snap as he stops himself from completely annihilating the Inquisitor. 

How dare anyone punch Solas! 


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#104223
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Speaking of the punch scene... when he says "You're not gaining allies, you're gaining minions: sheep driven by one false god to fearfully follow another"... is he referencing the Maker or Corypheus?



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Speaking of the punch scene... when he says "You're not gaining allies, you're gaining minions: sheep driven by one false god to fearfully follow another"... is he referencing the Maker or Corypheus?

......that's a good question. I would guess the Maker.....maybe....I don't know. 

 

I sometimes wonder if Solas knows who the Maker actually is. The way he talks to Cassandra about the Maker is interesting.....and the whole being an ancient elf that walks around in the Fade finding out stuff.

 

And a comment that Cole makes in conversation with  Solas always struck me as interesting as well. Cole says something like "Why would they want to fight the Maker? He's already to far away." Now, If I'm not mistaken, that is from a little conversation that is actually about a TV show, but still. Interesting comment none the less from a spirit.



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Art again.

 

An awesome screencap redraw of Solas and Lavellan.

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After endgame.

 

Lavellan's reaction to Solas' "Ar lath ma vhenan." xD

 

Sketch of Solas and a warrior Lavellan. (Finally! I hardly see Solavellan fanarts where Lavellan is a warrior.)

 

Solas reading Solavellan fanfiction. xD Art by needapotion.

 

Nerd. 


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