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I think he's one of the most attractive men in the game, possibly the series!  I'm just saying that to some players the older egghead fadenerd would not be acceptably hot.  I blame Twilight (actually, I blame Twilight for a lot of things).

 

(apologies to any Twilight fans in the thread.)

Haha! I like blaming Twilight for stuff too!

 

But yes, Solas is incredibly attractive in a very striking-stop-you-in-your-tracks kind of way.

 

Like seriously, the clans that treated him poorly had to have been all male or something. I just don't see how any elf woman would see that face and not trip over herself.

 

Now we know the real reason why clans were chasing him away.


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Okay, maybe you guys can help me with this. How do I download the Black Emporium? 

 

I found online that you have to download from Origins, which I did. And Origins gave me the message after "purchasing" that "this content will be available the next time you start the application." When I started up Inquisition, I was expecting to get some kind of installing screen, but I didn't.

 

Other stuff I found online says the Black Emporium should show up on the War Table map, but I can't find it.

 

I'm assuming I missed a step on how to actually install it.

If I remember right, you need to actually go to where you see the game in Origins, scroll down to where you see the dlcs and stuff and there should be  download button of some sort.

 

If that doesn't help I'm at a loss. =(



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Haha! I like blaming Twilight for stuff too!

 

But yes, Solas is incredibly attractive in a very striking-stop-you-in-your-tracks kind of way.

 

Like seriously, the clans that treated him poorly had to have been all male or something. I just don't see how any elf woman would see that face and not trip over herself.

 

Now we know the real reason why clans were chasing him away.

 

I thought he was striking when I first saw him (rather than attractive).  That eventually got upgraded to 'dammit, Solas. Stop looking so sexy.  My Lavellan is promised to Sera' shortly before the game came out (it was when the devs were showing off the armours in the game and using Solas as their dressup doll).



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Okay, maybe you guys can help me with this. How do I download the Black Emporium? 

 

I found online that you have to download from Origins, which I did. And Origins gave me the message after "purchasing" that "this content will be available the next time you start the application." When I started up Inquisition, I was expecting to get some kind of installing screen, but I didn't.

 

Other stuff I found online says the Black Emporium should show up on the War Table map, but I can't find it.

 

I'm assuming I missed a step on how to actually install it.

 

You need to be connected to the internet (and have Origin online) when you load up a save.  That should get everything to show up.  All you need to do is load, save and exit.
 



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If I remember right, you need to actually go to where you see the game in Origins, scroll down to where you see the dlcs and stuff and there should be  download button of some sort.

 

If that doesn't help I'm at a loss. =(

 

I saw that too, though the person was talking about PC, specifically. I don't know if it's the same for consoles. However, once logged into Origins, I can't find anything that actually lists the games that I have.

 

I am at a loss as well.  <_<



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This is my favorite version of Solas with dreads because I think it actually looks like him. I don't mind looking at concept Solas art, but I agree with you all. I really dislike it when people say he looks better with the dreads.

 

http://ynorka.devian...f-god-535277004

 

When I created my Lavellan I was thinking of The Last Unicorn, so I made her pale with white hair. I used to collect art of wolves and unicorns when I was younger so that's how I see her and Solas.

 

http://droemar.devia...Tattoo-19189262


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I don't find Solas ugly at all and I think he looks super attractive in certain screenshots like Captaincaranis'!  The most I can say is that his facial proportions, particularly his eyes in relation to the top of his head, is quite a bit off from usual which might be why some people raise a brow at him.



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Looks like I had to download the Black Emporium from the PlayStation Store, not Origins. It works now!

 

I can finally fix Lavellan's mouth. She has a glitch where if she smiles, the corners of her lips disappear into her cheeks. It very distracting.


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Hmm, in part I still like the concept Solas as a version of younger Solas, but I in no way think concept Solas is better. First off I hate the dreadlocks, not that I mind a younger Solas with hair (I don't prefer the hair I just don't mind it) but I prefer the idea of him with hair that's a bit more...tidy. I don't think the dreadlocks suit his character all that much (which is probably why they were cut). There is only one picture I love of Solas with hair and it's this one:

 

Spoiler

 

I suppose the big reason I don't mind the idea of concept Solas being younger Solas even if he is more Dread Wolfy is that even Solas himself has stated his younger self was much more flawed then his current self. "Hot blooded and cocky", "a younger elf who thought he knew everything", etc etc. Older/Canon Solas is superior as he has matured, he's still flawed, but he has matured.

 

Otherwise I agree with you all, suggesting concept Solas is better is just a big "No" for me. There is a reason it's just a concept and current Solas is canon Solas, and that's because canon Solas fit him best!

 

I suppose I'm not jaded by the idea of concept Solas as younger Solas because I have managed to largely avoid people insisting that concept Solas is better because he's "hotter" with hair.

 

 

 

I never liked this trope. My Lavellan isn't a halla, she's a bear! -_-  sun bear to be exact

 

 

I didn't know this! :lol:

 

I still don't mind the idea of concept!Solas as young!Solas. I just don't like that people seem to think that concept!Solas is better than canon!Solas. 

 

As for my Lavellan, I'm lazy and chose a wolf as her symbol since the hunter Lavellan card shows a wolf. xD Maybe a scrappy, young adult wolf. :lol:

 

And here are some pics of the concept art of Blackwall as a dwarf, courtesy of Aimo.

 

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I thought he was striking when I first saw him (rather than attractive).  That eventually got upgraded to 'dammit, Solas. Stop looking so sexy.  My Lavellan is promised to Sera' shortly before the game came out (it was when the devs were showing off the armours in the game and using Solas as their dressup doll).

 

I didn't think much when Bioware first revealed Solas. I was like, "Okay, bald elf." (And the initial image I saw of Solas was NOT flattering. xD) It was only when I actually got to see Solas in motion and heard him speak is when I found him pretty attractive. Now I find him to be the most handsome (and sexiest) man in the series. Like really I'm not joking.


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A lot of Solas' promo really did not do him any favors



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I didn't think much when Bioware first revealed Solas. I was like, "Okay, bald elf." (And the initial image I saw of Solas was NOT flattering. xD) It was only when I actually got to see Solas in motion and heard him speak is when I found him pretty attractive. Now I find him to be the most handsome (and sexiest) man in the series. Like really I'm not joking.

 

I was one of the people who thought he was Dorian because we only saw him from a distance and he had a staff.  So I was excited because our magister companion was going to be an elf, and that was cool.



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It's always interesting to see what the fandom will pick up on and run away with as well as what they will completely ignore. Solas has an incredible depth of character, but a lot of what is out there seems to focus and expand on tidbits of information. 

 

I don't mind the concept art hair because I make the distinction that it may possibly be how he looked before whatever it was that he did back in Arlathan. People go through life stages, their appearance changes over time. The concept hair works for me as a possible reflection of Solas' more hot-headed youth, while the bald head works for who he is now. I don't see one as better than the other because I acknowledge the idea that Solas has undergone some serious life changes to become the man we see in the game. But I can see the frustration with the part of the fandom that sees it as better than bald. When people start making such a black and white distinction about a character, especially one so well written, it tends to leave a bad taste in my mouth.

 

Personally, I like the fact that Bioware doesn't seem to pander to the notion that every LI has to adhere to some Hollywood notion of beauty, as much as I think some of the fandom would prefer. 

 

With Solas, I think the added complication is that we have very little in the way of concrete facts on him. We do have a lot of half-truths and possible full truths (ie. the village he grew up in). But a lot of what we know about him is based on the inferences we make based on his banter with other characters, what he will give approval for, his conversations with the Inquisitor, his personal quests, and what Weeks has confirmed about him. And people can take the same set of information and infer different things from it based on their own life experiences and perspective. All of this gives you a bit more space to head-canon around Solas and how he became the person we see in game than say Cassandra or Cole because they come to the game with a more in-depth character history that the player is aware of either through the game or other Bioware novels/games/movies. Because of this, I think as far as Fic goes, Solas is probably the hardest to write, especially if you are hanging out in his head. I generally take the approach that there are going to be fics I don't like because they have a different interpretation of Solas than I do, but for the most part I can see where that particular view of Solas is coming from, even if it is coming from an inference that I find specious at best. 

 

It will be interesting to see, once we have more definitive information on him, which head-canons turn out to be in line with what Bioware has down about Solas and his past.

 


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It's always interesting to see what the fandom will pick up on and run away with as well as what they will completely ignore. Solas has an incredible depth of character, but a lot of what is out there seems to focus and expand on tidbits of information. 

 

I don't mind the concept art hair because I make the distinction that it may possibly be how he looked before whatever it was that he did back in Arlathan. People go through life stages, their appearance changes over time. The concept hair works for me as a possible reflection of Solas' more hot-headed youth, while the bald head works for who he is now. I don't see one as better than the other because I acknowledge the idea that Solas has undergone some serious life changes to become the man we see in the game. But I can see the frustration with the part of the fandom that sees it as better than bald. When people start making such a black and white distinction about a character, especially one so well written, it tends to leave a bad taste in my mouth.

 

Personally, I like the fact that Bioware doesn't seem to pander to the notion that every LI has to adhere to some Hollywood notion of beauty, as much as I think some of the fandom would prefer. 

 

With Solas, I think the added complication is that we have very little in the way of concrete facts on him. We do have a lot of half-truths and possible full truths (ie. the village he grew up in). But a lot of what we know about him is based on the inferences we make based on his banter with other characters, what he will give approval for, his conversations with the Inquisitor, his personal quests, and what Weeks has confirmed about him. And people can take the same set of information and infer different things from it based on their own life experiences and perspective. All of this gives you a bit more space to head-canon around Solas and how he became the person we see in game than say Cassandra or Cole because they come to the game with a more in-depth character history that the player is aware of either through the game or other Bioware novels/games/movies. Because of this, I think as far as Fic goes, Solas is probably the hardest to write, especially if you are hanging out in his head. I generally take the approach that there are going to be fics I don't like because they have a different interpretation of Solas than I do, but for the most part I can see where that particular view of Solas is coming from, even if it is coming from an inference that I find specious at best. 

 

It will be interesting to see, once we have more definitive information on him, which head-canons turn out to be in line with what Bioware has down about Solas and his past.

Yeah, that makes total sense. People must focus on what works best with their own Lavellan or whatever stuck out to them and run with it since as you said....there isn't actually a whole ton of hard facts like there are with other characters.

 

Funny enough, this actually seems to run both ways around Solas. I have noticed that people either love and defend Solas(based off of what little we actually know in the game) or they really, really, reeeeaaaaalllly hate him and think he's a total jerk(also based on what little is known through the game). Now, I am totally biased and I think that what is known through the game points in the direction of favor for those of us who love him, but after watching some videos on youtube and imagining playing the game a certain way....I can totally see how some people get that Solas could be a jerk.

 

But let's all be real.

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<snip>

 

But let's all be real.

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I love this shot. <3 I use it as a wallpaper for my work laptop.  :wub:


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Know what else I've come to strongly dislike?  This trope of 'little halla and the big bad dread wolf' that happens in fanfic (mostly timetravel fic).

I haven't run across any of these fics, but if someone is going to write wolfy Solas with someone who is a halla, or can take the form of one, why not Ghilan'nain who already fits the bill? I already ship them though, so... I have this headcanon that she's like Princess Bubblegum, always creating monsters and weird stuff and other people like Andruil and Fen'Harel have to come and tell her to dial it down. I'm really looking forward to finding out whether it was Ghilan'nain who was the friend he trusted who betrayed him way back when.



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The war table concept art that Matt Rhodes did featured a smirking, haired Solas. The earlier versions of Fen'Harel were definitely wolfy! The dark side of Solas fits that a little bit? Not in a predatory way -- in a conniving way. But I am also firmly in the egg head Solas club!! They were so subtle and smart in his design -- he seems cultured in attitude and appearance, and it forms an air of mystery. I support their decision.

And we already discussed long hair on playable characters might not be appealing on model just yet xD
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Yeah, that makes total sense. People must focus on what works best with their own Lavellan or whatever stuck out to them and run with it since as you said....there isn't actually a whole ton of hard facts like there are with other characters.

 

Funny enough, this actually seems to run both ways around Solas. I have noticed that people either love and defend Solas(based off of what little we actually know in the game) or they really, really, reeeeaaaaalllly hate him and think he's a total jerk(also based on what little is known through the game). Now, I am totally biased and I think that what is known through the game points in the direction of favor for those of us who love him, but after watching some videos on youtube and imagining playing the game a certain way....I can totally see how some people get that Solas could be a jerk.

 

But let's all be real.

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That's why I like this thread.  We love him, but we also tend to talk about his faults a lot. 

 

I haven't run across any of these fics, but if someone is going to write wolfy Solas with someone who is a halla, or can take the form of one, why not Ghilan'nain who already fits the bill? I already ship them though, so... I have this headcanon that she's like Princess Bubblegum, always creating monsters and weird stuff and other people like Andruil and Fen'Harel have to come and tell her to dial it down. I'm really looking forward to finding out whether it was Ghilan'nain who was the friend he trusted who betrayed him way back when.

 

Solas/Ghilly?  I'd not considered that.  I ship Andruil/Ghilan'nain myself.  It's pretty much canon.

 

The type of fic I'm refering to is the sort where Lavellan will travel back in time and meet Fen'Harel, who immediately starts adressing her as a 'halla' and acting super predatory towards her.

 

My Lavellan would just pull a Sera at this.  *raspberry noises intensify*


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That war table concept art in case everyone hasn't seen it

http://mattrhodesart...-Room-447721063


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So, I have officially become obsessed with Dragon Age enough that I have deemed it necessary to learn how to draw.

 

And my first subjects in learning how to draw are none other than Solas, my Lavellan and Cole.

 

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Solas is very difficult to draw. But learning something new is proving to be fun and I plan to get better.

 

Plus, maybe now I will be able to draw out some of the silly nonsense I see in my head while playing the game.


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Yeah, that makes total sense. People must focus on what works best with their own Lavellan or whatever stuck out to them and run with it since as you said....there isn't actually a whole ton of hard facts like there are with other characters.

 

Funny enough, this actually seems to run both ways around Solas. I have noticed that people either love and defend Solas(based off of what little we actually know in the game) or they really, really, reeeeaaaaalllly hate him and think he's a total jerk(also based on what little is known through the game). Now, I am totally biased and I think that what is known through the game points in the direction of favor for those of us who love him, but after watching some videos on youtube and imagining playing the game a certain way....I can totally see how some people get that Solas could be a jerk.

 

But let's all be real.

Spoiler

 

Oh my, that shot, well hmmm (fans self)

 

I think the stinger at the end of the game also adds to the whole "Solas is evil or a jerk" thing if you did not relate to his character at all and don't give him the benefit of the doubt around how Coryfish ended up with his orb. People see that and make that jump to him being the big bad in the next game. But that's a big leap for me since I feel like, in a lot of ways, I am still on the fence when it comes to Solas. Don't get me wrong, I love his character, his romance is great even though I wish there was more content, and like I said I think he is hands down one the best-written characters in DA universe. However, while I don't think he will be a villain the way Coryfish was, I do think he has the potential to be an adversary. For me, there's just too much of a mystery surrounding his past and this mission he seems to be on to say for certain that he can't possibly be at odds with the Inquisition and the Inquisitor at some point.

 

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Mini art break! :D

 

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I read a lot of GeekyJez fics and she used the halla/wolf thing as masks at the Winter Palace, and I thought that was a creative use of it since halla do sort of represent the Dalish in a lot of ways. I can see my quizzy using a halla to represent herself (in a personalized banner or something), but I agree that her relationship with Solas is definitely not a predator/prey situation and that they are on equal ground.

On a totally off-topic note, I was playing ME3 for the first time in forever and realized that Samantha Traynor is British Lady Inquisitor...and it made her conversation with Edi during the party very silly. (I'm sure most people already know this. I'm usually out of the loop with these things.) (I also might maybe want to make a Traynor-Travellyan now..)


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Off topic but how do you get the art to show within the spoiler? Whenever I use the Image Icon to post an image, I get a broken url notice, is there a step I am missing?



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I usually just highlight the picture and click the "Special BBCCode" link and choose spoiler. Or you can just type [ spoiler] [ /spoiler] (without spaces) around it. I'm still learning my way around message boards, though. Or is it the Image icon not working? I don't know how to help if that's the case.



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So..this was just posted.

 

Introducing Mass Effect: Andromeda.

http://blog.bioware....a/?sf38667951=1


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I ship Andruil/Ghilan'nain myself.  It's pretty much canon.

 

Oh! yes please! <3

 

Mini art break! :D

 

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Beautiful! :wub: