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I brought you the Desert Wolf wallpaper :)

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This artwork is just beautiful!  :wub: Love your works!

 

Just finished coloring Solas and Lavellan reading. Hope you enjoy :D

 

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This is adorable!  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:

 

Ah, I love how we've each been posting our own artworks in a short span of time. :lol:


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Just finished coloring my Solas and Lavellan drawing. Hope you enjoy :D
 

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Your Lavellan is ridiculously adorable.  Also, for those of you who draw Lavellan with green vallaslin, how do you get that to work in the actual game?  Maybe I'm just bad at color, but whenever I try to tint the vallaslin green, it just looks sort of plague-y.
 

So...in my fanfic "Wolf Caged"  I wrote about Solas and my Lavellan's first night together. I called his lust for her the wolf inside him wanted to escape it's cage. After they did the deed, the wolf returned to the cage. Is something like that alright? Because I also don't like the whole idea of him acting like an animal. I think they way I did it was more of a metaphor. I don't know. It was the first time I had ever written anything like that.


IMO, it depends on how far you take the metaphor: basically, whether you extend the metaphor to sex or not. People are also going to vary in what they do and don't like. If you're really worried about it, you can always remove the metaphor or change it to something else.
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Your Lavellan is ridiculously adorable.  Also, for those of you who draw Lavellan with green vallaslin, how do you get that to work in the actual game?  Maybe I'm just bad at color, but whenever I try to tint the vallaslin green, it just looks sort of plague-y.

 

Thanks! If I remember correctly, I use a dark brown color with a bit of green in it. Once in game, it looks good. And I dont use the super opaque vallaslin, I use the one a bit more transparent.


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I saw that in the forums. Not sure it's legit.

 

If it is, I can't imagine Solas being the "great evil". Though I think Solas will be AN antagonist in some way, I highly doubt he'll be the MAIN antagonist of the next game. It's possible he'll release something pretty bad, though. That would be a bit too much like a new version of Inquisition, then again. Solas enabling the great evil again would be kind of redundant.  :lol:


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OT: I, too, would like to wreck Solas with my "Nilfgaard is for Lovers" deck. I wish it was possible.

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What is it with the love for the Black Ones? Northern Kingdom's for life!


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So...in my fanfic "Wolf Caged"  I wrote about Solas and my Lavellan's first night together. I called his lust for her the wolf inside him wanted to escape it's cage. After they did the deed, the wolf returned to the cage. Is something like that alright? Because I also don't like the whole idea of him acting like an animal. I think they way I did it was more of a metaphor. I don't know. It was the first time I had ever written anything like that.

 

I suppose the question to ask yourself is if you would have used that particular way of phrasing it if Solas hadn't been associated with the whole Dread Wolf thing. That would be your own personal answer to deal with as you see fit. Beyond that, it's fan fiction, so everyone is free to write what they want. I only gripe about the dominant wolf/acting like a puppy/howling at the moon crap because it's not what we saw of Solas, and while none of us know who or what or how he really is it's just a little off-putting to see people running with an idea of what they think he is and ignoring what we actually do know of him. Solas can be aggressive, or passionate, or kind and gentle and somehow that's all sifted through and most of it discarded in favor of what some deem "wolfish" for their use.

 

Or, you know, all the "lol he kicks his feets like puppy n skratches fleas" stuff making him seem like a ridiculous caricature. Just... no. Respect the poor bastard more than that. :P

 

Either way, don't feel bad or sorry for whatever you may have written. Even if it's not something I might find appealing, it doesn't mean someone else doesn't appreciate the work you put into it, and I can still respect that effort myself.


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Ah, I love how we've each been posting our own artworks in a short span of time. :lol:

It's a art-time! ^_^


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I saw that in the forums. Not sure it's legit.

 

If it is, I can't imagine Solas being the "great evil". Though I think Solas will be AN antagonist in some way, I highly doubt he'll be the MAIN antagonist of the next game. It's possible he'll release something pretty bad, though. That would be a bit too much like a new version of Inquisition, then again. Solas enabling the great evil again would be kind of redundant.  :lol:

Yeah, absolutely don't know if there anything legit in it... But if it was, my interpretation would be this: the "great evil" could be the threat the Executors were talking about, the "threat" can be that same mysterious group/race/? OR the Qunari maybe (OR anything that lurks in the West, or under Thedas? :P the possibilities are practically endless, poor Thedas :P ). But "the one who started it all" could be Solas.



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Yeah, absolutely don't know if there anything legit in it... But if it was, my interpretation would be this: the "great evil" could be the threat the Executors were talking about, the "threat" can be that same mysterious group/race/? OR the Qunari maybe (OR anything that lurks in the West, or under Thedas? :P the possibilities are practically endless, poor Thedas :P ). But "the one who started it all" could be Solas.

 

That would make sense. And it seems like your mark goes haywire in this possible DLC, so going to find Solas makes sense too. He's the only one who seems to know anything about it and now you and your crew have been clued in that he knows much, much more than he was saying when he was around. 

 

But following all the rest of the things in that paragraph, I don't like the tone that this "confrontation" has based on that description. It doesn't sound very good for Solas fans. Then again, I'm not sure I believe this anyways.


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Yeah, absolutely don't know if there anything legit in it... But if it was, my interpretation would be this: the "great evil" could be the threat the Executors were talking about, the "threat" can be that same mysterious group/race/? OR the Qunari maybe (OR anything that lurks in the West, or under Thedas? :P the possibilities are practically endless, poor Thedas :P ). But "the one who started it all" could be Solas.

 

If this is real, I'll pretend to be positive and think that we'll team up with Solas to fight the one who started it all. Not that we'd have to fight Solas, who started it all... <_<


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What is it with the love for the Black Ones? Northern Kingdom's for life!

The Nilfgaardians are my aesthetic.

 

However, the Northern kingdoms' deck does include Vernon Roche. So they do have that trump card.

 

I have a feeling Solas would play the Northern Kingdoms deck. The Nilfgaardians are too Tevinter, the Scoia'tel are too Dalish, and the monsters deck hits too close to home.


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The Nilfgaardians are my aesthetic.

 

However, the Northern kingdoms' deck does include Vernon Roche. So they do have that trump card.

 

I have a feeling Solas would play the Northern Kingdoms deck. The Nilfgaardians are too Tevinter, the Scoia'tel are too Dalish, and the monsters deck hits too close to home.

I'd have to agree.  I think he would build a good deck, filled with decoy, spy cards, and scorches with some some solid numbers cards and a Dandelion. I actually think he would be hard to beat.  And then I'd flip the board in my poor sport rage.  

 

Nilfgaard forever. Morvran Voorhis for emperor of my heart.  All Roche has to do is come over to the best side. He and Geralt can put on a maching set of black and glorious Nilfgaard armor and ride into battle gloriously all black and gilded and saxual.  And then make out.  THE END. 


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If this is real, I'll pretend to be positive and think that we'll team up with Solas to fight the one who started it all. Not that we'd have to fight Solas, who started it all... <_<

I still maintain someone had to wake Solas up. Based on the little that we know about Uthenera...you can't just wake up. Something has to wake you up i.e. the wards in the temple of Mythal wake up the guardians.  So powerful magic.  Whatever it was, knew something was coming. I still think Solas may do something jacked up - under the thought that it's for the greater good - and you may get caught in the middle somewhere.  I want to see the romance through - but I'm so starry eyed with real life things that I'm  like whatever at this point. So I'll go with most compelling ending. 


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So...in my fanfic "Wolf Caged"  I wrote about Solas and my Lavellan's first night together. I called his lust for her the wolf inside him wanted to escape it's cage. After they did the deed, the wolf returned to the cage. Is something like that alright? Because I also don't like the whole idea of him acting like an animal. I think they way I did it was more of a metaphor. I don't know. It was the first time I had ever written anything like that.

You are completely fine. Ignore the haters.

 

People have been having a tendency to put their thoughts in terms of, "I hate it when people think this because I think this other thing," instead of just, "I think this." It's getting ridiculous. (I've been trying to not rant, but it hasn't let up.) You can think whatever you want to think.,

 

Everyone knows Solas only says "da'len" once (if at all). That was never the question. The question is whether or not some people can play with it in their heads--which they can because it is in their own heads. It was ridiculous to get Patrick Weekes to comment on it...so he could say, "I'm pretty sure he only says it once, in response to her, and before the romance started," and then respond back to him, "Yes, that's correct." Yes, it IS correct. But if people want to run away with different ideas, then let them run away with different ideas. It doesn't have anything to do with anyone else. (I don't even like when people use "da'len." Stop making me feel the need to defend it!)

 

If people like Solas with different hair, who cares. (I like both.) You can say, "I like him bald!" but don't put down other people that like him with hair--especially if lots of those people think of him as having hair thousands and thousands of years ago which has no bearing on Solas as we curently know him. If you're feeling the need to defend him because people are hating him being bald...do it where they're actually hating on him. Saying, "People keep hating on him being bald; I'm sick of people liking him with hair," isn't defending him against haters. It's just bringing the hate here against other fans who have every right to think whatever they want to think in their own heads.

 

Reading whatever metaphorical or literal meaning into the wolf thing is, right now anyway, completely up to our own heads. Shapeshifting, spirit forms, the nature of him, how it relates to his personality or "wolfish" attributes he may have incorporate into his mindset--we don't know. Literal stuff is more...out there. But people are complaining about too many people drawing from the "dread wolf" thing because lots of people are doing it, so you're in good company and welcome to it. It's not unusual and you can interpret the wolf stuff however you choose to. (Hate the halla thing because it doesn't fit my characters, but other people aren't writing about my characters! And I don't have a problem with him being compared to a wolf because...he's the Dread Wolf. That's not insignificant to me.)

 

We get little tiny fragments of these characters, and we take these little strands and fill in the blanks. How anyone wants to fill in those blanks is no one else's business. If other people filled their blanks differently, that is fine. If you think you have valid reasons for filling the blanks your way, then by all means share--this is a place to discuss Solas. That is absolutely what we're supposed to do. But saying that you dislike how other people think is not an argument or a discussion--it's just hating.

 

(And now I'm the biggest hater! Weee!)


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On the subject of wolf imagery and Solas, I think it depends it on the type of imagery you using and the cultural basis it comes from. As the article that Sah291 posted, the whole alpha male thing is very off-base from actual wolf alpha male behavior. From what I have seen in regards to Solas and wolf imagery in Fics, it strikes me the imagery it comes from Grimm and other Western folklore bases. And wolves have a darkness to them in Western folklore, and it is somewhat sexualized. I mean you can do a whole sexual awakening read of Red Ridinghood.  This is why I want to look more into Native People's lore around wolves because Grimm/Western cultural interpretations of wolf imagery does not work for me when it comes to Solas, but since I don't know Native lore as well I can't point to any specific tales as of yet.


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*snip*

 

I think most of the frustration comes from the fact that people seem more interested in pulling from tiny little fragments of Solas or a Solas that never existed instead of Solas' real traits. That's how it feels to me, and that's not how everyone has to feel and nobody has to care either. I don't expect them to at all! Everyone is free to headcanon what they want and like what they want, and everyone is free to dislike it too. If I disagree with super, constantly wolfish Solas or smirky, predatory, hairy Solas, I'm not saying the fans who like it are dumb or should be ashamed of themselves. It's just that I personally don't like seeing it as much as I do and I wonder why it's so prevalent. I don't think anyone means to hurt feelings by expressing what they personally don't like in portrayals of Solas. It's just a matter of differing opinion!

 

I have seen legitimate fan shaming on the da'len thing but that's all mostly on Tumblr. I never really understood the immense hatred of it, honestly and I don't think it's nearly as condescending or power-problematic as people claim it is. It's not like Solas ISN'T much older than you and he does know a lot more than you do just from being around so long. And I don't necessarily think a relationship with someone you can learn a lot from is unhealthy or makes you a child.  I just think it's OOC for Solas and that's my only problem with it!


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I still maintain someone had to wake Solas up. Based on the little that we know about Uthenera...you can't just wake up. Something has to wake you up i.e. the wards in the temple of Mythal wake up the guardians.  So powerful magic.  Whatever it was, knew something was coming. I still think Solas may do something jacked up - under the thought that it's for the greater good - and you may get caught in the middle somewhere.  I want to see the romance through - but I'm so starry eyed with real life things that I'm  like whatever at this point. So I'll go with most compelling ending. 

 

Yeah, I'm open to the story. I'd just hate to have to turn around from this awesome tragic character being a friend and companion and do another Anders Escapade. The story would probably be good, but... I don't know, to me it would feel like the character just got drawn up short. I guess if that's how he was always intended, then fine, but I hope it's not the obvious companion-turned-villain route. Antagonist to a point might be interesting though. Same goal, different means of achieving, compromise on it in the end? Might be interesting.


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If this is real, I'll pretend to be positive and think that we'll team up with Solas to fight the one who started it all. Not that we'd have to fight Solas, who started it all... <_<


Hmm. On one hand, I'm always inclined to be skeptical of leaks. On the other hand, a lot of the leaks that we got about DA:I before its announcement and ME:Andromeda were largely on the money. This one looks like a bit of a mashup of a bunch of unlinked plot ideas, though. It doesn't seem cohesive enough to be legit (for example, Jaws of Hakkon focused on the Avvar, Ameridan, and little else).
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Ah, I love how we've each been posting our own artworks in a short span of time. :lol:

 

You guys are the reason I have started drawing again. I want to improve so that I can share pretty Solas pictures with you!  :P

 

Oh dear, how did I get TOP?

Here's a fanart of.... you know.

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I think most of the frustration comes from the fact that people seem more interested in pulling from tiny little fragments of Solas or a Solas that never existed instead of Solas' real traits. That's how it feels to me, and that's not how everyone has to feel and nobody has to care either. I don't expect them to at all! Everyone is free to headcanon what they want and like what they want, and everyone is free to dislike it too. If I disagree with super, constantly wolfish Solas or smirky, predatory, hairy Solas, I'm not saying the fans who like it are dumb or should be ashamed of themselves. It's just that I personally don't like seeing it as much as I do and I wonder why it's so prevalent. I don't think anyone means to hurt feelings by expressing what they personally don't like in portrayals of Solas. It's just a matter of differing opinion!

 

I have seen legitimate fan shaming on the da'len thing but that's all mostly on Tumblr. I never really understood the immense hatred of it, honestly and I don't think it's nearly as condescending or power-problematic as people claim it is. It's not like Solas ISN'T much older than you and he does know a lot more than you do just from being around so long. And I don't necessarily think a relationship with someone you can learn a lot from is unhealthy or makes you a child.  I just think it's OOC for Solas and that's my only problem with it!

 This. Be free little Lavellans! You likes what you likes and I likes what I likes - so if it starts veering in a direction that makes me uncomfortable, I stop and move on.  If someone likes it, then that's cool too. And that's what I meant.  I PERSONALLY can't stomach the darker Solas stuff.  I think various bad real life relationships make me somewhat skittish around some of the depictions of him especially the ones where he's almost predatory - not triggering - just...I can't ever think it's a healthy relationship. But that's my own baggage.  Noone has to cater to me.  My headcanons of Lavellan/Solas are good enough. 

 

Be free to write what you want to.  The only piece of fanfiction I ever wrote for Dragon Age, I felt compelled to list it as Dubcon. So it's not like I'm a stranger to weird stuff.  I mean, hell, I either wrote or helped write a lot of the weirder stuff on Vhenantrash.


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Solas seems to use the wolf as a symbol in his paintings of the Inquisition so I imagine it's metaphorical. I don't think he has a dark wolf personality hidden within him. He comes across as compassionate, kind and empathetic most of the time. He does become impulsive and emotional but normally because something is happening that taps into deeper feelings. He often apologizes after an out burst. I just don't see him having ominous wolf under tones. I mean, the final romance scene says it all. He's so....gentle. At least I read him that way.

So I guess I'm saying that the wolf could simply be a symbol. Perhaps he used the wolf as a symbol for his rebellion and it stuck in the imagination of the people long after.

But hey, that's just my take :)
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Solas seems to use the wolf as a symbol in his paintings of the Inquisition so I imagine it's metaphorical. I don't think he has a dark wolf personality hidden within him. He comes across as compassionate, kind and empathetic most of the time. He does become impulsive and emotional but normally because something is happening that taps into deeper feelings. He often apologizes after an out burst. I just don't see him having ominous wolf under tones. I mean, the final romance scene says it all. He's so....gentle.

So I guess I'm saying that the wolf could simply be a symbol. Perhaps he used the wolf as a symbol for his rebellion and it stuck in the imagination of the people long after.

 

Yep. Solas can be vicious when he wants to be, but so is pretty much every other Dragon Age companion. Everyone's a killer! :lol: He doesn't even like killing, as he expresses to Iron Bull, so there's not much of a dark, predatory wolf stereotype to him. It's not that I don't get why it's around all the time, though. I think most of it is the idea of an "inner beast" that everyone has to some extent and of course, since he's the Dread Wolf, Solas' is expressed as a wolf. 


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Yeah, I'm open to the story. I'd just hate to have to turn around from this awesome tragic character being a friend and companion and do another Anders Escapade. The story would probably be good, but... I don't know, to me it would feel like the character just got drawn up short. I guess if that's how he was always intended, then fine, but I hope it's not the obvious companion-turned-villain route. Antagonist to a point might be interesting though. Same goal, different means of achieving, compromise on it in the end? Might be interesting.

I would hate that too since Anders in DA2 is the worst.  I don't think they will.  The way DA2 was written and built, broke Anders. They needed more time and they didn't have it.    Bioware and EA seem invested in doing better and likely will do better with a character they spent 6 years on...but you never know.  Look at the GoT show writers. They had an already written story and took a big fat poo on it.

 

I don't rightly know what Bioware will do.   But I'm ok with a GOOD ending. Death. No death. As long as it's written well and Cass and Solas get their reckoning friendship scene.    I am also ok with Solas being a somewhat antagonist. There are ways to write a "bad guy" well, make them compelling, and make siding with them seem ok...or at least show there is no good/evil choice.  You just live with your decisions and hope they turn out for the best down the line.  So I guess, Solas being the "bad guy" would be up for interpretation. That's what I would like.  I don't thik the ending will be fluffy. It's just impossible given what he is, what he did, and what he may do.  Then you have the Inquisition. Their collapse of power. The vacuum that inevietably follows.  It will get sticky and nasty. That's what I like though.  No way out.  Just living with the decision.



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Yep. Solas can be vicious when he wants to be, but so is pretty much every other Dragon Age companion. Everyone's a killer! :lol: He doesn't even like killing, as he expresses to Iron Bull, so there's not much of a dark, predatory wolf stereotype to him. It's not that I don't get why it's around all the time, though. I think most of it is the idea of an "inner beast" that everyone has to some extent and of course, since he's the Dread Wolf, Solas' is expressed as a wolf.


Also, the elves tried the more accurate "Dread Pajama Nerd."  Didn't stick  :lol:


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Your Lavellan is ridiculously adorable.  Also, for those of you who draw Lavellan with green vallaslin, how do you get that to work in the actual game?  Maybe I'm just bad at color, but whenever I try to tint the vallaslin green, it just looks sort of plague-y.

 

My Lavellan had green vallaslin, but it was very light, which I think helped. Since it was Mythal's, I felt like green was the most appropriate color.

 

 

*ahem* Sorry to interrupt, but I just wanted to share with you guys my latest artwork. :blush:

 

 


This is beautiful.So sweet! <3 I love the color palette you chose for all of this. And I agree, your coloring has definitely improved.

 


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