It depends on the armor, but I was generally pretty happy with the armors in DAI. The ratio of good to bad was much improved. I loved that Dragon Assassin's Inquisition look. I crafted something better for her at the end though, I think. Or maybe put her in a JoH drop. I forget now.
Since this is semi-related to some of our discussions I'll post it here.
The female gate well...I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with his history or how the story will play out?
Or he's just straight. People can still be just straight these days and not need long story expositions as to why. 
I'd have romanced him just fine if he were male only, but at this point we're lucky he's a romance at all. Even if someone chooses not to play a female and romance him, you still get the benefit of videos and discussions that help illustrate him better as a character.
Are people asking the same questions about Dorian being gay? I really am wondering..I never leave this thread. It's scary out there. :-P
Are people asking the same questions about Dorian being gay? I really am wondering..I never leave this thread. It's scary out there. :-P
I think for some people when this comes up, with Dorian, being gay is so very integral to his personal story that it's a different scenario.
Personally, I like that they went back to giving people their own orientations. Not even just from a gameplay/replay gating perspective, but it just feels more realistic than DA2:everyone's bi.
There are mods if people really want to, but in terms of canon, it just helps make the characters more like actual people.
Totally off topic:
http://geeky-jez.tum...ical-phase-like
Don't know if any of you saw this of even like the Buffy the Vampire TV series, but I am sharing because it has been making me smile all day with silly AU possibilities, especially on the idea of who would have a ridiculous fear of a small furry woodland creature like Anya: Cassandra or Sera?
And Solas would be in soo much trouble
This sounds amazing. I recently watched Buffy in it's entirety on Netflix. I think everyone would be pretty screwed. Solas most of all. 
Anya is one of my favorite characters from that show. Maybe Sera, in regards to Cole, could represent her? Sera gets really freaked out about Cole. And he's like a furry woodland creature...with daggers! 
I can't stop giggling at the thought. I might be tired right now.
Totally off topic:
http://geeky-jez.tum...ical-phase-like
Don't know if any of you saw this of even like the Buffy the Vampire TV series, but I am sharing because it has been making me smile all day with silly AU possibilities, especially on the idea of who would have a ridiculous fear of a small furry woodland creature like Anya: Cassandra or Sera?
And Solas would be in soo much trouble
I would pay to see an episode of that. 
It depends on the armor, but I was generally pretty happy with the armors in DAI. The ratio of good to bad was much improved. I loved that Dragon Assassin's Inquisition look. I crafted something better for her at the end though, I think. Or maybe put her in a JoH drop. I forget now.
Since this is semi-related to some of our discussions I'll post it here.
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My favourite weapons and armor were the ones from Awakening but some of the DA2 ones were pretty good. The DAI ones are a bit complex to me, too many pieces and clashing colors / patterns
Or he's just straight. People can still be just straight these days and not need long story expositions as to why.
Oh, my. I can just imagine what a nice and saucy gay romance would be like for Solas. But personally I think both the race and the gender gated attribute fits Solas perfectly, it really does give me the vibe I think they want you to feel, i.e. that he's not really interested in a romance, but fLavellan caught him off guard completely. 
Mwahahahaha we have power over him!
From a more abstract gaming aspect I can see the attractiveness of almost everyone being bi and available, it makes a kind of "gaming sense" where you mix and match to get different combinations and variations, but I have to say that I find Inquisition is way more balanced and realistic, and overall realistic always beats any other approach. And they paired it evenly, so no complaints from me.
Having characters gated will limit gameplay experiences but I think it adds realism. Let's face it, people have preferences and whether they're learned or not they do exist. I can't imagine Solas being tempted by another race because I do NOT think he wants to get involved with anyone at all! He can't resist Lavellan because she represents something big. Maybe a dream that the elves can be saved? That modern elves can grow and return to their former greatness? He's inspired and that leads to oooops "did she just say that?" and "did I just say that?" and ugh "it's been like a gabillion years since I made out with a smart cute elf" followed by "UGH I'm in love with her nooooooooo....."
The female gate well...I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with his history or how the story will play out?
Or he's just straight. People can still be just straight these days and not need long story expositions as to why.
I think for some people when this comes up, with Dorian, being gay is so very integral to his personal story that it's a different scenario.
Personally, I like that they went back to giving people their own orientations. Not even just from a gameplay/replay gating perspective, but it just feels more realistic than DA2:everyone's bi.
There are mods if people really want to, but in terms of canon, it just helps make the characters more like actual people.
All this pretty much sums up my take on the female elf gated relationship w/Solas. Though, personally, I am not as inclined to mod romances to change gating because unless there is actual word from the developers that it was intended to be bi, gay, or whatnot, I am of the opinion that it messes with the integrity of the character. But to each there own.
Or he's just straight. People can still be just straight these days and not need long story expositions as to why.
Yeah, I personally quite like the gating because it means from a writing point of view, you can cater to one particular background very specifically. The Solas romance feels incredibly tailored to a female elf perspective. And whilst the rainbow-flag-waving part of me secretly wants every character to be (at least partially) relentlessly queer (which is also why I didn't mind the non-gated DA2 romances), I'm happy conceding Solas to f!Lavellan because it's written so damn well. I'm not going to complain about male gay romance options in a game with Dorian. I'm just reaallllyy happy that Bioware recognises that sexuality varies and is complex, when so so many game companies don't, and are quite happy not to.
I loaded up DA:O for the first time in about six months yesterday, and I'm currently playing through the Dalish quest with a city elf. Having played through DA:I the conflict between wolves vs. elves is horrendously ironic. The whole theme of the conflict is the outsider's (your) ignorance of the conflict, how there's always two sides to history, how events can me misinterpreted, how bitterness and vengeance - however justified - does change our outlook on things, and how people sometimes just straight out lie for a decent cause etc. These themes are crucial to pretty much any exploration of elven lore - which really explores how history is treated, mistreated, and rewritten. The devs must have been smirking at themselves when they first came up with that.
I got my final undergraduate results in today, and I'm 0.2 marks off a higher grade so I have to get to the department for 9am to argue for it to be weighted differently. Uggggggghhhh.
Oh, my. I can just imagine what a nice and saucy gay romance would be like for Solas. But personally I think both the race and the gender gated attribute fits Solas perfectly, it really does give me the vibe I think they want you to feel, i.e. that he's not really interested in a romance, but fLavellan caught him off guard completely.
Definitely. Solas did not know what he was getting himself into. 
And they paired it evenly, so no complaints from me.
Some people were complaining about the fact female Lavellans, have six possible romance options as opposed to 2 or 4. The only ones you're gated out of are Dorian and Cassandra. Obviously, that includes all M/F and F/F pairings. I did play my Lavellan as bi, but the number of options wasn't why. I was just tired of humans and I felt it was right for the character.
I've seen people comparing him to Imhotep, the villain from "the mummy". No, just No.
But Hitman maybe...
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Well... That's a bit of a turn on.
Definitely. Solas did not know what he was getting himself into.
Some people were complaining about the fact female Lavellans, have six possible romance options as opposed to 2 or 4. The only ones you're gated out of are Dorian and Cassandra. Obviously, that includes all M/F and F/F pairings. I did play my Lavellan as bi, but the number of options wasn't why. I was just tired of humans and I felt it was right for the character.
I would feel sorry for him, but... Fen'Harel. The guy needs no sympathy, he's got a good romance coming no matter what he thinks about the subject.
I can understand their complaints in a way, even though I usually start as an elf always and I'm totally willing to try out a different gender or race (not just to romance someone in particular, but I do take that into serious consideration when making a new PC), but at the same time... it makes sense for all of their characters, and everyone hated DAII for having equal opportunities with everyone regardless of gender. I think it so much better that they design around the given character and not around numbers alone, that this or that gender from this or that race MUST have x number of possible romances. Besides which, it IS realistic that, say, a Qunari or a dwarf, would have difficulty finding a partner who can look past their obviously different racial attributes, they are different enough that they might be exotic to some potential partners yet they might also seem kind of hideous to others, or just awkward. These things matter in real life, even if we consider preference as something to be ashamed of, yet that's the realism everyone was clamoring for. Anyway, to me DAII was a step in a Sims direction, we were playing godly matchmaker more than anything else in that arena, we had the human Hawke persona already worked out and given as the only race option, so it sort of worked. DAII was very Hawke-centric in this regard, measuring how much and in what way each companion approached Hawke, not the other way around, which might be attributable to some basic characteristics that character had built into them from the start. Not very realistic, but in terms of playing out scenarios for a particular hero's tale that focuses on character more than story... well, it might very well not be everyone's cup of tea. I liked DAII (don't kill me please), but I like DAI the most of all of them, because it swings back to following the epic tale more than it follows the epic hero; incidentally this builds our hero and it's a very nuanced point to make, yet it makes a difference.
Not much Solas or Solavellan art for now.
Lovely artwork of Solas with Kestrel's Maiwe Lavellan by karininini.
Solas sketch.
And not Solas but here's a cute fanart of Fenris and Merrill.
And I don't know if this was ever posted here before (it probably was) but here's a beautiful Jaws of Hakkon fanart of Ameridan and Telana.
Not much Solas or Solavellan art for now.
Lovely artwork of Solas with Kestrel's Maiwe Lavellan by karininini.
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Solas sketch.
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And not Solas but here's a cute fanart of Fenris and Merrill.
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And I don't know if this was ever posted here before (it probably was) but here's a beautiful Jaws of Hakkon fanart of Ameridan and Telana.
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While all of them are great...
The Ameridan and Telana one. 
Sometimes I forget that not all of the pictures you link are done by you, and I keep getting flummoxed by your breadth and quantity (and quality) of work.
So, does Ameridan's armor look as great on elfy Inquisitors' as it does on a qunari woman? Do male elves still get the body glitch?
While all of them are great...
The Ameridan and Telana one.
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The artist (shalizeh7) actually did more Ameridan and Telana art. (I think she's the only one who does artworks of the pair?)
Sometimes I forget that not all of the pictures you link are done by you, and I keep getting flummoxed by your breadth and quantity (and quality) of work.
So, does Ameridan's armor look as great on elfy Inquisitors' as it does on a qunari woman? Do male elves still get the body glitch?
LOL, I wish I could draw with such flexibilty, to be honest.
As for Ameridan's armor, not sure on a male elf Inquisitor but here's what it looks on my Lavellan.
Looks pretty cool, in my opinion. xD
While all of them are great...
The Ameridan and Telana one.
Sometimes I forget that not all of the pictures you link are done by you, and I keep getting flummoxed by your breadth and quantity (and quality) of work.
So, does Ameridan's armor look as great on elfy Inquisitors' as it does on a qunari woman? Do male elves still get the body glitch?
I personally think it looks goofy on my dude elf. Ameridan wears it better, imo.
EDIT: ToP Er...one of my screen shots.
Yeah, Ameridan armour doesn't suit my f!Lavellan either. She has quite a long face and long red buzzcut hair and it just looks awkward, plus colour clashing, much like those damn Winter Palace uniforms (still bitter about not being able to wear an Orlesian dress).
That said, Ameridan/Telana really, really warmed my heart (as did the whole quest, really. I think my quizzy had to try hard to stay professional when she realised where the last Inquisitor was from). Genuinely, possibly one of my favourite ships from DA:I. Need more artwork/fanwork of them, those pieces are gorgeous.
Actually, I took off Dude Lavellan's hat and he doesn't look half bad in it.
Full view of him wearing the armor
Having characters gated will limit gameplay experiences but I think it adds realism. Let's face it, people have preferences and whether they're learned or not they do exist. I can't imagine Solas being tempted by another race because I do NOT think he wants to get involved with anyone at all! He can't resist Lavellan because she represents something big. Maybe a dream that the elves can be saved? That modern elves can grow and return to their former greatness? He's inspired and that leads to oooops "did she just say that?" and "did I just say that?" and ugh "it's been like a gabillion years since I made out with a smart cute elf" followed by "UGH I'm in love with her nooooooooo....."
The female gate well...I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with his history or how the story will play out?
Eh. For dev and boring real world reasons - Solas' romance was an easy sell because they only had to do one cinematic and it could be more focused that way. Frankly, if he had been planned as a romance since the beginning it likely would have been more open. Mostly because it's not very FEMALE centric. It would have worked just the same if it was a male Lavellan tbh. That was how I saw it at least. But whatever, it's not.
As for super story reasons...I think as it is now, there isn't any. Solas is straight. The End. There isn't a super story reason to why anyone is what they are. They just are. Same thing with probably preferring elves, tbh. He just does. It makes it more impactful for Lavellan, but him dating anyone is a big deal. I don't think she represents anything other than the person he loves. That's sort of the point. He gets to be selfish for a little bit. Sort of forget that he's got this big looming thing to do. He gets to be normal.
Eh. For dev and boring real world reasons - Solas' romance was an easy sell because they only had to do one cinematic and it could be more focused that way. Frankly, if he had been planned as a romance since the beginning it likely would have been more open. Mostly because it's not very FEMALE centric. It would have worked just the same if it was a male Lavellan tbh. That was how I saw it at least. But whatever, it's not.
As for super story reasons...I think as it is now, there isn't any. Solas is straight. The End. There isn't a super story reason to why anyone is what they are. They just are. Same thing with probably preferring elves, tbh. He just does. It makes it more impactful for Lavellan, but him dating anyone is a big deal. I don't think she represents anything other than the person he loves. That's sort of the point. He gets to be selfish for a little bit. Sort of forget that he's got this big looming thing to do. He gets to be normal.
I don't know why there's this idea that the 'super story reasons' are to do with Lavellan being a woman. I think it's more to do with her being an elf. It's why the romance would work with an m!Lavellan but not other m!Inquisitors. But that's a moot point, since he's straight.
I don't know why there's this idea that the 'super story reasons' are to do with Lavellan being a woman. I think it's more to do with her being an elf. It's why the romance would work with an m!Lavellan but not other m!Inquisitors. But that's a moot point, since he's straight.
Me neither. I think some people read too much into this stuff. As I said, it's important for Lavellan since she's an elf and Solas is...well who he is.(though I will continue to argue that with more time and good writing a human would have been compellng, i can't convince you otherwise and you can't convince me) That's super story reasons. I think SOME people hope/want there to be some sort of magical god-baby or something since she's a women. Frankly, I think they'll be diasppointed. It's not that I think it's bad - it's just that I don't think the devs will go down a "forced" pregnancy path(forced as in the player has no choice). People would flip the eff out. The PR would be bad since there is a big community of Ace, trans, non-binary etc Lavellan-headcanons that romanced Solas. I would be kind of angry actually. My Lavellan is Thedas' Escape from New York era Kurt Russell - SHE GOT NO TIME FOR KIDS!
Me neither. I think some people read too much into this stuff. As I said, it's important for Lavellan since she's an elf and Solas is...well who he is.(though I will continue to argue that with more time and good writing a human would have been compellng, i can't convince you otherwise and you can't convince me) That's super story reasons. I think SOME people hope/want there to be some sort of magical god-baby or something since she's a women. Frankly, I think they'll be diasppointed. It's not that I think it's bad - it's just that I don't think the devs will go down a "forced" pregnancy path(forced as in the player has no choice). People would flip the eff out. The PR would be bad since there is a big community of Ace, trans, non-binary etc Lavellan-headcanons that romanced Solas. I would be kind of angry actually. My Lavellan is Thedas' Escape from New York era Kurt Russell - SHE GOT NO TIME FOR KIDS!
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I agree about the kids thing. While my Lavellan would probably like to have children with Solas, it's not something I'd want forced on the player (especially for those that play their Lavellan as ace). It's far more likely that it's just the fact that she's an elf - a Dalish elf - who changes Solas' mind on modern elves and the Dalish. I think the romance could've still been compelling with a City elf but it would lose part of the impact.
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