*agreement to hide ME spoilers behind spoiler tags for the Unsullied*
*discussion of massive spoilers sans spoiler tags*
It's at moments like these you understand the impulse to mind-blast your spirit friend for his own good.
Oops. Erm, just ignore everything I've said? I'm on my phone and can't fix it atm
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Everyone ignore everything Sable says.
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Everyone ignore everything Sable says.
Everything I HAVE said 
Tense is important!
See, I try to be contrite and I get sass 
BTW, fixed the posts of mine that had massive thpoilerth. So there 
Yesss! captaincaranis posted some more awesome pics!
They opened a Flickr too, but I got the impression from our convos that maybe it is not as user-friendly and convenient as uploading into Tumblr, which is why they might be back up.
thanks folks!
will need to start work on compiling such recent tweets and interview revelation snippets to update the OP. there's been some new info such as the stuff discussed above (not new-new no but new as in recent months) that the OP needs to contain. anything relevant/missing that you know of I request you please throw my way after casting a glance over the OP (PM me or I'll lose track of it in this thread).
also we should start a list of Solasthreadusers who have Tumblrs I'd love to follow you all
They opened a Flickr too, but I got the impression from our convos that maybe it is not as user-friendly and convenient as uploading into Tumblr, which is why they might be back up.
I sent over a short positive note that was like 'happy to see you back' just to add to positive and hopefully help drown out any hate anyone might throw that way.
I've been thinking about where to upload an album of photos lately and no, Flickr works but I don't like it much, so I understand. I might just have to add album software or a photo page to my own website.
RE: the ending I am one of the few people that found it beautiful, poetic and deeply emotional. I found the EC unnecessary and didn't like it. I can see why other people didn't like it but for me it was just perfect. I don't intend to annoy anyone by voicing his opinion, these are my genuine feelings about the ending and I'm writing them to show that some people did like it, even if we are a minority.
The problem most people had with the original ending is how it was complete nonsense. I'm not talking about the story bits after the final push, but how the whole thing wraps up. For sure there are good emotional moments, but overall it lacks any cohesive sensibility.
I can usually spot what a writer was going for in a narrative even if it doesn't entirely deliver, and after watching my husband finish the game the other day I realize I still don't get WTF they were thinking with that. On the bright side, I don't let it take away from my undying love of the series and it remains my favorite to this day. It's an incredible set of games and worth playing at least once.
Solas dislikes any Inquisitor who accepts themselves as the real Herald on Andraste. Partly because he doesn't like people who portray themselves as godly when they're not, especially since he sees it as using people's faith to manipulate them. Partly because he knows you're not because he knows exactly what caused the mark.
As for the Wardens, Solas just doesn't like them and I guess he thinks Ser Ruth deserves some kind of punishment for what she did. People get immediately defensive over Solas' dislike of Wardens but we really don't know what's behind his problem with them yet. I'm assuming he knows something. Maybe we'll find out later.
He seems to care about the Old Gods for some reason.
Personally, I can't imagine why.
Morrigan believes they're only evil in their blighted, Archdemon form. However, their worshippers from before the first Blight were none other than ancient Tevinter society and that hardly is a good sign.
One possibility is that the Old Gods act as seven seals for something even worse, possibly the Blight, and that the Blight's master-plan so to speak isn't to use the darkspawn to corrupt the Old Gods as an end, but an enjoyable side-effect of corrupting them to damage the seals.
That, or they were drinking buddies back in the day. And it's probably uncomfortable to hear of a group of ignorant modern warriors planning to kill a god while he's vulnerable, asleep...
Some art. 
Fen'Harel giving Lavellan his wolf jaw pendant.
Lavellan is going to be in so much trouble after this. xD
I only dream of you, my beautiful...
Lavellan wearing the Token of the Packmaster. Or, meta-trolling the Dread Wolf.
Straight.
Nice Solas doodle.
Solas wearing the Avvar armor but wants his sweaters back.
A Jurassic World parody.
Cute Solas art.
Solas and Fen'Harel.
Solas, Dorian, and Cole.
Solas wearing the Avvar armor but wants his sweaters back.
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Nope, Solas, you stay like this forever.
One possibility is that the Old Gods act as seven seals for something even worse, possibly the Blight, and that the Blight's master-plan so to speak isn't to use the darkspawn to corrupt the Old Gods as an end, but an enjoyable side-effect of corrupting them to damage the seals.
That, or they were drinking buddies back in the day. And it's probably uncomfortable to hear of a group of ignorant modern warriors planning to kill a god while he's vulnerable, asleep...
I favor the seven seals theory myself - where the Old Gods have a mote or a wisp of either the Elven Creators, or the Forgotten Ones inside them like Corypheus' horcrux dragon, and they used this thin thread of power through the Old God dragons to call out to susceptible people like the Magisters from beyond the eluvians they're stuck behind. Then they got the Magisters to come to the Black City (which is tainted Arlathan trapped in the Fade), the Magisters probably touched their tainted eluvians or "gates" (similar to what happened to Tamlen) and brought the taint out into the world (again). Of course, then you somehow get hordes of darkspawn, then Archdemon horcrux dragon's seal is broken, weakening the prisons and ultimately goes on a rampage, because there's a pissed off Elven God driving it.
So, if the Old Gods being imprisoned is a major part of the Creators/Forgotten Ones staying imprisoned I could see Solas having a major issue with them being killed, tainted, or released. Even moreso, if the Veil is part of the prison, and them getting out would cause it to collapse (though there's also a chance that the Veil is part of something else that we don't know about yet, and Solas does want to collapse it).
*swoops in*
*steals tiny flag*
*hands you a big flag*
*swoops out*
Swooping is bad
*starts running around waving big flag*
The problem most people had with the original ending is how it was complete nonsense. I'm not talking about the story bits after the final push, but how the whole thing wraps up. For sure there are good emotional moments, but overall it lacks any cohesive sensibility.
*snip*
I can see why other people didn't like it, but however understandable your reasons I just don't share them.
Swooping is bad
*starts running around waving big flag*
Why? You fear barbarians will swoop down upon you?
Have you guys seen the interview with Patrick and Karin Weekes? They don't really talk about anything game specific, just about how they started working for Bioware and about writing for video games. It is really really interesting! (also you might want to skip the first 30 minutes of Sad Puppy related talk between the hosts if you are not following Hugo Awards shenanigans). Also this interview is just Part 1! *excited*
https://twitter.com/...044303686807552
thanks folks!
will need to start work on compiling such recent tweets and interview revelation snippets to update the OP. there's been some new info such as the stuff discussed above (not new-new no but new as in recent months) that the OP needs to contain. anything relevant/missing that you know of I request you please throw my way after casting a glance over the OP (PM me or I'll lose track of it in this thread).
also we should start a list of Solasthreadusers who have Tumblrs I'd love to follow you all
Feel free to add me if you want, I am DustyTulip on Tumblr as well. I use it mainly to keep track to all awesome Dragon Age artwork/theories, and don't really post anything myself, so I am probably (definitely ) not exciting! But would love to follow you!
One possibility is that the Old Gods act as seven seals for something even worse, possibly the Blight, and that the Blight's master-plan so to speak isn't to use the darkspawn to corrupt the Old Gods as an end, but an enjoyable side-effect of corrupting them to damage the seals.
That, or they were drinking buddies back in the day. And it's probably uncomfortable to hear of a group of ignorant modern warriors planning to kill a god while he's vulnerable, asleep...
But if the Old Gods are acting as seals for the Blight, then what we've seen are mini-Blights?
But if the Old Gods are acting as seals for the Blight, then what we've seen are mini-Blights?
Sort of, I guess? Not as wonderful as mini-Oreos, sure, but still pretty memorable?
I think I'm taking a page out of Madrar's book and speculating that there's some bigger force behind the Blight, with some suspects being Elgar'nan, the Sun that Elgie overthrew, the Forgotten Ones, or something we haven't heard of. So a fully fledged Oreo in this case would be the typical Blight, but without a serpent to decapitate. A Blight with red lyrium growing everywhere at an accelerated rate, and gods being infected instead of a possibly divine dragon.
The Seals thing comes from dragons being referred to as 'the pillars of the earth' by Yavana, and Flemeth and her daughters' intense interest in preserving the dragons and being able to reawaken the Great Ones.
Sort of, I guess? Not as wonderful as mini-Oreos, sure, but still pretty memorable?
This is bound to be the Quote of the Day
I like your Blight-Oreo theory; maybe then Solas' plans have to do with preserving the remaining Old Gods (two IIRC?) rather than doing something with the Elven Pantheon as we have been theorising. Perhaps it will be a race against the disappeared Wardens for reaching the last Old Gods, while Elgar'nan and friends try to scape their prison? Talk about stressful situations.
Sort of, I guess? Not as wonderful as mini-Oreos, sure, but still pretty memorable?
I think I'm taking a page out of Madrar's book and speculating that there's some bigger force behind the Blight, with some suspects being Elgar'nan, the Sun that Elgie overthrew, the Forgotten Ones, or something we haven't heard of. So a fully fledged Oreo in this case would be the typical Blight, but without a serpent to decapitate. A Blight with red lyrium growing everywhere at an accelerated rate, and gods being infected instead of a possibly divine dragon.
The Seals thing comes from dragons being referred to as 'the pillars of the earth' by Yavana, and Flemeth and her daughters' intense interest in preserving the dragons and being able to reawaken the Great Ones.
Now I want Oreos.
Swooping is bad
*starts running around waving big flag*
I can see why other people didn't like it, but however understandable your reasons I just don't share them.
Spoiler
This. So much this.
Aaaand on-topic, Solas is totally Javik in my books. I really don't get why Javik got such a lukewarm reception... I adore that character in every way possible. 
Sort of, I guess? Not as wonderful as mini-Oreos, sure, but still pretty memorable?
I think I'm taking a page out of Madrar's book and speculating that there's some bigger force behind the Blight, with some suspects being Elgar'nan, the Sun that Elgie overthrew, the Forgotten Ones, or something we haven't heard of. So a fully fledged Oreo in this case would be the typical Blight, but without a serpent to decapitate. A Blight with red lyrium growing everywhere at an accelerated rate, and gods being infected instead of a possibly divine dragon.
The Seals thing comes from dragons being referred to as 'the pillars of the earth' by Yavana, and Flemeth and her daughters' intense interest in preserving the dragons and being able to reawaken the Great Ones.
A Blight cascade... that's what was initiated. Like all the nerve cells in a brain going dark one by one, cascade failure, causing the entire, um, oreo to collapse. (Does it have to be oreos? I'm not allowed to eat those anymore. *sniff*) It actually reminds me of a highly unpleasant element of my life: it starts simple enough, slightly unpleasant, then it gets locked into a cycle which cannot be broken until it wrought its havoc, yet getting rid of the issues that crop up because of that, the, er, wounds get torn again and it all starts over again!
Yeah, I'm at the rambling phase of the evening. I'm still a ball of tears over certain events in Witcher 3 which makes me unstable.
This. So much this.
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Aaaand on-topic, Solas is totally Javik in my books. I really don't get why Javik got such a lukewarm reception... I adore that character in every way possible.
Ohhhh so much
Except for the
I love Javik to pieces, too. You have to
Aaaand on-topic, Solas is totally Javik in my books. I really don't get why Javik got such a lukewarm reception... I adore that character in every way possible.
I adored Javik too! He shot up to one of my favorite characters in the series. Solas reminds me of him in a few ways, but honestly Solas is three times more complex than Javik, in my eyes. Which means he's completely awesome. He's not perfect in the least and he has a huge amount of flaws but that's what makes a character great! For an elven "god" boasting a lifespan of thousands of years, he's painfully human. Basically I like him for reasons most people seem to dislike him. I was never in for this trend that a character has to do nothing wrong in order for you to feel good about liking them and that determining who is a better character is about determining who did less wrong.
Then again, I don't think Solas is nearly as bad a person as some people make him out to be. It seems like some people read way too much bad into every single thing about him and I kind of feel bad for them because I feel like they're missing out on a lot about him. I may not adore every BioWare companion but I always understand them and where they're coming from, which means I'm never able to really dislike any of them.
I adored Javik too! He shot up to one of my favorite characters in the series. Solas reminds me of him in a few ways, but honestly Solas is three times more complex than Javik, in my eyes. Which means he's completely awesome. He's not perfect in the least and he has a huge amount of flaws but that's what makes a character great! For an elven "god" boasting a lifespan of thousands of years, he's painfully human. Basically I like him for reasons most people seem to dislike him. I was never in for this trend that a character has to do nothing wrong in order for you to feel good about liking them and that determining who is a better character is about determining who did less wrong.
So much this. Some of my favorite characters ever are no-kidding villains. Jon Irenicus, for example, is possibly one of the worst pieces of work I've encountered in a video game. He's still a fascinating character, and Baldur's Gate 2 would have been a much-diminished game without him. While there is something to be said about the Draco in Leather Pants phenomenon in fandom, I think a lot of people who like BioWare's characters like them because of how very human their flaws are, without trying to excuse them.
I get very nervous about introducing myself to new people, and I don't even know if new people on this thread normally introduce themselves or whatever, so I'm just gonna wing it.
Hi I'm Meg and Solas ruined my life! Hello! I assume most of us have that in common.
It feels so awkward and out of place just jumping into this but help I've fallen (into Solas hell) and I can't get up
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