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[MayriyaNoori]

It's gunna be Solas, but at the same time I'm really hoping its Dirthamen/Falon'Din. I've waited long enough. My body is ready. 
 

Mmm....I want to see Dirthamen. Ancient elf god beast mode of Leliana. Yes. Just yes.

[Elessara]

Well none of that would've happened if Solas didn't give his orb to cory. 

 

 

I don't agree with that actually.  I don't see Cory sitting around, twiddling his thumbs and then getting the orb and having a light bulb go off in his head.  It's entirely likely he was planning on the demon army invasion of Orlais and the restoration of the Tevinter Imperium before he got the orb.  The orb gave him a means to go into the Fade but he has the power of the Blight and the red lyrium even without the orb.

[Niamaduir]

As Cole says "You didn't do it to be right. You did it to save them".

 

Now, "them" isn't completely clear as it could refer to the gods but the People (elves) can apply if he was saving them from the threat of potentially blighted gods losing it, among other things.

 

Started it all, if real, is vague. The actions of one or more could've started it all in triggering Fen'Harel to act in the first place. He didn't just seal them all away on a whim.

 

I think there are multiple possibilities if this is a real leak. 

 

This. Everything is speculation right now. What I would love is for them to give context to Mythal's whole angry statements about a reckoning and something happening that "was never suppose to happen". Given what Abelas says in the Temple of Mythal, my money is on whoever murdered Mythal being at the heart of everything that has happened in Thedas. Of course at this point, this post is pure speculation, but my thoughts are that whatever Solas did to the Elven Pantheon was in part a reaction to what happened to Mythal. But because it may have been a bit of a knee jerk reaching, as much as something can be when we are talking about immortal beings, he did not fully account for all the possible outcomes. He thought "he knew everything" and that what he did was the best thing for the People.

 

Just played What Pride Had Wrought- finally, I think I was avoiding it just so I could still headcannon in happy Solas/Lavellan coupledom. I might just have to run through again with Eleri, my archer who has been languishing as pure concept, just so I can yell at Solas at the end of the Crestwood scene. She would get mad, her sister went for the broken hearted lingering. And I totally went to the Black Emporium afterwards and chopped off her hair. Maybe it's the weird Fade lighting, but she looks really annoyed. 

 

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Also, listening to Dido's White Flag... and now headcannoning it as a duet between Solas and Lavallen in a modern AU setting...ugh too many things to write, it's a good thing but I feel like I am hopping between too many ideas to actually finish anything

[Uirebhiril]

Of course they're completely different at the same time. Mordin is probably my favourite new companion from ME2, actually - he manages to both be incredibly light-hearted half the time (Gilbert & Sullivan, anyone?), as well as having a great deal of complexity underneath that - his loyalty quest is one of the most interesting, as you see him try and account for his guilt despite his (seemingly) unrepentant justification of his actions.

 

I will never be okay. Ever.

 

Going to agree though, Mordin is an awesome character that manages to bring together complex ideas and beliefs while still being someone you can befriend and relate to. He has his deep convictions, and when push comes to shove does not waver from his path and choices. He gives one of the most impassioned speeches in his arc that I have ever heard from a video game character. Mordin and Solas having the same writer makes me believe that no matter how the story ends up for Solas, he will be well taken care of. 

 

Don't let us down, Weekes!

[Ulv Elskeren]

Having now met Mordin (yet to start ME3 so can't speak for Javik), I definitely agree. They both take the same character archetype - they're both technical experts in their respective fields, i.e. massive nerds - and spin it in a similar way, by being genuinely compassionate people who take ethics very seriously. They both respectively have ethical demons from their past they struggle to deal with - Mordin with the genophage, Solas with whatever screw-up he managed in order to destroy elven society, although they deal with them in completely different ways. I usually expect the scientist/historian/academic types to be either nasty or cold - neither of which you could say of the two Solii. Got very similar vibes from meeting them both.

 

Of course they're completely different at the same time. Mordin is probably my favourite new companion from ME2, actually - he manages to both be incredibly light-hearted half the time (Gilbert & Sullivan, anyone?), as well as having a great deal of complexity underneath that - his loyalty quest is one of the most interesting, as you see him try and account for his guilt despite his (seemingly) unrepentant justification of his actions. Solas is nothing like that, of course - much more serious on the surface (although his humour occasionally breaks through that), and his character is probably heading in a much darker direction overall, I reckon. And whilst Solas regrets what happens, I don't think he's apologetic about his long term goals, or what he does at all.

 

Oh man... tough to respond to this without spoilers.  All I can say is that the parallels definitely continue in ME3:

 

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Compare the way Mordin explains his change of heart- "I made a mistake... Focused on big picture. Big picture made of little pictures. Too many variables. Can't hide behind statistics. Can't ignore new data." with DA's Solavellan revelation: "You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything, but it can't."

 

In each case, it's a moment of moral epiphany- a lightning bolt that changes the way they see the world and forces them to reevaluate their path.  It's why, I think, the Solavellan flag is going to be a critical plot point.  Lavellan is the catalyst that (potentially) changes ME2 Solus-Solas into ME3 Solus-Solas.  She sparks his conscience, his emotional connection to the here-and-now.

 

Not that the parallel bodes well for Solas' survivability.  ...but surely Weekes wouldn't do that to us again.

 

...right?

[Cee]

Mordin's loyalty quest in ME2 is the best one in the game, IMO. It shows some of the true depths of his character. I had already loved Mordin by that point, but the emotional punch of that mission, in a place that's relatively quiet and more reflective than anything, it is one of the reasons I have a great deal of trust in Patrick Weekes and characters.

 

When I see the "don't ruin Solas" worriers, I don't worry about that at all. Do I think we might get another direct hit in the feels? Quite possible. Will it be bad or ruin Solas? I don't think so at all.

[Cee]

I don't agree with that actually.  I don't see Cory sitting around, twiddling his thumbs and then getting the orb and having a light bulb go off in his head.  It's entirely likely he was planning on the demon army invasion of Orlais and the restoration of the Tevinter Imperium before he got the orb.  The orb gave him a means to go into the Fade but he has the power of the Blight and the red lyrium even without the orb.

 

His plans were in the works for a while. A couple of years. I think it's implied in notes you can find.

 

 

This. Everything is speculation right now. What I would love is for them to give context to Mythal's whole angry statements about a reckoning and something happening that "was never suppose to happen". Given what Abelas says in the Temple of Mythal, my money is on whoever murdered Mythal being at the heart of everything that has happened in Thedas. Of course at this point, this post is pure speculation, but my thoughts are that whatever Solas did to the Elven Pantheon was in part a reaction to what happened to Mythal. But because it may have been a bit of a knee jerk reaching, as much as something can be when we are talking about immortal beings, he did not fully account for all the possible outcomes. He thought "he knew everything" and that what he did was the best thing for the People.

 

All of this, yes. There are way too many threads and things left unaddressed just yet to be clear or anything simple. I also think Mythal's murder may have had something to do with it, as a trigger in some way. Bits and hints we have point to Andruil being blighted, Falon'Din being a real piece of work, Mythal betrayed and murdered.

 

The Forgotten Ones. Hey Geldauran's Claim codex.

 

They have a lot to work with. And I expect at least some of this to be addressed sooner rather than later, especially if we truly are going north for DA4.

 

 

Also, listening to Dido's White Flag... and now headcannoning it as a duet between Solas and Lavallen in a modern AU setting...ugh too many things to write, it's a good thing but I feel like I am hopping between too many ideas to actually finish anything

 

That's how I feel. I've been kind of semi-developing a modern AU in my head, meanwhile I've been trying to write some Solavellan intimacy and keep getting tripped up on a scene transition (or whether to change the order or even scrap part of it).

 

[MayriyaNoori]

Maybe whoever got left in the Fade, will accidentally trip the lock on a mysterious eluvian and accidentally free them...goddammit Hawke...

This.

 

Spoiler

Believe this came from here.

 

 

Also, to keep this elves...and Solas.....and...

 

I think the statement "the one who started it all" is way to vague. "All" needs to be defined before any finger pointing begins. And there are several "All"s in the world of Thedas that have people looking around going "WTF?!?!"

 

Our dear Solas is terribly good at making epic mistakes....but surely not all of the problems in Thedas are his doing.If they are, WTF Bioware! Cut this character some slack!

 

On another note. I would also be pleased to see June.

 

Forget it, just show me the entire pantheon in all their Blighted Ancient Elf glory.

[Solas]

As long as the music keeps going, we dance  #imperfectlyrememberedflemethquotes

[Cee]

^ Some DLC would be nice, though.

[Illyria]

Thoughts on fandom's mixed reactions to Solas, and (mostly) my own thoughts on Solas [x]

 

This isn't to do with your post but I can't be bothered in looking back through several pages to find your post so I can quote that.

 

So...

 

http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/532/?

 

That's the face texture.  It's texture 1.

 

This is pages back now, but I want to hug each and every person who suggested Citadel as a must-have DLC.  I never played any of the ME ones, since I was out of the BW loop back then, and had no idea they existed.

 

Completely amaaaaaaazing.   Thematically perfect as 'shore leave' from the heaviness of the main plot- my cheeks actually started to hurt around the 45 minute mark.

 

Anyway!  To keep this from being totally off-topic, my vote is Solas -> Solus.  He and Javik may share a similar crotchety, cane-waving "kids these days" perspective, but that's about it.  Javik's an utterly unapologetic ends-justify-the-means type of guy, while Solas is far more nuanced.  The two Solii, on the other hand, have the same fundamentally gray moral underpinnings, sharp, incisive analytical minds, and (of course) a crushing sense of personal responsibility for actions they took in their youth which they thought were for the best at the time, but turned out making things worse.

 

I just hope the parallels end there.  I wasn't expecting Weekes' little after-party present, so there was a period of horrible, unladylike laugh-sobbing while I had to try to explain to my husband "no, really, I'm ok... it's just goddamn Mordin".

 

Solas=Solus does make a lot of sense.  He was my second thought after Javik.  Both of them made questionable choices in the past and are looking for the chance to atone.

 

It's gunna be Solas, but at the same time I'm really hoping its Dirthamen/Falon'Din. I've waited long enough. My body is ready. 

 

 

Still gonna laugh when the gods aren't what you pictured.

 

Because I'm evil.

[Illyria]

This.

 

Spoiler

Believe this came from here.

 

 

Replace Anders with Fenris and that's my headcanon right there.

[Niamaduir]

This.

 

Spoiler

Believe this came from here.

 

 

Also, to keep this elves...and Solas.....and...

 

I think the statement "the one who started it all" is way to vague. "All" needs to be defined before any finger pointing begins. And there are several "All"s in the world of Thedas that have people looking around going "WTF?!?!"

 

Our dear Solas is terribly good at making epic mistakes....but surely not all of the problems in Thedas are his doing.If they are, WTF Bioware! Cut this character some slack!

 

On another note. I would also be pleased to see June.

 

Forget it, just show me the entire pantheon in all their Blighted Ancient Elf glory.

 

Firstly that comic is great, I loved the Monty Python reference. 

 

Secondly, the "All" is vague but given what Mythal says, I have this nagging feeling that modern Thedas is the result of something major happening that could be attributed to a group or singular person. Though I am split on whether it was one big rock that got tossed into the cosmic pond, as it were, or a medium sized rock followed by a bunch of smaller reactionary rocks, the ripples are still being felt today. But they do have a lot of loose end and it would be awfully too neat and tidy of them to tie everything up in one nice big bow. Unless they do have a set # of games planned out, which I did not think they did. Given the way Solas acts in game and all the hints, I am leaning towards medium rock though.

[MayriyaNoori]

Oooo....can you imagine a Black City DLC?!?!? =o

 

I mean, Solas shows up and is all like "Hey, I'm Fen'Harel and reason, reason, explaining, explaining, The Fade.... So.....I need to get into the Black City and you're the only one who can do that. You in?"

 

*jumps on the crazy*

 

I'd do it. I'm no better than the Magisters. I'd do it.

[Ulv Elskeren]

The leaked survey details don't seem to jive with the idea of a Deep Roads DLC, though.  Is the theory that deep roads comes first, and survey would be the final DAI release?

 

I keep hearing rumblings about July 7th.  Trying not to get my hopes up.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Did anyone else feel there was a terrible poignancy when talking with Ameridan?     I chose the response "It takes everything from you".    For any Lavellan that sort of rings true but in the case of one who is romancing Solas it really is heart breaking the similarities, whether you go there with Solas (what would have been going through his mind at that point?) or after he has left.     My girl still hasn't recovered from the loss; I don't think she ever will.    Unless of course we do get a DLC where all is made clear to her and we reach some sort of conclusion/understanding.    

 

Yeah, I picked that too.

 

Never mind Solas, the whole situation gave me all the feels.  My Lavellan never wanted any of this either.  She's naturally a rather shy person who hates the spotlight and especially the pseudo-divinity ascribed to her.  But like Ameridan, there was no one else, and she couldn't forswear the duty of the Inquisitor.  She is trapped by it, surely as the spell binding Ameridan.  And while she's come to grips with it by the end of Inquisition, I think there will always be a difference between someone who answered the call willingly, and someone who had no choice.

[Vorathrad]

This.

 

Spoiler

Believe this came from here.

 

 

Forget it, just show me the entire pantheon in all their Blighted Ancient Elf glory.

 

Yes, please!!

 

And that comic is fantastic, pure Hawke

[Cee]

Yeah, I picked that too.

 

Never mind Solas, the whole situation gave me all the feels.  My Lavellan never wanted any of this either.  She's naturally a rather shy person who hates the spotlight and especially the pseudo-divinity ascribed to her.  But like Ameridan, there was no one else, and she couldn't forswear the duty of the Inquisitor.  She is trapped by it, surely as the spell binding Ameridan.  And while she's come to grips with it by the end of Inquisition, I think there will always be a difference between someone who answered the call willingly, and someone who had no choice.

 

I chose that response as well. The whole experience has been overwhelming in its own way, even though she has gotten used to it all by the end, there was this idea that she would do this and then go back to her life but she steadily realizes that just isn't going to be possible now. I think, in playing JoH pre-Doom Upon All the World, it lends itself to her sort of making that final realization that this is her life now, inevitably. Though it also works extremely well as a post-game line too.

 

Even if she decided to return to her clan tomorrow, there would be threats, fanatics, problems, and just ditching the Inquisition would likely destabilize all the work they've done. Then we drag in this 'divinely chosen' angle she has always rejected but people push anyway.

[dawnstone]

The leaked survey details don't seem to jive with the idea of a Deep Roads DLC, though.  Is the theory that deep roads comes first, and survey would be the final DAI release?

 

I keep hearing rumblings about July 7th.  Trying not to get my hopes up.

In the past they've released DLC about every three months, so the next one should be out in July if they're following that pattern. I think that one will be the Deep Roads/Dwarven lore/Grey Warden one (if you check out the Twitter thread in Scuttlebutt the devs are currently crunching on something!).

 

The Solas/Elven related DLC that seems to be associated with the marketing survey that's going round, seems like it will be the very last DLC - which if again, going by past release schedules, may come out sometime in the Fall if we're lucky. The whole point of the survey is to determine how to market the expansion (which given even the small amount of info they're offering looks to be extensive. Like, I don't know how they'd wrap up that many plot points under 30 hours). All speculation of course, but it seems logical to me that you'd get marketing info before you decided how to approach a project, to predict how people react to what you potentially have to offer, and what sort of wording gets people excited.

[MayriyaNoori]

Yeah, I picked that too.
 
Never mind Solas, the whole situation gave me all the feels.  My Lavellan never wanted any of this either.  She's naturally a rather shy person who hates the spotlight and especially the pseudo-divinity ascribed to her.  But like Ameridan, there was no one else, and she couldn't forswear the duty of the Inquisitor.  She is trapped by it, surely as the spell binding Ameridan.  And while she's come to grips with it by the end of Inquisition, I think there will always be a difference between someone who answered the call willingly, and someone who had no choice.

This. I know we all beg for more Solas content...but sometimes I really feel this comes down a little more to me wanting more conent for my character. Because at the end of Inquisition....I was overall sad for my Lavellan. Solas is a huge part of that.....but the whole situation at the end is sad. Her clan is dead(yeah, that happened in my first playthrough...I was like "for realz BW?!?), Solas is gone, ancient elves called her a shadow and that she is not one of the People, and at the end of everyday she has to hear some non sense about being some divine sent rep for Andraste. My poor character needs a serious morale boost.

And now I have been playing around on a Cullen romancing pro-Chantry human......and it is like a whole different story. It helps me......but my poor Lavellan is still sitting on her balcony alone. And mega sad.

[Solas]

Thanks so much illyria!

[Illyria]

Thanks so much illyria!

 

That's the skin texture I'm using at the moment.  Teamed up with the short undercut hair and my Lavellan looks badass but also adorable.

[Solas]

Badass is the name of the game (for mine!) cheers again. Cant wait to tinker when im home

[Illyria]

Badass is the name of the game (for mine!) cheers again. Cant wait to tinker when im home

 

Just remember that there's an issue with the BE and skin texture mods (crashing, freezing, refusing to load the BE at all).  You'll need to go into the BE, change your texture to the third along (that one is picked to replace because only one NPC uses it) and then install the mod.

[Cee]

I think we're overdue:

 

From http://liberaquantob...st/121501636958

 

 

And I saw this set she posted of Sera and damn.