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Just watch, Andruil started it all by hunting in the Void.

 

I don't know why but even with as little as we know about the Pantheon....for some reason Andruil bothers me. The rest of them I want to see and know more about. Falon'Din is kinda creepy also......but not as bad. I mean sure he slaughtered who knows how many people just to get his way....but there's that cute fluffy story of him helping that deer. Andruil just comes off as crazy everywhere. And a very scary kind of crazy.

 

So from now on I will blame Andruil for it all.


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Still gonna laugh when the gods aren't what you pictured.

 

Because I'm evil.

 

I don't really care what they look like. They can be as blighted and warped as ****, but their aesthetic of being real ancient elvhen gods, immortal beings, vain and obsessed, demanding blood sacrifices, driving the world to destruction, being powerful as ****...will always be 100% above mere mortals, and the dread wolf...Would bang all the way to Void any day. Regardless of looks. 

 

 

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Just watch, Andruil started it all by hunting in the Void.

 

I don't know why but even with as little as we know about the Pantheon....for some reason Andruil bothers me. The rest of them I want to see and know more about. Falon'Din is kinda creepy also......but not as bad. I mean sure he slaughtered who knows how many people just to get his way....but there's that cute fluffy story of him helping that deer. Andruil just comes off as crazy everywhere. And a very scary kind of crazy.

 

So from now on I will blame Andruil for it all.

 

You have to remember that 99% of Dalish "stories" are not fully true. So at this point there's no telling what they are going to do with the Pantheon. 

 

There are also the Forgotten Ones that everyone always forgets about...


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Documented things Solas steals:

 

Gear

Hearts

Eyebrows :P


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Second part of the interview with Karin and Patrick Weeks, if anyone is interested  :)

 

https://twitter.com/...353305397460992


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Just watch, Andruil started it all by hunting in the Void.

 

I don't know why but even with as little as we know about the Pantheon....for some reason Andruil bothers me. The rest of them I want to see and know more about. Falon'Din is kinda creepy also......but not as bad. I mean sure he slaughtered who knows how many people just to get his way....but there's that cute fluffy story of him helping that deer. Andruil just comes off as crazy everywhere. And a very scary kind of crazy.

 

So from now on I will blame Andruil for it all.

 

According to Solas Falon'Din engaged in bloody warfare to get more followers.  So... he's a jerk.


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According to Solas Falon'Din engaged in bloody warfare to get more followers.  So... he's a jerk.

And the tale of Andruil and the Void is in the Temple of Mythal, which I'm assuming is legit.. And Solas seems disapproving of Dirthamen and Falon'din in particular. Dirthamen has his Temple and followers, who weren't the most..friendly of sorts.

June, Ghilain'nain, Elgar'nan, and Sylvaise don't get as much mention from him.

But boy howdy, Ghilain'nain is a little disturbing with the experiments, and Sylvaise's Song is terrifyingly unstable in the best tradition of jealousy and hubris.


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My personal speculation at the moment is that most if not all of the pantheon were in some way pretty tyrannical feudal dicks. 

 

even June

omg oh no i didnt  :D

 

just personal speculation tho. for some of them there's obvious stuff in the lore (although obviously some of the lore is tales we don't know the truth behind etc) - Andruil and Falon'din are obvious or example. for others there's less or next to nothing but still like i said

 

even June.


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Art again. :P

 

Ellana is not prepared for motherhood. (It's not what you think.)

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Lavellan wants Solas to tell her more about his journeys in the Fade.

 

Solace. xD

 

Message Sent!Solas with his car (and phone, of course).

 

Solas portrait.

 

Solas doodle.

 

Summer Solas.

 

Lavellan reminds Varric of someone.

 

Happy self insert weekend stuff again.


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Just watch, Andruil started it all by hunting in the Void.

 

I don't know why but even with as little as we know about the Pantheon....for some reason Andruil bothers me. The rest of them I want to see and know more about. Falon'Din is kinda creepy also......but not as bad. I mean sure he slaughtered who knows how many people just to get his way....but there's that cute fluffy story of him helping that deer. Andruil just comes off as crazy everywhere. And a very scary kind of crazy.

 

So from now on I will blame Andruil for it all.

Agreed. Something about her is creepysawce. And we've never even met her! Yet....

 

My personal speculation at the moment is that most if not all of the pantheon were in some way pretty tyrannical feudal dicks. 

 

even June

omg oh no i didnt  :D

 

just personal speculation tho. for some of them there's obvious stuff in the lore (although obviously some of the lore is tales we don't know the truth behind etc) - Andruil and Falon'din are obvious or example. for others there's less or next to nothing but still like i said

 

even June.

I speculate that June crafted the armor of the void. And possibly the tyrannical dick mantle. Either/Or. lol

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Second part of the interview with Karin and Patrick Weeks, if anyone is interested  :)

 

https://twitter.com/...353305397460992

Thank you..I've been looking forward to this. :D


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Still gonna laugh when the gods aren't what you pictured.

 

Because I'm evil.

You do know, noone actually thinks the Pantheon is going to look like they came out of a disco that went on for thousands of years. That's idiotic.  It's a hyperbole and a joke.  We also just like posting gifs of Velvet Goldmine and the one guy from Little Britain in too small booty shorts(JUUUUNNNE). 

 

I'm going to post Giton's explanation as to what her and our theory of the "Glitter Pantheon" is. Again.

 

http://vhenantrash.t...er-pantheon-why

 

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Just watch, Andruil started it all by hunting in the Void.

 

I don't know why but even with as little as we know about the Pantheon....for some reason Andruil bothers me. The rest of them I want to see and know more about. Falon'Din is kinda creepy also......but not as bad. I mean sure he slaughtered who knows how many people just to get his way....but there's that cute fluffy story of him helping that deer. Andruil just comes off as crazy everywhere. And a very scary kind of crazy.

 

So from now on I will blame Andruil for it all.

I actually found her codex entries quite sad.  It's clear she was lucid at some point and corrupted by the Void.   I don't think the Pantheon is going to be the one-note evil that the fandom appears to be making it out to be. I actually think they'll be quite depressing in various ways.  They fell from grace by their own hand. Likely due their own indulgence in excess and power.  It's probably going to be really tragic. Solas seems to still grieve for them.


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You do know, noone actually thinks the Pantheon is going to look like they came out of a disco that went on for thousands of years. That's idiotic.  It's a hyperbole and a joke.  We also just like posting gifs of Velvet Goldmine and the one guy from Little Britain in too small booty shorts(JUUUUNNNE). 

 

I'm going to post Giton's explanation as to what her and our theory of the "Glitter Pantheon" is. Again.

 

http://vhenantrash.t...er-pantheon-why

 

Spoiler

 

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I actually found her codex entries quite sad.  It's clear she was lucid at some point and corrupted by the Void.   I don't think the Pantheon is going to be the one-note evil that the fandom appears to be making it out to be. I actually think they'll be quite depressing in various ways.  They fell from grace by their own hand. Likely due their own indulgence in excess and power.  It's probably going to be really tragic. Solas seems to still grieve for them.

I really hope that the pantheon don't all share the same evil for the sake of evil personality. If they are freed and take part in a future game or dlc I would like them to be individuals, some good, some bad, some in between. I'd like to be able to ally with some to take down others and stuff like that. 


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I really hope that the pantheon don't all share the same evil for the sake of evil personality. If they are freed and take part in a future game or dlc I would like them to be individuals, some good, some bad, some in between. I'd like to be able to ally with some to take down others and stuff like that. 

My alleigiance lies totally with June! If he asked me to drown the world in blood, I'd be like "WOO HOO, LET'S GO!!!"  But I am on a sexy, un-dead magical lords kick right now.

Wild Hunt? - YES PLEASE!!( I just played through the Kaer Mohen battle and that priest guy that fights Eskel...*fans self*)

 

The White Walkers? - YES PLEASE!!

 

But  yes, I agree.  I think they will be complicated and I think it will be difficult to totally hate all of them. 


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It's going to be really crazy if they show up and yes they are evil....but for some reason or another we hear their side of things and somehow understand them.

 

I definitely think Andruil and Falon'Din were top of the list for being crazy though. Falon'Din is just one notch below. Not by a large notch. Just one.

 

And sometimes I wonder if June had anything to do with the Dwarves/Titans because of the whole crafting thing.

 

I do know that it is going to be a sad day for the Dalish if the pantheon does show up, they are completely and total crazy tyrants and they just outright claim followers based on the vallaslin each Dalish put on their face.

 

Or, can you imagine if just having that image on one's face acted like a rune or something that could be activated by the god it represented and they just run around forcing Dalish to follow.

 

I can see this happening because let's face it, Dalish have terrible luck.

 

And to bring things back around to Solas I had an interesting thought. So, Solas often says something like "I saw it in the Fade" or "In my research into" as a means of saying "Yeah, I know this because I'm from Ancient times". Well, it got me thinking about Cole's quest where he was asking Solas to bind him to keep him safe and so you go off to find the amulet and everything. Solas is the one to bring up the whole amulet idea with a "I have heard of mages somewhere in-". I translate this Solas as "I'm a mage who has done this before."

 

And surely we all know the theory out there that the Pantheon were actually spirits that took physical form to be among the elves. Which, in theory, would mean that somehow way back in the day Solas/Fen'Harel was actually a spirit that took elven form and has been in that form since this happened.

 

So, that would make the jawbone necklace he wears his amulet. Total craziness idea, but there it is.


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Exactly because he willingly gave the orb as Flemeth says in the end and he does not even deny it. He did not need to give it to Cory. Even if Cory had planned it all already.. we all know his main goal and he wouldn't have been able to do anything without the orb.. plus we do not exactly know what happened in the past with the elves.. why the gods got sealed away etc. What happened? We do not know... but we do know that if Solas hadn't given the orb to cory. The mark would not have appeared on inkys hand. There would be no breach and therefore there would not have been this kind of story.. so Solas did ''start it all'' plus it makes sense as you say because they left the ending so open.. Solas is going to act.. he is going to do something... he took the power of mythal... we do not know what he is going to do.. but he definetely is going to do something which leads to the fact that inky and other companions are going to go seek for him (I think by not knowing that the one they are seeking is Solas) and when they find him.. everything for lavellan could be made clear.. finally. I am just assuming and also hoping this. I want to know the dread wolf's plan. 

I think there can be various reasons why elven gods got sealed away. Maybe Solas did that to save either them or the people. Maybe they got sealed away willingly or Solas tricked them or used force to seal them. Anyway I think he did something or at least he had a big role in that. Because of that I think it's unlikely that we are going to see elven gods without Solas and like you said he is going to do something and I think it would be odd if we wouldn't see the outcome of that.

 

I hope that Solas comes back to Lavellan :) But I'm fine if my Lavallan have to find him. On the other hand this scares me because I'm afraid that the relationship will end badly and I can't do anything about it and I don't want that to happen but on the other hand I want to know what happens. And I want him back :wub:


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 I hope that Solas comes back to Lavellan :) But I'm fine if my Lavallan have to find him. On the other hand this scares me because I'm afraid that the relationship will end badly and I can't do anything about it and I don't want that to happen but on the other hand I want to know what happens. And I want him back :wub:

 

Well, technically the relationship has already ended. Though you're locked in right before he ends it, so some have questioned that timing as potentially meaningful.

 

But we'll see what options they give us. The team knows people were affected by the Solas romance, but Solas is a character that must be handled primarily in whatever role they have planned for him. Any romance specific stuff is entirely secondary. They do seem like they intend to address the subject of closure. At least I hope so. Whether that's sad, bittersweet, or happy remains to be seen.

 

I believe, according to stats released a while back, about 80% of Inquisitors were human, which leaves less than 20% elves, some of them male, and some of the female elves romanced other characters, so a Solavellan romance was likely experienced by a relatively small, but obviously quite affected portion of the player population.


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Well, technically the relationship has already ended. Though you're locked in right before he ends it, so some have questioned that timing as potentially meaningful.

 

But we'll see what options they give us. The team knows people were affected by the Solas romance, but Solas is a character that must be handled primarily in whatever role they have planned for him. Any romance specific stuff is entirely secondary. They do seem like they intend to address the subject of closure. At least I hope so. Whether that's sad, bittersweet, or happy remains to be seen.

 

I believe, according to stats released a while back, about 80% of Inquisitors were human, which leaves less than 20% elves, some of them male, and some of the female elves romanced other characters, so a Solavellan romance was likely experienced by a relatively small, but obviously quite affected portion of the player population.

This. As much as a part of me wants the romance resolved because why not?  I actually have come to enjoy his character immensely outside of the romance.

 

Things I would like to see:

He has an interesting and meaningful relationship with Cole. - I want to see what comes of that.  I actually think that may be quite sad as I think Cole may have a hard time reconciling his friendship with Solas if Solas has to do something bad to achieve his goals. 

 

He has an interesting and poignant relationship with Cassandra - I want to see her confront Solas.  That betrayal will hurt her.  I want to see her wrestle with her own idealism. Her own drive to do Good. And then her deep respect and love she has for her friend.  All these things will be tested.  And vice-versa. I want to see Solas changed or at least affectied by that friendship. I WANT TO CRY.

 

He has an interesting and screwed up relationship with this time - He's sort of running on emotions now.  I think by the time you see him again, I think he may be back to being more "logical" but I think he'll have a harder time controlling his emotions. He's clearly sort of on the edge when he leaves.  He's going to be wrestling with the idea that this time. This world is worth saving as is. And moving forward.


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Well, technically the relationship has already ended. Though you're locked in right before he ends it, so some have questioned that timing as potentially meaningful.

 

But we'll see what options they give us. The team knows people were affected by the Solas romance, but Solas is a character that must be handled primarily in whatever role they have planned for him. Any romance specific stuff is entirely secondary. They do seem like they intend to address the subject of closure. At least I hope so. Whether that's sad, bittersweet, or happy remains to be seen.

 

I believe, according to stats released a while back, about 80% of Inquisitors were human, which leaves less than 20% elves, some of them male, and some of the female elves romanced other characters, so a Solavellan romance was likely experienced by a relatively small, but obviously quite affected portion of the player population.

 

They also have seemed to emphasize this point in the past, which is why I'm ready for an ending that my not exactly be satisfying on the romance front. I doubt this can be a situation like Witch Hunt. But honestly, the romance is unimportant to me as long as Solas himself gets a satisfying ending for his character!

 

As for the Pantheon, I couldn't care less about them right now, really, other than how they affect Solas. We barely know anything real about them, after all. I do get the impression that something is wrong with them, though, and releasing them would cause havoc. I imagined them not being complete monsters but still looking more horrifying but I guess that would be too much of a repeat of a villain like Corypheus. He had the blighted, monstrous look but still had motivations that made relative sense. I don't imagine the Pantheon will be devoid of reason but as of now I can't imagine not having to kill them.



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They also have seemed to emphasize this point in the past, which is why I'm ready for an ending that my not exactly be satisfying on the romance front. I doubt this can be a situation like Witch Hunt. But honestly, the romance is unimportant to me as long as Solas himself gets a satisfying ending for his character!

 

Out of curiosity, why not?  I've played Witch Hunt with two Wardens who never romanced Morrigan (my Amell, her BFF, and my Orlesian WC), and it worked just fine without the romance.  I never felt like Witch Hunt particularly emphasized the romance; hell, you don't even see Morrigan until the end, and she still wanders off to fulfill her plot role, just with the Warden at her side if you romanced her.


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Out of curiosity, why not?  I've played Witch Hunt with two Wardens who never romanced Morrigan (my Amell, her BFF, and my Orlesian WC), and it worked just fine without the romance.  I never felt like Witch Hunt particularly emphasized the romance; hell, you don't even see Morrigan until the end, and she still wanders off to fulfill her plot role, just with the Warden at her side if you romanced her.

 

I meant that I doubt we can just step in and join Solas in whatever he's trying to do or that he'll want us to the way a romanced Morrigan did. That's the only part of Witch Hunt I was talking about!



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Well, technically the relationship has already ended. Though you're locked in right before he ends it, so some have questioned that timing as potentially meaningful.

 

But we'll see what options they give us. The team knows people were affected by the Solas romance, but Solas is a character that must be handled primarily in whatever role they have planned for him. Any romance specific stuff is entirely secondary. They do seem like they intend to address the subject of closure. At least I hope so. Whether that's sad, bittersweet, or happy remains to be seen.

 

I believe, according to stats released a while back, about 80% of Inquisitors were human, which leaves less than 20% elves, some of them male, and some of the female elves romanced other characters, so a Solavellan romance was likely experienced by a relatively small, but obviously quite affected portion of the player population.

Yes he left you but I think the romance hasn't really ended because he clearly loves Lavellan. I think it would bequite lame if they would create a romance and the story would be that he just leaves you. Besides ME3 was their last game were 2 romances with male straight LIs ended badly so creating a romance with a straight male LI that ends badly again is not a good idea.

 

I believe that they can handle his character and the romance so that the outcomes don't cheapen the character or the romance. If they want to do that. Even those who romanced Anders had a change to be with him after the end so why not give that change to those who romanced Solas.

 

I believe that they had plans for Solas before the game was published so I don't really believe that it matters how many people played the romance at this point. I also believe that they knew that not so many people will complete it because it was so restricted. Anyway I believe that they can give people who romanced Solas a happier ending and it has nothing to do with how many people played the game. Of course if they don't want to do that then they don't want to do that or if it doesn't work then they don't do it but it just feels so pointless to create a romance that ends so that you can't do anything about to a game where you have choices.


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I meant that I doubt we can just step in and join Solas in whatever he's trying to do or that he'll want us to the way a romanced Morrigan did. That's the only part of Witch Hunt I was talking about!

 

It would depend on what he was doing.  I could certainly see scenarios where it's not plausible, but honestly, if Male!Warden can wander off and make a home in the Crossroads without knowing jack sh*t about parenthood OR eluvians (unless Dalish), I think Lavellan can figure it out with whatever Solas is doing :)


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I don't think they necessarily want to repeat themselves either. But Witch Hunt/ Wofl Hunt comparisons are totally understandable, That said, I don't rule out the idea, since I do think there are ways to work with that end as we move forward toward a next game. Of course it also depends on what their plans are for Solas, but I don't think they'll introduce him after three games, make you care about him, and then kill him off or something in DLC.

 

Also someone brought up Anders, and Anders, for all his flaws, my Hawke ran off with him in the end. So I can conceive of a character of mine seeing the big picture as well as the small one and even being okay with going along with certain plans or helping Solas. But there's also a whole organization behind you this time to worry about, something your Warden or Hawke didn't quite have to worry about.

 

Though both can become certain figures of authority (I have one queen and one on the run :P), it's different than leading the Inquisition.

 

While there are clues and hints, I'm actually kind of glad what's going to happen next is pretty obscure. It makes it more exciting even as we wait.....and wait....and wait.

 

DLC announcement soon, please BW. <_<


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