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[NightSymphony]

Sorry for interrupting...but I just wanted to share this beautiful artwork with you all...

 

A word?

http://alkantara.dev...-word-542957174

[dawnstone]

That's definitely an interesting thought... though a theoretical dependency between vallaslin and immortality would seem to conflict with Solas' assertion that it was an innate part of what the ancient Elvhen inherently were.   If memory serves, he claims immortality "was simply part of being elvhen.  The subtle beauty of their magic was the effect, and not the cause, of their nature."

 

Can't deny that it feels compelling, though.  Maybe the 'failing marks' have more to do with the weakening of elvhen magic in general?  In ancient times most, if not all, of the elvhen population seems to have been able to wield magic, while in modern times, I think the incidence of Dalish mages is somewhere near par with human- and Dreamers are almost unheard of.      

What I meant was they were immortal before, but that maybe the Veil was constructed and then cut off from their immortality/the Fade they had to have the vallaslin to access it again if they weren't Dreamer mages like the highest echelons of elven society. It could have been constructed as a method of controlling a population made primarily up of mages, or worst-case like a geas where they could basically mind control them to do anything.

[dawnstone]

Woah, what's that about markings failing?   

It's a poem in WoT2 (pg 201) let me go grab it off the Wiki:

 

Where Willows Wail

 

This is the translation from elven (http://dragonage.wik.../Elven_language (near the bottom of the page)

 

We/it lost eternity or the ruined tree of the People
Time won’t help when the land of dreams is no longer our journey
We try to lead despite the eventual failing of our markings.
To the inevitable and troubling freedom we are committed.
When we could no longer believe, we lost glory to war.
When the Wolf failed/won, we lost the People to war.

[Solas]

When I first read that poem in my copy my eyes went as wide as saucers. Pretty much confirms Fen'Harel did something huge that was a really good idea but simultaneously a really bad idea that began the downfall of ancient elven society. Without their gods which were now locked away they warred and everything went to ****

Maybe.

Its essentially like.. We've lost our immortality and special connection to magic and the beyond. Uthenera is no longer for us, we cannot have it. We're trying and trying but it's just not working, what is to come is inevitable. We're free but we've lost our gods and all that came with them. And its the dread wolf's doing and it's bittersweet.

[Ulv Elskeren]

What I meant was they were immortal before, but that maybe the Veil was constructed and then cut off from their immortality/the Fade they had to have the vallaslin to access it again if they weren't Dreamer mages like the highest echelons of elven society. It could have been constructed as a method of controlling a population made primarily up of mages, or worst-case like a geas where they could basically mind control them to do anything.

 

Ahhh, I think I see what you're getting at.  The only problem seems to be the timeline.  We generally assume the raising of the veil (the creation of solid reality as we know it) occurred well before humanity arrived on the scene.  The Quickening, on the other hand, seems to date to the time of first contact with humans.  The connection may not have the immediacy of direct cause and effect, but at least in the same general era.

 

Maybe that's a false assumption?  If so though, it's really weird to imagine the veil being so (relatively) recent.

[dawnstone]

Ahhh, I think I see what you're getting at.  The only problem seems to be the timeline.  We generally assume the raising of the veil (the creation of solid reality as we know it) occurred well before humanity arrived on the scene.  The Quickening, on the other hand, seems to date to the time of first contact with humans.  The connection may not have the immediacy of direct cause and effect, but at least in the same general era.

 

Maybe that's a false assumption?  If so though, it's really weird to imagine the veil being so (relatively) recent.

Yeah, we don't really know when the Veil was constructed, so it's all wild guessing - but at this point I am of the opinion that the Veil cutting them off from the Fade is the reason most elves lost their immortality. If the humans arrived on the scene around the same time the Veil was constructed though... well, perhaps the only reason humans were able to even come to Thedas, was that the elven magic wasn't so overwhelming anymore and they could live comfortably.

 

I like the idea of Falon'Din having something to do with the making of the Veil, and these theories, all the possibilities are fun to speculate about (there's just so much we don't know!), but still, I tend to prefer the theory that the Veil had something to do with Fen'Harel locking away the gods, and elves losing their immortality because of that - an unintended, but ultimately destructive consequence.

[CapricornSun]

Interrupting a bit with some fanart. (Sorry!)

 

Awesome fanart of Solas by nanananananablr.

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Source: http://nanananananab...t-solas-fan-art

 

 

Solas tee design.

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Source: http://dino-myte.tum...tee-design-dino

 

 

Sexy.

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Source: http://osatokun.tumb...fetish-u-sweats

 

 

Solas and Lavellan in bed with their children.

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Source: http://demandthedood...iette-thank-you

 

 

Cuddling in bed. (Slightly NSFW for nudity.)

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Source: http://ladytheirinsb...las-i-guess-ill

 

 

Another self insert weekend fanart in which the artist exists in the DA universe to torment Solas. xD

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Source: http://dekuku.tumblr...because-you-can

 

[MayriyaNoori]

My only problem with the whole Veil going up=Elves losing immortality is that fact that Solas and the sentinels seems to be pretty close to immortal still. I mean, they look really good for their age. Like, really good.

 

Maybe the Veil going up only effected elves born after it was constructed? That would have caused some serious drama surely. Everyone losing immortality is one thing, you would end up creating a whole new class in the society. I mean, even the lowest immortal slave would probably still consider himself above a mortal elf. Not to mention all the heartbreak of immortal elves having to watch their children die and such. It would have caused a huge divide for sure.

[dawnstone]

My only problem with the whole Veil going up=Elves losing immortality is that fact that Solas and the sentinels seems to be pretty close to immortal still. I mean, they look really good for their age. Like, really good.

 

Maybe the Veil going up only effected elves born after it was constructed? That would have caused some serious drama surely. Everyone losing immortality is one thing, you would end up creating a whole new class in the society. I mean, even the lowest immortal slave would probably still consider himself above a mortal elf. Not to mention all the heartbreak of immortal elves having to watch their children die and such. It would have caused a huge divide for sure.

See, this is what gets me, Mythal was dead, but her servants were sustained by something - some sort of magical stasis that wasn't uthenera. Perhaps her magic was part of that, but now that they don't have anything to guard, and her power has dissipated, they will quicken.

 

Solas was in uthenera, for a thousand years (probably woke up around Andraste's time after sleeping a thousand years, tried to help fix things, then went back to sleep). Since he's a Dreamer who has perfected uthenera, he can sustain himself entirely off of the Fade if need be, thus perhaps he wouldn't quicken, or he'd be able to stave it off more easily, as long as he spent a good portion of his time sleeping (isn't there some codex that said something about the Wolf or a beast prowling the Fade, eating the gods dreams? He doesn't eat very much in waking, according to WoT2, but he looks quite robust and healthy, he's getting energy somehow).

 

So perhaps Dreamers in ancient Arlathan, the ones who learned to sustain themselves on the Fade - the same way spirits do, like, Cole he doesn't have to eat - they'd live on, but whenever they were awake, up and about, they'd quicken a little bit at a time. All the others would age normally, having a lifespan similar to humans.

[MayriyaNoori]

See, this is what gets me, Mythal was dead, but her servants were sustained by something - some sort of magical stasis that wasn't uthenera. Perhaps her magic was part of that, but now that they don't have anything to guard, and her power has dissipated, they will quicken.

 

Solas was in uthenera, for a thousand years (probably woke up around Andraste's time after sleeping a thousand years, tried to help fix things, then went back to sleep). Since he's a Dreamer who has perfected uthenera, he can sustain himself entirely off of the Fade if need be, thus perhaps he wouldn't quicken, or he'd be able to stave it off more easily, as long as he spent a good portion of his time sleeping (isn't there some codex that said something about the Wolf or a beast prowling the Fade, eating the gods dreams? He doesn't eat very much in waking, according to WoT2, but he looks quite robust and healthy, he's getting energy somehow).

 

So perhaps Dreamers in ancient Arlathan, the ones who learned to sustain themselves on the Fade - the same way spirits do, like, Cole he doesn't have to eat - they'd live on, but whenever they were awake, up and about, they'd quicken a little bit at a time. All the others would age normally, having a lifespan similar to humans.

Mmm.....that makes sense. It is the sentinels that bug me on the point more than Solas. And the fact that Solas says "Yes, elven such as I" to Abelas pretty much confirming that there are more Ancient elves out there somewhere. They had to live this long somehow.

 

*sigh* We just need a DLC with some answers. That would be awesome. I know the answers will just lead to more questions.....but at least they will be new questions.

[Cee]

We feel like his intentions were good or for the greater good because he suggests they were and so does Cole. Solas likes helping people and he hates oppression. I don't think it's that people just assume he did the right thing no exceptions. What you intend and what is the truth of the  matter is often at odds with each other. If I say what he did was "right", I'm more reacting to the fact that I've gleaned the main belief among the fans to be that what he did was wrong. Who says it was? Call it playing "Devil's" advocate, I suppose. I don't really assume much of anything completely. Most of the doubt about him planning on unlocking the door keeping the Pantheon away like "how ya doin, come on out" is based on how he still talks about them even now despite all his guilt. He still speaks as if they were not good people and did horrible things. He never wavers on that.

 

I don't see it that way. I tend to see more people recognizing all of his layers and shades of gray, but maybe since I'm mostly here and in places like Tumblr, I don't follow the more extreme parts of the fandom. He admits to being somewhat different in his youth, he gives Sera tips on revolutionary tactics, including eliminating people, certain things he says to Blackwall, some of the things he says to an Inquisitor he dislikes, a lot of things shape the darker side of his personality and experience. But again, Solas is very gray, even as he does care deeply and feels a lot of pain and regret, he's also feeling cynicism and lacking trust (for the most part, though obviously an Inquisitor can gain a good deal of trust, but even one he loves does not earn his complete trust.

 

Solas is willing to do a lot for whatever his plans/goals are. He knows this. Whatever he's going to do, he seems to acknowledge the impact in his last words before he leaves. Even his old, loyal friend Mythal is not immune. There's a certain desperation in him at the end.

 

I also take what Cole says into great consideration here, like you say.
 

[Elda]

This might be going down the philosophy trail a bit but what if the poem from WoT2 was referring to the breaking of a rebirth cycle? What if "immortality" was a passing of "soul" into the fade but then was cut off by something causing the spirit or soul to no longer return? The chantry climes a similar process in the chant about souls passing through the fade into the beyond and I think we can safely say that much of their symbology probably stemmed from worship of the Elvhen Pantheon. (At least that's what I've been noticing lately. I mean.. sunburst throne? Elgar'nan and the sun... there's others but I'm not very good at literary analysis. Oh and the tree in the stained glass window of Andraste looks similar to the tree on Flemythal's grimoire. Symbology. Symbology everywhere!) Although, none of that explains the situation for Abelas and crew... :/

[Niamaduir]

This might be going down the philosophy trail a bit but what if the poem from WoT2 was referring to the breaking of a rebirth cycle? What if "immortality" was a passing of "soul" into the fade but then was cut off by something causing the spirit or soul to no longer return? The chantry climes a similar process in the chant about souls passing through the fade into the beyond and I think we can safely say that much of their symbology probably stemmed from worship of the Elvhen Pantheon. (At least that's what I've been noticing lately. I mean.. sunburst throne? Elgar'nan and the sun... there's others but I'm not very good at literary analysis. Oh and the tree in the stained glass window of Andraste looks similar to the tree on Flemythal's grimoire. Symbology. Symbology everywhere!) Although, none of that explains the situation for Abelas and crew... :/

 

I think that you are more likely to have that symbolism transfer with Tevinter, rather than the Andrastian Chantry, as it is implied that Tevinter picked over the bones of Ancient Arlathan. I think if anything the Chanty probably borrows from Avvar/Aldmerri cultural since those are the frames of reference that Andraste is said to have grown up in. That is not to say that this is not possible, since, I if I am remembering Chantry lore correctly, Andraste spent time in Tevinter as a slave. So it's possible but maybe not as likely. The problem with the symbolism is that I am not sure we have much to go on with regard to Ancient Elvhen symbolism. Codex, especially the Astriums,  imply that many of the name constellations are actual Elvhen symbols, but their significance seem to be a bit murky. At least that was my impression.

[Commander of the Grey]

A lovely friend introduced me to a song and I thought I'd share in case it hasn't been mentioned here before.

Run to You by Pentatonix

Highly, highly recommend that you ladies look it up when you get time. Best listened to with headphones. I suck at embedding unfortunately. Sorry~

[CapricornSun]

Arty party again.

 

Solas portrait.

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Source: http://aaami.tumblr....st/122841555044

 

 

May I offer you an egg in this trying time?

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Source: http://fooshfoosh.tu...his-trying-time

 

 

The Hierophant WIP.

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Source: http://apostatesalwa...-solas-wears-so

 

 

Solas sketch.

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Source: http://kimberly-park...um-have-a-crush

 

 

Solas and Lavellan embracing in bed. (Slightly NSFW for nudity.)

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Source: http://lillotte17.tu...n-dreaming-ebbs

 

[ChuChu]

My only problem with the whole Veil going up=Elves losing immortality is that fact that Solas and the sentinels seems to be pretty close to immortal still. I mean, they look really good for their age. Like, really good.
 
Maybe the Veil going up only effected elves born after it was constructed? That would have caused some serious drama surely. Everyone losing immortality is one thing, you would end up creating a whole new class in the society. I mean, even the lowest immortal slave would probably still consider himself above a mortal elf. Not to mention all the heartbreak of immortal elves having to watch their children die and such. It would have caused a huge divide for sure.

This is my problem with many of the immortality lost theories, too. I suspect that the loss of immortality was likely something they are born with. It is possible that this was due to the Fade, or to Blood Magic -- and possibly the last straw in whatever civil war had been brewing. 

Mythal, Solas, Mythal's warriors, and evidently the other elvhen that yet remain are all long lived. Mythal's 'immortality' differs than Solas' (supposing Solas IS the Dread Wolf in original body), but that's due to her actually being murdered, most likely. It's possible she was murdered whilst in uthenara, and this is how she roams in a wisp form. She may have broken through the veil similar to Cole.

Ready for some HARD CORE Chuchu-shouldn't-post-at-ungodly-hours-tin-foil-hat-theories? It's crazy and out-there, but it lays out a possibility regarding immortality amongst elves. If we consider the worship of the pantheon as gods, and the prospect of immortality and Arlathan, I imagine something like the following happened -- warning, VERY theory based and victim of conjecture and Chuchu crazy-ness:

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• at one point, all elves were immortal. They could twist reality to their desire thanks to the veil not being present (the fade's open connection to the real world is what allowed them to create cities of crystal and beauty amongst the forests -- Arlathan). Magic was a part of being elvhen. Some were more skilled than others, and this was the rooting of the Pantheon. I suspect population was kept under control, and a nobility system was in play. It was during this time that Ghilan'nain would have ascended to 'godhood'... she was skilled in the manipulation of the 'Fade' and thus was invited amongst the powerful Pantheon thanks to Andruil's support.
• Something happened, and new births were no longer immortal.  It either affected a targeted area or was spread by some other means. It could have been the result of blood magic, or of the creation of the veil. Blood magic does not need the fade to be powerful, it has other sources... so that's probably important. I believe this would be around when the Forgotten Ones were banished. They, seemly, are also immortal.

Note: -- Or, it's possible the non-immortal People were created as servants by the Immortals, too. And they were never immortal to begin with. If the Elvhen really did create beasts and monsters, they may have created people and dwarves and other things, too.

• population of immortals dwindled. Slain by war or murdered in their sleep. Those left, the Pantheon, became worshipped as gods, never dying and walled inside their palace. They took care of the elven people like flocks of sheep -- each immortal taking responsibility for those who wore their marks.
• Power corrupts, and the Pantheon began to have conflicts amongst themselves and forget their initial noble purpose. Defection. Squabbling. Power struggles. The Forgotten Ones were sought out in the void by those with mixed beliefs. War began again.  
• The veil was created to forever separate the two factions. Elven people were left shepherdless. Mythal was slain, Solas slept to regain his power. Humans landed in Thedas.
• The factions interact with the 'People' through dreams. This is how the Tevinter Old Gods (aka the Forgotten Ones) manipulated the magisters and taught humans magic/blood magic. The war never truly ended, and now people are an instrument of it. Cue in the release of the Forgotten Ones coming closer with every Blight.

 
 

See, this is what gets me, Mythal was dead, but her servants were sustained by something - some sort of magical stasis that wasn't uthenera. Perhaps her magic was part of that, but now that they don't have anything to guard, and her power has dissipated, they will quicken.
 
 
So perhaps Dreamers in ancient Arlathan, the ones who learned to sustain themselves on the Fade - the same way spirits do, like, Cole he doesn't have to eat - they'd live on, but whenever they were awake, up and about, they'd quicken a little bit at a time. All the others would age normally, having a lifespan similar to humans.

Do we know it wasn't uthenara?

And on point 2: also possible! and if they do age, then going in to uthenara may heal whatever deterioration happened. If the stories are true, then uthenara supposedly heals.

[NightSymphony]

More art

 

Dragon Age Role Play

http://fadelurker.de...Harel-543083291

http://fadelurker.de...rdens-543092477

http://fadelurker.de...Solas-543093041

http://fadelurker.de...Solas-543088249

 

Modern AU

http://cindycerberus...-walk-542896864

 

Self Insert Weekend

http://logias.devian...ekend-542924785

 

An old one I don't remember sharing before

http://kimikoyukicha...Solas-527595200

 

 

And a pretty picture of Cole

http://kimikoyukicha.../Cole-542988385

[Abelas Forever!]

I think it should be remembered that Solas' story and the role he plays in the world was established first and the romance added later.    That is why in a way it had to end because as the writer explained, Solas had a plan and if he had abandoned it, he would not be true to himself.    In a way he would no longer be the person you loved.   I found it very hard, considering it was my first play through, what happened with Solas and my female Lavellan but I'm not expecting the romance to feature that significantly in what is to come.   If the Inquisitor encounters Solas again, then I would expect him to acknowledge the relationship but I can't see them riding off into the sunset together.    When my girl went to her quarters post party and stood on the balcony alone, I had the feeling that was how she would be spending her future, starring wistfully off into the horizon, wondering where Solas has gone.   So just getting closure for her will be something because of course she doesn't know what I do.

 

Still looking on the bright side, before the game was released I had the horrible feeling that Solas might have to sacrifice himself to ultimately close the tear in the Fade and defeat Cory, so from that point of view, we're good because at least he's still alive.     What he said to Cole post epilogue was pretty sad though.

I agree that he had to leave inquisitor after you had defeated Corypheus. I wouldn't have like it if he had abandoned his mission so that he could have stayed with the inquisitor. Although he had to leave Lavellan but it doesn't mean that it was final. I believe that they must have thought that possibility before he was made a romance option. I think it would be weird that they would add him as a romance option and then kill him in one of the DLCs or don't give any options to get him back. I don't believe that if there is a possibility to get him back then that is all sunshine and rainbows. I believe it's going to be bittersweet and I'm hoping that the resolution to his romance is like that. I just want that they can be together in the end. Alive or dead.

 

For my Lavellans Solas is still the person they fell in love with. He left so many things untold but because his love was real then their relationship was also real and if they have a change to get him back they will take it.

 

 

I will cry so hard if this happens. Like, no shame kind of crying.

Me too.

[Gervaise]

On the subject of what happened with the ancient elves, the old elven writings in the Temple do shed some light, particularly the one that seems to have been written by Abelas.   He says that "we are trapped" and "The ones born here do not understand the keenness of what we have lost."    He speaks of how he must teach them.   How he shed his real name when he started to serve Mythal and then shed it (and took the name Abelas) after she was murdered.     There is definitely a sense that the elves were originally the beings that Solas describes, possibly because there was no veil but then the loss of the gods (the creation of the veil) meant that all elves born after that time were mortal.    So Abelas and Solas are immortal because they were a product of the earlier time but those born after were as the elves are today.   The magic is still in their blood because Keiran can sense it but without the connection to their gods as they were born, they don't inherit the immortality.   We have to remember that the Dalish understanding of what happened is imperfectly remembered.   They associate the loss of immortality with the arrival of the humans but it seems that may have just been co-incidental.   The way the ancient elves treated the humans may have been what prompted (Fen'Harel) to take action.

 

I also wonder at another of the writings that says "His crime was high treason.   He took on a form reserved for the gods and their chosen, and dare to fly in the shape of the divine."   Could this be about Fen'Harel?    It says the criminal belonged to Dirthamen (the god of secrets) but took wing at the urging of Ghilan'nin, sought protection from Mythal but didn't find favour and was given over to Elgar'nan for judgement.     There is no mention of what the judgement was but the text mentions a shadowy mass with blazing eyes whose form may be one or many.

 

The shadowy mass with the blazing eyes makes me think of the non romance tarot card for Solas.    The possible one or many forms could refer to the fact that he has appeared under many different names during history.     Of course it could refer to someone else entirely; possibly the murderer of Mythal since this mysterious entity would have reason to bear a grudge since he sought her protection and was denied.    The shadowy presence would seem in keeping with the creature in the Fade that slays Felassan.     Could it be that Solas is one of a number of avatars for Fen'Harel, the latter existing only in the Fade (as a result of Elgar'nan's judgement) but able to act through these individuals.    They have a degree of individuality and free will, hence Felassan able to go against orders but ultimately they are subject to Fen'Harel.     In which case, had Solas stayed with the Inquisitor, he might have been punished with death too.     Fen'Harel only roused him from slumber after the loss of Felassan, his previous agent.     If this was the case, then it probably wasn't Solas who gave Cory his orb, but either Felassan or another avatar.  

[Sah291]

The shadowy presence would seem in keeping with the creature in the Fade that slays Felassan.     Could it be that Solas is one of a number of avatars for Fen'Harel, the latter existing only in the Fade (as a result of Elgar'nan's judgement) but able to act through these individuals.    They have a degree of individuality and free will, hence Felassan able to go against orders but ultimately they are subject to Fen'Harel.     In which case, had Solas stayed with the Inquisitor, he might have been punished with death too.     Fen'Harel only roused him from slumber after the loss of Felassan, his previous agent.     If this was the case, then it probably wasn't Solas who gave Cory his orb, but either Felassan or another avatar.

I think that's one possibility. Cole and Solas have a banter referencing the movie Meet Joe Black, so I've wondered if that was a hint that Solas might be in a similiar situation where he is posssesed. Which would make the romance more complicated...is it Solas or Fen'Harel that is in love with Lavellan? Or both? It could end with Fen'Harel deciding to "let go" of Solas, which could be a happy but bittersweet ending. Or could be it was just meant as a reference to Cole, since he also helps people pass over as a spirit of Compassion.

[Abelas Forever!]

Maybe the PC will have to choose which one to save. Solas or Fen'Harel. I'm not sure which one I would save because I'm not sure who would be the person my Lavellans are in love with or are my Lavellans in love with both of them.

[Niamaduir]

Finalizing details on my tarot commission and it is looking beautiful 

Pages of the artist I am working with:

http://needapotion.tumblr.com/

http://lowenael.devi...slots-490195082

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[Sah291]

Maybe the PC will have to choose which one to save. Solas or Fen'Harel. I'm not sure which one I would save because I'm not sure who would be the person my Lavellans are in love with or are my Lavellans in love with both of them.

Some of his talk about "watching from the fade" might be explained by him being a somniari. We know from Feynriel in DA2 that he was able to watch a girl from the fade. Or if the theory that ancient elves were more spirit like is true, then the distinction might not be so clear cut...he could be both an ancient elf and a spirit, without being possessed in the usual way that the Chantry would think of it. So I don't know whether I've decided he's the actual Fen'Harel or possessed by him. I was unspoiled my first playthrough and before I got to the end, I had suspected he was possessed by a pride demon.

My canon Hawke romanced Anders and by the end of that game, I decided he didn't know where Anders ended and Justice began, but didn't really care...he loved the "whole person", whatever kind of creature he was. But out of all the spirit companions we've had so far they have mostly all been unique cases, so I'm not sure we really know much about how spirit possession works. Cole is a spirit who willed himself into mortal form without possessing anyone.

I guess for my Lavellan it would depend if he were still the same person she fell in love with or not. If he's possesed, we really don't know how much Fen'Harel is overriding his will. They could be merged like Flemeth/Mythal or aligned on whatever goal he has in mind. Or his memory could be Swiss cheese like rival Anders (Hopefully not!)

[Janic99]

Maybe the PC will have to choose which one to save. Solas or Fen'Harel. I'm not sure which one I would save because I'm not sure who would be the person my Lavellans are in love with or are my Lavellans in love with both of them.

Well... if it would be like on meet joe black mine would probably choose Fen'Harel (If it's that Fen'Harel is controlling his body) but if it's Solas who is the one that is saying all of the things etc. Then him.. but honestly. I only think that it is a possibility... sort of like Flemeth but... I don't know if it's really one of my biggest speculations.. I highly think that it might not be that way. Would be kind of cool though... 

I could just imagine this scene happening if it was Fen'Harel using Solas' body ( changing some of the conversation ) I mean.. how heartbreaking it would be that Lavellan is in love with this person called ''Solas'' as it is when in fact he is Fen'Harel.. just using Solas' body.... just... can't... the pain :



*edit: We could somehow imagine this as the scene just modified when Solas dumps lavellan though... 

[RynJ]

Maybe the PC will have to choose which one to save. Solas or Fen'Harel. I'm not sure which one I would save because I'm not sure who would be the person my Lavellans are in love with or are my Lavellans in love with both of them.

 

Nothing I can think of suggests that Solas is anything but Fen'Harel going by a new chosen name but if so, it would matter who was in control of the mind. Which would appear to just be Fen'Harel if this is a possession case. But that might be one thing that makes me drop the romance. Something about it bothers me a lot.