Solas would have difficulty opening up in therapy.
I could imagine that in self-defense, he'd just turn the tables on the therapist. Or maybe confess everything that bugs him and then make them forget about it, lol.
.... Still makes me wonder why he didn't make Lavellan forget about the whole affair, if he really never intended to hurt her. Would likely make things way easier for both of them.
I could imagine that in self-defense, he'd just turn the tables on the therapist. Or maybe confess everything that bugs him and then make them forget about it, lol.
.... Still makes me wonder why he didn't make Lavellan forget about the whole affair, if he really never intended to hurt her. Would likely make things way easier for both of them.
He will have to make everyone in Skyhold forget since they all knew and were gossiping about it, and who knows how far the rumor had spread. Besides, he seems like he could barely make himself end it. It would probably be too painful to know she doesn't remeber what happened.
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He will have to make everyone in Skyhold forget since they all knew and were gossiping about it, and who knows how far the rumor had spread. Besides, he seems like he could barely make himself end it. It would probably be too painful to know she doesn't remeber what happened.
Rumors are just that - rumors. No matter whom IQ romances, there are people who speculate who he/she is with anyway. And Solas/Lavellan romance seems to be least commented upon by anyone, by the way.
And yes, I know that he has difficulty ending it, but as painful making her forget would be, isn't it more painful to be aware that he made her suffer?
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Have you seen Wolf Children? I highly recommend it.
And yes, I know that he has difficulty ending it, but as painful making her forget would be, isn't it more painful to be aware that he made her suffer?
Once you start asking those kinds of questions, you start down a slippery slope over what right a person has to another person's mind and thoughts. I don't see Solas as the type to decide it's all right to play around with anyone in that way, short of absolute necessity. Pain is a part of life, and while Lavellan can be sad and hurt it ended at least she was able to experience something incredible. Why take the good away just because some of it hurt?
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Once you start asking those kinds of questions, you start down a slippery slope over what right a person has to another person's mind and thoughts. I don't see Solas as the type to decide it's all right to play around with anyone in that way, short of absolute necessity. Pain is a part of life, and while Lavellan can be sad and hurt it ended at least she was able to experience something incredible. Why take the good away just because some of it hurt?
I also wonder, if he could do it so easily, why not erase any memory of his presence at Skyhold? Maybe it only works on Cole because he's at least part spirit?
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You watched it all that fast? Oh dear. I warned there was pain.
Yeah I wasn't doing anything today aha
you tried to warn me I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED hahren oh how i should have listened
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Once you start asking those kinds of questions, you start down a slippery slope over what right a person has to another person's mind and thoughts. I don't see Solas as the type to decide it's all right to play around with anyone in that way, short of absolute necessity. Pain is a part of life, and while Lavellan can be sad and hurt it ended at least she was able to experience something incredible. Why take the good away just because some of it hurt?
I don't see Solas as the type to decide it's all right to play with anyone's feelings as well.... which is WHY I wonder he actually does things that look awfully like it (maybe not intentionally, but... eh, we know how intentions can lead to hell 
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I mean, let's face it - the hurt may eventually outweigh all the good, with the way things played out: Solas leaves Lavellan at a bad, emotional spot and then refuses to give her any means to move on.
He ends their romance at the most unexpected moment and we know through banter with Cole that she can't help but to think that it's because something's wrong with her. And why shouldn't she? Solas at first tells her that she matters to him and deserves to know the truth.... only to decide that she doesn't even deserve to know why he left her. That's a pretty bad punch into girl's self-esteem right there.
He exacerbates it by telling her later that they have more important things to do and seems to treat her like a child, rather than respected adult he apparently had her for till the breakup - no matter how strong psychologically Lavellan is, I'm surprised we don't hear her heart crack loudly right then and there.
It's especially sad to see if we then go and talk with others and what they do is basically say their farewells to her - everyone and their dog basically expect her to confront Corypheus and save the world or die trying. Her feelings on it don't matter, and the guy she thought she can lean on emotionally just pulled a rug from under her and built an ice wall between them.
Even worse, he promises her that she'll find out what that was all about after fight with Corypheus... only to disappear right after the fight's done. He assures her that what they had was real, true, but like I said - it will just make it harder for her to get over him and smells awfully like playing with her feelings, especially if (as we know through Cole) Solas likely doesn't expect to come back or involve anyone he met along the way into whatever he's supposed to do from now on.
IMO Lavellan has the right to feel used and emotionally abused. It'll be even worse if she finds out who he is.
Yeah I wasn't doing anything today aha
you tried to warn me I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED hahren oh how i should have listened
@Drosophila: squints at u puffy-eyed
I haven't read your spoiler tag
I am off to embark on this new probably-gonna-hurt-me wolf-related adventure
Let me know how it goes!
.... Still makes me wonder why he didn't make Lavellan forget about the whole affair, if he really never intended to hurt her. Would likely make things way easier for both of them.
Can you imagine the virtual riots BioWare would've had if this happened? Not only does the Solas romance take control from the player since Solas is, at first, hesitant, and then he makes the moves, and then you can't even officially lock it in until he decides to take you off to Crestwood, and then when it finally does lock, he dumps you.
Now imagine if he made her forget too. She has so little control in the relationship as it stands (which sometimes happens) but many players would've probably felt manipulated.
Life brings painful events, but people are also resilient.
Darkspawn taint has some strange side effects. 
Can you imagine the virtual riots BioWare would've had if this happened? Not only does the Solas romance take control from the player since Solas is, at first, hesitant, and then he makes the moves, and then you can't even officially lock it in until he decides to take you off to Crestwood, and then when it finally does lock, he dumps you.
Now imagine if he made her forget too. She has so little control in the relationship as it stands (which sometimes happens) but many players would've probably felt manipulated.
Life brings painful events, but people are also resilient.
... Are you telling me they don't feel manipulated anyway??
... Are you telling me they don't feel manipulated anyway??
Yes, I never felt that way. I see her as frustrated, sad, confused, deeply hurt, worried about him once he's gone, a touch angry, but manipulated? No.
Yes, I never felt that way. I see her as frustrated, sad, confused, deeply hurt, worried about him once he's gone, a touch angry, but manipulated? No.
We were talking about players, not Lavellan.
I don't see Solas as the type to decide it's all right to play with anyone's feelings as well.... which is WHY I wonder he actually does things that look awfully like it (maybe not intentionally, but... eh, we know how intentions can lead to hell
I mean, let's face it - the hurt may eventually outweigh all the good, with the way things played out: Solas leaves Lavellan at a bad, emotional spot and then refuses to give her any means to move on.
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Even worse, he promises her that she'll find out what that was all about after fight with Corypheus... only to disappear right after the fight's done. He assures her that what they had was real, true, but like I said - it will just make it harder for her to get over him and smells awfully like playing with her feelings, especially if (as we know through Cole) Solas likely doesn't expect to come back or involve anyone he met along the way into whatever he's supposed to do from now on.
IMO Lavellan has the right to feel used and emotionally abused. It'll be even worse if she finds out who he is.
He admits he made a mistake, so maybe it's just that. He knew and occasionally voiced that it was a bad idea, but he just couldn't help himself? That's assuming that he was sincere regarding the romance, and I would break my head before I can figure out for sure where he's sincere about anything or just playing the IQ.
She has every right to feel this way and he admitted that as well. It's up to the player to decide if she shakes it off, ends up completely broken, or is bloodthirsty for vengeance. I'll personally enjoy experiencing all three if I get the chance in a DLC.
We were talking about players, not Lavellan.
Right, and I said I never felt manipulated.
Yes, I never felt that way. I see her as frustrated, sad, confused, deeply hurt, worried about him once he's gone, a touch angry, but manipulated? No.
Same. Some Lavellans might feel that they were manipulated and abused, but I as the player do not see Solas and his actions that way - certainly not overtly or maliciously so. It's all up to the interpretation of the individual player and their character for how they feel or what they think of what Solas did, but especially with how Weekes clarified Solas in the romance and his interactions I do not see him written as an abusive character. Flawed, certainly, but that's no different from the other companions.
He admits he made a mistake, so maybe it's just that. He knew and occasionally voiced that it was a bad idea, but he just couldn't help himself? That's assuming that he was sincere regarding the romance, and I would break my head before I can figure out for sure where he's sincere about anything or just playing the IQ.
She has every right to feel this way and he admitted that as well. It's up to the player to decide if she shakes it off, ends up completely broken, or is bloodthirsty for vengeance. I'll personally enjoy experiencing all three if I get the chance in a DLC.
IMO saying that the whole thing was a mistake doesn't necessarily make things better - may even make Lavellan feel worse; I mean, there she is, thinking that there's something beautiful between them, that she's found someone to whom she genuinely matters.... and then she's told that she was nothing more than a mistake (mirroring what Alexius said about her, in case someone picked mages alliance).
Yaaaay, why don't you twist that knife in her heart a bit harder, ey Solas?
Right, and I said I never felt manipulated.
You didn't. I know a few people who did. They couldn't even finish the game - that's how angry they were about the whole thing ending like it did.
And don't get me wrong - it's not that I don't like this romance or character. But it ended the way it ended and we have no clue how they're going to address it in DLC, if they're ever going to address it at all.
Same. Some Lavellans might feel that they were manipulated and abused, but I as the player do not see Solas and his actions that way - certainly not overtly or maliciously so. It's all up to the interpretation of the individual player and their character for how they feel or what they think of what Solas did, but especially with how Weekes clarified Solas in the romance and his interactions I do not see him written as an abusive character. Flawed, certainly, but that's no different from the other companions.
I don't see it as well - I don't necessarily accuse him of malicious intents, in fact I think he did it all because he's either unable or terrified to let her go entirely.
I'm just saying how his actions can be read in-story and why either erasing her memory or even giving her some sort of reason or way that will make it easier for her to move on would be better than how he left it.
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