Oh I hope the next game takes place in Tevinter. That would just be epic awesome.
I mean for me....
Origins=Dalish elf who did something awesome
DA2=Hawke. Hawke is Hawke.(Sometimes I think Hawke is her own race)
DAI=Dalish elf who did even more awesome
DA4 in the Tevinter=Let me play an elf slave that causes an absolute uproar in the Imperium. YEEEESSSSSS!!!!
Really anywhere is cool though. I think the only way I could truly be disappointed by a new DA game is another one never coming out.
This was my first DA time truly playing through as an elf. In Origins, I actually began as a city elf, but glitched and had to restart early. So I did as human in part because of getting the mabari very early. 
But my legacy of lady stabby rogues saving the day shall continue.
I do hope we'll get race options again.
Can someone explain to me how Varric goes with you to the fade in DA2 if dwarves are cut off from the fade...
I'm not going to comment on the subject much regarding the "Solas and his breakup and the intent behind it" discussion of a handful of pages back, but while catching up on posts I kept realizing just how much I completely agree with some of you, which is such a warm fuzzy feeling I wanted to share. 
...Alright, I will comment (for the benefit of Witcher 3 players) that AT LEAST Solas didn't pull an Avallac'h moment (which I suppose fits his character and all that, but stiiiiiill, why the insinuations, CPR? Why??) and I'll just... go back to reading in silence now. 
And continuing my other playthroughs before I fall asleep at the keyboard. Yeah. I really ought to do that.
And sorry for the vague reference for those who don't play Witcher. I'm really trying not to comment on this (because it'll take me hours to compose a very long post and I really ought to sleep at least every other night, sigh!) and I'm still sore about the loose ends of W3.
Silence. Yes. Silence is best.
Oh I hope the next game takes place in Tevinter. That would just be epic awesome.
I mean for me....
Origins=Dalish elf who did something awesome
DA2=Hawke. Hawke is Hawke.(Sometimes I think Hawke is her own race)
DAI=Dalish elf who did even more awesome
DA4 in the Tevinter=Let me play an elf slave that causes an absolute uproar in the Imperium. YEEEESSSSSS!!!!
Really anywhere is cool though. I think the only way I could truly be disappointed by a new DA game is another one never coming out.
LOL, that's pretty much how it went for me too.
Oooh, yes! I'd love to play as an elf slave in Tevinter! Elven slave causing an uproar in the Imperium? Ho ho ho!
I do hope we'll get race options again.
This! Please, Bioware, please let there be race options for DA4. 
Time for art again. 
Solas and Lavellan doing impersonations of each other. xD
Playful, sexy Solavellan.
Solas x m!Lavellan
Solas and m!Lavellan as merpeople, again using the dollmaker.
"I can't..." 
Solas The Hermit.
*sigh* Couldn't resist after all.
Regarding the breakup scene specifically, I largely agree with the analyses that I've read so far, but one point does bother me: the cold feet. I really didn't get the vibe that Solas gets cold feet, let alone in a situation like this, it seemed to me more that it dawned on him that he literally could not tell her the truth, partly because of the incredible risk (how difficult would it have been if - going on the 50/50 chance of Lavellan's answer - she chose to respond by trying to stop him and he would have had to choose whether to kill or incapacitate the woman he loved or give up his incredibly important mission?) and partly because the entire romance from his perspective really could be perceived as a pipe dream that he indulged in, a fantasy that he could never realistically pursue because of who and what he is. For whatever reason, the romance always had an underlying illusory quality to it as I saw it, meaning that those were stolen moments with Lavellan that he could not resist, yet the dream had to come to an end eventually. So, the way I perceived the breakup was him trying to be responsible and ending it while there still was a chance to salvage both Lavellan and her feelings (no matter how counter-intuitive that might seem at a surface glance) while staying true to his real purpose, because he owes that to "the people" - the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one. Solas being a hair's breath away from revealing the truth tells me that he just saw the whole scenario play out in his head and that he resists the temptation for the first time; he might trust Lavellan to still love him despite the overwhelming truth of his identity (and he had no reason whatsoever to assume that Lavellan could accept that her boyfriend is one of her gods, particularly since thereafter he's going to have to shatter her perception of gods in general), yet even if she did accept what he says, what then? He just saunters off into the sunset with his lady love, giving up the terrible need of the people whose lives he thinks he ruined, abandoning his companions to their fate (his reaction to Grey Wardens suggests to me that, whatever his plans, he does care for them) and letting the world merrily go down its path to doom? Would it even work between them, given his lifespan and the ostensible differences between their essences? I think he realized he would be causing her more pain by letting her believe in the illusion of their romance at that juncture.
In short, I really don't think he panicked, got cold feet, lost his nerve or any other synonymous idiom, I think he realized he took his little fantasy too far and ended up hurting both Lavellan and himself by not putting a stop to it at the beginning. I think maybe even he's incredibly out of practice with regard to his own feelings - he seems to trust himself, he has exquisite control of himself in a lot of situations, yet falling in love seems like such an easy, simple thing that I think he might even have been arrogant enough to think that he could just "deal with it" and he deluded himself into thinking that it wouldn't matter, or that it could also serve him. He might even have convinced himself about that, though I think he tried to pull away from Lavellan initially because he might disdain using such a tool for manipulation, but at any rate I'm pretty convinced that he thought all of this was a harmless little infatuation that suddenly turned serious before he realized it. That was a mistake on his part as he sees it, so he has to remedy it before it gets even worse, it's better to be hated by her and to have her suffer a clean break now rather than a protracted affair that has no foreseeable conclusion on the horizon. He's not omnipotent, he cannot know what their future holds, but it's fairly easy to guess that the ending would be a bad one unless he eliminated the threat beforehand.
I can relate to that feeling, I've put an end to a relationship before because I realized that I was causing more suffering by having the other person involved wait for me for an infinity when I knew there was little to no chance of us being anywhere near each other within the next decade - and I've had it done to me, too. It's all around a nasty affair, yet I do believe clean cuts do have a purpose and there really is no way to do it without it hurting. A lot. That does not mean it's not worth the price, however, in the long-term at least, and whether or not the person doing the cutting is right in the end, it at least offers closure when that person is uncertain at best that they can actually be the partner that the other person truly deserves. (And the gods know closure is a commodity that should be cherished far more than it is.)
All in all, based on his behavior he is many things, cunning and simultaneously sensitive among them, yet I think Lavellan hits him squarely in his own hubris: he's a controller, yet he utterly fails to control this thing between them, I always got the feeling that this entire romance caught him off guard and that's how it spiraled into "real, deep feelings" having to be trampled because they grew while he wasn't paying attention.
*sigh* I so utterly failed at keeping out of this discussion.
Can someone explain to me how Varric goes with you to the fade in DA2 if dwarves are cut off from the fade...
This was actually somewhat addressed in Origins, which I know you haven't played. Dwarves might not dream, but if an outside entity (like a demon) forces their mind into the Fade, then they can be conscious within the Fade until they are awakened or die. Similar things happen if a non-mage human or elf is forced into the Fade: they are lucid and fully aware just like a mage. It's a lot of powerful mind trickery, but clearly dwarves DO have some kind of connection since they can be forced to dream.
So Marethari is the outside entity forcing Hawke and friends to lucid dream in the Fade via the magic ritual she was performing.
This was actually somewhat addressed in Origins, which I know you haven't played. Dwarves might not dream, but if an outside entity (like a demon) forces their mind into the Fade, then they can be conscious within the Fade until they are awakened or die. Similar things happen if a non-mage human or elf is forced into the Fade: they are lucid and fully aware just like a mage. It's a lot of powerful mind trickery, but clearly dwarves DO have some kind of connection since they can be forced to dream.
So Marethari is the outside entity forcing Hawke and friends to lucid dream in the Fade via the magic ritual she was performing.
So who was forcing the Dwarf inquisitor to dream in that conversation with Solas?
Bahaha. Solas is too tempting not to discuss! I like my characters as I do my cakes: layered and with icing on top. Solas is just too much fun to resist talking about*sigh* Couldn't resist after all.
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*sigh* I so utterly failed at keeping out of this discussion.
So who was forcing the Dwarf inquisitor to dream in that conversation with Solas?
The anchor. The anchor FORCES a fade connection onto its bearer, that's partly how the thing works. In a way, it kinda turns its bearer into a mage in that you become able to use some form of magic and gain a very strong fade connection rivaling dreamers (people who can seek other's minds from the fade like you do to Solas). Only reason you don't become a true mage is that you still don't have mana inside you even with the anchor, and mana is absolutely needed to use actual spells. So yes, this does mean even a dwarf is made into a quasi-mage. The anchor affects a dwarf more than it does any other race since it does the most extreme changes like not dreaming at all when sleeping to dreaming with enough focus to find other people's sleeping minds. The anchor breaks a lot of rules.
I didn't mean DLC, I meant forthcoming media that will serve to bridge the gap to the next game, which many speculate will find us heading north. And if David Gaider is writing another DA novel if he's writing Fenris again, it might, given where Fenris is as of DAI. Like how Asunder and The Masked Empire and the comics served between DA2 and DAI.
I saw the tweet about new Leliana lines.
Fenris? Fenris in the comic?
Mage hunter is not written by Gaider. Greg Rucka is writing it.
Edit: Do not feed my Fenris addiction. I read the article like 6 times to make sure...that picture of Fenris is deceiving.
Oh. *sulks*
I think this is amazing but I would've added the part where he def doesn't want to sabotage the mission telling them like '' Hey I'm Fen'Harel, ''god'' you hate so much and btw that orb is mine and I gave it to Cory and fucked everything up and now we all pay for it... DO YOU MIND ME STILL HELPING YOU OUT? ''
XDDDDD I mean.. if I was in his place.. there was no way he could've confessed. But he definetely wanted to.. multiple times. Also the second kiss where he says '' you show a wisdom I have not seen since..... -deep silence- SINCE MY DEEPEST JORNEYS INTO THE ANCIENT MEMORIES OF THE FADE! '' He definetely wanted to tell her at that point already.
I read a thing on Tumblr in which Solas is trying to think of a reasonable number of years to say and then settles on 'the Fade' because he has no idea how long a lifespan should be.
Oh I hope the next game takes place in Tevinter. That would just be epic awesome.
I mean for me....
Origins=Dalish elf who did something awesome
DA2=Hawke. Hawke is Hawke.(Sometimes I think Hawke is her own race)
DAI=Dalish elf who did even more awesome
DA4 in the Tevinter=Let me play an elf slave that causes an absolute uproar in the Imperium. YEEEESSSSSS!!!!
Really anywhere is cool though. I think the only way I could truly be disappointed by a new DA game is another one never coming out.
If it takes place in Tevinter there's a chance Mae will be in the game as companion or advisor. Or just an important NPC.
For me:
DAO: Elven mage does something awesome.
DA2: Mage and her elven boyfriend do something awesome.
DAI: Elven mage does something awesome.
Art
Solas
http://tinkerbellboy...Solas-544184231
NSFW - a real shame it's a Trevelyan
http://pre08.deviant...san-d8zzu6v.jpg
Source - http://ioana-muresan...elyan-544188055
You sure you won't be in trouble or get banned from that? I mean, don't worry, we won't tell on you. But it's still risky 
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I've shared much much worse... we are pretty kewl in this thread about sharing smut and not reporting it. It has happened a few times... but I'm not going to stop sharing art because of a few prudes. :-P People don't have to click on the link.
I've shared much much worse... we are pretty kewl in this thread about sharing smut and not reporting it. It has happened a few times... but I'm not going to stop sharing art because of a few prudes. :-P People don't have to click on the link.
Much worse? Now I'm curious. Because the only way it could be "much worse" is if these are shots of nude Solas hanging or pointing free or a behind shot of a bent over Lavellan or her in a nude spread eagle. Or oral sex she's doing to him...
Yes indeed 
all of the above.
As long as we label such art NSFW there really haven't been many problems sharing. Sunny has been reported a few times..and I remember several months ago there was a huge discussion about labeling smut.. but really for the most part I feel safe sharing such things. If people start complaining or I start get reported a lot..I'll stop. I don't want people to be uncomfortable.
Yes indeed
As long as we label such art NSFW there really haven't been many problems sharing. Sunny has been reported a few times..and I remember several months ago there was a huge discussion about labeling smut.. but really for the most part I feel safe sharing such things. If people start complaining or I start get reported a lot..I'll stop. I don't want people to be uncomfortable.
I'm not "bothered". If you knew my internet history... Trust me, it takes way more than that to bother me.
LOL, that's pretty much how it went for me too.
Oooh, yes! I'd love to play as an elf slave in Tevinter! Elven slave causing an uproar in the Imperium? Ho ho ho!
This! Please, Bioware, please let there be race options for DA4.
If there is going to be any elf in Tevinter causing uproar it will be Fenris. I don't even care if we can't play as one. If it's based in Tevinter and Fenris is not there I quit.
This was actually somewhat addressed in Origins, which I know you haven't played. Dwarves might not dream, but if an outside entity (like a demon) forces their mind into the Fade, then they can be conscious within the Fade until they are awakened or die. Similar things happen if a non-mage human or elf is forced into the Fade: they are lucid and fully aware just like a mage. It's a lot of powerful mind trickery, but clearly dwarves DO have some kind of connection since they can be forced to dream.
So Marethari is the outside entity forcing Hawke and friends to lucid dream in the Fade via the magic ritual she was performing.
Okay . I have played origins but it's been such a long time.
If there is going to be any elf in Tevinter causing uproar it will be Fenris. I don't even care if we can't play as one. If it's based in Tevinter and Fenris is not there I quit.
If Fenris was in Tevinter during DAI punching slavers through the chest then all is forgiven about him not being with Hawke in DAI.
I have some hope that, because of just how well DAI sold, that we'll be getting more than just those two DLCs. A romance DLC would be out of the question though, given 80% of Inquisitors are human. I also expect to see more multiplayer updates in between too, but whatever's going on with Solas will definitely have to wait. Though I hope in whatever the next DLC is, we start to get some seeds.
Oh, I meant a romance DLC for everyone, not just Solasmancers :3 I think I remember reading a while back someone at Bioware mentioned that... sort of like how they did the Citadel DLC where you get some more interactions with your love interest. That's what I'd really love since we didn't get a whole lot of content!
I did finish my NSFW mini comic soooo....
Oh, I meant a romance DLC for everyone, not just Solasmancers :3 I think I remember reading a while back someone at Bioware mentioned that... sort of like how they did the Citadel DLC where you get some more interactions with your love interest. That's what I'd really love since we didn't get a whole lot of content!
Considering that Citadel was (AFAIK) quite a success (especially after the ending controversy) I wouldn't be totally surprised if they've at least thought of something like it for DAI. Not sure if we're going to see it though, especially that BW crew likely now works mostly on MEA and the new IP.... maybe if this upcoming DLC (and comic) is a success, they'll be eager to make it a reality?
TBH, I'll take anything that expands companion interactions. And I don't just mean romances.
Considering that Citadel was (AFAIK) quite a success (especially after the ending controversy) I wouldn't be totally surprised if they've at least thought of something like it for DAI. Not sure if we're going to see it though, especially that BW crew likely now works mostly on MEA and the new IP.... maybe if this upcoming DLC (and comic) is a success, they'll be eager to make it a reality?
TBH, I'll take anything that expands companion interactions. And I don't just mean romances.
The end of DAI felt influenced by Citadel in some ways. It wasn't abrupt, you could talk to everyone in a celebratory fashion (except for you know who *sigh*), it was happy and light. Though playing through that part for me through my Lavellan was like....she was glad everything ended well but talking to everyone and the whole party was like when you cannot get away from a social gathering fast enough. But you're the host or guest of honor and you feel terrible but have to mask it all.
My friends who didn't experience the game the first time the way I did, with a Solas romance, were like..... 
'why did you say you felt sad at the end?'
*sigh* Couldn't resist after all.
.................
In short, I really don't think he panicked, got cold feet, lost his nerve or any other synonymous idiom, I think he realized he took his little fantasy too far and ended up hurting both Lavellan and himself by not putting a stop to it at the beginning. I think maybe even he's incredibly out of practice with regard to his own feelings - he seems to trust himself, he has exquisite control of himself in a lot of situations, yet falling in love seems like such an easy, simple thing that I think he might even have been arrogant enough to think that he could just "deal with it" and he deluded himself into thinking that it wouldn't matter, or that it could also serve him. He might even have convinced himself about that, though I think he tried to pull away from Lavellan initially because he might disdain using such a tool for manipulation, but at any rate I'm pretty convinced that he thought all of this was a harmless little infatuation that suddenly turned serious before he realized it. That was a mistake on his part as he sees it, so he has to remedy it before it gets even worse, it's better to be hated by her and to have her suffer a clean break now rather than a protracted affair that has no foreseeable conclusion on the horizon. He's not omnipotent, he cannot know what their future holds, but it's fairly easy to guess that the ending would be a bad one unless he eliminated the threat beforehand.
continues....
Hi there. I liked your post very much and I think you might be commenting on parts of mine 
I used to think along those lines too regarding "cold feet", but I changed my mind over time. I don't believe Solas is typically a coward or anything, but I think that was a really really big moment and he just....couldn't. Lavellan becoming an instrument for further estrangement from everything "real" would just be unbearable.
When I consider the chain of events, I can't help but feel he went in believing he could make the relationship work. We have the Fade kiss and when we return to Skyhold, if Lavellan says something like "hey, if I misread you..." he's like "no no no...you didn't" etc..He doesn't want her to walk away. He sort of subtly pulls her back in so she stays in the convo. and eventually they agree to wait. Solas is the one to bring it back up on the balcony because I assume he's really thought it through. Lavellan has proven herself trustworthy and anyway, he's already lost by that point, right? He tells her he loves her. After that, he seems all in until Crestwood.
I'll add, that I don't believe he ever thought this would be a harmless infatuation. He was in love with her and I think he knew this was a real thing. As the player I even knew it from the first Fade scene. Everything between them always became so...intense...even with the humor options.
My interpretation is that he had some working scenarios in his head where he believed he could stay with L. I think one of them was telling her the truth (maybe in bite size chunks) when the time was right. The mistake was putting it off and allowing things to get that far when part of the foundation of their relationship was a lie. I think if he had told her sooner it would have been easier to come clean. Just look at her animations? She has no clue what's about to hit her. Zero. He has an unfair advantage and I think he hates that he allowed that to happen.
At the final moment he's looking at her and weighing his own deception and what it's going to cost. I think he just lost his nerve and told himself a story about how it would be better for both of them to just end it. I do believe he loves her and cannot face her look of fear or betrayal or enimity or agonized confusion or suffering or revulsion and see it's aimed at him. He's facing another kind of painful alienation and he'd rather do it to himself than have her do it to him.
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