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[Illyria]

There is a split second where you see the sudden realization in his eyes and eyebrows. It's subtle, but beautifully done and heartbreaking. It's not exactly 'deer in the headlights' but it's a moment that is there and visible and he has to make a decision and he does.

 

 

 

Mine have been the story relevant ones too but I just stumbled upon them without spoilers. I just play a character and go for whoever I (and my character, as I develop her and get a good feel for her) am most drawn to. And my first choice through a game usually ruins me for any other romance options. I don't replay games very often and if I do, there's usually a lot of time in between. DAI is different since I started a mage Lavellan nearly right away this time and while she has flirted with others, I'm doing another Solas romance with her.

 

My canon Lavellan, who I headcanoned as bi so having the most options actually worked with that, I actually thought would wind up with Sera, but Sera's thing with elfy-ness and how much less regard she gives for your decisions as an elf were hard to make work. And then I found myself more drawn to Solas anyway. Though Sera was super polarizing with my Lavellan, I love her, and plan an eventual Seramance. I know she loves qunari but actually thinking of making a cute Cadash for her. 

 

She also loves Cadash Inkies.  I would romance her with a cute dwarf but I really want to romance her with a mage, so that leaves Adaar.

 

I enjoy that version with the plant.

 

Tumblr with Solas positivity week has been so full of great art and posts today.

 

And surprisingly not toxic!

 

(oh Tumblr.  I have just about had it with you.)

[DustyTulip]

I have been catching up with the thread, you guys have been busy!   Loved all the discussions! 

 

Wanted to add my two pence to 'how Lavellan might meet Solas in the DLC topic'. My speculation is drowned in pragmatism because I just don't see Solas and Inky have a discussion where Solas tells her everything and explains that he is Fen'Harel. I would rather assume that coming to him, Inky would already know most of it because a) otherwise  that will be a veeeeery long scene - he has about several thousands years to catch up her on b)while this will be a fascinating scene for me personally, I am not sure how many other players that are not as invested in Solas would like 3 hours of history talk. So my thinking is:

 

- There will be some kind of threat or a mysterious event that Inky will go to investigate or (like suggested by the DLC survey) the anchor will start acting up and Inquisition will go on to investigate on how solve / cure this 

- While on their investigation, they will come across memories / codexes / etc about Elvhen pantheon and bit by bit will get a better understanding of what actually happened

- They will find out that Fen'Harel like, Mythal, is real, has woken up and is walking about in Thedas

- They will go to confront him because he could help with anchor or solve that mysterious event

- At the point of confronting, Inky will either figure out that Fen-Harel is Solas or will be shocked when she finds out it has been him all along

- Therefore the possible conversation where Solas explains everything will be more about 'why' rather than 'what'

 

What happens after, I am scared to even imagine because ALL THE FEELS 

 

 

p.s. realised I used 'two pence' expression instead of 'two cents' upon re-reading   Living in UK is getting to me

[CapricornSun]

Oh hey! More art.

 

Another pretty Solavellan artwork by yayoifumi.

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Source: http://yayoifumi.tum...st/123305776497

 

 

Solas' study, also by yayoifumi.

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Source: http://yayoifumi.tum...love-this-place

 

 

Solavellan WIP

Spoiler

Source: http://meiru-chan.tu...-jumping-on-the

 

 

Solas and m!Lavellan.

Spoiler

Source: http://soft-atlas.tu...ore-of-the-same

 

 

Solas is focused on his painting.

Spoiler

Source: http://onehundred-fa...s-so-focused-on

 

 

Nice sketch of Solas and a wolf.

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Source: http://hanba-ci.tumb...23302341014/o-o

 

 

Pretty elf prince.

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Source: http://kimberly-park...las-as-a-pretty

 

 

Concept!Solas.

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Source: http://ithesalesman....-hair-i-present

 

 

Fen'Harel

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Source: http://virahnfenhare...-day-2-fenharel

 

 

Team Tragic Magic. (Solas, Anders, and Snape)

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Source: http://nextcastle.tu...r-a-dear-friend

 

 

The Wolf Elf Boyfriends of Idiot Protagonists Club.

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Source: http://saiscribbles....n-my-dragon-age

 

[Solas]

I'm afraid to take part in solaspos week because for me it's like

 

meta about why you like solas?: "cuz hes flawed in all of the following ways xyz"

fav fanfic with solas in it?: "probably this one where it ends tragically for him and everyone involved"

fav solas quotes: "this one where he was bein a giant ass to this other character"

 

 

[Kadust]

Uh.. I'm bummed.

 

My first playthrough i end up romancing Solas, because he's Solas. Then i get dumped and he disappears after promising me he would explain?  AAAAAAAAAAH. This better be explained in the last DLC - if not, in the next game.

 

/cries

[Solas]

Welcome 

[NightSymphony]

Thank you so much for sharing all this art from Solas Week, Sunny!  I tried to look around tumblr and I got so lost and confused.     

[NightSymphony]

Let's see if Deviant Art has anything new...

 

FadeWalker

http://oddmoy.devian...alker-544442786

 

Umm...WTF???

http://gelasticat.de...ation-544433427

 

Fen'Heral

http://yaralia.devia...Harel-544415550

 

Dread Wolf

http://flufs.deviant...-wolf-544293096

 

Throw the Dwarf!

http://opelb.deviant...AT-IT-544361216

[BoscoBread]

I'm afraid to take part in solaspos week because for me it's like

 

meta about why you like solas?: "cuz hes flawed in all of the following ways xyz"

fav fanfic with solas in it?: "probably this one where it ends tragically for him and everyone involved"

fav solas quotes: "this one where he was bein a giant ass to this other character"

 

 

I'm actually sort of meh about positivity weeks myself.  I don't understand their purpose.  Like I could get if you would want to celebrate the character.  So like SOLAS WEEK. But the "positivity" thing is what throws me(and this is for ALL of the ones I've seen).   It's just the way discourse about a character is set up on tumblr - like for you people might ****** and moan and ask you to tag what you like as solas critcial.    And that shuts down REASONABLE and chill discourse about a character because you get flooded with b.s. from people that are so compromised(and I mean this as a negative) any criticism is a perceived insult against their person.  

 

Nikki-Tikki made a Cullen video - http://vhenantrash.t...ecides-to-freak

 

Clearly in jest and totally gentle ribbing.  We got WEIRD people coming out of the wood-work defending Cullen and being like 'wahh he is a good commander he never did this'. It's a joke folks!  I've even got **** on here for some of the more irreverant things I've posted EXCEPT - a majority of the 2k plus posts I have - is me contributing in good faith with good discussion to the thread.  So fandoms in general are really odd and like...need to chill. 

 

So at the end of the day - there isn't a "right" way to be a fan.  You like a good character, a more complicated character(SAMSON WOOO) or even HATE a character but you love hating them and are drawn to discuss them. 

[Illyria]

I'm actually sort of meh about positivity weeks myself.  I don't understand their purpose.  Like I could get if you would want to celebrate the character.  So like SOLAS WEEK. But the "positivity" thing is what throws me(and this is for ALL of the ones I've seen).   It's just the way discourse about a character is set up on tumblr - like for you people might ****** and moan and ask you to tag what you like as solas critcial.    And that shuts down REASONABLE and chill discourse about a character because you get flooded with b.s. from people that are so compromised(and I mean this as a negative) any criticism is a perceived insult against their person.  

 

Nikki-Tikki made a Cullen video - http://vhenantrash.t...ecides-to-freak

 

Clearly in jest and totally gentle ribbing.  We got WEIRD people coming out of the wood-work defending Cullen and being like 'wahh he is a good commander he never did this'. It's a joke folks!  I've even got **** on here for some of the more irreverant things I've posted EXCEPT - a majority of the 2k plus posts I have - is me contributing in good faith with good discussion to the thread.  So fandoms in general are really odd and like...need to chill. 

 

So at the end of the day - there isn't a "right" way to be a fan.  You like a good character, a more complicated character(SAMSON WOOO) or even HATE a character but you love hating them and are drawn to discuss them. 

 

Tumblr is... odd.  People get really protective over their headcanons and stuff.  And there's this real lack of disagreement but not in a good way.  Here we debate and share our theories and are happy to point out flaws in characters we love.  In tumblr there's this tendency to just... echo each other.

 

(I made the mistake of going into the Fenris tag.  That place is toxic).

[Commander of the Grey]

Anyone know why there is a 2gb update file? I've been outta the loop for a while.

[midnight tea]

Patch 8 is up. It's a MP-focused patch, though there are indicators that there might be more than that, based on file size alone.

[midnight tea]

Tumblr is... odd.  People get really protective over their headcanons and stuff.  And there's this real lack of disagreement but not in a good way.  Here we debate and share our theories and are happy to point out flaws in characters we love.  In tumblr there's this tendency to just... echo each other.

 

(I made the mistake of going into the Fenris tag.  That place is toxic).

 

I'm still to 'get' tumblr. I remember a few years ago when there was mass exodus from places like deviantART on tumblr, be it because people were tired with dA or drama on it. Talk about irony....

[Illyria]

I'm still to 'get' tumblr. I remember a few years ago when there was mass exodus from places like deviantART on tumblr, be it because people were tired with dA or drama on it. Talk about irony....

 

It's a strange place.  There's a lot of good on it, but it's also a highly toxic enviroment.

[S.W.]

I think it can really depend on the fandom. On tumblr, I follow loads of Steven Universe fans - who are hilarious and sweet and good natured - despite the fact that I don't watch the show or care about it, just because they're pretty awesome people. On the other hand, I've tried to avoid bioware fans on tumblr because... I don't know, they seem to take it too seriously? (Also my blog is 90% shitposts and politics, and I try not to subject people I already know to that willingly haha).

 

Agreed in that tumblr is really toxic. It can be a bit like an echo chamber at times, in that you control who you follow and what content you see, and so people can get trapped in a little bubble.

 

I mean I love fiction passionately but I find it bizarre when people defend their favourite character like their best friend.

[Commander of the Grey]

@Midnight Tea: Thank you. I won't lie, I freaked out a little. xD

I've been reading through the last few pages and I just wanted to add a few things of my own if I may. I know some don't like the way Solas handled the 'end' of the relationship and I get why. I'm in the camp of not being mad at him at all and the main reason isn't that I understand (as the player) what he's trying to do but because of his last words. What we had was real.

Directly after the breakup he shut down emotionally. Cory was more important at that moment and both of you needed to focus. And after Cory's defeat, when I think he realized that he had to leave, he lowered his guard down and let his heart show one last time to reassure her that it wasn't a mistake, and there were no regrets as far as his love was concerned. It was real and it matters.

Without that line, my Quiz would feel very differently. To me it doesn't matter that he said it and then left but that he took the time to reassure her at all. That's my way of looking at it though. Quiet member of Team Optimism over here~ *waves flag*

[Cee]

She also loves Cadash Inkies.  I would romance her with a cute dwarf but I really want to romance her with a mage, so that leaves Adaar.

 

 

And surprisingly not toxic!

 

(oh Tumblr.  I have just about had it with you.)

 

I've thought about class too and figure I will run them as rogues together. Not my usual party composition, but I just don't like playing warriors in these games, I guess.

 

As for the Tumblr stuff, these positivity weeks are something I can get on board with because they often focus on characters that get a lot of hate. Or maybe misunderstood. So it's a little beacon for people who aren't necessarily looking for critical talk (even though talking about characters you like in a critical way is also a good thing). But these types of loosely, but still organized also serve to encourage people to submit or to create so they're ways to get the fandom a little more active.

 

The regular tags are still there, the criticism doesn't disappear, but the fact it's set up and organized weeks in advance to give people time to create and share as a community....well, I like that.

 

And it's less toxic.

[Illyria]

I think it can really depend on the fandom. On tumblr, I follow loads of Steven Universe fans - who are hilarious and sweet and good natured - despite the fact that I don't watch the show or care about it, just because they're pretty awesome people. On the other hand, I've tried to avoid bioware fans on tumblr because... I don't know, they seem to take it too seriously? (Also my blog is 90% shitposts and politics, and I try not to subject people I already know to that willingly haha).

 

Agreed in that tumblr is really toxic. It can be a bit like an echo chamber at times, in that you control who you follow and what content you see, and so people can get trapped in a little bubble.

 

I mean I love fiction passionately but I find it bizarre when people defend their favourite character like their best friend.

 

There's a trend of constantly sharing opinions on the characters like they're fact, and then getting offended when someone from outside the bubble comes in and says 'uh, no.  That's not right.'  And this constant getting on Bioware's case for not being good enough when it comes to representation.  It's just tiring.  No wonder the devs never interact with the fans anymore.

[Cee]

I'm still to 'get' tumblr. I remember a few years ago when there was mass exodus from places like deviantART on tumblr, be it because people were tired with dA or drama on it. Talk about irony....

 

I'm still 'getting' Tumblr, but by carefully curating, I have come to like it.

 

I just realized that Tumblr has never sent me a single notification until like...yesterday, even though I have it in my settings to get them. So if anyone but the one person I was notified about followed me or reblogged things I never saw it. Whoops. I also tend to hate most people's layouts because they make the text microscopic and and navigation like a scavenger hunt.

 

But, despite its gigantic quirks and clunkiness, there are a lot of good people and posts so I've been there more in the past 6mo than since I signed up. I don't post very much but I enjoy a lot of the art and discussions.

 

The art sharing for fandom stuff is one of the reasons I started going more (I put the Tumblr app on my tablet yesterday too), though I still maintain my DA account.

 

Having the app in time for all the Solas stuff was a good move. Or a bad one since, well...

[Cee]

There's a trend of constantly sharing opinions on the characters like they're fact, and then getting offended when someone from outside the bubble comes in and says 'uh, no.  That's not right.'  And this constant getting on Bioware's case for not being good enough when it comes to representation.  It's just tiring.  No wonder the devs never interact with the fans anymore.

 

There are definitely whole groups of people who 1) Don't know how to criticize anything without resorting to belligerence, insults, whatever and 2) People who don't know how to accept criticism of their faves.

 

This is different than people who simply have different reads on a character or maybe aren't going past the surface. Personally, I've seen a few, like from the DA Confessions Tumblr, of people who seem to not bother to look past the surface when it comes to a character like Solas. But this isn't extreme reactions. Personal opinions are one thing but starting crap with someone else or plugging ears to criticism is where it gets heated.

 

ToP? Have a captaincaranis shot

 

[midnight tea]

I'm still 'getting' Tumblr, but by carefully curating, I have come to like it.

 

I just realized that Tumblr has never sent me a single notification until like...yesterday, even though I have it in my settings to get them. So if anyone but the one person I was notified about followed me or reblogged things I never saw it. Whoops. I also tend to hate most people's layouts because they make the text microscopic and and navigation like a scavenger hunt.

 

But, despite its gigantic quirks and clunkiness, there are a lot of good people and posts so I've been there more in the past 6mo than since I signed up. I don't post very much but I enjoy a lot of the art and discussions.

 

The art sharing for fandom stuff is one of the reasons I started going more (I put the Tumblr app on my tablet yesterday too), though I still maintain my DA account.

 

Having the app in time for all the Solas stuff was a good move. Or a bad one since, well...

 

I've had tumblr account for years, but I'm yet to do anything about it.... Admittedly though, ALL my accounts, pretty much everywhere, haven't been updated for a veeery long time. Gotta finally update my dA account at least.... Been there for 11 years. Gawd, time just flies o_O....

[Cee]

I've had tumblr account for years, but I'm yet to do anything about it.... Admittedly though, ALL my accounts, pretty much everywhere, haven't been updated for a veeery long time. Gotta finally update my dA account at least.... Been there for 11 years. Gawd, time just flies o_O....

 

My Tumblr account is years old too and my DA account is 11 years old as well. I've only really begun to try and use Tumblr this year because those things that bother me about the site used to be worse and REALLY bother me. Or I'm just old and tiny navigation is for fresher eyes.

 

But once I realized how to use it - curate, mute tags, etc, it has been a good experience.

[BoscoBread]

I've thought about class too and figure I will run them as rogues together. Not my usual party composition, but I just don't like playing warriors in these games, I guess.

 

As for the Tumblr stuff, these positivity weeks are something I can get on board with because they often focus on characters that get a lot of hate. Or maybe misunderstood. So it's a little beacon for people who aren't necessarily looking for critical talk (even though talking about characters you like in a critical way is also a good thing). But these types of loosely, but still organized also serve to encourage people to submit or to create so they're ways to get the fandom a little more active.

 

The regular tags are still there, the criticism doesn't disappear, but the fact it's set up and organized weeks in advance to give people time to create and share as a community....well, I like that.

 

And it's less toxic.

But criticism isn't toxic.  And that's actually not very true, tags tend to get MORE **** trolling on these advertised weeks than not.  Again, I'm for celebration of the character and content creation because the fandom(DA) is dying a bit since we are so far from release, but these "positivity" weeks are so bizarre. Like what does that even mean? I am "Solas Positive" - I enjoy his character and engage the community meaningfully. Am I not Solas positive because I think his most compelling ending is death for various reasons that I've discussed?  Am I not Solas positive if I think his most compelling friendship and relationship is with Cassandra?  Am I not Solas positive that I prefer my Lavellan as the Inquisitor and don't define her by her relationship with Solas?  All these questions in more!  According to general tumblr - I am not.  And am not discussing him the "right" way.  AND  That's not actually critical discussion. That's just preference.  Have fun trying to talk about his character in-depth. 

 

And that's not just for Solas.  I have actual and significant issues with Cullen's character(and the writing) and am happy to discuss them in good faith and not be rude or combative but like...holy ****...the fandom. Must protect Disney Prince at all costs...from jokes involving an Office episode 5 years old.  Same problem with Anders fans. 

 

You will get weird vague blogging or **** messages.  I don't have time for that b.s. - I've had enough tumblr drama to last me a lifetime and it wasn't even the worst I've seen.   Bioware tumblr is WACK-A-DOO!  Like the bar for #[character] critical is INSANE.  Like you have to essentially be so praising it's almost disturbing.  Like someone said - these characters AREN'T your friends. These characters aren't real. Yes, the feelings they evoke ARE, but the story is prompting you to feel that way.  You can be sad when a character dies. Or even feel that it was unjustified. Or etc etc. but to take it to the point where you are becoming personally involved in their well-being is... not ok. And I'll leave it there.

[Illyria]

But criticism isn't toxic.  And that's actually not very true, tags tend to get MORE **** trolling on these advertised weeks than not.  Again, I'm for celebration of the character and content creation because the fandom(DA) is dying a bit since we are so far from release, but these "positivity" weeks are so bizarre. Like what does that even mean? I am "Solas Positive" - I enjoy his character and engage the community meaningfully. Am I not Solas positive because I think his most compelling ending is death for various reasons that I've discussed?  Am I not Solas positive if I think his most compelling friendship and relationship is with Cassandra?  Am I not Solas positive that I prefer my Lavellan as the Inquisitor and don't define her by her relationship with Solas?  All these questions in more!  According to general tumblr - I am not.  And am not discussing him the "right" way.  AND  That's not actually critical discussion. That's just preference.  Have fun trying to talk about his character in-depth. 

 

And that's not just for Solas.  I have actual and significant issues with Cullen's character(and the writing) and am happy to discuss them in good faith and not be rude or combative but like...holy ****...the fandom. Must protect Disney Prince at all costs...from jokes involving an Office episode 5 years old.  Same problem with Anders fans. 

 

You will get weird vague blogging or **** messages.  I don't have time for that b.s. - I've had enough tumblr drama to last me a lifetime and it wasn't even the worst I've seen.   Bioware tumblr is WACK-A-DOO!  Like the bar for #[character] critical is INSANE.  Like you have to essentially be so praising it's almost disturbing.  Like someone said - these characters AREN'T your friends. These characters aren't real. Yes, the feelings they evoke ARE, but the story is prompting you to feel that way.  You can be sad when a character dies. Or even feel that it was unjustified. Or etc etc. but to take it to the point where you are becoming personally involved in their well-being is... not ok. And I'll leave it there.

 

*marries this post*

 

I can marry more than one post, right?

[Cee]

But criticism isn't toxic.  And that's actually not very true, tags tend to get MORE **** trolling on these advertised weeks than not.  Again, I'm for celebration of the character and content creation because the fandom(DA) is dying a bit since we are so far from release, but these "positivity" weeks are so bizarre. Like what does that even mean? I am "Solas Positive" - I enjoy his character and engage the community meaningfully. Am I not Solas positive because I think his most compelling ending is death for various reasons that I've discussed?  Am I not Solas positive if I think his most compelling friendship and relationship is with Cassandra?  Am I not Solas positive that I prefer my Lavellan as the Inquisitor and don't define her by her relationship with Solas?  All these questions in more!  According to general tumblr - I am not.  And am not discussing him the "right" way.  AND  That's not actually critical discussion. That's just preference.  Have fun trying to talk about his character in-depth. 

 

And that's not just for Solas.  I have actual and significant issues with Cullen's character(and the writing) and am happy to discuss them in good faith and not be rude or combative but like...holy ****...the fandom. Must protect Disney Prince at all costs...from jokes involving an Office episode 5 years old.  Same problem with Anders fans. 

 

You will get weird vague blogging or **** messages.  I don't have time for that b.s. - I've had enough tumblr drama to last me a lifetime and it wasn't even the worst I've seen.   Bioware tumblr is WACK-A-DOO!  Like the bar for #[character] critical is INSANE.  Like you have to essentially be so praising it's almost disturbing.  Like someone said - these characters AREN'T your friends. These characters aren't real. Yes, the feelings they evoke ARE, but the story is prompting you to feel that way.  You can be sad when a character dies. Or even feel that it was unjustified. Or etc etc. but to take it to the point where you are becoming personally involved in their well-being is... not ok. And I'll leave it there.

 

Um, I never said criticism is toxic. Just the opposite. I said some people have issues in attempting to criticize but they are belligerent or think something isn't open to criticism. Hence some people in those corners of fandom who don't know how to have a civil discussion about anything including flaws in characters they love.

 

Learning to mute tags and curate who you follow is important anywhere, really.