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I saw some of the banter and I started to remember the rest of them but to me it didn't seem that they are good friends. They get along well and it seems that they respect each others and share their opinions. But to me it didn't seem that they are good friends or even friends. I guess I just see it differently.

 

I'd say that aside form befriended/romanced Inquisitor - and Cole perhaops, due to him being spirit - he and Cassandra share the strongest bond. While he has his reservations about everyone (aside from highly approved Inquisitor, I suppose) Solas seems to truly respect both the strength of her faith as well as her dedication to truth.

 

I think in many respects they're both very similar - at least when it comes to saving something they think is necessary for the world.

Despite its shortcomings, Cassandra wants to save and reform the Chantry, because she thinks that it's not beyond saving and may yet play important role in giving people hope, stability as well as balance power in Thedas (though that last role is, I think, what successful Inquisition is built for).

And I think Solas may have similar sentiments towards whatever was left of ancient elves, their gods and ancient magic (btw. I think tat the final goal of both Flemeth and Solas is to decide the fate of magic in Thedas).

Morrigan (and by extension Flemeth, who raised her) seems to mirror these sentiments when she says (I paraphrase here) "there was a lot of bad, but there's also good in ancient magic and forgotten secrets, therefore I must fight for their sake and their survival".


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Oh. I guess this is where you and I differ - I found Corypheus was more tragic with the extra material and his writing poor in game. But this is my opinion and certainly not fact.  Obviously you disagree.

 

As for Solas - no I didn't need it either. That was my point. I found the relationship plenty of emotional without the PW interview.  I thought that interview was totally unncessary and the info. presented in it, worven in the DLC or new game and in the conclusion to the romance.  If I was writing it, I would have preferred to keep the audience questioning - even a little - if he was sincere.  But again, opinion. 

 

I didn't mean to come off as hostile, sorry!  :unsure: It's not that I disagree entirely, I mean, I'm sure Corypheus' story would have been much deeper if the external material were implemented; and I concede that without Legacy, my opinion might have been very different on this point. Just basing his character on what I know from Legacy and what I see in DAI, however, I did find him terribly tragic (and I haven't even really delved all that deep into outside material to date), just from the way he phrased things and the tidbits that I picked up from Inquisition sources. Also, the way his decisions are paced and the way his story ended, as something almost insignificant by the time we reached the end of the game, that I found very poignant. I remember him as this terrifying creature that called out desperately to his god in Legacy, and in DAI I saw a disillusioned creature that spread his bitterness like a plague into everything he touched, yet he was always a step behind somehow. Not to mention his comment on the throne of the gods being empty - just the way that line was delivered was a compact tour of what his essence is all about, and it's certainly a lot less confident and arrogant as his words are.

 

Yes, I agree with this on Solas entirely. That's what I was trying to say.  :lol:

 

Ugh, I guess I'm not great at communicating today.  :bandit:


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Yeah...I can never drink from the Well. I didn't in my first play through because if Solas wouldn't I certainly wasn't going to. In subsequent play throughs I didn't because I was afraid Mythal would make me do something unpleasant to Solas in the future. Yup, I see Thedas through Solas colored glasses.

There needs to be some fall out from the geas in DLC. I'm still miffed about those darn indecipherable elven codices.

 

 

I usually complete everything (zones, companion quests, etc.) before Temple of Mythal, so I can go straight to finale, just in case I wanted to replay TOM and switch from Morrigan to my IQ... for the sake of squeezing additional drama out of DLC (in case Well played any role in it) :D

 

I drink. Every. Time. The way I see it, there's infinetely more drama if it's the Inquisitor who drinks (I never played DAO and I'm not very attached to Morrigan). I like teh drama :) Besides, I play my IQ as someone who is very eager for knowledge/power, so I see no way she would give up the opportunity. 


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I didn't mean to come off as hostile, sorry!  :unsure: It's not that I disagree entirely, I mean, I'm sure Corypheus' story would have been much deeper if the external material were implemented; and I concede that without Legacy, my opinion might have been very different on this point. Just basing his character on what I know from Legacy and what I see in DAI, however, I did find him terribly tragic (and I haven't even really delved all that deep into outside material to date), just from the way he phrased things and the tidbits that I picked up from Inquisition sources. Also, the way his decisions are paced and the way his story ended, as something almost insignificant by the time we reached the end of the game, that I found very poignant. I remember him as this terrifying creature that called out desperately to his god in Legacy, and in DAI I saw a disillusioned creature that spread his bitterness like a plague into everything he touched, yet he was always a step behind somehow. Not to mention his comment on the throne of the gods being empty - just the way that line was delivered was a compact tour of what his essence is all about, and it's certainly a lot less confident and arrogant as his words are.

 

Yes, I agree with this on Solas entirely. That's what I was trying to say.  :lol:

 

Ugh, I guess I'm not great at communicating today.  :bandit:

Yeah - that was my bad too.  Cory is special to me - mostly because Giton's beauteous fanfics that have explored his character really well.   Also, characters dealing with faith is such is a very big pull for me(also why Cassandra is such a big favorite of mine). 

 

Yeah, I agree, there are some tid-bits - but there was a whole bit in the canticle of silence about how he just wants to see Dumat. Since the whispers went silent.  Then they start up again but he wants to confirm it's real Then - at the end - he finds faith again before he "dies".  Then he gets the douche Inquisitor line "GET BACK TO THE FADE BRO"(or something like it).  So I found his handling a little...crappy...when you actually sit down and gather all that you can about his character and the Architect.  My poor magister babies.  

 

What I found sad was that - by the end - it becomes Solas' story and not Corypheus.  I understand Solas is important but if they had actually done more with Cory - what he deals with - it could have tied in very well when you face Solas later ESPECIALLY if you're a hardcore Dalish elf.  I can't tell you how many people missed the boat on the point of Cory and his overall tragedy - pretty much most of the fandom.  It shoudlnt' be THAT difficult to see this stuff. And it was. So something that could have been extra powerful became sort of shallow and I weep for what could have been. Maybe I'm overestimating the average videogame player though can grasp though...cries.


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@Gwyvian, I like your theory! It's funny you mention King Arthur, as I was watching the Mists of Avalon the other night, and I was thinking something similar....about the Inquisitor. But I could see Solas having accomplished something like that in his day. Explains why both sides felt betrayed when he....did whatever it was he did, and his confusion over who his "people" are if he had one foot in one tribe/faction, and the other in a new one at court. I wonder if this is what he considers to be the mistake? When you split your loyalties like that sometimes one side ends up getting hurt, or both.

As for the political theory, in light of the JOH codex on the Forgotten Ones, I think you might be right. It does sound like they were having an argument about "divine right of kings" or something similar with the whole "deeds" vs "nature" thing. I don't know if the political pararells are intentional, DAI is the most spiritual themed of the series so far, but I see it. The only problem there is Morrigan at the well, when she speculates that the gods were just ancient rulers (and thus long dead and powerless). Solas implies she's wrong. Clearly the Creators weren't just regular elves masquerading as gods, but they really ~were~ more powerful and had abilities others didn't, if not being actual gods. Which begs the question about what makes a "god" in the first place.

 

Thank you! :D

Well, it's only natural to think of the Inquisitor as this type of hero, since the purpose of such a fantasy is exactly that a hero embarks on a quest - and as is true of games, you play that hero instead of just following their story, as is true with other genre fiction media, so spot on. Regarding Solas in his time, I think there's definitely something to be said for the dangers of playing for both teams, it would make sense that the only possible outcome would be... dramatic, to say the least.

 

As to the spiritual and political themes of DA: I agree, it's primarily more spiritual, but I'm convinced that this is merely the surface - this could be considered as literally the politics of the spiritual world, there is plenty of mysticism, yet more than enough room for "real world anchors" as I like to call them. Things that you can relate to in your everyday existence that helps you translate the spiritual content into mundane realities, making the mundane extraordinary and the spiritual content less overawing and more palpable.

 

Morrigan is a good point - I'd say that this is another case in point that the spiritual and political implications are actually inextricably intertwined. It is clear that the pantheon do have powers beyond the comprehension of "mere mortals" like Morrigan, yet I think Morrigan wasn't wrong when considering them rulers; the difference being that the actual hierarchy did not even remotely resemble the rules of modern Thedas, i.e. they actually had things to back up their claims of godhood, and the people chose to accept that. Also, we don't know much about the people who they ruled, I have to point out, comparatively a commoner of Arlathan could have been considered almost godlike in modern Thedas, so that means that the ruler of such a person, let alone a god, would have to be that much more impressive, and to this again I'd point out the pharaohs - it is not an unheard of concept to elevate equals to a godlike status because of their rulership, and this being a fantasy game, why not make that happen in a more literal sense and actually give them powers that sets them apart? The human myths were generated based on firm beliefs that tend to be reinforced by a whole host of things, so for the people of that time, these things were self-evident and true to most, if not all. To the elves, it could have been that from the pantheon's perspective, they knew they were different, if not gods, and they exploited that fact to elevate themselves above all other elves.


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*pats arm* 

I really didn't like the final line the Inquisitor had for him. :(


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For the Arthurian comparisons, back when we thought Flemeth dragged Maric into her tent to have her witchy way with him in The Stolen Throne to produce Morrigan, there was a lot of parallels we thought we had uncovered. This would have led to the proper amount of incest for a myth considering the dark ritual. I guess the idea is that Alistair was Maric/Uther's bastard child, and Morrigan was Morgan le Fay? (I'm not that well-versed in Arthurian myth.) The underground is considered to be the Stone by the dwarves, and Maric certainly pulled a magic sword out of there? :P

Of course, the revelation that Maric's chastity was unharmed by Flemeth put the kibosh on that theory.  :unsure:

(Calenhad is the local Arthur analogue, I'd guess. With the mage mentor, the court riven by scandal and romance, he got his magical armaments from a lake...)

And yes, I did make a Merlin Amell uber-mage to become BFF's with Alistair and romance Morrigan as the closest person to Nimue around.

And yes, that was my first Zevran romance playthrough.  :lol:

 

Any actual Arthurian aficionados feel free to line me up against a wall and open fire.  :lol:


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I think Cory's diary entries should have been at Dumat's temple no matter which side you recruit. They offer an insight to his motivation that's desperately needed.

 

My Lavellan was having a serious crisis of faith after the temple and meeting Flemythal but she had no idea she and her adversary share common ground because she has the mages.  


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Yeah - that was my bad too.  Cory is special to me - mostly because Giton's beauteous fanfics that have explored his character really well.   Also, characters dealing with faith is such is a very big pull for me(also why Cassandra is such a big favorite of mine). 

 

Yeah, I agree, there are some tid-bits - but there was a whole bit in the canticle of silence about how he just wants to see Dumat. Since the whispers went silent.  Then they start up again but he wants to confirm it's real Then - at the end - he finds faith again before he "dies".  Then he gets the douche Inquisitor line "GET BACK TO THE FADE BRO"(or something like it).  So I found his handling a little...crappy...when you actually sit down and gather all that you can about his character and the Architect.  My poor magister babies.  

 

What I found sad was that - by the end - it becomes Solas' story and not Corypheus.  I understand Solas is important but if they had actually done more with Cory - what he deals with - it could have tied in very well when you face Solas later ESPECIALLY if you're a hardcore Dalish elf.  I can't tell you how many people missed the boat on the point of Cory and his overall tragedy - pretty much most of the fandom.  It shoudlnt' be THAT difficult to see this stuff. And it was. So something that could have been extra powerful became sort of shallow and I weep for what could have been. Maybe I'm overestimating the average videogame player though can grasp though...cries.

 

Yeah, my general impression is that a lot of this kind of deep stuff just goes unnoticed for a lot of players - though I find people here to be an exception. So I'm pretty sure that you are right, the way that Corypheus was handled will mean that most people miss the tragedy and that in and of itself is tragic.

 

Perhaps later on there will be more info on Corypheus that we dig up, kind of like an aftermath sort of exploration of who and what he truly was - there are still a lot of very important and disturbing questions left unanswered that Thedas really needs to answer, such as how someone like Corypheus could even come about and what the implications are. I can't imagine them ignoring that and so far continuity of lore hasn't been weak, so I think there is hope. I like, for instance, how different sides were presented on the factions we grew so attached to starting at DA:O, which tells me that we will get opportunities to examine these questions in hindsight.

 

I kind of liked the transition of importance from Corypheus, to be honest, not because I think he couldn't have been handled better, but because it breaks away from the stereotype of "vanquished evil" - by the point you do any vanquishing, you realize that it's all so much more insignificant than the broader mystery that you've unwittingly stumbled into, and -  at least for me this is true - you realize that Corypheus never was your true enemy, nor is he the larger than life terrible and undefeatable monster that he was made out to be at first. That I liked, though I think with more background on Corypheus, perhaps that point would have been driven even deeper, I don't know.


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@Kissibear, I kinda wanted to smack my Quizzy for that line at the end too. I agree, there are so many interesting parallels between Cory and other characters including Solas, Cassandra, Leliana, and the Inquisitior him/herself that I wished it had been explored in more depth. I like that we are rewarded for digging into the lore and backstory though. But there were some things only hinted at/suggested.
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For the Arthurian comparisons, back when we thought Flemeth dragged Maric into her tent to have her witchy way with him in The Stolen Throne to produce Morrigan, there was a lot of parallels we thought we had uncovered. This would have led to the proper amount of incest for a myth considering the dark ritual. I guess the idea is that Alistair was Maric/Uther's bastard child, and Morrigan was Morgan le Fay? (I'm not that well-versed in Arthurian myth.) The underground is considered to be the Stone by the dwarves, and Maric certainly pulled a magic sword out of there? :P

Of course, the revelation that Maric's chastity was unharmed by Flemeth put the kibosh on that theory.  :unsure:

(Calenhad is the local Arthur analogue, I'd guess. With the mage mentor, the court riven by scandal and romance, he got his magical armaments from a lake...)

And yes, I did make a Merlin Amell uber-mage to become BFF's with Alistair and romance Morrigan as the closest person to Nimue around.

And yes, that was my first Zevran romance playthrough.  :lol:

 

Any actual Arthurian aficionados feel free to line me up against a wall and open fire.  :lol:

 

I'd say actually that Alistair would be Arthur (with Cousland potentially as a Gwenhyfar), Morrigan is Morgan la Fey and their unwillingly conceived child is Mordred, buuut then who is Lancelot? :D

 

So perhaps a better parallel is Uther and Igraine, Maric and Fiona (wedded to "another husband" i.e. the Wardens), but then again, Morrigan would have to be Fiona's child (who is to say she's not in all honesty....? I jest, that would be way too wild.)

 

...Nope, no matter how I look at it, the parallels are kind of vague, although I think that Alistair is kind of a perfect Arthur (he's also a bastard child who rose to rule a united kingdom) and Morrigan and her Dark Ritual make for a perfect setup of the bastard child Mordred, the only thing missing is that they are not siblings, not even halfway.

 

But yes, Calenhad is perhaps even better. Overall I see a repetative theme here in the Theirin family, so maybe the Arthurian legends were actually "diced up" between the generations. (Maric is kind of perfect as Arthur, too, what with his... love triangles.)

 

Hahaha, Zevran as Lancelot.... hhahaahhahaha.  :lol:


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For the Arthurian comparisons, back when we thought Flemeth dragged Maric into her tent to have her witchy way with him in The Stolen Throne to produce Morrigan, there was a lot of parallels we thought we had uncovered. This would have led to the proper amount of incest for a myth considering the dark ritual. I guess the idea is that Alistair was Maric/Uther's bastard child, and Morrigan was Morgan le Fay? (I'm not that well-versed in Arthurian myth.) The underground is considered to be the Stone by the dwarves, and Maric certainly pulled a magic sword out of there? :P
Of course, the revelation that Maric's chastity was unharmed by Flemeth put the kibosh on that theory.  :unsure:
(Calenhad is the local Arthur analogue, I'd guess. With the mage mentor, the court riven by scandal and romance, he got his magical armaments from a lake...)


In that latest David Gaider interview about Origins I think he did say they were going for a sort of Morgan le Fay thing with Morrigan, with the whole dark ritual thing. But it sounds like they didn't end up taking the idea that far, so who knows. They are clearly putting their own spin on things, even if there was some inspiration there.
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@ Gwyvian

 

I really like what you posted and I think it is a well thought-out theory. I hope Bioware give us some more details about the Creators and Forgotten Ones along with a bit more insight into the society of Elvhenan. There are just so many questions many of which we have discussed here. Like the conversation that we had several pages back on how slavery would even work in a society where everyone is immortal and can use magic. I also get the feeling that unlike the Chantry/Christianity parallel that the Creators/Forgotten Ones RL parallel is more of a mishmash of Western mythologies with the possibility of some other cultural mythologies thrown in there for good measure.

 

Thank you!  :lol: I agree, it would be nice to get more, but I think the forecast is promising a downpour of elven lore, given that DAI focused so much on it. (Or perhaps that's just wishful thinking.)

 

As I said, I'm pretty sure that the parallels are precise in a broader sense, i.e. as you say, the older religions don't correlate with one specific mythology necessarily, but rather the overall theme of certain mythologies. I mean, the classic mythology that almost all polytheistic mythopoeses are based on is Greek mythology, largely because it is the most intact mythology we have on hand, but I get the feeling that the ancient elven pantheon is much more reminiscent of Mesopotamian mythology (e.g. humans were created to serve the gods by planting fields, etc., i.e. slaves), but at any rate, I think it would be a mistake to assume any single mythology as "the inspiration" given that there is so much content that seems to be a smattering of several cultures.

 

Ahh, Mesopotamia. I loved studying that.


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Sorry for slightly getting away from the current discussion (although i'm very much interested in it as I have a real passion for the Arthurian myth...), but I really found this too funny...

 

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I'd say actually that Alistair would be Arthur (with Cousland potentially as a Gwenhyfar), Morrigan is Morgan la Fey and their unwillingly conceived child is Mordred, buuut then who is Lancelot? :D

 

 

That's what I was saying. :P (And admitting to be far-fetched. :(

In my case, the Lancelot would be my Cousland that married Anora in a different save-game? 


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In that latest David Gaider interview about Origins I think he did say they were going for a sort of Morgan le Fay thing with Morrigan, with the whole dark ritual thing. But it sounds like they didn't end up taking the idea that far, so who knows. They are clearly putting their own spin on things, even if there was some inspiration there.

 

I knew that the moment I saw her name.  :D I've seen Morgan le Fey-inspired characters many places (Moiraine!) who diverge from the "classical" legend (which is actually not all that historically accurate, I might add *disgruntled cough*) but I think that Morrigan is actually pretty close to it even if they decided not to go with the whole deal. Her behavior, her name, her being an apostate and the Dark Ritual are all grabbed straight from legend, so they did take the idea just far enough for the parallel to be obvious. I like that it's not exact, though, because that would be copying.  :lol:


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I knew that the moment I saw her name.  :D I've seen Morgan le Fey-inspired characters many places (Moiraine!) who diverge from the "classical" legend (which is actually not all that historically accurate, I might add *disgruntled cough*) but I think that Morrigan is actually pretty close to it even if they decided not to go with the whole deal. Her behavior, her name, her being an apostate and the Dark Ritual are all grabbed straight from legend, so they did take the idea just far enough for the parallel to be obvious. I like that it's not exact, though, because that would be copying.  :lol:

*slips Gwyvian a copy of Cornwell's The Winter King*


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That's what I was saying. :P (And admitting to be far-fetched. :(

In my case, the Lancelot would be my Cousland that married Anora in a different save-game? 

 

That would make sense. But then Cousland would need to be a bastard child with a half-sister! With a marriage of state that has passions elsewhere! That's the takeaway from Arthur and Gwenhyfar. :D I mean, if Cousland married Anora, he's the king, so he has to be Arthur, and all other male Wardens would be Lancelots...... if you like Anora at all, that is. Yeah, it makes more sense to only pair Arthur with Alistair/his ancestors, going into a loveless marriage (Anora) and then instead of Anora having Lancelot for a lover, you have a female non-Cousland Warden as a... Lancelette? :D

 

But Lancelot as Zevran... hahahahahahaha that's just so... wrong in a delightful way.  :lol: I'm going to be laughing about this all day.

 

Which reminds me, I really ought to work now.

 

*sneaks away*


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So many things are possible but I believe that it's more likely that we'll see Solas in the following DLC instead of Morrigan. Maybe we'll see both.  Solas has Mythal's power and Morrigan has her godhood. Which one of them is the next Flemeth? I would say that it's Morrigan because I believe that her story will continue and we'll be seing her in the future while Solas' story might be over in the DLC. Morrigan has also been in DA universe from the beginning.

 

I think Solas doesn't trust Morrigan but I don't know how Morrigan feels about Solas. Anyway I don't believe that there is a conflict between them. Morrigan also seems to want to restore old elven culture and I believe that Solas wouldn't disagree on that. They are not friends but I don't see that their goals are so different that they would start fighting against each other.

 

I honestly would not mind at all playing as Morrigan in some kind of Leliana's Song-esque DLC, that would be extremely fun to see her taking the protagonist role for once, much like Cass in Dawn of the Seeker and Alistair, Isabela and Varric in Until We Sleep.

 

I wouldn't want it to reveal too much about her and what secrets she knows, lest we lose all the mystery surrounding her, but seeing things from her POV would be rather enlightening... perhaps it could be set in the run up to the events at the Winter Palace, so we get more information about precisely what Celene wanted her for, how she reacted to the events of Masked Empire, or event tie it somehow to Last Court and her time in Serault?

 

As for Solas and Morrigan having some kind of conflict between them, I think that despite her reverance for Elven history, part of him feels that she's just another Shemlen who's interloping and trying to appropriate knowledge that was never meant for her. When we look at the long history in Thedas of humans stealing everything that wasn't nailed down (and sometimes even when it is) that belongs to the Elves, it's not that unfair of Solas to perhaps feel that way and believe that Morrigan seeks the knowledge for herself, rather than for the benefit of the People.


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Nothing special? It's quite obvious from banter alone that Solas has great respect for Cassandra and seems to quite like Varric. What I mean is that these two NPCs are likely established to be 'replacement friends/people he respects', in case Inquisitor failed to do impress Solas in any way :P

 

That's a really good point.  I hadn't thought about their friendships being used like that.  Reminds me of a fantastic alt take on In Hushed Whispers where the outcome was dependent on which party members you had with you.

 

Why wouldn't he? Cassandra is awesome :D

 

Damn straight.



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Yeah - that was my bad too.  Cory is special to me - mostly because Giton's beauteous fanfics that have explored his character really well.   Also, characters dealing with faith is such is a very big pull for me(also why Cassandra is such a big favorite of mine). 

 

Yeah, I agree, there are some tid-bits - but there was a whole bit in the canticle of silence about how he just wants to see Dumat. Since the whispers went silent.  Then they start up again but he wants to confirm it's real Then - at the end - he finds faith again before he "dies".  Then he gets the douche Inquisitor line "GET BACK TO THE FADE BRO"(or something like it).  So I found his handling a little...crappy...when you actually sit down and gather all that you can about his character and the Architect.  My poor magister babies.  

 

What I found sad was that - by the end - it becomes Solas' story and not Corypheus.  I understand Solas is important but if they had actually done more with Cory - what he deals with - it could have tied in very well when you face Solas later ESPECIALLY if you're a hardcore Dalish elf.  I can't tell you how many people missed the boat on the point of Cory and his overall tragedy - pretty much most of the fandom.  It shoudlnt' be THAT difficult to see this stuff. And it was. So something that could have been extra powerful became sort of shallow and I weep for what could have been. Maybe I'm overestimating the average videogame player though can grasp though...cries.

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No Solas art to share today...but I thought this art of Ghilan'nain was interesting..

http://ravenholm.dev...-nain-545131396



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Sorry for slightly getting away from the current discussion (although i'm very much interested in it as I have a real passion for the Arthurian myth...), but I really found this too funny...

 

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I'm curious: how many times have people here romanced Solas on their playthroughs? I've only been able to do it done it once. Are there REPEAT OFFENDERS? Wondering who holds the record, lol.



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I played the same character twice if that counts - and admittedly, replaying the Solas romance was a large factor in doing so.

 

Interestingly, the more I play, the less I choose diplomatic options. When I first loaded up DA:I, I was as nice as possible and completed all the little side quests. Now I just storm it being a dick. I tend to headcanon the slow personality change as stress :P


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