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[electricfish]

My Elder Scrolls senses are tingling!

 

I can safely say that the entire Elder Scrolls universe has some fantastic, and wacky lore in the setting. It's actually a shame 80% of it is given through in-game books (with stories, not just straight up codexes) because most players don't bother picking them up unless they're skill books. 

I've been going back and forth between ESO and DA lately as well! I have a werewolf Bosmer "dragon knight" and an Argonian sorcerer that I've finished the main story with, and I just started up an Argonian dragon knight (for the hilarity of plant people spitting fire), and an Imperial nightblade.

[drosophila]

 

I'm about half way through the Cullen romance and I find it pretty adorable XD He's so cute, like a puppy, and you have this need to protect him from the world. That first kiss scene too   squeee worthy and hilarious. With all that said though, I'm a Zevran > Alistair person and Solas > Cullen and not just because they're elves! I find something extremely attractive about the whole reluctantly falling in love and I have a dark side romance! Hmmmmm  Cullen (minus drug addiction) and Alistair types are probably the best kinds of guys you could fall in love with in real life, but goodness knows my fictional romantic inclinations don't need to make sense (Love-hate relationships are hawt and so unrealistic and I definitely rivalmanced Fenris just so I could get that one seen where he pushes Hawke against a wall *.*). Umm, yeah... I'll just be over there *hides in corner*

 

No need to hide!

 

IRL, I married something of a Cullen (minus the drugs), so I agree in it being the best kind of relationship to pursue there. But I loooove rivalmances, not just in DA, but in any type of fiction. I wish there was a Solas rivalmance, I've been working on a fanfic that sort of approximates one.

[Cee]

My Elder Scrolls senses are tingling!

 

I can safely say that the entire Elder Scrolls universe has some fantastic, and wacky lore in the setting. It's actually a shame 80% of it is given through in-game books (with stories, not just straight up codexes) because most players don't bother picking them up unless they're skill books. 

I've been going back and forth between ESO and DA lately as well! I have a werewolf Bosmer "dragon knight" and an Argonian sorcerer that I've finished the main story with, and I just started up an Argonian dragon knight (for the hilarity of plant people spitting fire), and an Imperial nightblade.

 

 

I love the Elder Scrolls stories. They're usually quite entertaining. Part of the reason I take a while to play through most RPGs is I tend to read everything (or close to it).

 

It's fun in that series as well as DA where there's a whole bunch of lore and history and context in documents. I've been replaying DA2 on and off recently and it's funny how many ways Inquisition was set up in codexes and other smaller ways. Obviously, certain overarching plots like the mage-templar conflict, and characters were much larger ties.

 

As for the Cullen romance, I've had my issues with Cullen, really disliking him initially (he was traumatized in Origins which I get, but no, killing all the mages isn't an option, Cullen), though in Inquisition I do find him sweet and charming. I thought I'd maybe go for Sera or Cullen but I just wait to see who draws me in and we all know how that ended up.

 

I am not really a fan of rivalmances, but I am no stranger to pain after Anders and Solas. Even though the whole Anders thing came complete with red flags from the start, there was still a friendmance amid the trouble. In my replay I keep thinking I should go for Merrill, finally, (I do love Merrill), but damn it if I've had Hawke flirting with Anders again.

 

I've also got a second DAI playthrough and another Solas romance so uh, my LIs often ruin me for other LIs.

[NeverlandHunter]

No need to hide!

 

IRL, I married something of a Cullen (minus the drugs), so I agree in it being the best kind of relationship to pursue there. But I loooove rivalmances, not just in DA, but in any type of fiction. I wish there was a Solas rivalmance, I've been working on a fanfic that sort of approximates one.

Rivalmances, you make no sense, but yes, I LOVE YOU UNCONDITIONALLY! Haha seriously, I'm not much of a shipper, but as soon as two characters have that beautiful hate filled chemistry and banter O_O I want them to admit they love each other. Which is ironic, because I think love-hate couples get distinctly less interesting after they become a couple (most TV/book couples do). Case in point Bones, if you watch it, they were much cuter when they endlessly bickered about everything and anything. 

 

Cullen, minus the drugs XD something about that makes me laugh.

 

Haha, the mood my Lavellan is in it definitely is a love-hate relationship. 

[Sifr]

Haha, the mood my Lavellan is in it definitely is a love-hate relationship. 

 

I think that Lavellan having a love-hate relationship with Solas would add an interesting dynamic to the table, as she's got a lot of reasons to really be upset with him, from "the break her heart to save her" move he pulled, from learning the truth about his responsibility in Corypheus getting the Orb, to being someone her people consider to be the devil incarnate.

 

Honestly, my Lavellan's reaction would probably be something along the lines of;

 

"Solas, I love you... but that's not going to stop me from kicking your arse!"

[NeverlandHunter]

I love the Elder Scrolls stories. They're usually quite entertaining. Part of the reason I take a while to play through most RPGs is I tend to read everything (or close to it).

 

It's fun in that series as well as DA where there's a whole bunch of lore and history and context in documents. I've been replaying DA2 on and off recently and it's funny how many ways Inquisition was set up in codexes and other smaller ways. Obviously, certain overarching plots like the mage-templar conflict, and characters were much larger ties.

 

As for the Cullen romance, I've had my issues with Cullen, really disliking him initially (he was traumatized in Origins which I get, but no, killing all the mages isn't an option, Cullen), though in Inquisition I do find him sweet and charming. I thought I'd maybe go for Sera or Cullen but I just wait to see who draws me in and we all know how that ended up.

 

I am not really a fan of rivalmances, but I am no stranger to pain after Anders and Solas. Even though the whole Anders thing came complete with red flags from the start, there was still a friendmance amid the trouble. In my replay I keep thinking I should go for Merrill, finally, (I do love Merrill), but damn it if I've had Hawke flirting with Anders again.

 

I've also got a second DAI playthrough and another Solas romance so uh, my LIs often ruin me for other LIs.

My first Origins play through was an Amell, so I've like Cullen for awhile (although less so in DA2. Seriously Cullen, you'd think you'd be more alert to crazy and dangerous after what happened in Ferelden, but thanks for standing against Meredith after shite hits the fan!). 

 

One of the reasons BioWare is so wonderful is that they give us so much variety with romances! Most people can find something they like no matter the other options! Do you purposely go for the tragic routes or does it find you? I admit that my first Origins play through ended with Alistair sacrificing himself for his Warden love  and it made me really sad and I debated reloading...but...the Final Battle was hard... and it was so poetic and tragic and romantic!! And then with Anders I might have heard a rumor that he would betray you so I might of chosen him as my first romance _{^{and then I might of wanted to scream profanities at him and send his merged soul to the Void.}} And with Solas a few little forum birds theorized he was connected to a god... so of course I had to choose him. Haha, I'm a masochist... or is it a sadist because I'm watching it happen to my characters XD

 

After my first play through I had no inclination to romance Anders again (although I did flirt just to mess with him and get Fenris/Anders rival banter). I had one more play through where I romanced him again... I was playing an evil Hawke, her name was Medea, but other than that FenrisFenrisFenrisFenrisVarricFenrisFenrisFenrisIsabelaFenrisFenrisFenrisFenrisVarricFenris for me! I prefer Merrill as a friend Carver is just too adorable with her. I've taken away enough from him X) poor little bro.

[NeverlandHunter]

I think that Lavellan having a love-hate relationship with Solas would add an interesting dynamic to the table, as she's got a lot of reasons to really be upset with him, from "the break her heart to save her" move he pulled, from learning the truth about his responsibility in Corypheus getting the Orb, to being someone her people consider to be the devil incarnate.

 

Honestly, my Lavellan's reaction would probably be something along the lines of;

 

"Solas, I love you... but that's not going to stop me from kicking your arse!"

Yeah... Solas is an arse. My Lavellan will use every angry option possible without actually ending it if there are such options. It's going to be interesting to see how they reveal everything about Solas to your Lavellan, or just any Inquisitor (if they do, which they better). 

First your Inquisitor has a right to be angry that Solas left without any goodbye (after stealing all your stuff)

<3Lavellan has the right to be angry about Solas breaking up with her and not explaining and then double for leaving without any explanation (ARSE!)

Then finding out Solas gave the foci to Corypheus, allowing Corypheus to reek murder and mayhem across Thedas with it. He kept this from you and inadvertently caused all your woes and the deaths of thousands.

AND THEN to top all that he's the fricking Dread Wolf! How much more can you lay on one person. How will our Lavellan's/Inquisitor's handle it!?

[Cee]

Well, I deliberately avoid spoilers before playing, so everything was entered into blindly. Though Anders does basically tell you upfront that this will hurt. Solas did not, so this was different. It's also so sad since they are both heartbroken.

 

I should've played a mage and let Carver live this time but I still haven't yet. I didn't intend to actually replay, I was just messing around but then I actually wanted to play, so my Hawke is a rogue again. I do love Bethany though, but I need to do at least one playthrough with Carver at some point.

[Sabriel.]

Well, I deliberately avoid spoilers before playing, so everything was entered into blindly. Though Anders does basically tell you upfront that this will hurt. Solas did not, so this was different. It's also so sad since they are both heartbroken.

 

I should've played a mage and let Carver live this time but I still haven't yet. I didn't intend to actually replay, I was just messing around but then I actually wanted to play, so my Hawke is a rogue again. I do love Bethany though, but I need to do at least one playthrough with Carver at some point.

He did though! From "I'm not certain this is the best idea." to "Don't go..." "It would be kinder in the long run." I just didn't....listen.....

 

And do it, btw. Carver is the best Hawke sibling _{including the eldest one}

[NeverlandHunter]

Well, I deliberately avoid spoilers before playing, so everything was entered into blindly. Though Anders does basically tell you upfront that this will hurt. Solas did not, so this was different. It's also so sad since they are both heartbroken.

 

I should've played a mage and let Carver live this time but I still haven't yet. I didn't intend to actually replay, I was just messing around but then I actually wanted to play, so my Hawke is a rogue again. I do love Bethany though, but I need to do at least one playthrough with Carver at some point.

 

He did though! From "I'm not certain this is the best idea." to "Don't go..." "It would be kinder in the long run." I just didn't....listen.....

 

And do it, btw. Carver is the best Hawke sibling _{including the eldest one}

Sabriel literally just stole everything I was going to say. Curses Sabriel! Get out of my head!!

[Caddius]

I was about to ask you what TW3 stood for, duh, The Witcher, eveeryoonee is talking about it. As someone who obviously jumped on board for a third installment of a franchise and enjoyed it, do you think I'd enjoy TW3 if I never played the previous two and know next to nothing about the universe (I know the Witcher doesn't hunt witches and I read about the first games trading card controversy, that is all)? I'm debating whether or not I should get it... meh, either way I'll probably wait some months after Fallout 4 comes out and the price is down. 

 

I've been doing the same thing in preparation of future DLC... then I found out there would be no more DLC for the last generation consoles. Now my hope has died, withered away and turned into despair. And yes, I am feeling very dramatic this evening *flourishes cape and steps off the stage*.

I would strongly recommend playing the first two because they're also excellent games and fairly cheap nowadays.

If not, then watch the Youtube videos of the storylines. While you would still find TW3 a highly enjoyable game without the prior context, unlike DA, it does follow a single protagonist and his friends. There's not as much carry-over as Mass Effect, but it's still handy to be able to go, "Hey, Vernon, how have you been?" instead of, "Hello, um, old...friend? Boyfriend?"

But yeah, you should still be able to enjoy it. It's just even better with the context of the other games.

[Sifr]

I'm a bit of a sucker for semi-tragic romances, it's been nice that we've had at least four romances with mages who've got a secret or a cause that comes into conflict with the protagonist in each game thus-far. I don't care if it's an overused trope, it makes for a great romance.

 

Between Morrigan falling for the mark, Merrill's dangerous obsession with Eluvian, Anders being torn between putting Hawke or mission first and Solas similarly deciding that he must break Lavellan's heart to focus on "saving" the People... those romances are great as they hit both highs and lows.

[NeverlandHunter]

I'm a bit of a sucker for semi-tragic romances, it's been nice that we've had at least four romances with mages who've got a secret or a cause that comes into conflict with the protagonist in each game thus-far. I don't care if it's an overused trope, it makes for a great romance.
 
Between Morrigan falling for the mark, Merrill's dangerous obsession with Eluvian, Anders being torn between putting Hawke or mission first and Solas similarly deciding that he must break Lavellan's heart to focus on "saving" the People... those romances are great as they hit both highs and lows.

Haha it does seem to be present in every game! Personally, I like the "I shouldn't feel the way I do for you" trope.
Zevran's uncertainty about his actual feelings and if the Warden will return them , Morrigan's denial of the existence of love (I don't even like romancing women, but I still enjoyed hers), Fenris falling in love with a mage *_* (my Mage Hawke!), and Solas realizing he shouldn't start a relationship but doing it anyway!

@Caddius thanks for the recommendation!

[Sifr]

I was about to ask you what TW3 stood for, duh, The Witcher, eveeryoonee is talking about it. As someone who obviously jumped on board for a third installment of a franchise and enjoyed it, do you think I'd enjoy TW3 if I never played the previous two and know next to nothing about the universe (I know the Witcher doesn't hunt witches and I read about the first games trading card controversy, that is all)? I'm debating whether or not I should get it... meh, either way I'll probably wait some months after Fallout 4 comes out and the price is down.

 

I'd probably start at the beginning, this is part of the reason I couldn't get into the Witcher 2, there was so much context and backstory I felt I was missing from the start of the game alone, I quickly gave up trying to play.

 

Well that and I couldn't read anything on the screen. Seriously people at XBox, give us a way to increase font size, some people don't have big screens to play on and it's hard to figure out what smudge you want me to press during the tutorials, especially if it's crucial to combat!

 

The other (rather petty) reason is cause I just can't get into Geralt's character. Maybe it's because I simply haven't spent enough time with him, I dunno, but I've found it really hard to relate or root for the guy. It's not the voice acting, which is fantastic... it's just something about the character that bugs me, I can't quite place what though?

 

[Cee]

He did though! From "I'm not certain this is the best idea." to "Don't go..." "It would be kinder in the long run." I just didn't....listen.....

 

And do it, btw. Carver is the best Hawke sibling _{including the eldest one}

 

Right, right, but it came off while playing more as hesitation (for some mysterious reason I thought we'd later find out - I mean, we do, but she doesn't) rather than an incredibly direct "I  WILL HURT YOU, PLEASE DON'T" after glowing-eyed possession-y attack bits.

[NightSymphony]

Just FYI.. GOG.com is always having sales on the Witcher games.

[NeverlandHunter]

I'd probably start at the beginning, this is part of the reason I couldn't get into the Witcher 2, there was so much context and backstory I felt I was missing from the start of the game alone, I quickly gave up trying to play.

 

Well that and I couldn't read anything on the screen. Seriously people at XBox, give us a way to increase font size, some people don't have big screens to play on and it's hard to figure out what smudge you want me to press during the tutorials, especially if it's crucial to combat!

 

The other (rather petty) reason is cause I just can't get into Geralt's character. Maybe it's because I simply haven't spent enough time with him, I dunno, but I've found it really hard to relate or root for the guy. It's not the voice acting, which is fantastic... it's just something about the character that bugs me, I can't quite place what though?

 

I hate when the size is too small because I always use and read subtitles. Geralt is one of the reasons I'm so iffy about going into the series. I like creating my own characters, giving them their own unique personalities and what not. Plus, I prefer playing as a female because I can immerse myself more into the role that way. The farther a protagonist is from me, the harder it is for me to take control of their character and feel for their struggles. I don't know much about Geralt, but I get generic "brooding over the past and people he couldn't save, misunderstood and detached hero, veteran of many battles and super powerful force to be reckoned with" vibe from him. Meanwhile the characters I play as are usually bookish and "just happened to be there types" who want to save everyone and their puppy from muahaha evil!

[Cee]

I'm a bit of a sucker for semi-tragic romances, it's been nice that we've had at least four romances with mages who've got a secret or a cause that comes into conflict with the protagonist in each game thus-far. I don't care if it's an overused trope, it makes for a great romance.

 

Between Morrigan falling for the mark, Merrill's dangerous obsession with Eluvian, Anders being torn between putting Hawke or mission first and Solas similarly deciding that he must break Lavellan's heart to focus on "saving" the People... those romances are great as they hit both highs and lows.

 

I would certainly not have minded a realistically not problem free but also happy romance again. I guess there's Dorian, Cullen, and Josephine for that this time around. I ruled out Josephine because she's adorable but she's a lot like me. To a weird degree. Cullen I still had dislike for from previous games, even though after having watched it, his romance is very cute and sweet and his character is better now. I played a lady, so obviously no Dorian yet.

 

I also like romances that give me a lot of feelings so as well as being painful, it enriched the experience. Anders did too, and I still really like that you could not only let him live but run off with him. I've said it before but that felt like one of the most rogue decisions I've made playing rogues.
 

[drosophila]

Right, right, but it came off while playing more as hesitation (for some mysterious reason I thought we'd later find out - I mean, we do, but she doesn't) rather than an incredibly direct "I  WILL HURT YOU, PLEASE DON'T" after glowing-eyed possession-y attack bits.

 

He hesitates for only a fraction of a second before kissing Lavellan both times. And he's certainly not shy to flirt. He did not give sufficient warning at all. After having learned his secret, I do believe he was trying to protect her, but I don't see how Lavellan would see any of it coming.  

[Sabriel.]

Right, right, but it came off while playing more as hesitation (for some mysterious reason I thought we'd later find out - I mean, we do, but she doesn't) rather than an incredibly direct "I  WILL HURT YOU, PLEASE DON'T" after glowing-eyed possession-y attack bits.

True, he's a bit more subtle about it compared to Anders' repeatedly hitting Hawke with a sign that says DON'T. (Blackwall does that too actually, I watched my sister play through his romance.) 

[NeverlandHunter]

Right, right, but it came off while playing more as hesitation (for some mysterious reason I thought we'd later find out - I mean, we do, but she doesn't) rather than an incredibly direct "I  WILL HURT YOU, PLEASE DON'T" after glowing-eyed possession-y attack bits.

Maybe he shouldn't have been so flirty if he wanted us to take him seriously -.-

Anders thoughts: Well I'm an blighted apostate abomination with a penance for terrorism and whining about Templars until I'm blue in the face... I'm probably not "bring home to mom" material.

*Hawke kills some Templars*

"You kills Templars real hawt"

*Hawke flirts back*

"No, we shouldn't do this, we can't be together. It would only bring us ruin! RUIN I SAY!"

Hawke thoughts: What's up with this guy? I was only flirting a little...

 

LATER

Anders thoughts: Hawke is really cute, but I'm no good for her(him). The responsible thing would be to stop encouraging her...

*Hawke flirts*

F*** it! I'll figure this out later!

"I'm just a man"

*smoochy sounds*

[Sifr]

I hate when the size is too small because I always use and read subtitles. Geralt is one of the reasons I'm so iffy about going into the series. I like creating my own characters, giving them their own unique personalities and what not. Plus, I prefer playing as a female because I can immerse myself more into the role that way. The farther a protagonist is from me, the harder it is for me to take control of their character and feel for their struggles. I don't know much about Geralt, but I get generic "brooding over the past and people he couldn't save, misunderstood and detached hero, veteran of many battles and super powerful force to be reckoned with" vibe from him. Meanwhile the characters I play as are usually bookish and "just happened to be there types" who want to save everyone and their puppy from muahaha evil!

 

Yeah I think that's probably what it is about Geralt that puts me off, the brooding warrior archetype just isn't my kind of character, at least not to play. I enjoy the character of Fenris, but I wouldn't want to be forced to play as him for an entire game. The dialogue options in a Fenris game would all be brooding, smoldering or seething...

 

True, he's a bit more subtle about it compared to Anders' repeatedly hitting Hawke with a sign that says DON'T. (Blackwall does that too actually, I watched my sister play through his romance.) 

 

Although Anders sends a lot of mixed signals, since he's clearly got a major crush on Hawke regardless of whether we romance him or not.

[Cee]

Maybe he shouldn't have been so flirty if he wanted us to take him seriously -.-

Anders thoughts: Well I'm an blighted apostate abomination with a penance for terrorism and whining about Templars until I'm blue in the face...

 

Well, when you put it that way....

 

 

Playing mage freedom sympathetic characters does play a part. Anders, especially after Awakening, just tugged at my caring and nurturing instincts as a player. And playing a character on his side as well as getting into the protective of my little mage sister part, father' the rest of the pain....well, it kind of made sense to go in that direction.

 

With Solas, the attraction at first was both smooth and dorky and charming that it was a whole other story. And again, playing highly sympathetic to mages and freedom (especially as someone Dalish, even with the mage policy and weirdness with spirits, freedom is important to them).

[NeverlandHunter]

True, he's a bit more subtle about it compared to Anders' repeatedly hitting Hawke with a sign that says DON'T. (Blackwall does that too actually, I watched my sister play through his romance.) 

It's almost obligatory for your romance to warn you off from them or from falling in love with them. How many of these love interests told you A) That they were no good for you  That you shouldn't fall in love with them C) That they would end up hurting you (emotionally) or D) A relationship wasn't a good idea?

Alistair 

Leliana

Zevran

Morrigan

Fenris

Isabela

Merrill

Anders

Cassandra

Blackwall

The Iron Bull

Sera

Dorian

Solas

 

... a lot of them.

 

Edit: Lol. I forgot Sebastian! And how dare my B point turn itself into a cool face!

[drosophila]

It's almost obligatory for your romance to warn you off from them or from falling in love with them. How many of these love interests told you A) That they were no good for you That you shouldn't fall in love with them C) That they would end up hurting you (emotionally) or D) A relationship wasn't a good idea?

Alistair 

Leliana

Zevran

Morrigan

Fenris

Isabela

Merrill

Anders

Cassandra

Blackwall

The Iron Bull

Sera

Dorian

Solas

 

... a lot of them.

 

Well, that's just it, since pretty much everyone says something to that effect, Solas' "warning" just comes across as business as usual. Even after the breakup I wasn't completely sure it's over, since Fenris came back eventually.