For me, it's folding laundry.
They always make me laugh too. It's not weird! Though, I do have to pause when my fiance walks in. He makes fun of me. Especially if it's a Solas part which it often is...somehow.
I sometimes stream videos to my TV via Chromecast. Fade kisses may have been among them recently. I should use that on the banters while I'm doing things.
Solas.....hate? 
I understand that it's possible to dislike, distrust, or have a bad experience with him, but I often find people who outright hate him didn't use him much (little banter), or failed to let his layers show. And, well, he can get pretty nasty if he dislikes you but he still shows depth.
Solas.....hate?
I understand that it's possible to dislike, distrust, or have a bad experience with him, but I often find people who outright hate him didn't use him much (little banter), or failed to let his layers show. And, well, he can get pretty nasty if he dislikes you but he still shows depth.
It's still a good thing that those who hate the character don't come here and derail the thread. Maker knows how many threads have been derailed by, say, incessant comparisons to Witcher 3 already... For some people it seems like it's almost an impossibility to like both games, it would appear 
As for hate... wellll, it's been rather obvious from the start that Solas is going to be polarizing - most likely the reason for it is because he's not easy to categorize, he's a know-it-all smartass, he openly criticizes things and doesn't openly worship the hero.
I wonder how many people either disliked him from the start or never really warmed up to the character and how many base this hate on post-epilogue scene?
(and, well, dumping Lavellan, in case she romanced him ;D)
Some people have tried their meager hand at trolling, but since we're all grown ups here we ignored them and life moved on.
But there was a point where we could have started a drinking game based on words like "voldemort" and "nosferatu." 
I can totally see why some people hate Solas. (Don't hit me, he's my third favorite character in the whole series!) The epilogue reveal alone could be enough, what with him apparently being responsible for the entire catastrophe we then have to go fix and lying through omission the whole time. Anders left a bad taste in a lot of players' mouths, so there's probably this kneejerk reaction and projection onto Solas for that even though their motivations are very different.
But he's also extremely opinionated, very cryptic about things he obviously knows too much about but doesn't share (even during my first playthrough I was like...want to explain exactly what it is you know about the Blight/Old Gods that has you freaking out so bad?), assumes he has all people pretty much figured out (I did appreciate getting to call him out when he goes "No, I'm not going to try to help the city elves, they wouldn't care/listen"). His balcony scene with other races really is the backhanded compliment of "wow, I thought your entire race was hopeless/savage/barbaric, but you're different and special!!" Uh...thanks? The Inquisitor never gets to call him out when he acts obviously suspicious, either. It's enough that not really bothering to get to know him further is probably understandable.
I've also noticed he gets a lot of hate among fans of Sera and IB, since he's so ~mean~ to them or whatever.
The Nosferatu thing still makes me laugh.
I can understand why people might legitimately dislike him, but I just think a certain percentage of those folks might misread him a bit.
I can understand why people might legitimately dislike him, but I just think a certain percentage of those folks might misread him a bit.
That may be a small and petty reason I'd like for Solas to not be the evil guy who did everything wrong in the end. It would be the perfect lesson in not taking everything at face value and deciding for a fact what's been going on before you have the whole picture in front of you.
But it is still a small reason. I'd just prefer a more layered story than "Solas will drop the Veil and release the gods and we'll have to kill him," which seems to be the most popular expectation.
I'm rival!Warden Carver with purple!fHawke. By the time I'm at the end of Act I his rivalry is already maxed. Yet somehow Fenris is at near max friendship...
My first playthrough I had to kill Fenris 
but I made up for it by rivalmancing than friendmancing him with my next two playthroughs! I made a pro mage Hawke to friend path Carver and friendmance Fenris... I spent every other mission on their wikis making sure I was taking them on missions that would gain their approval without sacrificing my Hawke's morals. I still only ended up getting Carver to about 80% percent friend though
For me, it's folding laundry.
I'm a responsible adult so I shall not admit how often my laundry gets washed, worn, and put back in the dirty hamper without ever being put away 
and I turn off my banter as soon as my sister walks in, she wouldn't let me live it down. I do the same thing when I'm watching anime... I really need to own up to my nerdy interests and stop caring what other people think. Oh, well, this is why I have internet friends!
I intend to have her go to the Circle but I just entertained the idea for the sake of doing something different, though I probably won't.
My friend did used to offer me her brother all the time.
Warden Bethany is interesting! In a cold and detached, makes an older sibling cry, sort of way. You should definitely try it, the Deep Roads scene is very emotional!
I have four sisters and two brothers, on sale for a limited are also three nephews and two nieces! Take your pick, though might I suggest for you "youngest brother of fourteen" or "youngest sister of ten". You'll never not have a headache again!
*walks into a thread on DA4*
*walks out again*
That is far too much Solas hate for me to deal with right now.
I haven't looked on any DA4 threads yet, is DA4 even in development right now? And how can anyone hate Solas *hugs him closely* I mean, I guess he could be technically blamed for the whole Breach and thousands of innocent lives lost thing...but so could Hawke technically.... And I guess you could consider him a bit of a racist if you're being harsh...and kind of a know-it-all before you realize why his does know-it-all, and if you're a huge Sera fan you probably don't like him as much... and if you don't like elves... or people who you trusted and end up betraying that trust...and, okay I'm done. I LOVE SOLAS NO MATTER WHAT!!
Solas.....hate?
I understand that it's possible to dislike, distrust, or have a bad experience with him, but I often find people who outright hate him didn't use him much (little banter), or failed to let his layers show. And, well, he can get pretty nasty if he dislikes you but he still shows depth.
When I love a character, I think they're even MORE fun to see pissed off and nasty towards you. Like Solas' 'I hate you' conversation, or Wrex if you betray him. The righteous anger is so awesome. Of course, I have to play as a character I dislike/disagree with in order for that to happen, so it's not like I can get offended lol.
I can understand someone hating Solas I guess though, there are characters I hate that everyone else in the world absolutely loves. And vice-versa.
Now, what I don't understand how someone can love Mordin, but hate Solas... they're like, sci-fi to fantasy counterparts XD
Now, what I don't understand how someone can love Mordin, but hate Solas... they're like, sci-fi to fantasy counterparts XD
Solas has yet to sing Gilbert and Sullivan for us. Clearly the issue here.
Warden Bethany is interesting! In a cold and detached, makes an older sibling cry, sort of way. You should definitely try it, the Deep Roads scene is very emotional!
I was thinking of doing it in a 'bring the pain' sort of way, but we'll see.
I have four sisters and two brothers, on sale for a limited are also three nephews and two nieces! Take your pick, though might I suggest for you "youngest brother of fourteen" or "youngest sister of ten". You'll never not have a headache again!
Come to think of it, these types of offers have been happening forever.
and if you're a huge Sera fan you probably don't like him as much... and if you don't like elves... or people who you trusted and end up betraying that trust...and, okay I'm done. I LOVE SOLAS NO MATTER WHAT!!
I love Sera, honestly. She is rather polarizing and I don't agree with all the things she does or says but as a character, as a person, she brings perspective and value to the Inquisition no one else does. Her issues with elven culture (again, not race, culture and religion) and her past affect her in understandable ways.
I'm a responsible adult so I shall not admit how often my laundry gets washed, worn, and put back in the dirty hamper without ever being put away
I have been an anime nerd for a very long time so I'm okay with someone walking in on me watching it as long as they don't start talking! I really need to concentrate on my anime, dangit! *glares at fiance*
Admittedly, my clean laundry piles have been getting really backed-up lately. Listening to Solas banter or music or watching something on netflix makes the chore enjoyable to me. :3
Solas has yet to sing Gilbert and Sullivan for us. Clearly the issue here.
I have been an anime nerd for a very long time so I'm okay with someone walking in on me watching it as long as they don't start talking! I really need to concentrate on my anime, dangit! *glares at fiance*
Admittedly, my clean laundry piles have been getting really backed-up lately. Listening to Solas banter or music or watching something on netflix makes the chore enjoyable to me. :3
Okay, just drank two cups of coffee (even though it's late) and I am ready for an in-depth analysis on Solas hate. Please excuse spelling and grammatical issues, I have the caffeine jitters!
I too find it difficult how anyone could say they "hate" Solas, even after taking a step back from my Solas obsession it's hard to discern what about Solas could cause something as passionate as "hate" for him in the fandom. As Elie Wiesel says “The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference....". It is one thing to say you don't care for Solas or that you dislike him, but to say you hate him means he, a fictional character, really got under your skin and caused an emotional connection, even if it was a negative one. For example, I wouldn't say I hate any of the various Dragon Age companions, but I extremely dislike Anders (although I end up sparing him more often than not, but that is for another discussion). I could go on an essay long rant about how much I dislike Anders and why he is a horrible person, but at the same time, many people would jump to his defense and proclaim their love for his character. This, in my eyes, is a sign of a well-written character, someone who stirs various strong emotional reactions from the audience.
As we all know Solas is well loved by a very vocal fanbase, the fact that he also generates hate means he is a layered and controversial character, which, in my opinion, are the best sorts of characters written. For many fans of Solas he represents a wise, yet misguided lost soul. Someone whose constant efforts to fix the world only end up in sorrow and social detachment for him. For us, his is a tragic tale, made all the more heart-wrenching by the possibility of a romance that, as we know, will only end up being another regret added to Solas's mounting list. We see the best in Solas, and in some cases our adoration for him leaves us blind to his many flaws. For the players who hate Solas his flaws are magnified and his more charitable traits either ignored or not recognized. I imagine they see a character who, quite literally, lives so far in the past he that he doesn't know how to accept the world as it is, and instead persists to have seen a better world. He tends to stereotype people by their species and heritage and is genuinely perplexed when they deviate from these categories. I admit his expectation for Sera, Varric, and even your Inquisitor to be something they're not is a source of frustration for me. Fans of Solas may excuse this behavior, but not all players will over look this form of unintentional racism. Even more grating for many players is Solas's endless discussion of the Fade and ancient times and how he is far more knowledgeable about it and it's inhabitants. Now, Solas is more knowledgeable about the Fade and ancient times, but it isn't until the end of the game that it is made clear to us just how far his knowledge of these matters exceeds our own.
The realization that Solas is the Dread Wolf, the elven god of "trickery" came as a shock to many players, the fact that he also inadvertently caused the Breach only added to the shock. Solas, or Fen'Harel, has innocent blood on his hands, more than we probably know, and for many, this in itself is unforgivable. However, I'd assume the greatest sin of Solas's is his deception. No one likes to be deceived or to have their trust betrayed, and Solas did just this. Every moment spent with Solas, and every word from him needs to be re-examined, because when trust is betrayed so horrendously it calls all motives into question. Was Solas just using your Inquisitor? Were they ever truly friends? Is Solas truly sorry for the pain that he caused, or was he just remorseful for the fact that his plan failed? So, why would someone hate Solas, but forgive Blackwall or Anders? Well, not only is Solas's case of false identity Blackwall's x10, he also seems to be willing to sacrifice close friends for his vision of the future. All these things, coupled with many shallower reasonings (such as his insistence that spirits are people, his pushing Sera to be something she is not, and the fact he takes your equipment and leaves the party without saying goodbye) is enough to cause people to have extreme negative feelings towards Solas.
At the end of the day, I find any opinion that can be supported with logic and reasoning to be a valid one, and that there are very valid reasons for hating Solas. Solas sparks controversy, yet is still adored and respected by many fans, the fact that he is hated by some people is not something fellow Solas fans should be upset about, instead we should celebrate the fact that he is such an interesting and significant character. We can be sure, whether positively or negatively, Solas will be a Dragon Age character that will be remembered far into the future for his role in the games and the turmoil he caused fans.
I was thinking of doing it in a 'bring the pain' sort of way, but we'll see.
Come to think of it, these types of offers have been happening forever.
I love Sera, honestly. She is rather polarizing and I don't agree with all the things she does or says but as a character, as a person, she brings perspective and value to the Inquisition no one else does. Her issues with elven culture (again, not race, culture and religion) and her past affect her in understandable ways.
Do it O_O peer pressure, feel the peer pressure.
People probably feel bad that you've never gotten to experience the having siblings life, and at the same time they probably want to experience the only child life. It's a win-win really 
I, as the player, enjoy Sera for the unique perspective she brings to the table, on the other hand my Lavellan doesn't get along with her, but my rogue Trevelyan and Sera are pals. 
I tend to see that many fans automatically hating a character their favorite character doesn't like or get along well with.
I have been an anime nerd for a very long time so I'm okay with someone walking in on me watching it as long as they don't start talking! I really need to concentrate on my anime, dangit! *glares at fiance*
Admittedly, my clean laundry piles have been getting really backed-up lately. Listening to Solas banter or music or watching something on netflix makes the chore enjoyable to me. :3
Lol. Nothing makes chores enjoyable for me X) but the banter and music definitely helps take away some of the tediousness. Haha, I started watching anime the summer between my junior and senior year of high school, after years of scorning it and it's watchers I might add (I was sort of self-centered at that point in my life). Still, other people's opinions still matter way too much to me 
I need to work on that.
I jam to the tavern songs while washing dishes, but it's when the music for Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts comes on that the house gets cleaned like no one business.
What's your favorite Tavern song? I really like Sera Was Never and I Am The One (which isn't as good as the elven version!), the one about Leliana is pretty too, I forget what it was called though :-/
As long as you're not suggesting that he observes her - without her knowing about it - during sleep, like some creepy, sparkly vampire.... Though, uh! - with the whole "Dreamers being able to observe and enter someone else's dreams" in the Fade I'm not entirely sure that this isn't happening
He makes his stalking a bit more obvious actually.
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Hey guys! It's been a while since I posted to the thread. I've just been having so many Solas feels.
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Hey guys! It's been a while since I posted to the thread. I've just been having so many Solas feels.
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Cheers my friend.
I was under the impression retaining the name Halamshiral served as a permanent reminder to the elves that they had been conquered, not to honour their heritage. I suppose my role-playing is influenced by the fact I spent my formative years as a marginalized visible minority. Showing up in the traditional clothing of my ancestors to a dance would not have made me more popular. I learned early on the value of fitting in.
You make a good point, it's possible that they might have not changed the name after taking the city as a not-so-subtle jab, since it's particularly cruel (and somewhat Orlesian) to take a name meaning "The end of the journey" in Elven and reveal that that end lies in a walled-off ghetto.
Course, could just be that everyone was used to calling it by that name that no-one felt the need to change it, sort of like how Gwaren still has it's original dwarven name from when it was one of their trading outposts.
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