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[Illyria]

Question is whether she'd pick for a lover someone who has only disdain for her people in the first place. I mean, we're not talking small things like difference in tastes or preferences, but something that is potentially too big of an issue to form a relationship (even friendship) to begin with.

 

Second - it's amusing that when Lavellan laments that out of all things they could preserve the Dalish picked something that makes them no better than Tevinter, it's Solas who tells her that she's a tad too harsh ;D

 

That's why I didn't romance Sera as a Lavellan.  Solas may not like the Dalish but he always respects her faith.  Sera does not.

 

Post game you can always headcanon Keeper Deshanna re-doing it

 

I'm getting the angst from the other direction his "you're perfect" is quickly proven to be a lie because one more look at Lavllan's face and he's like 'nope, I'm out'. 

 

The 'your perfect' line is truth.  Keeping the vallaslin leads to more angst, I feel.  When I first played that I kept them and then thought I did something wrong when he dumped me.  And then in the Cole/Solas banter afterwards Cole actually reads this in Lavellan.

[Sabriel.]

Post game you can always headcanon Keeper Deshanna re-doing it

lmao that would be such a painful conversation.

 

"Da'len I'm just going to point out the elephant in the room here. What happened to your face."
"Uh, there was this guy......"

[drosophila]

No mine don't either. It might have mattered more if she knew it was one of her gods telling her about vallaslin but someone, even her lover, telling her what they used to be used for wasn't enough to throw away something so central to dalish culture. Particularly when that person has made no secret of his disdain for her people.  

 

 

I really liked how you could have her react with anger to the whole thing, actually. Literally call bullshit. 

 

I mean I removed the vallaslin myself because I'm apparently going for the maximum amount of tragedy possible and I like the notion of my Lavellan immediately regretting that decision. But I love that if you want to, you can make Solas react like any panicked boyfriend: "Gah, no, forget I said anything!! You're perfect!!!!" 

 

 

Question is whether she'd pick for a lover someone who has only disdain for her people in the first place. I mean, we're not talking small things like difference in tastes or preferences, but something that is potentially too big of an issue to form a relationship (even friendship) to begin with.

 

Second - it's amusing that when Lavellan laments that out of all things they could preserve the Dalish picked something that makes them no better than Tevinter, it's Solas who tells her that she's a tad too harsh ;D

 

Well, seems I was too frivolous and maxed out my likes for the day, but thanks to everyone for sharing! 

 

When it comes to Solas' disdain for Dalish culture, I think he's the type of person that would have a stereotype in his head but always be open to the option of an individual *not* conforming to that stereotype. If Lavellan is similarly open-minded a relationship would be possible, but, still, I've imagined SO many arguments they could have. 

 

As for my Lavellan's rationale for keeping the vallaslin, I imagine her as someone who's very focused on the here and now, elven history being just a source of knowledge that could be used to help all races of today. Her vallaslin is an expression of who she is, so no way he's taking it!

 

Which God did your Lavellan pick for her vallaslin and why?

[Patchwork]

That's why I didn't romance Sera as a Lavellan.  Solas may not like the Dalish but he always respects her faith.  Sera does not.

 

 

The 'your perfect' line is truth.  Keeping the vallaslin leads to more angst, I feel.  When I first played that I kept them and then thought I did something wrong when he dumped me.  And then in the Cole/Solas banter afterwards Cole actually reads this in Lavellan.

 

We know he was telling the truth but to my Lavellan it becomes a lie because immediately after refusing to removing her vallaslin he breaks up with her. 

 

 

 

Which God did your Lavellan pick for her vallaslin and why?

 

Mythal, partly because I'm shallow and it's my favourite design after DAO's Ghilan'nain but IC because Mythal is the protector and that's the ideal she wanted to live up to as First then later in life as Keeper. 

[Illyria]

Which God did your Lavellan pick for her vallaslin and why?

 

Sylaise.  She's supposed to be the one that taught magic to the Dalish, and she represents the Way of Peace.  Since my Lavellan in a mage and avoids killing when possible it works.  Plus, the markings go over the eyes.  Any Dalish who gets that is hardcore.

[Sabriel.]

I picked June's, if I remember the chart right. Because I thought it was pretty and that's it, oops. It wasn't until they released the chart that I thought well, maybe she's an artist.

[midnight tea]

In different circumstances, where she's not surrounded by humans and quietly terrified, she wouldn't have had much to do with him once he shared his opinion about modern elves.  My girl is easy going but no matter how interesting the person once they spit out that kind of hate she's done with them. She'll fell for him despite her better judgement and well look at how it ended.

 

Not really sure what "hate" means though - if it means not necessarily subtle criticism then I hate my fellow countrymen myself, which is simply not the case.

And believe me - I heard my fair share of "you hate us!", "you're tremendously rude and unfair!" even for the mildest criticism, even politely correcting someone on some facts at times.

 

Therefore I'm just not that quick describe what they say as simple "hate" and I'd like to think neither my Lavellan, especially after she observes and learns how close-minded her own people can be. Like Dorian, she feels a deep need to find the common ground with everyone and she only feels that things like vallaslin serve to divide people.

 

 

That's why I didn't romance Sera as a Lavellan.  Solas may not like the Dalish but he always respects her faith.  Sera does not.

 

What's more, Solas actually tries to give the Dalish some credit - hence I just don't buy that he only has disdain for them.

 

 

As for my Lavellan's rationale for keeping the vallaslin, I imagine her as someone who's very focused on the here and now, elven history being just a source of knowledge that could be used to help all races of today. Her vallaslin is an expression of who she is, so no way he's taking it!

 

Which God did your Lavellan pick for her vallaslin and why?

 

... But the same could be told of Lavellan 'expressing herself' by removing the vallaslin.

 

I'm also not sure why history wouldn't be a source of knowledge that could be used to help all races of today for a Lavellan that removed that tatooo? Past is important for her in that regard, but not enough to define her. In any case, I'd like to think that's one of major reasons why she and Solas compliment one so well as a couple - he's someone who looks backwards, grounding her in knowledge of how things were and she's the one who's looking forward, giving him a fresh perspective (or maybe one he's lost at some point).

 

 

And my Lavellan's vallaslin was Mythal's (the smallest one) for very prosaic reasons - it fit the design of her face well (together with the haircut I picked it framed her eyes very well) Though I do like the fact that her partial, not really that elaborate vallaslin represents her skeptical nature towards gods,  worship and tradition.

[Vorathrad]

I actually headcanon that Solas disdain for the Dalish is an ongoing problem in their relationship, and things have already become a bit sour between them because of their frequent arguments by the time the breakup happens. Actually, I have developed a little story in my head where Lavellan thinks him taking her to Crestwood to have a moment for themselves is his way of trying to rekindle the relationship (yeah because there isn't enough drama on the romance as it is, you know)

 

At first I picked Sylaise's simple vallaslin because it fitted my Lavellan's face (the Solasmancer is not the one in my picture) and as Illyria said, I thought it very badass that part of it had to be done over the eyelid. When they released the chart and I learned it was Sylaise's, I found it very fitting, my Lavellan being very family-oriented.

[Sifr]

Which God did your Lavellan pick for her vallaslin and why?

 

I only found out after they released the chart that I'd picked the vallaslin for Ghilan'nain, which actually ended up being kinda thematically appropriate.

 

The Inquisitor is considered the "Herald of Andraste" and chosen by the Maker and there's an implication that post-game the Chant will be amended to include new verses to tell their story (there's a Canticle of Victoria added at least), Ghilan'nain was another mortal who was considered to have the favour of a god and ended up becoming part of the elven pantheon.

 

Ghilan'nain is also the patron they invoke while travelling, rather fitting for how the Dalish are nomadic and how the Anchor allows Lavellan to travel between the Fade and Thedas at will, making them essentially the ultimate traveller.

 

It's also amusing that someone wearing the vallaslin of a elven god that's symbol was the halla, should romance someone who's symbol was a wolf.

 

(I just hope that unlike Ghilan'nain, that we won't encounter any kind of hunter in our own particular story)

[midnight tea]

(I just hope that unlike Ghilan'nain, that we won't encounter any kind of hunter in our own particular story)

 

Lol, not sure about that, but I have to point that two tales of Ghilan'nan we have access to paint a very different picture of her (one as a pious Andruil worshiper who got turned to halla, another as a powerful, uh... genetic engineer? who ascended to godhood).

 

I wonder which one is closer to reality, be it figuratively or literally?

 

Also - why do I have a feeling that at some point Ghilan'nan will be important?

[MayriyaNoori]

I picked June for my Lavellan because they look good, lol oops

 

But funny enough that fits for the kind of character she is, being a pretty non devout elf. She asks to many questions about their religion to have any kind of solid faith in it, so she would pick the one that she thought would look best. And June would have been easy for her to make some sort of made up reason to tell the clan...being First and all. It's simply a matter of the fact that what has been carried down from June is very practical and makes life as a Dalish possible. Bows for hunting, weapons and armor for fighting, and all that stuff attributed to June. I guess a close second place would have been Andruil.....gotta hunt to eat.....but June's vallaslin looked better.

 

If my Lavellan were devout she would have chosen Dirthamen. Cause knowledge and secrets are smexy business!

[NightSymphony]

 

1. Who are your favorite Dragon Age, non-romancable companion characters?

Spoiler

Wynne

Dog

Nathaniel

Carver

Varric

 

2. Who is your favorite Dragon Age romancable character?

Spoiler

I'm only going to say the ones I've actually romanced.

 

Alistair

Zevran

Morrigan

Anders

Fenris

Solas

Cullen

 

3. Who is your favorite Dragon Age non-playable character?

Spoiler

Bann Teagan

Tamlen

Flemeth

Shianni

Soris

Dagna

4. Do you have a favorite Dragon Age character?

Spoiler

Well..it used to be Alistair, but then Solas happened.

[RoraM]

I started with Ghilan'nain before I knew which god my vallaslin represented, because it looked like my Lavellan was wearing a pretty diadem. My canon Lavellan bears the mark of Mythal because Abelas' declaration that she is not of his people seems so much more ironic.

[Sah291]

I only found out after they released the chart that I'd picked the vallaslin for Ghilan'nain, which actually ended up being kinda thematically appropriate.

 

The Inquisitor is considered the "Herald of Andraste" and chosen by the Maker and there's an implication that post-game the Chant will be amended to include new verses to tell their story (there's a Canticle of Victoria added at least), Ghilan'nain was another mortal who was considered to have the favour of a god and ended up becoming part of the elven pantheon.

 

Ghilan'nain is also the patron they invoke while travelling, rather fitting for how the Dalish are nomadic and how the Anchor allows Lavellan to travel between the Fade and Thedas at will, making them essentially the ultimate traveller.

 

It's also amusing that someone wearing the vallaslin of a elven god that's symbol was the halla, should romance someone who's symbol was a wolf.

 

(I just hope that unlike Ghilan'nain, that we won't encounter any kind of hunter in our own particular story)

 

I also picked Ghilan'nain. It was the default design for the base head I picked and I thought it framed her face well. When we got the chart, I thought I might try a couple of the others on her, but it just didn't look right and I'm attached to it now. But I agree, besides Halla, Ghilan'nain is supposed to be goddess of "navigation" and I thought that was fitting with the anchor allowing the quizzy to navigate the fade. Plus the "mortal who the gods shared their power with" fits with whole Herald of Andraste/Maker's chosen theme.

[Nightspirit]

I chose Dirthamen's vallaslin for my Lavellan, because it looked nice at the time. If I think about it now, it makes sense since she was sent to the conclave as a spy.

And about that.. I always found it a little strange that a spy would enter the room where Cory was sacrificing Justinia and start inquiring what's going on. If I were a spy, I'd get the hell out of there as soon as something shady started happening lest I'd be blamed for everything. But maybe that's just me and my survivalist "escape first, think later" mentality.

[Sifr]

With one of the stories that paints Andruil as being very much a stalker-with-a-crush towards Fen'Harel (and that's the kindest interpretation you could possibly ascribe to that tale), could imagine that romancing him with her vallaslin would be very strange from his perspective, especially if you chose to not let him remove them.

[drosophila]

 

 

... But the same could be told of Lavellan 'expressing herself' by removing the vallaslin.

 

Well, if she disliked her vallaslin for some reason or wanted a new beginning, yes she could express herself by removing it. My Lavellan is pretty fond of her Dorthamen vallaslin, it symbolizes her principles and the belief that knowledge conquers Fear and Deceit (reven story). There may be more to Dirthamen than that in the Lore, but that's what matters specifically to her. 

 

 

 

I'm also not sure why history wouldn't be a source of knowledge that could be used to help all races of today for a Lavellan that removed that tatooo? Past is important for her in that regard, but not enough to define her. In any case, I'd like to think that's one of major reasons why she and Solas compliment one so well as a couple - he's someone who looks backwards, grounding her in knowledge of how things were and she's the one who's looking forward, giving him a fresh perspective (or maybe one he's lost at some point).

 

 

What I meant to say is that she's not particularly concerned with what the vallaslin meant in ancient Elvhenan. Of course other Lavellans can remove their tattoos for a variety of reasons, and still consider the past important or not. 

[midnight tea]

With one of the stories that paints Andruil as being very much a stalker-with-a-crush towards Fen'Harel (and that's the kindest interpretation you could possibly ascribe to that tale), could imagine that romancing him with her vallaslin would be very strange from his perspective, especially if you chose to not let him remove them.

 

Well yeah, but we're not really sure how much of this story is true, be it metaphorically or else.

[RoraM]

My answers to NeverlandHunter's post:

1. Who are your favorite Dragon Age, non-romanceable companion characters?

Spoiler

Shale
Sigrun
Cole

2. Who is your favorite Dragon Age romanceable character?

Spoiler

Dorian
Cullen
Solas

3. Who is your favorite Dragon Age non-playable character?

Spoiler

Nelaros
Xenon the Antiquarian
Captain Rylen

4. Do you have a favorite Dragon Age character?

Spoiler

Solas and Cullen are my obsessions. Dorian is my best friend.

[Sifr]

Well yeah, but we're not really sure how much of this story is true, be it metaphorically or else.

 

Yeah, I suppose that Andruil being painted as being completely nuts in both that and other stories could easily be revisionist history, sort of like how Fen'Harel went from being a simply rebel and trickster to the ultimate big bad as far as the Dalish were concerned.

[NightSymphony]

My first Lavellan had Mythal's vallaslin.  I didn't know what they meant at the time and I picked it because it looks like a tree. :-P

 

My cannon, Atisha also has Mythal's vallaslin. It was actually picked for her by the Keeper. She is an orphan and the Keeper is like a mother to her, so the Keeper picked Mythal to protect her since Atisha likes to leave the clan and wonder around on her own.

 

Actually...it's just my favorite and I can't help but keep picking it when I make elves.

[NightSymphony]

Art time

 

Fen'Harel and Lavellan NSFW I suppose because you can kind of see her breasts

http://orig12.devian...021-d91pqfz.jpg

Source - http://vans021.devia...scent-547075871

 

Dread Wolf and Lavellan WIP

http://vans021.devia...d-WIP-547074465

 

Adorable Solas and a book

http://alishka.devia...-Book-547008665

 

Solas Sketch

http://intrepid-inkw...ketch-547038746

[electricfish]

I'm late to the party, but my Lavellan went full Elgar'nan as her choice (Mythal for the brother I headcanon her having). She's a bit hot-headed, stubborn and sometimes has trouble letting grudges go. Mythal might be the protector, but it seemed too much of a defensive role for her. Elgar'nan is vengeance, which means that as a hunter, she can actively do whatever is necessary to protect her family and give retribution if she/they are wronged. I don't think the Dalish know about the justice part of Mythal's portfolio, so my Lavellan probably thought that vengeance can also be a more...upscaled version of justice. 

It's...active vs passive protection. It also helps that the half-painted Vallaslin looks intimidating and could stop fights before they even begin, especially at night with the slightly glowy elf eyes. If Lavellan is scary and tough, then no one else has to be. 

 

An important part of her character is that she is complimentary with her Mythal-faced brother. He's the cool head, she's the energetic one. Her Vallaslin choice was also influenced by the symbolic balance that they share(d). She can be the hand that slaps dangers to herself and the clan aside, but her brother is the one that can convince her to reach out again in forgiveness if she goes too far.

[Niamaduir]

 

Which God did your Lavellan pick for her vallaslin and why?

 

My canon Lavallen has Mythal's. Partially because I like the branches/tree motif, but also because she was being groomed to be the Keeper's Frist from an early age and she knew that being Keeper would involve making hard decisions to ensure the safety of the clan. 

 

My other Lavallen has Ghilan'nain's. She has a Mowgli/Romulus&Remus like origin, having been found living with a herd of wild Halla. She was about seven when Clan Lavellan found her on the edge of the Green Dales, they never found any sign of her clan. She takes a rather dim view of the Creators because of this (she still has vague and terrifying nightmares about whatever did happen to her original clan) and while she would not argue their existence, she would argue their divinity. If she had the option to refuse the vallaslin she probably would have, but choose Ghilan'nain's so as not to upset the clan many of whom already whisper about her being some sort of agent or gift from the goddess.

[NeverlandHunter]

 

1. Who are your favorite Dragon Age, non-romancable companion characters?

Spoiler

Wynne

Dog

Nathaniel

Carver

Varric

 

2. Who is your favorite Dragon Age romancable character?

Spoiler

I'm only going to say the ones I've actually romanced.

 

Alistair

Zevran

Morrigan

Anders

Fenris

Solas 

Cullen

 

3. Who is your favorite Dragon Age non-playable character?

Spoiler

Bann Teagan

Tamlen

Flemeth

Shianni

Soris

Dagna

4. Do you have a favorite Dragon Age character?

Spoiler

Well..it used to be Alistair, but then Solas happened. 

 

My answers to NeverlandHunter's post:

1. Who are your favorite Dragon Age, non-romanceable companion characters?

Spoiler

Shale
Sigrun
Cole

2. Who is your favorite Dragon Age romanceable character?

Spoiler

Dorian
Cullen
Solas

3. Who is your favorite Dragon Age non-playable character?

Spoiler

Nelaros
Xenon the Antiquarian
Captain Rylen

4. Do you have a favorite Dragon Age character?

Spoiler

Solas and Cullen are my obsessions. Dorian is my best friend.

 

I'm out of likes, but thanks for replying!

 

My Lavellan chose Dirthamen's vallaslin! It's funny because at the time I had no idea which vallaslin belonged to who, but I headcanoned that I had his, and then I found I did!

 

I want to comment about vallaslin removal vs vallaslin keeping!!!! I just need some time to do stuff and collect my thoughts!