Solas is very reflective, regretful, feels responsible for many things, has been betrayed, and seems to have suffered loss, and it's possible this could've simply reflected his more melancholic side. Especially if he had to mercy kill an old spirit friend and lose one of his few deep connections that accepted him as he is.
That... still doesn't explain what Cole means^^;
It's a guess as to what Cole means. 
That... still doesn't explain what Cole means^^;
I'm not sure the rest of us understand what you're getting at. It seems pretty straightforward to me. The Spirit of Wisdom didn't want Solas to mourn her passing (she was restored to herself and was "free") but she knew he would anyway, because shouldering regret and carrying necessary deaths is pretty much His Thing.
@Midnight Tea - Regarding Waking up - I don't think it was like a mother "Oh Solas sweetie, time to get up for school!" I think - like the ToM - she may have activated wards to wake him. And left. Reason unknown. That's just my thought.
What cole means - Cole is speaking about Wisdom - Wisdom is a good friend and wants him to be happy. Like any good friend would. She wanted him to be happy but knew he beat himself up to much for that ever to be possible.
He mentions the hut, but we don't really know in what context. He may have been lured by power or dreams or else - who knows? All I know is that when we enter the last chamber in ToM and Solas sees the Well, he whispers "So Mythal endures..." with what seems to be either amazement or relief in his voice.
Then, after ToM (and no matter who drank from the Well) we get Sera/Solas banter during which she notes that Solas is "all fluttery" ever since the events in the Temple. Obviously they've found something there he did NOT expect.
Haven't had that banter, but interesting.
In any case, I don't think he was drawn by power. He had his power source and as long as it remained intact, it seems like he would've been okay. There's desperation after it is broken, which is why it always seems like a regretful Plan B he has in mind, at a distance, and hopes deep down to not have to use.
He may have been uncertain but it doesn't mean he didn't expect Mythal to be around somewhere. Can't say for certain in any case, given there's so much we still don't know or how it connects.
Uh... before I sprint to the bug forum, are any other PC/Origin people having a problem with DAI being greyed out and unplayable in their games list?
Bonus: attempting to play directly results in getting popped into the game as my warrior, who is now... level one. No other characters found.
*takes deep, steadying breaths, tries not to panic*
Uh... before I sprint to the bug forum, are any other PC people having a problem with DAI being greyed out / unplayable in their games list?
Bonus: attempting to play directly results in getting popped into the game as my warrior, who is now... level one. No other characters found.
*takes deep, steadying breaths, tries not to panic*
I had to repair my game today for some reason. Also - go to documents and try and check if all your saves are there.
Haven't had that banter, but interesting.
In any case, I don't think he was drawn by power. He had his power source and as long as it remained intact, it seems like he would've been okay. There's desperation after it is broken, which is why it always seems like a regretful Plan B he has in mind, at a distance, and hopes deep down to not have to use.
He may have been uncertain but it doesn't mean he didn't expect Mythal to be around somewhere. Can't say for certain in any case, given there's so much we still don't know or how it connects.
Through "drawn by power" I didn't mean it in a way that he was searching for a power source to feed on or use 
Merely that he might have been drawn to a place either something interesting happened or he might have felt something only creatures of his kind can sense - which is how I assume he sensed where the Orb might be. By his own admission, he WAS nearby when the Conclave was about to start, wasn't he?
Also - I'm not sure Solas needed the Orb as power source for himself, merely to do something. In fact, I always assume that more than power, he sought knowledge locked in the Orb (might be that both power and knowledge are related, but still...). Dorian does mention in banter that such orbs - which are likely similar if not identical artifacts - existed in ancient Tevinter and they were called 'somnaborium' - vessels of dreams.
I'm not sure the rest of us understand what you're getting at. It seems pretty straightforward to me. The Spirit of Wisdom didn't want Solas to mourn her passing (she was restored to herself and was "free") but she knew he would anyway, because shouldering regret and carrying necessary deaths is pretty much His Thing.
I know it's his thing, and I know that Cole is all cryptic and naive/child-like, which impacts the way he forms sentence, but it still doesn't really fit the context of that particular banter IMO.
It often happens to me. In fact my Origin is synchronising my last saves on the cloud because it didn't do it the last time I played - for whatever reason- and the game won't start until the synchronisation is finished. But it appears grey in my library. You just have to wait.Uh... before I sprint to the bug forum, are any other PC/Origin people having a problem with DAI being greyed out and unplayable in their games list?
Bonus: attempting to play directly results in getting popped into the game as my warrior, who is now... level one. No other characters found.
*takes deep, steadying breaths, tries not to panic*
Yeah, I've always wondered who Mythal's appointment was with. Solas is a possibility for sure, though that just leads to the larger question of why- both in terms of a purpose for the meeting and the fact that it seems unnecessarily risky, given that (assumedly?) the two could contact each other at will via the Fade. It also begs the question of who Mythal was trying to out-maneuver by using Hawke as transportation. Too early for Corypheus, no other known active Pantheon, Morrigan wasn't a serious threat...
Who would Mythal fear enough to bother going to the trouble?
It is believed that Flemeth takes a part of herself and puts it into the amulet to ensure that she survives just in case the HOF kills her to get the grimoire for Morrigan (this is what she meant by "appointment to keep").
Later on at Sundermount when the ritual is performed to release Flemeth, she states that the amulet was "A bit of security, should the inevitable occur. And if I know my Morrigan, it already has". She is referring to being slain during the "appointment".
I took it to point toward whatever he plans to do. That the process and possibly the end result would leave him unhappy. I'm sure he sought her counsel on it and I'm sure she tried to convince him to let go of it and simply live the rest of his life in the world the way it is now.I know it's his thing, and I know that Cole is all cryptic and naive/child-like, which impacts the way he forms sentence, but it still doesn't really fit the context of that particular banter IMO.
I took it to point toward whatever he plans to do. That the process and possibly the end result would leave him unhappy. I'm sure he sought her counsel on it and I'm sure she tried to convince him to let go of it and simply live the rest of his life in the world the way it is now.
And possibly that he wouldn't be truly happy either way. Either he'll feel guilty for abandoning it or a failure if it doesn't turn out the way he wants.
Sadly I think Solas is doomed to be unhappy - in a sense, that even if he'd to get a "happy ending" it would be marred by either some sort of personal sacrifice/guilt, things not going the way he planned, or not being able to enjoy the future/world he created due to all the hardships he want through as well as heavy cost that went into creating it.
That is, unless he learns to let go - because I get a feeling that's one of his major problems.
It definitely is. He's VERY focused on the past. He spends all that time in uthenera, wakes and spends so much time in The Fade, a place of impressions, memories, the past. He focuses a lot on the past, mistakes, turns his own regrets over in his head a lot. Thanks to Cole and other dialogues with Solas, we get this. He talks a lot about things that 'still remain' or what was lost.
His discussions with Varric illustrate this very well. Varric is a pick up the pieces, make a life, do the best you can sort of person....a degree of optimism. Solas asks him about the fall of the dwarves and what was lost and the story of the man left alone on the island after his wife died in childbirth that Solas tells is very revealing. Solas' POV is more pessimistic, counting losses. Varric talks about the guy making a life, even if he was alone.
Solas cannot let go. His thoughts are frequently in the past, sometimes they're a certain melancholy. His banter with Cole about It's a Wonderful Life - Cole's take is the traditional take, the angel showing George that he had much to live for and prevented his suicide. Solas' take was that it held him as he jumped and died and comforted him'.
One thing you, especially as a romanced Lavellan, give him is a little bit of hope. Other companions also help teach him ways to expand his perspective and assumptions too.
Sadly I think Solas is doomed to be unhappy - in a sense, that even if he'd to get a "happy ending" it would be marred by either some sort of personal sacrifice/guilt, things not going the way he planned, or not being able to enjoy the future/world he created due to all the hardships he want through as well as heavy cost that went into creating it.
That is, unless he learns to let go - because I get a feeling that's one of his major problems.
It definitely is. He's VERY focused on the past. He spends all that time in uthenera, wakes and spends so much time in The Fade, a place of impressions, memories, the past. He focuses a lot on the past, mistakes, turns his own regrets over in his head a lot. Thanks to Cole and other dialogues with Solas, we get this. He talks a lot about things that 'still remain' or what was lost.
His discussions with Varric illustrate this very well. Varric is a pick up the pieces, make a life, do the best you can sort of person....a degree of optimism. Solas asks him about the fall of the dwarves and what was lost and the story of the man left alone on the island after his wife died in childbirth that Solas tells is very revealing. Solas' POV is more pessimistic, counting losses. Varric talks about the guy making a life, even if he was alone.
Solas cannot let go. His thoughts are frequently in the past, sometimes they're a certain melancholy. His banter with Cole about It's a Wonderful Life - Cole's take is the traditional take, the angel showing George that he had much to live for and prevented his suicide. Solas' take was that it held him as he jumped and died and comforted him'.
One thing you, especially as a romanced Lavellan, give him is a little bit of hope. Other companions also help teach him ways to expand his perspective and assumptions too.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was a trait he shares with other ancient elves - that is, that they were so focused on past and old glory and set ways, that eventually the events that spelled their doom were result of them desperately trying to preserve it.
Solas strikes me as someone who at some point was able to think about change and moving things forward - or at least about finding a different solution and actively fighting for it.
Eventually however, he burned himself too much - either due to betrayal or things blowing in his face (possibly both) - and that fear of change and letting go crept up on him and ate away a lot of his hope or willingness to fight for change. This is likely why he approves more of the option to conserve and restore to things how they were (even if not exactly), rather than seeking to help the world progress.
And I agree that Inquisitor (be it befriended or romanced) and companions help him to open up to new perspective or hope again... Hopefully to a point that all this will have very interesting effects on the story
I agree. Which is why I expect bittersweet at the very least and that's only for a romance if they feel sorry for us enough. xD
I've been wondering if any of the companion's fears were overcome during the course of the game. If so that would give me more hope of his being overcome as well.
Then again some fears are never resolved but theirs at least seemed to revolve around their character arcs.
I think their arcs and fears have been written in a way to make our PC a potential catalyst for change, or at least a way to begin overcoming their issues. That is not to say that it's a one-way street and they have no positive effect on IQ as well - though that depends a lot of how people play their characters. In any case, hopefully some things will be resolved or their arc deepened in upcoming DLCs, alongside some story resolution for Solas
I'd like to see Bull being more comfy with being Tal-Vashoth (or else?) or Blackwall gaining faith in himself or Sera growing up a bit. And I'd REALLY like to see some sort of arc for Vivienne, as she doesn't really have one (that is, unless her accepting Inquisitor as friend, even if they've had disagreements counts as one)... or do something about her story and involvement that will leave a lasting impression on players.
Hey guys, are there any news on story based DLC? I noticed the new Qun armor/mount/throne pack and I'm starting to get a bit grumpy about the whole thing. Where's my Wolf Hunt!
Hope you lot are doing well. ^^ I recently lost a 95 hour still-in-progress save (my own fault, forgot to backup my files), so I'm starting again. Again... This is still to be my canon save, but I'm getting so fed up with archer rogue. Oh well, I get to experience the hellspiral romance some more. >
This time around I might shake it up and mess about with the companions classes; spec Solas entirely in damage, give Cole a bow, etc. Anyone tried that yet?
Hey guys, are there any news on story based DLC? I noticed the new Qun armor/mount/throne pack and I'm starting to get a bit grumpy about the whole thing. Where's my Wolf Hunt!
Hope you lot are doing well. ^^ I recently lost a 95 hour still-in-progress save (my own fault, forgot to backup my files), so I'm starting again. Again... This is still to be my canon save, but I'm getting so fed up with archer rogue. Oh well, I get to experience the hellspiral romance some more. >
They've been dropping very heavy-handed hints that a new story DLC focused on the dwarves, deep roads, and darkspawn will be released soon. Everyday for the last week there's been a new tweet focused on that.
EDIT: Frankly All I want is this
EDIT: Frankly All I want is this
I AM SO READY FOR ARCHITECT LOVIN'.
But mostly, after the somewhat lore-light JoH, I'm expecting a whole pile of crazy when we head into the Deep Roads. I mean... it's the Deep Roads.
Titans. Magisters. Lost thaigs. Shattered foci. The Stone. Kal-Sharok. The Fire at the Heart of the World.
*makes desperate grabby hands at screen, prepares to hold breath until Tuesday*
As much as I'm nearly walking on walls out of sheer impatience I don't think we'd be seeing this DLC before August, or maybe even early August :[
I was watching a gameplay video the other day of when Morrigan takes Quiz to the "crossroads". I didn't think anything of it when I played the game but, there is something that Morrigan says that kind of gave me a chill; "One cannot remain in between forever". Granted, she is referring to staying in the crossroads for too long but.... it just reminded me of how Fen'Harel can walk between both the Creators and the Forgotten Ones. I wonder if it's a hidden double meaning. If so, this does not bode well for him.
I'm still trying to remain optimistic. And who knows, perhaps Mythal might sacrifice her own essence to save Fen' Harel along with Morrigans help (if she obtains Flemeth's/OGB/Mythal's power left in the eluvian). I'd like to think that there is still some glimmer of hope left.
I was watching a gameplay video the other day of when Morrigan takes Quiz to the "crossroads". I didn't think anything of it when I played the game but, there is something that Morrigan says that kind of gave me a chill; "One cannot remain in between forever". Granted, she is referring to staying in the crossroads for too long but.... it just reminded me of how Fen'Harel can walk between both the Creators and the Forgotten Ones. I wonder if it's a hidden double meaning. If so, this does not bode well for him.
I actually do believe that it has a double-meaning. I do however think it may have something to do with some sort of last ancient elf enclave existing in such "realm in between" and that this realm - just like Crossroads - might be deteriorating, to a point that not much time's left before it eventually collapses.
Art post time.
Sweet Solavellan artwork.
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Side benefits. (Solas giving a warrior Lavellan a back massage. Slightly NSFW maybe? I dunno)
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if you are the wolf, who is your Red Riding Hood?
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Bull doesn't want to go to the Fade. ^__^;
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Sad egg. 
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Gorgeous Solas portrait.
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Not a morning person. (Slightly NSFW because you get a little peek at his... well.) 
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Morning stretches. 
(Slightly NSFW)
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Cute little gif of Solas shaking that booty. 
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Solas portrait sketch.
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Fen'Harel done for the color palette meme.
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Snow's melting around the red lyrium.
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Solas and Sera playing online games.
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They've been dropping very heavy-handed hints that a new story DLC focused on the dwarves, deep roads, and darkspawn will be released soon. Everyday for the last week there's been a new tweet focused on that.
EDIT: Frankly All I want is this
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