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[Joe25]

Interesting, I don't remember coming across a blighted toad

Maybe because that Elven god has not been touched by the blight? I'm over thinking this aren't I?

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Blackout62]

Rabbit and several others have been preaching The Witcher 3 with a zealous-like fervor. I'm awaiting the arrival of my french Fallout 4 pip-boy edition with baited breath and heaving bosom. And Fire Emblem: IF. Nohr all the way! Or the secret middle path.
 

 

French Fallout 4! I can imagine it now: A mustachioed man in a black and white striped shirt and beret stands at a vista on the scarred wasteland of the Parisian countryside. He puts a cigarette in his mouth as a mushroom cloud rises in the reflection of his eyes. The superheat of nuclear explosion lights the end of his cigarette but he is unperturbed as the Edith Piaf plays ominously.

 

"Guerre. Ne change pas guerre," says Jean Reno, France's answer to Ron Perlman.

 

What were talking about? Solas?

 

What if the Qunari are invading through the Deep Roads? Maybe Bioware's giving us one DLC with both ideas like how Jaws of Hakkon was Avvar and Elf stuff.

[Cee]

Thanks for all the welcomes! It really seems like a nice place to hang out .

 

Does Solas say "threatens the heart of human faith" for every inquisitor, or only elves? For I interpreted as, since the orb is elven and the inquisitor is elven, people could feel 'threatened' if they found out.

 

I am also wondering how a deep road DLC could possible be related to any plans that Solas has. Maybe something about the archdemons? I really need to do some more background reading on this stuff

 

It is different for humans and probably other races, but haven't seen those yet.

 

https://youtu.be/SXI1iWoSwcc?t=249

 

Human version.

 

It is definitely worth playing through/listening to, especially how Solas adapts to each.

[Cee]

I'm guessing wolf shapeshifter.  Each of the gods were and each had a prefered form.  Mythal=dragon, Fen'Harel=Wolf, Falon'Din=Owl, Dirthamen=Bear, Andruil=Hawk, Ghilan'nain = halla, Sylaise = ?, and June = toad ?

 

Also, Mythal and Elgar'nan were the same being.  Bioware set up the justice/vengance thing too much in DA2 for them not to be.

 

Especially given some of the lore of how Mythal came to be and as you say, justice/vengeance. These codexes are also intriguing:

 

 

"His crime is high treason. He took on a form reserved for the gods and their chosen, and dared to fly in the shape of the divine. The sinner belongs to Dirthamen; he claims he took wings at the urging of Ghilan'nain, and begs protection from Mythal. She does not show him favor, and will let Elgar'nan judge him."

For one moment there is an image of a shifting, shadowy mass with blazing eyes, whose form may be one or many. Then it fades.

 

 

"She shook the radiance of the stars, divided them into grains of light, then stored them in a shaft of gold. Andruil, blood and force, save us from the time this weapon is thrown. Your people pray to You. Spare us the moment we become Your sacrifice."

There is a brief image of an elaborate golden spear, glowing with unbearable heat. Then it fades.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Illyria]

I think I just shed a legitimate tear. BRB. I need to go weep openly in the shower over the French Fallout that will never be. The ruins of Versailles infested by ghouls! The French Brotherhood in a fortress they've come to call New Bastille! Uncovering the destruction of the Louvre and seeing the best of mankind personified in its art scattered, ruined, and charred.

P.S. Solas. No idea why the Qunari would be in the deep roads unless they finally decided to actually DO something about them unlike the rest of Thedas (minus the Dwarves). Hell, they could have done the smart thing, gone underground and created a steady, planned attack to find and eliminate Brood Mothers one by one.

 

Great.  Just what Thedas needs.  A entire army of ghoulified Qunari.

[Illyria]

It is also funny that each of these animal turn up as blighted animals in the Wolrd of Thedas.

 

Volume one or two?  I only skimmed volume 2 so I might've missed that.

[Sabriel.]

It is different for humans and probably other races, but haven't seen those yet.

 

https://youtu.be/SXI1iWoSwcc?t=249

 

Human version.

 

It is definitely worth playing through/listening to, especially how Solas adapts to each.

I love this scene with an elf Inquisitor because it shows his, like....subtly manipulative side?

 

Everyone knows Solas only reveals his cards when he's really forced to--thus only saying he knows about the orb "in theory" once the Inquisitor has seen it too--and that getting the orb back is his real goal from the beginning. So he takes a Lavellan aside and his line is something like "the orb Corypheus carried? The power he wields--it is ours." Ours. This from the guy who outright states every other time the topic comes up that he doesn't feel much in common with modern elves, uses "them/they" when referring to them, etc. etc. But he's talking about the ancient elves here: for once he's sort of elevating the mortal elf Inquisitor up to his "level," in a sense. Evoking solidarity to coax Lavellan over to his way of thinking. "Maybe we should figure this thing out so that the humans don't blame us." 

 

And this is another example of his true identity adding a lot more meaning to the things he says on a second playthrough. Trickster god indeed.

[S.W.]

I reinstalled TS3 recently but haven't played it (never liked it as much as TS2 and I don't have all the expansion packs so it just feels like stuff is missing)  TS2 is currently eating my time.  A few pages back there was even a brief discussion on Solvellan sims and TS2 modding. 

 

ooh, where?! *flicks back quickly* I'm nowhere near as talented or technologically minded to mod but I'd kill for some elfy Solavellan sims. Or just DA stuff in general - imagine trying to make a copy of Skyhold.

 

I had the exact same feeling about TS3 - never appealed to me as much for some reason. Possibly because it felt that, in comparison to TS2 where I had every single possible expansion, TS3 felt empty - I mean, no hot tub in the base game? Psssh.

[Sabriel.]

P.S. Solas. No idea why the Qunari would be in the deep roads unless they finally decided to actually DO something about them unlike the rest of Thedas (minus the Dwarves). Hell, they could have done the smart thing, gone underground and created a steady, planned attack to find and eliminate Brood Mothers one by one.

Iron Bull does say in one of his banters that the Qunari brass are Not Pleased about the existence of ogres! Sten was sent down to Ferelden in Origins because the old Arishok told him to go figure out what the Blight is....

 

So it isn't a total stretch... 

[Joe25]

Volume one or two?  I only skimmed volume 2 so I might've missed that.

it is in one in the very back.

[Oswin]

Worry not, your vacation was perfectly timed! I hope you purchased several fancy drinks with those cute umbrellas, picked up surfing, and got sloshed with a bro named Chad.

 

Rabbit and several others have been preaching The Witcher 3 with a zealous-like fervor. I'm awaiting the arrival of my french Fallout 4 pip-boy edition with baited breath and heaving bosom. And Fire Emblem: IF. Nohr all the way! Or the secret middle path. 

 

I do sincerely wish Bioware was more transparent about their DLC plans - it's led to a palpable drop off in overall fandom excitement and interest. While I haven't played the Witcher 3, CD Projekt's transparency about the number, date, and size of their DLCs is excellent. It makes the DLCs feel planned, purposeful, and genuine as compared to these odd night-before content-dumps.

 

 

That pip-boy edition is niiiiiice.

I'm still waiting for Fallout shelter to come on to my poor old android. I think I heard it was coming next month, finally. I haven't touched a mobile game in years. Should be fun.

 

The DLC item packs for DAI have been weird. They just suddenly..happen. As if they are just pushing them out because they have to rather than because it's something they are happy with :/ 

I keep forgetting JoH happened as well. I keep thinking there has been no story DLC content and then I go 'ah wait.' While I didn't dislike JoH, I also didn't like it enough to run through it twice yet. So my Solasmancing Quizzy just hasn't done it. I think she's somewhere at the start. 

I think it's because I'm all about the companion content and JoH didn't really bring any. That's where DA2 got something right  moan as I do about it's errors, I can't deny that I replayed the heck outta Legacy and MoA. There was so much companion banter and even companion specific sidequests to them that it made it worth running through again with different companions. That's what I want from one of the DAI DLCs. I think they did say one more focused on companions is coming... oooor I dreamt it. 

[Illyria]

ooh, where?! *flicks back quickly* I'm nowhere near as talented or technologically minded to mod but I'd kill for some elfy Solavellan sims. Or just DA stuff in general - imagine trying to make a copy of Skyhold.

 

I had the exact same feeling about TS3 - never appealed to me as much for some reason. Possibly because it felt that, in comparison to TS2 where I had every single possible expansion, TS3 felt empty - I mean, no hot tub in the base game? Psssh.

 

Starts on page 4308 goes on for the next three to four pages.

[Sabriel.]

There was so much companion banter and even companion specific sidequests to them that it made it worth running through again with different companions. That's what I want from one of the DAI DLCs. I think they did say one more focused on companions is coming... oooor I dreamt it. 

I think it was Mark Darrah, on Twitter. He said that future DLC does have "follower content," though I'm not exactly sure what....that means. Not like he could probably say much more than that for legal reasons, but still, it was vague.

[Cee]

I love this scene with an elf Inquisitor because it shows his, like....subtly manipulative side?

 

Everyone knows Solas only reveals his cards when he's really forced to--thus only saying he knows about the orb "in theory" once the Inquisitor has seen it too--and that getting the orb back is his real goal from the beginning. So he takes a Lavellan aside and his line is something like "the orb Corypheus carried? The power he wields--it is ours." Ours. This from the guy who outright states every other time the topic comes up that he doesn't feel much in common with modern elves, uses "them/they" when referring to them, etc. etc. But he's talking about the ancient elves here: for once he's sort of elevating the mortal elf Inquisitor up to his "level," in a sense. Evoking solidarity to coax Lavellan over to his way of thinking. "Maybe we should figure this thing out so that the humans don't blame us." 

 

And this is another example of his true identity adding a lot more meaning to the things he says on a second playthrough. Trickster god indeed.

 

This is exactly why I like making the comparison with what he says to other races to a Lavellan. The way he adapts is very important and telling. He uses "ours" and "our pantheon" and his typical obscuring of meaning but in a way that sounds like a touch of kinship and vulnerability. I prefer the Lavellan version not just because it sounds really hot because of all that.

[Oswin]

I think it was Mark Darrah, on Twitter. He said that future DLC does have "follower content," though I'm not exactly sure what....that means. Not like he could probably say much more than that for legal reasons, but still, it was vague.

 

Ah, Vague. That sounds like the Bioware I know    

[Cee]

So, there's a new feature on Spotify where it puts together a new playlist of recommendations for you every week, based on what you listen to.  I just had this song and it sounds like something that could be on a Solavellan playlist:

 

 

Spoiler

"Come Here Boy"
 

It's dark in here, visions are flashing into my head
as I reminisce my reoccurring dreams and you said,
"I'm falling, falling for you babe
my feelings are getting stronger"
So why don't you stay with me for a little longer...
Come here boy, come here boy yeah
Come here boy, come here boy

I know that my face is only too familiar to your sleep
I can see it in your eyes and I can tell by your body heat
Why are you taking so long?
You need me to come and find you, honey?
set your mind at rest, let your dreams run free
Come here boy, come here boy yeah
Come here boy, come here boy yeah
Come here boy, come here boy yeah
Come here boy, come here boy

You know I'm no stranger in your dreams...
You know I'm no stranger in your dreams...
Oh and I'm craving, I'm howling, I'm begging, I'm pleading
You're mine tonight, oh yeah
Oh and I'm waiting, I'm dying, I'm wanting and I'm needing
to show you the **** I am
where I'll be touching and holding, caressing and giving you
every fantasy , yeah
I've got you dreaming and lusting, I'm burning and praying
for more of this ecstasy
come here boy, come here boy yeah
come here boy, come here boy yeah
come here boy, come here boy yeah
come here boy, come here boy yeah
come here boy, come here boy

You know I'm no stranger in your dreams...

 

[midnight tea]

This is exactly why I like making the comparison with what he says to other races to a Lavellan. The way he adapts is very important and telling. He uses "ours" and "our pantheon" and his typical obscuring of meaning but in a way that sounds like a touch of kinship and vulnerability. I prefer the Lavellan version not just because it sounds really hot because of all that.

 

I think this is also the first time in game (or at least in a cutscene) when he uses 'lethallin' for elven Inquisitor.

[Sah291]

I think this is also the first time in game (or at least in a cutscene) when he uses 'lethallin' for elven Inquisitor.

Yes it is. Unless it's possible to get him to say it when you click on him, if you get his approval up high enough in Haven? If so I've never managed to do it. I didn't make much of it the first time I played through, since Lavellan had already forced "da'len" out of him before so it seemed like a natural progression, . I do think he's probably being manipulative, though, trying to get the Quizzy on his side. But I think that might just be what he thinks Lavellan expects.

[midnight tea]

Yes it is. Unless it's possible to get him to say it when you click on him, if you get his approval up high enough in Haven? If so I've never managed to do it. I didn't make much of it the first time I played through, since Lavellan had already forced "da'len" out of him before so it seemed like a natural progression, . I do think he's probably being manipulative, though, trying to get the Quizzy on his side. But I think that might just be what he thinks Lavellan expects.

 

I think if you can make him name you 'my friend" he will use lethallin/lethallan for Lavellan prior to Skyhold - in any case, that particular cutscene may be the only time Solas uses this word to name elven Inquisitor he's not really fond of. It may indeed be him being  manipulative or him simply saying that way "OK... that was impressive, no matter what I think of you. You'll get to be in the elite club (at least for a while)".

[drosophila]

You know I'm no stranger in your dreams...

Oh and I'm craving, I'm howling, I'm begging, I'm pleading

 

Very Solavellan indeed

[MaidenM]

 I'm awaiting the arrival of my french Fallout 4 pip-boy edition with baited breath and heaving bosom. And Fire Emblem: IF. Nohr all the way! Or the secret middle path. 

 

 

Just butting in to give you a I-know-that-feel-fitsbump. It would have been a pip-boy clad fist but november is still too far away.

[drosophila]

I think if you can make him name you 'my friend" he will use lethallin/lethallan for Lavellan prior to Skyhold - in any case, that particular cutscene may be the only time Solas uses this word to name elven Inquisitor he's not really fond of. It may indeed be him being  manipulative or him simply saying that way "OK... that was impressive, no matter what I think of you. You'll get to be in the elite club (at least for a while)".

 

I watched the scene with the singing again and I though of something: We know from dialogue with disliked Inquisitor that Solas had tried to help the modern elves in some way, but no one listened to him, calling him liar, fool, madman. Then during the singing he watches humans actually kneel before the Inquisitor, rallying behind him/her, recognizing him/her as a leader - the kind of veneration Solas likely had as Fen'Harel in the past but lost. And it's because of something he himself started. If the Inquisitor is Dalish, this must be difficult to take, whether he dislikes him/her or not. I wonder what he feels: anger, jealousy, respect, hope, mere amusement at shemlen ignorance, or some combination of all of these.

[midnight tea]

I watched the scene with the singing again and I though of something: We know from dialogue with disliked Inquisitor that Solas had tried to help the modern elves in some way, but no one listened to him, calling him liar, fool, madman. Then during the singing he watches humans actually kneel before the Inquisitor, rallying behind him/her, recognizing him/her as a leader - the kind of veneration Solas likely had as Fen'Harel in the past but lost. And it's because of something he himself started. If the Inquisitor is Dalish, this must be difficult to take, whether he dislikes him/her or not. I wonder what he feels: anger, jealousy, respect, hope, mere amusement at shemlen ignorance, or some combination of all of these.

 

I think it's him mostly thinking that this is a good opportunity to give history a nudge (no different than Flemeth does ;P) as well as maybe enjoyment from the fact that he's witnessing important moments in history and being part of it (a person like him would likely be very excited by that).

 

As for jealousy... don't think so. Solas is a smartass and he likes to be a mentoring figure, but I don't think he's after veneration per se - if anything, he'd be happy if people venerated knowledge/wisdom and listened to people who actually have something important to share with them... Which is why I think he's so delighted when Inquisitor just keeps shooting questions at him and being flattered (during first conversation in Skyhold) if IQ will tell him that he respects him and his advice.