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I think the manner in which they wrote the romance implied that the connection between Solas and Lavellan was very strong. Solas is so cagey the whole way through the romance, after all... Lavellan has to push through that in order for him to give in to his feelings and allow himself to be with her, and even then much of what he says implies that while he adores her he is very conflicted. It's unlikely someone who didn't care very much would go to all that trouble for a relationship that's about as stable as a three-legged chair.

 

Though I suppose if you RP the story as stretching over a year or two, it does make sense that her feelings might wane. Especially if you're playing an older Lavellan who is slowly getting fed up with all his 'mystery'.

 

I have a friend going through a breakup after four years, and it's less than a month later and she's looking at/chatting with other guys. I was surprised she started looking so soon. But what's soon to me wouldn't be soon to someone else. So I totally get people wanting to headcanon or RP something differently but as you said, the writing has some pretty strong indicators that this hits her hard. I know that's also an issue some people have with voiced protagonists but here we are.

 

My Lavellan is a little older, I think I have her at 30/31 and having loved and lost before. I wrote into my fics that there was just so much to do and also they had talks about after Corypheus was defeated that she kind of pushed her questions back a bit, even as they lingered there in the background, thinking there would be time afterward. Especially with his 'all will be made clear'. In part because she takes the initiative and kisses him first after all and has confidence in telling him to take all the time he needs, I also write her as a bit bold in her relationships but also as being someone who feels things very strongly. She follows her heart and that has sometimes had consequences.

 

 


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Cullen's has that.  You can go to him whenever and say you want to spend some time and you get a kissing cutscene.

 

:(

 

So the Solas romance is the only one where we don't get a simple snuggly cutscene whenever we want? (Though I will concede... the fact that he's a party member we can take everywhere with us does make up for a lot in my eyes. A little imagination and headcanon, and I can convince myself that we actually do have a worthy amount of content.)

 

I'm really hope for a modder to come along and add a simple scene like that for Solas. Like Zevkisses in Origins. I love that mod.  :P



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:(

 

So the Solas romance is the only one where we don't get a simple snuggly cutscene whenever we want? (Though I will concede... the fact that he's a party member we can take everywhere with us does make up for a lot in my eyes. A little imagination and headcanon, and I can convince myself that we actually do have a worthy amount of content.)

 

I'm really hope for a modder to come along and add a simple scene like that for Solas. Like Zevkisses in Origins. I love that mod.  :P

I'm actually fine with the lack of the random kiss option in this case. I can easily pretend that it's happening, I guess? Frankly Solasmancers get three really good makeouts through the normal romance path, like one per scene. Except Winter Palace I guess, but nobody gets that. I didn't personally feel like he had too few cutscenes, and I think Solas' is actually one of the best-paced romances in the game at that (though splitting the post-Temple of Mythal conversation and the breakup in Crestwood into two scenes might have worked out better, if not for the fact that there's nothing to do after that story-wise except the final boss). So the notion of not being able to make out for five seconds whenever you want being the difference between whether or not the quantity of content is "worthy" is a little strange to me.

 

Not that I'm against someone modding it in, though. Go crazy with those things.



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I have a friend going through a breakup after four years, and it's less than a month later and she's looking at/chatting with other guys. I was surprised she started looking so soon. But what's soon to me wouldn't be soon to someone else. So I totally get people wanting to headcanon or RP something differently but as you said, the writing has some pretty strong indicators that this hits her hard. I know that's also an issue some people have with voiced protagonists but here we are.

 

My Lavellan is a little older, I think I have her at 30/31 and having loved and lost before. I wrote into my fics that there was just so much to do and also they had talks about after Corypheus was defeated that she kind of pushed her questions back a bit, even as they lingered there in the background, thinking there would be time afterward. Especially with his 'all will be made clear'. In part because she takes the initiative and kisses him first after all and has confidence in telling him to take all the time he needs, I also write her as a bit bold in her relationships but also as being someone who feels things very strongly. She follows her heart and that has sometimes had consequences.

 

My Lavellan is rather the opposite. She's quite young, maybe 20/22-ish, and while she has a wise spirit, that youth makes her rather naive. Her Keeper sent her off to spy on the conclave because, as First, she needed the opportunity to grow and develop some independence. Her whole story arc throughout the Inquisition is about maturing; learning to trust in her own capabilities as a leader and gaining confidence in her own decisions. She leans on her friends and advisors a great deal at the beginning, never being quite sure if what she's doing is right. That slowly changes over the year or so that she's with the Inquisition. By the end, while she still relies a great deal on her friends, she's a much stronger person.

 

She's had few dalliances, but they were casual. Solas is the first person who's ever meant this much to her. They connect on a level she never thought possible, and she is absolutely devastated when he leaves. It would have broken her before the events of the Inquisition. It nearly does anyway - she holds it together only because so many people are relying on her.

 

After Solas disappears, there's no doubt in my mind that she would pour everything she has into finding him. She's worried for him. She's more observant than her age might credit her with, and as their relationship deepened and she began to glimpse further into convoluted web that was his life, she realised there was so much more to him than was apparent on the surface. His wisdom, his talks of war with Blackwall, the strange conversations he held with Cole, it all implied that he'd seen so much more than could possibly be seen in one lifetime... even in the fade. At first, it's a vague and niggling sense at the back of her mind. She doesn't question him about it. For all her curiosity, she knows when not to pry. (She thinks her relationship with Solas is like trying to hold smoke; grasp at it, and it slips through your fingers. But hold out your hands, and it will curl around you and rest gently in your palms.) After the whole Well Of Sorrows quest and the break-up she's almost certain she's right - Solas is much older than he implies. Upon reading the letter from Leliana about his village, she's absolutely sure of it.

 

Of course, if/when she discovers the whole truth of what he really is, she's still going to be dumbfounded. It'll certainly make his amusement about her fondness for wolves a lot more meaningful in hindsight.


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I'm actually fine with the lack of the random kiss option in this case. I can easily pretend that it's happening, I guess? Frankly Solasmancers get three really good makeouts through the normal romance path, like one per scene. Except Winter Palace I guess, but nobody gets that. I didn't personally feel like he had too few cutscenes, and I think Solas' is actually one of the best-paced romances in the game at that (though splitting the post-Temple of Mythal conversation and the breakup in Crestwood into two scenes might have worked out better, if not for the fact that there's nothing to do after that story-wise except the final boss). So the notion of not being able to make out for five seconds whenever you want being the difference between whether or not the quantity of content is "worthy" is a little strange to me.

 

Not that I'm against someone modding it in, though. Go crazy with those things.

 

I don't mean to imply that the romance as a whole isn't 'worthy' compared to the others - I adore it! I just wish there was more of it. Like I said, I fill in the gaps with my own imagination rather vividly... but a few extra cutscenes wouldn't have hurt.  ;)

 

That said, I'd still take the fact that Solas an active party member over the couple of extra cutscenes Cullenmancers get any day. One of the biggest reasons my Lavellan didn't fall for Cullen is that he's harder to 'get to know'. He's not in the party, and you don't really get much casual dialogue with him until Skyhold. The early flirt scenes with Solas are much better. Besides, I like to imagine Lavellan doing silly things with Solas early on in the field... like challenging him to a race across the grassy parts of the Hinterlands, or freezing his water as he was about to drink it, or asking him to teach her a few spells she'd seen him use. He's the only other elf in the party at that point, and even before she starts falling for him, she really just wants a friend. (She likes Varric but has never even seen a dwarf before, and she's still terrified of Cassandra at this early stage. :P )



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Mine is definitely going to be looking for him, and she has her suspicions too. She grows closer to Dorian and to Leliana. Leliana is Divine in my playthrough but I feel like they would be good friends by then, even though Leliana kind of scared her a bit at first. :lol:  Cole helps as well. 

 

In my headcanon, she earned her place at the Conclave over time. Taking her role within her clan very seriously, being a dutiful protector and supplier, as well as eldest in her family. The relationship with Solas affects her quite deeply. He is very important to her and their connection is different. But she was with her first love for over five years and I haven't written it yet, but my headcanon is they decide to formally bond (even though they are both women) but never quite make it to that point. But having had important relationships doesn't diminish what the relationship with Solas means to her. Just gives her additional perspective and experience. Heartbreak is pretty terrible even if you've been through it before. :P


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I assume it's mostly budget... ALTHOUGH, Cullen was added at the same time as well and he got far more romance material - about the same amount other LIs got.

 

Eh, it might just be the sneaky card then, though only because of the whole Dread Wolf thing. There's just no telling at this point where this whole romance thing will go (with any LI, really)... though the fact that Solas romance locks right after he dumps Lavellan should likely tell us that they're planning some sort of continuation.

 

Actually, I think Solas was added in later than Cullen. Greg Ellis leaked that Cullen was an LI back in early 2014 (I think.  He deleted the tweets but he was the first known male LI anyway).  People actually thought he'd be the main het LI for women due to this.
 



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My Lavellan is rather the opposite. She's quite young, maybe 20/22-ish, and while she has a wise spirit, that youth makes her rather naive. Her Keeper sent her off to spy on the conclave because, as First, she needed the opportunity to grow and develop some independence. Her whole story arc throughout the Inquisition is about maturing; learning to trust in her own capabilities as a leader and gaining confidence in her own decisions. She leans on her friends and advisors a great deal at the beginning, never being quite sure if what she's doing is right. That slowly changes over the year or so that she's with the Inquisition. By the end, while she still relies a great deal on her friends, she's a much stronger person.
 
She's had few dalliances, but they were casual. Solas is the first person who's ever meant this much to her. They connect on a level she never thought possible, and she is absolutely devastated when he leaves. It would have broken her before the events of the Inquisition. It nearly does anyway - she holds it together only because so many people are relying on her.
 
After Solas disappears, there's no doubt in my mind that she would pour everything she has into finding him. She's worried for him. She's more observant than her age might credit her with, and as their relationship deepened and she began to glimpse further into convoluted web that was his life, she realised there was so much more to him than was apparent on the surface. His wisdom, his talks of war with Blackwall, the strange conversations he held with Cole, it all implied that he'd seen so much more than could possibly be seen in one lifetime... even in the fade. At first, it's a vague and niggling sense at the back of her mind. She doesn't question him about it. For all her curiosity, she knows when not to pry. (She thinks her relationship with Solas is like trying to hold smoke; grasp at it, and it slips through your fingers. But hold out your hands, and it will curl around you and rest gently in your palms.) After the whole Well Of Sorrows quest and the break-up she's almost certain she's right - Solas is much older than he implies. Upon reading the letter from Leliana about his village, she's absolutely sure of it.
 
Of course, if/when she discovers the whole truth of what he really is, she's still going to be dumbfounded. It'll certainly make his amusement about her fondness for wolves a lot more meaningful in hindsight.


Although my Lavellan is 10 years older, she feels the same.
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Yeah, too bad Radovid died like a ****** in my game

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Why's Solas the only romance option who doesn't get a special "let's spend time together" cutscene? Hmm, maybe it also has to do with the fact that the romance doesn't lock in until... well, the heartbreak. Either they just didn't have enough resources/time or Weekes is playing a sneaky card here.


I think, for me at least, this makes the romance way more epic. Cullen is the guy you marry and settle down with, and Solas is the guy you have this brief passionate affair that makes you think your soul is being ripped in half when he leaves. I like that there's always a tension there that they don't always act upon.
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There's a mod that gets rid of Solas' freckles D:

 

And also adds huge eyebrows.



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There's a mod that gets rid of Solas' freckles D:

 

And also adds huge eyebrows.

 

This one, or is there another? http://i.imgur.com/DjiVEn4.png



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My Lavellan is 28 and has been a spy for the last 10 years, spending more time in the alienages than with the clan. There have been plenty of one-night stands there, but nobody serious. She struggles to be vulnerable with someone, even Solas, but she cannot resist how he challenges her, always being just out of reach.

 

Right before their first kiss, she thinks, You think you can resist me? Very well, let's play. The whole time she believes she can actually outmaneuver him, make him confess, make him be entirely hers.  She actively pursues him despite all the red flags and I think in the end she gets no more and no less than she deserves. The breakup is just one in a series of events that make her realize she's not as smart as she thinks. 

 

She's not surprised Solas ran away, because she's thought of doing the same. Once Corypheus has been defeated, these two apostates are no longer needed and their position, and the fate of the Inquisition as a whole, are very precarious. She knows he's hiding something, but she thinks his secrets are personal, rather than having to do with the fate of Thedas. So she thinks he ran away, so that he cannot be forced into a circle (she allied with the templars and wants the circles restored), and actively dissuades Leliana from looking for him. Something will need to happen to change that, we'll see.


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This one, or is there another? http://i.imgur.com/DjiVEn4.png

 

Another one!



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Oh dear, why?

 

It's things like this and the "realistic sweat" mod for DAI that make me scratch my head.


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There's a mod that gets rid of Solas' freckles D:

 

And also adds huge eyebrows.

What is the deal with modding Solas with black caterpillar eyebrows, anyway? They look ridiculous. Maybe people want him to look more sinister or something?


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That's a crime getting rid of Solas' adorable freckles!!!!!!!  :(


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What is the deal with modding Solas with black caterpillar eyebrows, anyway? They look ridiculous. Maybe people want him to look more sinister or something?

 

It makes me think Chinese opera.

 

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edit: Well this wound up on top. :lol:


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Art break. :)

 

Solas and Lavellan resting under a tree.

 

Sad Solas.

 

Concept!Solas.

 

Adaar likes hearing Grandpa Solas' stories about the Fade. 


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It makes me think Chinese opera.

 

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edit: Well this wound up on top. :lol:

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 SO, given the staggering number of fans who revere the Grey Wardens, how do Solas fans feel about his antagonism towards their 'Order? And please do not say "well, he makes some good points..." because that is kind of a cop-out. Do you feel he has the right idea, in general, or not?


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 SO, given the staggering number of fans who revere the Grey Wardens, how do Solas fans feel about his antagonism towards their 'Order? And please do not say "well, he makes some good points..." because that is kind of a cop-out. Do you feel he has the right idea, in general, or not?

 

How is saying Solas has some good points a cop out?


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SO, given the staggering number of fans who revere the Grey Wardens, how do Solas fans feel about his antagonism towards their 'Order? And please do not say "well, he makes some good points..." because that is kind of a cop-out. Do you feel he has the right idea, in general, or not?


I started the DA series with Inquisition, so sadly my first impressions of the Wardens were formed by Blackwall and Clarell. All I can say is that Solas objectively has the right idea, he seems to know much more about the Blight than the Wardens do. What perplexes me is why he wouldn't share that knowledge, he wants to help save the world from the Breach, but not from the Blight?
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...Now I kind of want to see Bull, Dorian, and Solas dressed as geishas doing that fan pose.  :lol: I don't know why those three. They were just the first ones I thought of doing this kind of thing. I don't know how they roped Solas into it though. Maybe Lavellan gave him the doe eyes...


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