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[drosophila]

I had a thought because of our discussion, but it's not directly related, so I'm posting it separately. You know what would be the saddest ending for me, either in DLC or a future game? Not Solas dying or Solavellan never being addressed again, but seeing Solas become truly evil. As in, going so far that he compromises the very moral principles he upholds. Seeing him corrupt a spirit, subjugate others, do something else truly heartless... I would be very, very sad. 

[Nightspirit]

He said something at some point that suggested he believed Cory would've died when he unlocked the power of the Orb. I can't remember exactly when and what it was, though.

 

He said it during the first conversation in Skyhold.

 

"I suspect the blast that destroyed the Conclave was more accident than anything... The result of unlocking power that had sought release for ages. What I cannot understand is how he managed to survive such an explosion."

 

Maybe the explosion really wasn't supposed to happen, he had no reason to bring it up and lie about it. And since the Herald was the only person to walk out of there alive (probably possible thanks to the anchor + spirit Justinia), it seemed strange how someone else could've survived. Cory's body-surfing abilities were unknown at the time.

That's how I understand it anyway.

[The Oracle]

I had a thought because of our discussion, but it's not directly related, so I'm posting it separately. You know what would be the saddest ending for me, either in DLC or a future game? Not Solas dying or Solavellan never being addressed again, but seeing Solas become truly evil. As in, going so far that he compromises the very moral principles he upholds. Seeing him corrupt a spirit, subjugate others, do something else truly heartless... I would be very, very sad. 

 

Hmmm, I'd be a bit disappointed if they went down such an obvious trope route. We've already had that with Loghain. I'd like to think they would come up with something more original and in keeping with his character than rehashing the *villain plots of their former games.

 

*Edited to make more sense.

[drosophila]

I mean, let's face it - if he, (presumably) an ancient elvhen god, was too weak to unlock HIS Orb (even if the reason he was weakened was his long slumber), then how come a mere darkspawn magister with no knowledge what the Orb was could? That is... unless.. Corypheus has someone who helped him do it? ....Why can't I help to think that Mythal was involved in this?

 

Mythal as in Flemeth? Interesting... So I always interpreted that after credits scene that either Solas and Flemeth are friends and are working together towards a common goal or Solas is betraying Flemeth. But what if it is Flemeth who is playing him? 

[KarateKats]

I had a thought because of our discussion, but it's not directly related, so I'm posting it separately. You know what would be the saddest ending for me, either in DLC or a future game? Not Solas dying or Solavellan never being addressed again, but seeing Solas become truly evil. As in, going so far that he compromises the very moral principles he upholds. Seeing him corrupt a spirit, subjugate others, do something else truly heartless... I would be very, very sad. 

This sort of ending would be terribly sad for him, but at the same time it sounds really really exciting to me no matter how much I love his character. I enjoy watching the birth of a good villain and it would make his arc so very tragic. Also, he'd look really good in evil. But then again I have a thing for evil magical lords (Hello Nights King and Eredin.), bonus points in they're undead and ancient.

[Illyria]

Oh dear, why?

 

It's things like this and the "realistic sweat" mod for DAI that make me scratch my head.

 

Why would ANYONE want to make the faces more shiny?

 

What is the deal with modding Solas with black caterpillar eyebrows, anyway? They look ridiculous. Maybe people want him to look more sinister or something?

 

It's werid because most eyebrow mods for Inky remove the bushyness.

 

That's a crime getting rid of Solas' adorable freckles!!!!!!! 

 

Solas Greatly Disapproves.

 

I don't really think that's the case. People don't want to listen to him, much less to (controversial) solutions he might have. He did say (to disliked Inquisitor) that he's grown weary of not being heeded and that in time it grinds away - so it may be that he just learned to not say much, as he thinks that people wouldn't consider his ideas anyway.

 

I think it's time to bring out the WHAT UP NERDS, UR ALL WRONG picture again.

 

WHY WOULD ANYONE GET RID OF HIS FRECKLES?!  

 

I KNOW.

[Elessara]

Mythal as in Flemeth? Interesting... So I always interpreted that after credits scene that either Solas and Flemeth are friends and are working together towards a common goal or Solas is betraying Flemeth. But what if it is Flemeth who is playing him? 

 

To be honest, I've always rather thought this.  Mythal/Flemeth has been pulling strings for a long time.  Since that last cutscene I've always had the impression that they've been friends for thousands of years but also she's totally playing him like she's been playing probably most of Thedas.

[The Oracle]

Wasn't the whole spock eyebrows, freckle removal mod an attempt to make him look more like Thranduil from The Hobbit movies? Or are we talking about a new one? I never get mods that change the characters look. The "soften Cassandra" or "clean Cullen" or "debeard Blackwall". Why? It's Dragon Age, not Thedas' Next Top Model. (though I DO wish they hadn't given Leliana yellow eyeshadow. It's just wrong. Not sure if they meant it to be gold, but it looks bright yellow and NO-ONE wears yellow eyeshadow.)

[midnight tea]

Solas speaks with the authority of someone who has always been listened to, without question. He approves when you ask questions, but does not approve when you question him directly. I would love to have found out what he said to the Dalish, upon meeting them. 

 

Well no, it doesn't appear to be true. He LIKES to be listened to (likely when he thinks he has something to offer), he likes being a mentoring figure, that's pretty obvious - but he admits to a (disliked) Inquisitor that instead of being heeded, more often than not he was ridiculed or refused to be listened for his views.

 

I'm also not sure if he doesn't like being questioned - what he dislikes the most is actually when people stop firing questions at him. He likes when people don't give up and keep prodding for answers, even when he's abrasive or evasive; and he always disapproves the most when IQ doesn't want to discuss things with him or just says "this conversation is over", no matter how difficult or uncomfortable the topic is.

 

 

 

"Hello. I'm Solas. Oh, I see you are wearing the ancient slave markings as some twisted form of remembrance of the past. That's wrong and horrible. You need to stop doing that. The Gods you like were most likely sh*theads. Proof? Oh, well I've been in the Fade and seen it. Trust me. Here, let me wipe of all your markings while I list more of your failures."

 

Um, only we have no proof that this is what was happening^^; Even during (heated) conversation about the Dalish with Dalish Inquisitors, he's never so direct and crude - he only claims that they don't know much, yet they're convinced they know what their ancient culture and 'elfiness' was about. It might be as well that he was kicked out of clan he tried to have conversation with when he just began talking about how some of the things they believe in are not correct. 

 

We know, for example, that when (human) Inquisitors chat about things with hunters from (pretty friendly) Dalish clan we meet, one of hunters admits that his brethren dwells in the past too much and maybe it's time to forgive, yet he pleads to Quizzy NOT to tell about how he feels to his Keeper. The Dalish simply appear to be very touchy that way. 

 

Plus, let's not forget after all, that (even if it was a thing he came up on spot to cover up the real reason why he wanted to talk with IQ), it's only after Lavellan proves to be open-minded and able to bear harsh truths, he chooses to reveal the truth about Vallaslin. That itself suggest that he doesn't just approach the random Dalish and criticizes him for wearing it in the first place.

 

That is not to say that Solas wasn't blunt about some things from the start when he actually met (some) Dalish. He possibly was - I can totally see that.

But as someone who likes to talk about difficult topics, as well as being raised in a culture with people who can be similarly touchy abut their culture and beliefs, I know firsthand how hard it can be to even start a conversation, much less reach the point where I reveal what I REALLY think about some things. I sometimes can't even go past "You know, the thing you think is true might not be entirely accurate", to have people completely freak out at me.

[Illyria]

Wasn't the whole spock eyebrows, freckle removal mod an attempt to make him look more like Thranduil from The Hobbit movies? Or are we talking about a new one? I never get mods that change the characters look. The "soften Cassandra" or "clean Cullen" or "debeard Blackwall". Why? It's Dragon Age, not Thedas' Next Top Model. (though I DO wish they hadn't given Leliana yellow eyeshadow. It's just wrong. Not sure if they meant it to be gold, but it looks bright yellow and NO-ONE wears yellow eyeshadow.)

 

This is a new one.  Freckles removed, big eyebrows, 'softer' skin, more scars.

 

... I will admit - I use the Rainer'd Blackwall mod, but it's in a mod folder meant for post-Revelations.  I also use several de-shine mods, a mod that gives Sera hair closer to an older concept art (really short and very cute) and one that removes Leliana's terrible eyeshadow.  I hate changing the way characters look drastically.  With the except of Sten (who now uses a DA2 desgin) none of my companions are obviously modded.

[Illyria]

So I just hunted on google to find the WHAT UP NERDS picture and this thread is the first four search results.

 

I'm so proud of us, guys.

[midnight tea]

Mythal as in Flemeth? Interesting... So I always interpreted that after credits scene that either Solas and Flemeth are friends and are working together towards a common goal or Solas is betraying Flemeth. But what if it is Flemeth who is playing him? 

 

I don't think they were working together - there's enough in ToM to suggest that he's surprised that she keeps enduring. I mean, they might have worked together to achieve some goal at a time (in post-epilogue scene I think they conveyed pretty well that they've known one another and considered themselves close friends, at least at some point), OR he might have suspected that she survived in some form, but maybe only at that moment he realized just how involved she is in all this.

 

Anyway - I'm mostly suspecting that Flemythal might have been more involved in the whole orb/Corypheus thing, because of what Morrigan said in conversation that happened after the sequence in the Fade. If you approach her and talk about what happened, she will say "I feel certain what happened at the Temple Of Mythal must have somehow have been her influence." IQ agrees that she might be right and she continues "''Twas a temple dedicated to her, after all. Is it a coincidence we ended up there? There must be a connection we cannot see!" (there's more, depending what dialogue option IQ chooses).

 

She has a point. Why is it that Corypheus organized all of his remaining forces and put his entire faith in reaching the forgotten temple nobody was aware existed for thousands of years? How is it he's convinced that Well Of Sorrows would help him achieve his goal and how come he knows specifically about it? Was there something - or someone - that whispered that idea to him?

 

Or how is it that - when Inquisitor drinks from the Well - we an pretty clearly hear Flemeth's voice telling Inquisitor that Corypheus will not hide (after his defeat in ToM)? How does she know that?

[Caritas_Lavellan]

Calling anyone who ever loved Solas - or still does.

 

Please consider reading my story at Mind Heart and the thread I've just started on this forum. I have dipped into this thread before and seen some fantastic ideas and beautiful artworks, but this is my first post.

 

Melana en athim las enaste: may humility grant favour.

[S.W.]

I had a thought because of our discussion, but it's not directly related, so I'm posting it separately. You know what would be the saddest ending for me, either in DLC or a future game? Not Solas dying or Solavellan never being addressed again, but seeing Solas become truly evil. As in, going so far that he compromises the very moral principles he upholds. Seeing him corrupt a spirit, subjugate others, do something else truly heartless... I would be very, very sad. 

 

I used to think this was possible, and used to be scared that they'd screw it up, but I think Weekes is a better writer than that. If he's an antagonist, it'll only be in the sense that he opposes your mission and has different motives.

 

Wasn't the whole spock eyebrows, freckle removal mod an attempt to make him look more like Thranduil from The Hobbit movies? Or are we talking about a new one? I never get mods that change the characters look. The "soften Cassandra" or "clean Cullen" or "debeard Blackwall". Why? It's Dragon Age, not Thedas' Next Top Model. (though I DO wish they hadn't given Leliana yellow eyeshadow. It's just wrong. Not sure if they meant it to be gold, but it looks bright yellow and NO-ONE wears yellow eyeshadow.)

 

Leliana's yellow eyeshadow was a fashion crime unworthy of her. Dear Maker, why.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

This sort of ending would be terribly sad for him, but at the same time it sounds really really exciting to me no matter how much I love his character. I enjoy watching the birth of a good villain and it would make his arc so very tragic. Also, he'd look really good in evil. But then again I have a thing for evil magical lords (Hello Nights King and Eredin.), bonus points in they're undead and ancient.

 

 

AGREED.

[Illyria]

Calling anyone who ever loved Solas - or still does.

 

Please consider reading my story at Mind Heart and the thread I've just started on this forum. I have dipped into this thread before and seen some fantastic ideas and beautiful artworks, but this is my first post.

 

Melana en athim las enaste: may humility grant favour.

 

I'm reading it at the moment and I like it so far.

 

Anath ara, Lethallin.

[Zombie_Alexis]

Zevran's mother was Dalish but I don't think there has been an explanation about his face tattoos. Just something they threw in maybe. And they have refined and changed a few things since Origins.

 

There was an explanation in Origins in a dialogue between Zev and Leliana. Some are "sacred to the Crows" and others are meant to "accentuate body curves". You can hear the dialogue at the 3:03 mark:

 

 

(Sorry for the late reply. It takes me so long to catch up on this thread. I get up to make some lunch and a hundred pages go by!)

 

Edited for stupid grammar.

[randomcheeses]

Something to remember about Solas: Dude was worshipped as a literal god. He's used to being accorded a certain level of respect, whether or not he actually deserves it. When he's not shown that respect, it's bound to grate a bit, despite his best intentions. 

[The Oracle]

Well no, it doesn't appear to be true. He LIKES to be listened to (likely when he thinks he has something to offer), he likes being a mentoring figure, that's pretty obvious - but he admits to a (disliked) Inquisitor that instead of being heeded, more often than not he was ridiculed or refused to be listened for his views.

 

I'm also not sure if he doesn't like being questioned - what he dislikes the most is actually when people stop firing questions at him. He likes when people don't give up and keep prodding for answers, even when he's abrasive or evasive; and he always disapproves the most when IQ doesn't want to discuss things with him or just says "this conversation is over", no matter how difficult or uncomfortable the topic is.

 

But that's just the thing, why *would* they listen and agree with his views? They don't know him from Bob. He's a stranger they've met who approaches them and then tells them that much of their accumulated lore and history, passed down through generations, was wrong. Where's the evidence for this? Why would they trust the words of a complete stranger over all they've known? It's like me going to a church and explaining that I used a time machine, went back Jerusalem, and found out that Jesus was actually just a hustler who knew a few party tricks and slight of hand. I'd be more disappointed is they *were* actually swayed from their beliefs by him.

 

Um, only we have no proof that this is what was happening^^; Even during (heated) conversation about the Dalish with Dalish Inquisitors, he's never so direct and crude - he only claims that they don't know much, yet they're convinced they know what their ancient culture and 'elfiness' was about. It might be as well that he was kicked out of clan he tried to have conversation with when he just began talking about how some of the things they believe in are not correct. 

 

We know, for example, that when (human) Inquisitors chat about things with hunters from (pretty friendly) Dalish clan we meet, one of hunters admits that his brethren dwells in the past too much and maybe it's time to forgive, yet he pleads to Quizzy NOT to tell about how he feels to his Keeper. The Dalish simply appear to be very touchy that way. 

 

Plus, let's not forget after all, that (even if it was a thing he came up on spot to cover up the real reason why he wanted to talk with IQ), it's only after Lavellan proves to be open-minded and able to bear harsh truths, he chooses to reveal the truth about Vallaslin. That itself suggest that he doesn't just approach the random Dalish and criticizes him for wearing it in the first place.

 

That is not to say that Solas wasn't blunt about some things from the start when he actually met (some) Dalish. He possibly was - I can totally see that.

But as someone who likes to talk about difficult topics, as well as being raised in a culture with people who can be similarly touchy abut their culture and beliefs, I know firsthand how hard it can be to even start a conversation, much less reach the point where I reveal what I REALLY think about some things. I sometimes can't even go past "You know, the thing you think is true might not be entirely accurate", to have people completely freak out at me.

 

I know, I was just exaggerating for humour. :-p The thing is, I'm sure that when you approach people to debate with them, you actually have something to back up what you say. Books, studies, information gathered and shared. Things that you can hold up to back your claims, something that they can take to ponder over and research themselves. What does Solas have except for his word? And what is the unbacked word of one stranger over the accumulated history of your people? Lavellan believes him because they have built up a foundation of mutual trust and respect, but even then, she doesn't necessarily have to. He tells her he saw it in the Fade, but even he admits that the Fade isn't a true reflection of events, that it's as reliable as the people who witnessed it. I doubt the Dalish has as much time to build trust and experience the fruits of his knowledge enough to believe his opinions over everything they have ever known.

 

*Edited for format

[Lunapur]

Wasn't the whole spock eyebrows, freckle removal mod an attempt to make him look more like Thranduil from The Hobbit movies? Or are we talking about a new one? I never get mods that change the characters look. The "soften Cassandra" or "clean Cullen" or "debeard Blackwall". Why? It's Dragon Age, not Thedas' Next Top Model. (though I DO wish they hadn't given Leliana yellow eyeshadow. It's just wrong. Not sure if they meant it to be gold, but it looks bright yellow and NO-ONE wears yellow eyeshadow.)

This looks really awesome i really like it in game Solas is so different but so hot 

Link for his outfit http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/675/?

Link for his face edit http://endless-lazin...ersion-played-a

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As for the eye-shadow i am using yellow on one of my Lavellans

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Oh and just in case u missed it i made a hairstyle still a work in progress i have yet to find a way to manipulate he hair the way i want (have to do some research i barely opened 3ds max a few days back ).

Download here http://www.mediafire...3312o/WildH.rar

Looks like this 

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Still a few hair strands i have to fix cuz they overlap each other but till i find a solution on how to make them better this will have to do for now:P

Oh i forgot..replaces this 

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[dawnstone]

I'll admit, Solas did annoy me a bit with his dismissal of the Grey Wardens.

 

"They've bought us some time," I'm sure he said in one of this companion dialogue lines. I wonder if Solas has ever seen a Blight, outside of what the Fade mirrors? The mass swarm of death that rampages the land, sickening  everything in it's wake. Would he have preferred to wake up to a land covered in Darkspawn and the Taint instead? Would he just then deride how all the idiots about him seemed to fight back so ineffectually?

 

He snidely points out that the Grey Wardens have made no progress on finding a stop for the Blight, and then freaks out about them attempting to stop the Blight. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there plan was a good idea at all. Blood Magic + Obviously Evil Magister + Demons = Horrendous Idea. He may well have some great meta knowledge on the consequences, but how can you then call the Warden's fools for not? Oh sorry, should they just wait around for fantastically knowledgeable Ancient Elvhen God to wander up to them and explain, without providing a viable alternative, how they're sacrifices for hundreds of years have been in vain?

 

It does smack of some of his worst traits.

See, I think (and I'm going to dump a whole lot of personal theories in here, btw, grain of salt etc etc) Solas has seen Blight magic at work, as suggested by Andruil's codex entries and his discussions with Vivienne about Corypheus.

 

He acknowledges the Blight/the taint as magic first of all, as something he's seen used in the past, which could not be controlled ("Corypheus drinks from three cups ...and one of them is poison." "The blight corrupts everything it touches. Those who believe themselves capable of using it safely are mad."). Likely, abuse of Blight magic had a great deal to do with him having to seal away the various members of his people's pantheons. Perhaps he was looking at the destruction of the entire world and had to put together a plan very quickly. He clearly did not consider the long-term repercussions to the elves, other than believing that they would survive in some recognizable form as he took to Uthenera.

 

I don't believe the darkspawn were around then (in their current incarnation, anyway), however, when he locked the Creators/Forgotten ones away - in fact I believe the whole reason the magisters were tainted and spread the taint to the rest of Thedas is that the Black City in the Fade that they visited, is Arlathan. Perhaps, the last time Solas used his orb in any major way, it was to send Blighted Arlathan and all of the Blighted gods there with it into the Fade, behind the Veil, which was strengthened to the point it cut off the elves from their connection to the Fade, but kept the taint contained there.

 

And his plan worked for possibly 2500 years (if you believe the Creators were sealed away and the Veil created around 4750 FA - though it came at the cost of elven immortality, the humans later conquering his people, and then some idiot magisters letting the taint out anyway in 7205 FA.

 

Now about the Old Gods. What are they doing? Sleeping. Dreaming in magical prisons built cooperatively by elves, humans and dwarves. It is possible that they are being forced to maintain something important in the Fade, possibly against their will, that is powered by their dreams (like say a prison for the Creators?). The fewer Old Gods there are, the weaker this construct may get. And now that the darkspawn are a thing, unless the taint is cured, it seems inevitable that they will finish the job of corrupting the last two Old Gods, forcing the GW's to kill them as Archdemons and then after that possibly, ugh, eternal Blight.

 

I think Solas is desperate to find a solution for the taint.

 

He has to know more than he's saying - he couldn't come clean to the Inquisition about it because the Breach was the more immediate danger to the world. To reveal himself or his connection to the orb would have been a distraction, as well as have probably cost him his life and his ultimate mission - which I believe is eliminating or finding a cure for the taint. I don't think Flemeth/Mythal would have given up her power to him for anything less. She was able to mitigate it for a time perhaps helping create and guide the Grey Wardens, but it was never a permanent solution. She, at the very least, saw the writing on the wall and has put one of her cards in Solas' hand on purpose (and she put a wisp of herself in the mirror, so she can live on to see the results/live on with Morrigan), because she believes or knows he has some power to effect lasting change, even if the means are not savory (ie, will cost thousands of lives and untold destruction).

 

If he is frustrated and angry with the Grey Wardens it's likely a combination of the fact that they're not only using Blight magic and killing the Archdemons which could be weakening the process he has in place to keep the Blighted pantheon imprisoned (who probably also want to kill him tainted or not, and will make everything worse if they get free), but also that the GW whose sole purpose is to combat tainted things, have shown no progress in solving the Blight problem in the 1200 years it has been further wrecking Thedas.

 

All they have done, is what Solas and whoever helped him in ancient times possibly managed to do: buy some time.

 

Now it's crunch time and the GW's are working backwards by trying to kill the Old Gods before they're corrupt, have shown themselves vulnerable to manipulation and outright domination by certain types of darkspawn due to the taint, and now are apparently plagued by infighting. I wouldn't want to work with them either, and I've banished them in all of my playthroughs. They're just too unstable and keeping them in the Inquisition leaves it open to Corypheus popping into one of their bodies any time he likes.

[The Oracle]

This looks really awesome i really like it in game Solas is so different but so hot 

Link for his outfit http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/675/?

Link for his face edit http://endless-lazin...ersion-played-a

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As for the eye-shadow i am using yellow on one of my Lavellans

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Oh and just in case u missed it i made a hairstyle still a work in progress i have yet to find a way to manipulate he hair the way i want (have to do some research i barely opened 3ds max a few days back ).

Download here http://www.mediafire...3312o/WildH.rar

Looks like this 

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Still a few hair strands i have to fix cuz they overlap each other but till i find a solution on how to make them better this will have to do for now:P

Oh i forgot..replaces this 

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Hmm well you can keep the Solas hair mod, yuch. Sorry, but I like him precisely as he is.  Also, from the pictures, I would describe your characters eyecolour as looking more of a spring green (yellowy green) than a leliana yellow. This could however be the the lighting. The hair your working on looks very nice though.

[midnight tea]

But that's just the thing, why *would* they listen and agree with his views? They don't know him from Bob. He's a stranger they've met who approaches them and then tells them that much of their accumulated lore and history, passed down through generations, was wrong. Where's the evidence for this? Why would they trust the words of a complete stranger over all they've known? It's like me going to a church and explaining that I used a time machine, went back Jerusalem, and found out that Jesus was actually just a hustler who knew a few party tricks and slight of hand. I'd be more disappointed is they *were* actually swayed from their beliefs by him.

 

Er, wait.... we don't know if he just approaches random Dalish as well, do we? We definitely don't hear him preaching at the friendly Dalish clan on Exalted Plains, and he only reveals his opinion about Dalish culture to Lavellan when he/she directly asks him about it.

 

Therefore assuming that he just walks from clan to clan and tries to spread his message like some sort of Jehova's Witness is kinda unfounded. We simply don't know the circumstances in which he was asked things about, or shared his opinion.

 

In fact, the one thing we seem to know is that some Dalish still worship and sometimes ask Fen'Harel for answers - and (apparently) sometimes he responds

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(from DA tabletop player guide: "Despite this wariness, Fen'Harel is reputed by the Dalish to continue to interact with elves, sporting with them or dispensing dark knowledge at his whim"

 

It might be therefore that sometimes some elves feel that a particular god has answers they're seeking (even if he's generally viewed as an antagonistic force in their myths), yet -  even if the help and answers were sincere, but those were not what the Dalish wanted to hear - they might have ignored him or his warnings.

 

Or it may be that he guises himself as a spirit, when they chose to visit the Fade/Beyond in search of answers*, yet because of their preconceptions of the Fade, they dont'listen to him.

 

*(btw, a lot of people seem to think that the whole "Ameridan defeats the wolf" story in JoH is Fen'Harel-related, but I think it's nothing more than a blatant red herring. What's FAR MORE interesting than that story is the memory of Ameridan we find nearby, when he mentions his SPIRIT COMPANION giving him advice how to stop Hakkon).

 

 

 

The thing is, I'm sure that when you approach people to debate with them, you actually have something to back up what you say. Books, studies, information gathered and shared. Things that you can hold up to back your claims, something that they can take to ponder over and research themselves. What does Solas have except for his word? And what is the unbacked word of one stranger over the accumulated history of your people? Lavellan believes him because they have built up a foundation of mutual trust and respect, but even then, she doesn't necessarily have to. He tells her he saw it in the Fade, but even he admits that the Fade isn't a true reflection of events, that it's as reliable as the people who witnessed it. I doubt the Dalish has as much time to build trust and experience the fruits of his knowledge enough to believe his opinions over everything they have ever known.

 

That's assuming that he approached them, physically and with nothing but his words. I think however that Solas is simply smarter than that. I'd be surprised if he didn't try to prove himself and his knowledge, just like he proves to Cassandra/Leliana/rest that he indeed knows a ton about the Fade, both when he first approached them and during the course of Inquisition. According to Leliana, he didn't just barge in and began bossing people around or telling them they're wrong, but described effects of the Breach in such detail that he convinced the spymaster that he indeed knows about the Fade more than anyone else present (plus, he saved Herald's life - and subsequently, the Anchor - with his healing magic and theorized that the mark might be something that will help close rifts).

 

We also can't forget that whether IQ chooses to listen to Solas advice depends on individual playthrough.  Because even after everything he's done - risking his life, leading them to Skyhold and offering counsel, knowledge and magical skills - the Inquisitor may still ridicule and ignore him.

 

It might be that the Dalish (or whoever else he approached and offered help or chose to work with) might have done that in the past as well, which is why he eventually grew to be so bitter about it and assumes hardly anyone would listen anyway.

[Illyria]

This looks really awesome i really like it in game Solas is so different but so hot 

Link for his outfit http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/675/?

Link for his face edit http://endless-lazin...ersion-played-a

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As for the eye-shadow i am using yellow on one of my Lavellans

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Oh and just in case u missed it i made a hairstyle still a work in progress i have yet to find a way to manipulate he hair the way i want (have to do some research i barely opened 3ds max a few days back ).

Download here http://www.mediafire...3312o/WildH.rar

Looks like this 

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Still a few hair strands i have to fix cuz they overlap each other but till i find a solution on how to make them better this will have to do for now:P

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To me that just doesn't look like Solas.  Where's the snuggly jumper and ginger eyebrows?  Why does he have caterpillers on his face?

 

Your Lavellan looks amazing and the eyeshadow suits her, but you've got fantastic lighting and maybe done some editing?  (the screenshots look fantastic, anyway).  Leliana... does not look good.  She looks like she grabbed the wrong eyeshadow and everyone is too scared of her to point out her mistake.

 

Your hair WIP looks great!

[Nightspirit]

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Now it's crunch time and the GW's are working backwards by trying to kill the Old Gods before they're corrupt, have shown themselves vulnerable to manipulation and outright domination by certain types of darkspawn due to the taint, and now are apparently plagued by infighting. I wouldn't want to work with them either, and I've banished them in all of my playthroughs. They're just too unstable and keeping them in the Inquisition leaves it open to Corypheus popping into one of their bodies any time he likes.

 

Wouldn't it be more dangerous if Corypheus popped into a GW when they're banished and far away? It seems to me this would allow him to do much more damage, because there's nobody around to stop him from scheming.

 

Interesting theories though.

I've been wondering about Tyrdda Bright-Axe lately and I'm 99% sure that Thelm is Dirthamen.

The messages Tyrdda and the magisters received were quite similar so maybe they were given by the same beings.

Maybe the elven gods wanted somebody to breach the Black City physically so the taint would be released. That would create darkspawn who would dig up the Old God dragons which would subsequently free something (the elven gods themselves?) from the fade.

Then again, they had no way of knowing someone would be able to destroy the Archdemons. Hmm.. Need more lore.