Wouldn't it be more dangerous if Corypheus popped into a GW when they're banished and far away? It seems to me this would allow him to do much more damage, because there's nobody around to stop him from scheming.
Well, maybe there's a reason to keep them away - physically - from Orlais/Ferelden, if their plan is to kill sleeping Old Gods? It does seem, after all, that one of them is buried underneath Western Approach. They were digging to reach it already.
Wouldn't it be more dangerous if Corypheus popped into a GW when they're banished and far away? It seems to me this would allow him to do much more damage, because there's nobody around to stop him from scheming.
Interesting theories though.
I've been wondering about Tyrdda Bright-Axe lately and I'm 99% sure that Thelm is Dirthamen.
The messages Tyrdda and the magisters received were quite similar so maybe they were given by the same beings.
Maybe the elven gods wanted somebody to breach the Black City physically so the taint would be released. That would create darkspawn who would dig up the Old God dragons which would subsequently free something (the elven gods themselves?) from the fade.
Then again, they had no way of knowing someone would be able to destroy the Archdemons. Hmm.. Need more lore.
Wasn't Corypheus was doing that already either way? At least if they were banished, it took away a more conveniently placed resource from him - I mean his plans all centered around Orlais and Ferelden geographically, so getting the GW's out of that particular area seems logical to me, even if it's in a punishing manner. Also, there's no reason you can't ask them to come back after Cory is dealt with, if either party is so inclined to try to work together again. That was my thinking.
Banishing them from one area is not eliminating them completely from the world (well, unless that's what happens in Weisshaupt).
I am totally on the theory train that the Elven Gods instigated the magisters coming to the Black City, thus creating the darkspawn to dig out the OG dragons that are part of what is maintaining their prison - it's one of my favorites out there that I've read.
I am totally on the theory train that the Elven Gods instigated the magisters coming to the Black City, thus creating the darkspawn to dig out the OG dragons that are part of what is maintaining their prison - it's one of my favorites out there that I've read.
Still not sure those are Elvhen gods that instigated magisters to invade the Golden City, but something definitely did. And OG being something that maintains some sort of prison or something... it's possible, especially in light of something we find out in WoT2, where apocalyptic vision Drakon had (if I remember correctly) mentions that there are apparently seven gates that guard whatever it is that is in Golden/Black City. Seven Gates = seven OG.
... Uh, I don't have my copy next to me and I have to dig up some older posts from older thread, but I'll find it later, pwomise.
This looks really awesome i really like it in game Solas is so different but so hot
Link for his outfit http://www.nexusmods...tion/mods/675/?
Link for his face edit http://endless-lazin...ersion-played-a
SpoilerAs for the eye-shadow i am using yellow on one of my Lavellans
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Oh and just in case u missed it i made a hairstyle still a work in progress i have yet to find a way to manipulate he hair the way i want (have to do some research i barely opened 3ds max a few days back ).
Download here http://www.mediafire...3312o/WildH.rar
Looks like this
SpoilerStill a few hair strands i have to fix cuz they overlap each other but till i find a solution on how to make them better this will have to do for now:P
Oh i forgot..replaces this
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I love your hair WIP. I can't wait until I get a new computer so I can try out all these PJs and Hair mods. 
Edit: Your Lavellan is gorgeous. She looks good with yellow eye shadow.
Er, wait.... we don't know if he just approaches random Dalish as well, do we? We definitely don't hear him preaching at the friendly Dalish clan on Exalted Plains, and he only reveals his opinion about Dalish culture to Lavellan when he/she directly asks him about it.
Therefore assuming that he just walks from clan to clan and tries to spread his message like some sort of Jehova's Witness is kinda unfounded. We simply don't know the circumstances in which he was asked things about, or shared his opinion.
In fact, the one thing we seem to know is that some Dalish still worship and sometimes ask Fen'Harel for answers - and (apparently) sometimes he responds
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It might be therefore that sometimes some elves feel that a particular god has answers they're seeking (even if he's generally viewed as an antagonistic force in their myths), yet - even if the help and answers were sincere, but those were not what the Dalish wanted to hear - they might have ignored him or his warnings.
Or it may be that he guises himself as a spirit, when they chose to visit the Fade/Beyond in search of answers*, yet because of their preconceptions of the Fade, they dont'listen to him.
*(btw, a lot of people seem to think that the whole "Ameridan defeats the wolf" story in JoH is Fen'Harel-related, but I think it's nothing more than a blatant red herring. What's FAR MORE interesting than that story is the memory of Ameridan we find nearby, when he mentions his SPIRIT COMPANION giving him advice how to stop Hakkon).
That's assuming that he approached them, physically and with nothing but his words. I think however that Solas is simply smarter than that. I'd be surprised if he didn't try to prove himself and his knowledge, just like he proves to Cassandra/Leliana/rest that he indeed knows a ton about the Fade, both when he first approached them and during the course of Inquisition. According to Leliana, he didn't just barge in and began bossing people around or telling them they're wrong, but described effects of the Breach in such detail that he convinced the spymaster that he indeed knows about the Fade more than anyone else present (plus, he saved Herald's life - and subsequently, the Anchor - with his healing magic and theorized that the mark might be something that will help close rifts).
We also can't forget that whether IQ chooses to listen to Solas advice depends on individual playthrough. Because even after everything he's done - risking his life, leading them to Skyhold and offering counsel, knowledge and magical skills - the Inquisitor may still ridicule and ignore him.
It might be that the Dalish (or whoever else he approached and offered help or chose to work with) might have done that in the past as well, which is why he eventually grew to be so bitter about it and assumes hardly anyone would listen anyway.
Ugh, I typed out half a page and then threw up my hands and deleted it all. I imagine we could debate this until the cows come home, but as it stands, we have no idea how he met the Dalish or how he approached them. Whether he was a patient mentor figure as he often is with the Inquisitor or if he was more inclined to bristling indignation, such as with Dorian, it's all speculation. I still know that I'm more inclined to think that it was a heavy mixture of his own faults and those of the Dalish that led to the animosity between them.
We also don't know that he has any power to hear the prayers of Dalish or answer any thoughts sent to him. They could simply attribute their own decisions to being favoured, or not, by a particular deity depending on how it works out. You know like "Oh, I prayed to Mythal that my pregnancy would go without a hitch and she answered my prayers" type thing. It depends on how much of a "God" you think the Elvhen Gods actually were, but again, it's all speculation so far.
However he approached them, whatever was said, I can't find myself angry at the Dalish for not believing him. Attacking him, yes, if what he says is true. But for not choosing to throw away parts of your hard fought for and dying culture on the word of another, whether it's wandering apostate or helpful Fade spirit, seems reasonable and frankly sensible to me. If I were Dalish, I think the only thing that would sway me would be the kind of reveal that came at the Temple of Mythal, complete with Ancient Elves, magical pools and then the catch up with Flemeth later, before I thought to seriously start shifting and changing my beliefs. It's that kind of physical proof, one that can be actively questioned, cross examined and debated, that is more likely to sway minds than any knowledge professed by a single being. I get the feeling that whatever it was that Solas showed the Dalish in question, I doubt it would have been quite so compelling as the Inquisitor encountered.
Anyway, I'm off to bed. I had meant to do some fanfiction but then got caught up in Solas musing. That's what I get for coming onto the forums though, lol. I just can't help getting caught up and then losing my time in speculation and debate,
So, my human warrior is supposed to be romancing Cullen, but I keep finding her sighing wistfully and making goo-goo eyes at Solas, in the futile hope that maybe he'll notice her... at least when she's not simultaneously flirting with Cassandra... and Josie... and Harding...
Oh Evelyn, someone needs to sit you down in a workplace sexual harassment seminar.
Still not sure those are Elvhen gods that instigated magisters to invade the Golden City, but something definitely did. And OG being something that maintains some sort of prison or something... it's possible, especially in light of something we find out in WoT2, where apocalyptic vision Drakon had (if I remember correctly) mentions that there are apparently seven gates that guard whatever it is that is in Golden/Black City. Seven Gates = seven OG.
... Uh, I don't have my copy next to me and I have to dig up some older posts from older thread, but I'll find it later, pwomise.
Have you heard the greater horcrux theory? That each of the Old God dragons has within them a piece of each of the Creators' spirits (or a tiny wisp like Mythal's) - similar to how Corypheus had his inside the red lyrium dragon so he could regenerate. In this case it keeps them from escaping, but eventually they were able to reach the Fade through the OG's dreams and cause trouble.
So if true, the Creators were able to whisper to the magisters through their connection to that piece or wisp within the Old God, giving specific instructions on breaching the Black City and releasing the taint which would create darkspawn to dig out the OG's and ultimately destroy the Creator's prison. Complicated yes, but interesting. I think I first saw it on reddit ages ago.
This method could have backfired on the Elven Gods however, if perhaps it is possible that when the wisp is destroyed it feeds back on the Creator in the prison, and kills them. I think it's possible too Solas might have wanted to try to cure them if they were tainted, since it seems he didn't originally try to kill them outright (if he and his posse had been capable of it even), so he'd be upset again, if the GW's were killing them.
Sigh, there's just so much we don't know for sure.
Still not sure those are Elvhen gods that instigated magisters to invade the Golden City, but something definitely did. And OG being something that maintains some sort of prison or something... it's possible, especially in light of something we find out in WoT2, where apocalyptic vision Drakon had (if I remember correctly) mentions that there are apparently seven gates that guard whatever it is that is in Golden/Black City. Seven Gates = seven OG.
... Uh, I don't have my copy next to me and I have to dig up some older posts from older thread, but I'll find it later, pwomise.
OK, here's the damn thing - it's Canticle of Exaltations: Prophecy: https://books.google... return&f=false
And here's the text rewritten on forum:
So, my human warrior is supposed to be romancing Cullen, but I keep finding her sighing wistfully and making goo-goo eyes at Solas, in the futile hope that maybe he'll notice her... at least when she's not simultaneously flirting with Cassandra... and Josie... and Harding...
Oh Evelyn, someone needs to sit you down a workplace sexual harassment seminar.
Okay, so I'm putting off going to bed. (One last post, honest) I still would have liked the option to flirt with Solas as the other races. It annoys me that Bioware kinda forces the other races to not be interested in him or at least flirt with him. I can express interest in Cullen as a Dwarf, Cassandra as a woman or Sera as a man, and get knocked back. With Solas though, you're not even given the option, as if they're saying no-one but another elf female could fancy him. It's a shame that this was either missed or purposely left out. Mainly because I'd be curious as to his reaction if another race or gender showed interest in him and also that it takes a little of my roleplaying enjoyment away. So instead, I just headcanon it with lots of fanfic ideas that never get written down. ^.^
OK, here's the damn thing - it's Canticle of Exaltations: Prophecy: https://books.google... return&f=false
And here's the text rewritten on forum:
SpoilerThe portion I was referring to is at the very end. How believable the whole Drakon's Prophecy is is hard to tell, though WoT 2 does mention that that type of prophetic verses have been extremely popular AND that it's believed that Drakon rewritten the thing several times, before allowing Justinia I to include it in the Chant. It all might as well be Drakon's imagination, though some meatier parts of teh entire prophecy are likely worth examining the text itself.
All in all, what little we have does seem to point to the Darkness as being an entity distinct from the Old Gods/Archdemons. The prophecy as a whole is still kind of problematic for me, though- can Mythal be both the Lady of Sorrow and Razikale? And if so, then what does that mean for the seven gates of the City?
Okay, so I'm putting off going to bed. (One last post, honest) I still would have liked the option to flirt with Solas as the other races. It annoys me that Bioware kinda forces the other races to not be interested in him or at least flirt with him. I can express interest in Cullen as a Dwarf, Cassandra as a woman or Sera as a man, and get knocked back. With Solas though, you're not even given the option, as if they're saying no-one but another elf female could fancy him. It's a shame that this was either missed or purposely left out. Mainly because I'd be curious as to his reaction if another race or gender showed interest in him and also that it takes a little of my roleplaying enjoyment away. So instead, I just headcanon it with lots of fanfic ideas that never get written down. ^.^
Yeah, even if Solas is only into elven woman, I still imagine that he'd have given an extremely polite and tactful rejection to let the other genders and races down gently, compared to the rather curt or awkward rejections we've had before. I'd imagine something along the lines of;
"I'm sorry... such a involvement would be lead to complications neither of us could afford, I hope you understand"
It's simple, succinct and wouldn't give any potential unfortunate implications.
OK, here's the damn thing - it's Canticle of Exaltations: Prophecy: https://books.google... return&f=false
And here's the text rewritten on forum:
SpoilerThe portion I was referring to is at the very end. How believable the whole Drakon's Prophecy is is hard to tell, though WoT 2 does mention that that type of prophetic verses have been extremely popular AND that it's believed that Drakon rewritten the thing several times, before allowing Justinia I to include it in the Chant. It all might as well be Drakon's imagination, though some meatier parts of teh entire prophecy are likely worth examining the text itself.
Yeah, I've posted about that segment in the past, and I agree that the seven gates are probably the eluvians that the seven Elven Gods are trapped behind, and this verse is a portent of their release and the destruction of the Veil.
Actually, if you break down each stanza of the CoE, it gives some great hints on what's to come in the DLC and the next game - the Titans, the Qunari invasion, Minathrous burning, etc.
Here is another panel of my Zev-annoying-Solas comic! My first time drawing Sera and I think I got her down 
The other panels are almost done then comes... the coloring whee! But if someone wants to color this, go ahead! 
Here is another panel of my Zev-annoying-Solas comic! My first time drawing Sera and I think I got her down
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The other panels are almost done then comes... the coloring whee! But if someone wants to color this, go ahead!
I can imagine Zev and Sera would get on like a house on fire (or caused it, knowing them), especially when it comes to annoying Solas.
Can't wait to see the rest of this comic!
I think it's time to bring out the WHAT UP NERDS, UR ALL WRONG picture again.
A classic.
http://gamordan-stor...is-amazing-post
"Course we're not! You're walking around in your underwear, you're clearly a lunatic!"
(Seriously, he's not wearing any armour in that picture, so he's technically nekkid)
Ugh, I typed out half a page and then threw up my hands and deleted it all. I imagine we could debate this until the cows come home, but as it stands, we have no idea how he met the Dalish or how he approached them. Whether he was a patient mentor figure as he often is with the Inquisitor or if he was more inclined to bristling indignation, such as with Dorian, it's all speculation. I still know that I'm more inclined to think that it was a heavy mixture of his own faults and those of the Dalish that led to the animosity between them.
My suggestions at possible scenarios weren't supposed to imply that I firmly believe it's what actually happened. Like you said - it's all speculation, and we can't really be certain he did it the way or you or I describe it. Could be a mix of both as well, or something else altogether. It might as well be that he mainly observed - just like he observes Inquisition - and came to conclusion that he'd be unable to reach more than a few.
I just find him traveling between Dalish clans and angrily or authoritatively trying to correct them, with no regard to how precious they think their customs and culture is in a world set against elves, as somewhat unlikely, given what we know about the character.
We also don't know that he has any power to hear the prayers of Dalish or answer any thoughts sent to him. They could simply attribute their own decisions to being favoured, or not, by a particular deity depending on how it works out. You know like "Oh, I prayed to Mythal that my pregnancy would go without a hitch and she answered my prayers" type thing. It depends on how much of a "God" you think the Elvhen Gods actually were, but again, it's all speculation so far.
Um, but we're not talking whether Dalish believe that they summoned him and just attribute stuff to him or other gods - we hear the perspective of a guy who likely is/was a god-like figure to whom people prayed to, at least at some point, and some keep praying still. We also know that altars to elvhen gods exist and that elvhen gods do indeed answer summons, if proper rites are done (like Mythal, who appears after Morrigan/IQ summon her in a world-state with no OGB). The possibility of a scenario where Fen'Harel answers prayers, but people still refuse to hear what he has to say to them (oy, what if the whole "Fen'Harel is bad!" thing that exists in lore and elven culture was part of a smear-campaign to dissuade remaining elves from listening to him?) is not a too far-fetched speculation, IMO.
However he approached them, whatever was said, I can't find myself angry at the Dalish for not believing him. Attacking him, yes, if what he says is true. But for not choosing to throw away parts of your hard fought for and dying culture on the word of another, whether it's wandering apostate or helpful Fade spirit, seems reasonable and frankly sensible to me.
That's assuming that he asked for them to just throw away parts of culture in the first place - but we don't know that. He doesn't even ask to throw away that part of Dalish culture from a woman he cares about, he merely offers a possibility to do so - therefore I don't think he'd just demand it from someone who understands and saw less than she did.
It also may be that his requests, warnings or teachings might have been a lot simpler, like "be kind to spirits", "don't fear the Beyond" or "don't go there, for this part of land is cursed" or "consider that the elven history might be a bit more complex than you understand" and yet not many have listened.
That's a possibility too, especially in light of his words about not expecting much from the Dalish in the first place, likely because - like city elves - he sees no possibility to truly help them.
Another page!
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over so soon...
So many feels as always. 
;3;
I... I draw another one. OK?!
It's going to have a bad ending, isn't it.
New screenshots from captaincaranis.
Also, art break.
Sexy Solavellan artwork by deedylovescake. (NSFW)
Lavellan seems to be a bit upset or something but Solas is there to cheer her up.
Happy Solas and Lavellan.
Keeping Secrets fanart: Solas comforting a crying Emma.
Another Keeping Secrets fanart: Solas taking care of an injured Emma.
Adorable smiling Solas.
Sad-ish Solas.
Lovely Solas portrait.
Concept!Solas.
Parody of "that scene" from Jurassic World. 
(Solas, Vivienne, Dorian, and Sera.)
I interrupt this lovely conversation for a brief butt grab. In other words: Next page is done! Read it all -> here <-
Preview:
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....now on to your regularly scheduled programming. (I fell behind in reading posts and need to catch up!)
Dat butt grab.
But aside from that, aaah.... the feels. 
Great work as always!
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