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[Illyria]

And now let's relive the magical Hawke X Nightmare times, here.

 

NSFW, I guess.

 

I hadn't seen the second part of that before.

 

OTP.

[The Oracle]

And now let's relive the magical Hawke X Nightmare times, here.

 

NSFW, I guess.

 

To quote Dorian, "I think I might vomit."

 

That was beautiful and horrendous in equal measure. Vhenan trash really does push the boundaries of art and good taste.

[BoscoBread]

I hadn't seen the second part of that before.

 

OTP.

 

To quote Dorian, "I think I might vomit."

 

That was beautiful and horrendous in equal measure. Vhenan trash really does push the boundaries of art and good taste.

[Lunapur]

Hey guys GirlTriesGames has posted another theory on her channel regarding dwarfs,lyrium and titans :)Thought will be interesting to see and i love all of them:)

[Caddius]

See, I think (and I'm going to dump a whole lot of personal theories in here, btw, grain of salt etc etc) Solas has seen Blight magic at work, as suggested by Andruil's codex entries and his discussions with Vivienne about Corypheus.

 

He acknowledges the Blight/the taint as magic first of all, as something he's seen used in the past, which could not be controlled ("Corypheus drinks from three cups ...and one of them is poison." "The blight corrupts everything it touches. Those who believe themselves capable of using it safely are mad."). Likely, abuse of Blight magic had a great deal to do with him having to seal away the various members of his people's pantheons. Perhaps he was looking at the destruction of the entire world and had to put together a plan very quickly. He clearly did not consider the long-term repercussions to the elves, other than believing that they would survive in some recognizable form as he took to Uthenera.

 

I don't believe the darkspawn were around then (in their current incarnation, anyway), however, when he locked the Creators/Forgotten ones away - in fact I believe the whole reason the magisters were tainted and spread the taint to the rest of Thedas is that the Black City in the Fade that they visited, is Arlathan. Perhaps, the last time Solas used his orb in any major way, it was to send Blighted Arlathan and all of the Blighted gods there with it into the Fade, behind the Veil, which was strengthened to the point it cut off the elves from their connection to the Fade, but kept the taint contained there.

 

And his plan worked for possibly 2500 years (if you believe the Creators were sealed away and the Veil created around 4750 FA - though it came at the cost of elven immortality, the humans later conquering his people, and then some idiot magisters letting the taint out anyway in 7205 FA.

 

Now about the Old Gods. What are they doing? Sleeping. Dreaming in magical prisons built cooperatively by elves, humans and dwarves. It is possible that they are being forced to maintain something important in the Fade, possibly against their will, that is powered by their dreams (like say a prison for the Creators?). The fewer Old Gods there are, the weaker this construct may get. And now that the darkspawn are a thing, unless the taint is cured, it seems inevitable that they will finish the job of corrupting the last two Old Gods, forcing the GW's to kill them as Archdemons and then after that possibly, ugh, eternal Blight.

 

I think Solas is desperate to find a solution for the taint.

 

He has to know more than he's saying - he couldn't come clean to the Inquisition about it because the Breach was the more immediate danger to the world. To reveal himself or his connection to the orb would have been a distraction, as well as have probably cost him his life and his ultimate mission - which I believe is eliminating or finding a cure for the taint. I don't think Flemeth/Mythal would have given up her power to him for anything less. She was able to mitigate it for a time perhaps helping create and guide the Grey Wardens, but it was never a permanent solution. She, at the very least, saw the writing on the wall and has put one of her cards in Solas' hand on purpose (and she put a wisp of herself in the mirror, so she can live on to see the results/live on with Morrigan), because she believes or knows he has some power to effect lasting change, even if the means are not savory (ie, will cost thousands of lives and untold destruction).

 

If he is frustrated and angry with the Grey Wardens it's likely a combination of the fact that they're not only using Blight magic and killing the Archdemons which could be weakening the process he has in place to keep the Blighted pantheon imprisoned (who probably also want to kill him tainted or not, and will make everything worse if they get free), but also that the GW whose sole purpose is to combat tainted things, have shown no progress in solving the Blight problem in the 1200 years it has been further wrecking Thedas.

 

All they have done, is what Solas and whoever helped him in ancient times possibly managed to do: buy some time.

 

Now it's crunch time and the GW's are working backwards by trying to kill the Old Gods before they're corrupt, have shown themselves vulnerable to manipulation and outright domination by certain types of darkspawn due to the taint, and now are apparently plagued by infighting. I wouldn't want to work with them either, and I've banished them in all of my playthroughs. They're just too unstable and keeping them in the Inquisition leaves it open to Corypheus popping into one of their bodies any time he likes.

I see that we are cut from the same tin foil.  

[BreBoo]

Ok so this is completely off topic, but I need some opinions. I'm going for a more end of romance picture. I just can't seem to get it right. My hubby likes the last one, but I don't know. I think it needs to be a little softer if that makes sense...maybe I need to get a different screenshot of Solas and Lavallen? Opinions please?!

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Edit: Ok so this is my last attempt at making this image work. I think I'm chalking it up to epic failure, but I do love the idea though. Maybe one of the artsier people on the thread would like to do it for me since I suck and can't draw (hence the crappy attempted photoshopped version) lmao. >.<

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[DarthEmpress]

Well, the deed is done...  I will forever be crying that we couldn't have an all-Elfy party.  Zev bby you would annoy Solas bby so bad *sobs*

 

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[ChuChu]

 

 

And now let's relive the magical Hawke X Nightmare times, here.

 

NSFW, I guess.

So then this sort of behaviour is normal for the Nightmare, eh? Thing just wants to feel.

[Janic99]

Well, the deed is done...  I will forever be crying that we couldn't have an all-Elfy party.  Zev bby you would annoy Solas bby so bad *sobs*

 

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This was perfect lol

[Brass_Buckles]

I think, for me at least, this makes the romance way more epic. Cullen is the guy you marry and settle down with, and Solas is the guy you have this brief passionate affair that makes you think your soul is being ripped in half when he leaves. I like that there's always a tension there that they don't always act upon.

 

 

Saw this way back where I was before (I'm just going to stop trying to catch up--I don't have time to read 10-20 pages every time I visit the forums)...

 

I respect that for you Solas is a passionate affair.  But I interpreted it as something far deeper than that, for both the Inquisitor and Solas.  After all, Weekes did say that Solas was on the verge of dropping everything he stood for, and everything he planned to do, for the sake of his love for the Inquisitor.  He's been a very long time alone--we don't know for how long, but it would almost have to be at least 1,000 years--as long as he's been asleep.  It seems to me, from his nickname "He Who Hunts Alone," he's been alone for longer than that.  Probably since whoever it was betrayed him.  So he wasn't expecting to fall in love, even though he starts out flirting a bit with the Inquisitor.  He knew it was a bad idea, but he was lonely and she was interested.  And now they're both hurt because he went for it despite how bad of an idea he knew it was (because he didn't want to hurt her).

 

To me, at least, it's not an affair, not a fling, not something that Solas intended to start and then let go of.  I believe, even knowing it was going to end badly, once he was in, he was all in.  The question there of course is how, precisely, you think he believed it would end.  Remember if you will that he intended to get his orb back.  He thought that the Inquisitor would understand after that point.  The impression I have is that somehow, he would be revealed as the Dread Wolf, and she would probably have learned of his plans.  So he didn't set out with the intention of leaving her; he most likely believed that she would be frightened off, or would hate him in the near future.  That's probably the very fear that kept him from telling her the truth instead of breaking it off.  And the main thing that tore him away from her was a sense of duty--if he couldn't complete that, he wasn't being true to himself.  If he stayed but didn't ever tell her the truth, he'd be living a lie--and I think it's been shown that he actually detests lies and prefers to be honest when he can, even though he is able to be deceitful.

 

My point being:  just because Solas is passionate, doesn't mean he ever intended the romance to be meaningless, or some painful fling to be remembered with longing thoughts of what might-have-been.  He's passionate because, as he informs the Inquisitor, "It has been a long time."  A thousand years alone would likely make anyone pretty excited that someone took an interest, especially someone in whom they were also interested.  And he ultimately can't stay, because, as he tells the Inquisitor, "There are... considerations."  Though I do wonder if he might have stuck around if he had acquired the orb undamaged.  Probably not, but he might have been more likely to return.  As it stands, what he did afterward has probably caused him even more pain.

[CapricornSun]

Well, the deed is done...  I will forever be crying that we couldn't have an all-Elfy party.  Zev bby you would annoy Solas bby so bad *sobs*

 

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This is awesome! I do hope we could see Zev again someday. 

[CapricornSun]

Art break.

 

I remember the wolf.

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Source: http://sparrowshellc...d-a-cut-perhaps

 

 

Ir abelas, ma vhenan.

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Source: http://sarah-blah.tu...belas-ma-vhenan

 

 

I feel our bodies grow; and our souls, they blend.

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Source: http://veilborn.tumb...ouls-they-blend

 

 

Looking into each other's eyes.

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Source: http://little-insani...rew-some-babies

 

 

Some NSFW links.

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* NSFW Solavellan by osatokun.

* NSFW Keeping Secrets art of Solas and Emma on a large bed in Val Royeaux.

* Another NSFW Keeping Secrets artwork: Bath time with Emma.

 

Adorable-looking Solas.

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Source: http://kaydreamer.tu...st/125679599203

 

 

Solas sitting cross-legged. (Slightly NSFW for nudity)

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Source: http://schrodanger.t...ses-and-anatomy

 

 

Fen'Harel.

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Source: http://mistysinkat.t...y-muahahaha-his

 

[midnight tea]

Saw this way back where I was before (I'm just going to stop trying to catch up--I don't have time to read 10-20 pages every time I visit the forums)...

 

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I respect that for you Solas is a passionate affair.  But I interpreted it as something far deeper than that, for both the Inquisitor and Solas.  After all, Weekes did say that Solas was on the verge of dropping everything he stood for, and everything he planned to do, for the sake of his love for the Inquisitor.  He's been a very long time alone--we don't know for how long, but it would almost have to be at least 1,000 years--as long as he's been asleep.  It seems to me, from his nickname "He Who Hunts Alone," he's been alone for longer than that.  Probably since whoever it was betrayed him.  So he wasn't expecting to fall in love, even though he starts out flirting a bit with the Inquisitor.  He knew it was a bad idea, but he was lonely and she was interested.  And now they're both hurt because he went for it despite how bad of an idea he knew it was (because he didn't want to hurt her).

 

To me, at least, it's not an affair, not a fling, not something that Solas intended to start and then let go of.  I believe, even knowing it was going to end badly, once he was in, he was all in.  The question there of course is how, precisely, you think he believed it would end.  Remember if you will that he intended to get his orb back.  He thought that the Inquisitor would understand after that point.  The impression I have is that somehow, he would be revealed as the Dread Wolf, and she would probably have learned of his plans.  So he didn't set out with the intention of leaving her; he most likely believed that she would be frightened off, or would hate him in the near future.  That's probably the very fear that kept him from telling her the truth instead of breaking it off.  And the main thing that tore him away from her was a sense of duty--if he couldn't complete that, he wasn't being true to himself.  If he stayed but didn't ever tell her the truth, he'd be living a lie--and I think it's been shown that he actually detests lies and prefers to be honest when he can, even though he is able to be deceitful.

 

My point being:  just because Solas is passionate, doesn't mean he ever intended the romance to be meaningless, or some painful fling to be remembered with longing thoughts of what might-have-been.  He's passionate because, as he informs the Inquisitor, "It has been a long time."  A thousand years alone would likely make anyone pretty excited that someone took an interest, especially someone in whom they were also interested.  And he ultimately can't stay, because, as he tells the Inquisitor, "There are... considerations."  Though I do wonder if he might have stuck around if he had acquired the orb undamaged.  Probably not, but he might have been more likely to return.  As it stands, what he did afterward has probably caused him even more pain.

 

 

I agree that the whole affair didn't end as 'just a fling' - he indeed seems like he wanted to seriously commit himself to the relationship. But as for how it started... Well, there's this dialogue taken from banter if the player romanced Blackwall:
 

Solas: So, you and the Inquisitor are together.

Blackwall: Yes. Is that a problem?

Solas: Far from it. People should seize any chance for a moment's respite in times such as these. I am glad you've allowed yourself some happiness.

Blackwall: I expected you to think that I should keep punishing myself.

Solas: I would be concerned if you forgot your past, but that seems unlikely. Beyond that, guilt is a distraction. One we can ill afford.

Blackwall: What of you, then? Have you found someone to share a moment's respite?

Solas: I find my peace elsewhere.

 

 

Seems to me that the whole thing began as 'not very serious' indeed - I wouldn't be surprised if both of them thought that way, initially. I'm pretty sure Solas thought he could end it whenever he wanted, or that she'd eventually get irritated or bored with his 'Mr. Mysterious' schtick. But - surprise! - she didn't, and then they both found themselves in over their heads 

[Brass_Buckles]

 

I agree that the whole affair didn't end as 'just a fling' - he indeed seems like he wanted to seriously commit himself to the relationship. But as for how it started... Well, there's this dialogue taken from banter if the player romanced Blackwall:
 

Solas: So, you and the Inquisitor are together.

Blackwall: Yes. Is that a problem?

Solas: Far from it. People should seize any chance for a moment's respite in times such as these. I am glad you've allowed yourself some happiness.

Blackwall: I expected you to think that I should keep punishing myself.

Solas: I would be concerned if you forgot your past, but that seems unlikely. Beyond that, guilt is a distraction. One we can ill afford.

Blackwall: What of you, then? Have you found someone to share a moment's respite?

Solas: I find my peace elsewhere.

 

 

Seems to me that the whole thing began as 'not very serious' indeed - I wouldn't be surprised if both of them thought that way, initially. I'm pretty sure Solas thought he could end it whenever he wanted, or that she'd eventually get irritated or bored with his 'Mr. Mysterious' schtick. But - surprise! - she didn't, and then they both found themselves in over their heads 

 

 

Just because he feels that other people should take what they can while they can, doesn't mean he didn't take it seriously from the start.  Notice that initially he attempts to avoid getting into a relationship at all--and I think it's not because he doesn't want to take what happiness he can, but because he knows he's getting way too serious about it way too fast.  He himself says in the Fade that Lavellan changes everything.  At that point it's pretty heavy stuff, and nothing to do with just taking a moment's happiness.  And that's when the actual relationship begins, too...

[laurelinvanyar]

Headcanons be headcanons? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[drosophila]

Saw this way back where I was before (I'm just going to stop trying to catch up--I don't have time to read 10-20 pages every time I visit the forums)...

 

 

 

I agree that the whole affair didn't end as 'just a fling' - he indeed seems like he wanted to seriously commit himself to the relationship. But as for how it started... Well, there's this dialogue taken from banter if the player romanced Blackwall:
 

 

This pertains to both comments. Might just be me, but I would never question somebody else's headcanon. Lore and theories, sure, I love to discuss those, and it's not personal, even if I've been proven wrong. But whatever story I wrote in my head, it came from me. It takes a measure of vulnerability and bravery to share it with others. So when people post what they imagine the relationship to be like, or any other piece of headcanon really, even the small stuff, I just read, enjoy, and I'm often surprised at how different it can be from mine. But it's still right, it's your DA universe. 

 

Just my two cents...

[Brass_Buckles]

This pertains to both comments. Might just be me, but I would never question somebody else's headcanon. Lore and theories, sure, I love to discuss those, and it's not personal, even if I've been proven wrong. But whatever story I wrote in my head, it came from me. It takes a measure of vulnerability and bravery to share it with others. So when people post what they imagine the relationship to be like, or any other piece of headcanon really, even the small stuff, I just read, enjoy, and I'm often surprised at how different it can be from mine. But it's still right, it your DA universe. 

 

Just my two cents...

 

I'm not telling someone else what to think.  I'm telling them that I disagree, and here are my reasons.  I'm not telling them "you're wrong."  We both have opinions, and both are equally valid.  If they can share theirs, then I am not out of line to share mine.

[drosophila]

I'm not telling someone else what to think.  I'm telling them that I disagree, and here are my reasons.  I'm not telling them "you're wrong."  We both have opinions, and both are equally valid.  If they can share theirs, then I am not out of line to share mine.

 

I never meant to imply you were telling them what to think or that you were out of line, and I apologize if it came across that way. 

[BoscoBread]

My take. SOLAS BE LIKE WITH LAVELLAN:

 

[Brass_Buckles]

I never meant to imply you were telling them what to think or that you were out of line, and I apologize if it came across that way. 

 

They said what they thought, I was simply responding with what I think.

 

I can totally see why someone would see it as something quick, and ultimately not very meaningful (or very meaningful but also very impermanent).  I mean he pretty obviously goes in knowing it's a bad idea.  So that opinion makes sense and is a totally realistic take on the situation.

 

To me though, I see more along the lines of "Solas wanted this to last but it absolutely couldn't."  And that also makes sense.

 

I suspect he's still kind of got feelings for whoever betrayed him, too...

 

Apparently if you romance Sera (which I have not done, but saw a video clip of this dialogue) you can ask Solas about a gift to give to her.  He will advise you to give her something "human and fleeting," which suggests to me that any gift Solas would consider worthwhile would be "elven and lasting."  Though my opinion on this may be totally wrong, I feel like that implies that when an ancient elf fell in love, it was going to be for a very long time.  To me that is why he chose to take away the vallaslin, even though he wanted to tell Lavellan the whole truth (which would also have been a gift that is both elven and lasting). 

 

The idea that maybe Solas, as an ancient elf, loves very strongly for a very long time also gives me the impression that Lavellan might be the only person he's considered pursuing romantically since he was betrayed, or lost his last lover.  That might have been more than 1,000 years ago (since that's how long he has been sleeping).  But, that is probably just me being a closet romantic.  For all I know, he's been bedding every other elven woman he meets for the past 10,000 years or something.

[Rabbitonfire]

I updated the Softer Solas mod to work with the latest patch. I forgot that I made this little mod:

 

http://www.nexusmods...isition/mods/93

 

the Secret solas mod is cool too. it's like the thickness of that Thranduil mod but straighter.

[Cee]

Solas' betrayal seems to have come from a friend or confidante rather than a romantic relationship, IMO. When he talks about betrayal, he does so in response to an Inquisitor telling him to rely upon friends. It may be related to the murder of Mythal and been a catalyst for the rest of the moves he made. It's mere speculation but it would be consistent with his character to feel that sort of pain that came from some he may have trusted being responsible for his close friend's murder and betrayal right from under him.

 

I wonder what the timeline is from the murder of Mythal to the gods having been locked away. Since a codex we have mentions Abelas taking his name and settling into service, there were still gods to serve at that point, as far as we can tell. Mythal's murder predating the other event and Abelas mentioning Fen'Harel had no part in it.

[Cee]

I updated the Softer Solas mod to work with the latest patch. I forgot that I made this little mod:

 

http://www.nexusmods...isition/mods/93

 

the Secret solas mod is cool too. it's like the thickness of that Thranduil mod but straighter.

 

 

 

Changes include removing most freckles on the cheeks

 

 

Why would anyone do that?

 

 

[Rabbitonfire]

Why would anyone do that?

Like every art depiction of solas except my medium of choice was texture. 

[Kaydreamer]

This pertains to both comments. Might just be me, but I would never question somebody else's headcanon. Lore and theories, sure, I love to discuss those, and it's not personal, even if I've been proven wrong. But whatever story I wrote in my head, it came from me. It takes a measure of vulnerability and bravery to share it with others. So when people post what they imagine the relationship to be like, or any other piece of headcanon really, even the small stuff, I just read, enjoy, and I'm often surprised at how different it can be from mine. But it's still right, it's your DA universe. 

 

Just my two cents...

 

I love sharing and debating headcanons. One amazing thing I find about debating me personal theories and the reasons why I hold those theories is that when someone comes and pokes holes in them, it forces me to think deeper about how I've put them together. It makes me consider options I'd never had to consider before, throwing some away and allowing me to reinforce others by thinking about them from a different perspective.

 

One of the many things I love about this thread is how willing people are to debate their personal headcanons without attacking each other over them. It's such a great environment for encouraging deeper thought and interpretation of everything the game gives us.

 

At the end of the day, I think everyone here realises that headcanons are just that -- headcanons. One persons interpretation of the world and it's history and characters is equally as valid as the next persons.

 

 

Art break.

 

I remember the wolf.

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Source: http://sparrowshellc...d-a-cut-perhaps

 

 

Ir abelas, ma vhenan.

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Source: http://sarah-blah.tu...belas-ma-vhenan

 

 

I feel our bodies grow; and our souls, they blend.

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Source: http://veilborn.tumb...ouls-they-blend

 

 

Looking into each other's eyes.

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Source: http://little-insani...rew-some-babies

 

 

Some NSFW links.

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* NSFW Solavellan by osatokun.

* NSFW Keeping Secrets art of Solas and Emma on a large bed in Val Royeaux.

* Another NSFW Keeping Secrets artwork: Bath time with Emma.

 

Adorable-looking Solas.

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Source: http://kaydreamer.tu...st/125679599203

 

 

Solas sitting cross-legged. (Slightly NSFW for nudity)

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Source: http://schrodanger.t...ses-and-anatomy

 

 

Fen'Harel.

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Source: http://mistysinkat.t...y-muahahaha-his

 

 

I recognise that slightly wonky looking green one.   Glad you think it's adorable though! And thanks for sourcing. If there's one thing I appreciate about this thread more than anything else, (and I appreciate a lot of things about this thread,) it's that everyone posting art always sources it. That's an absolute rarity, and it's so wonderful to see!