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[manabloom]

Manabloom is our official investigatory journalist on all Solas magic. WEEEE!

 

I'm not good on remembering which trees have what (mage is my least played class) but weren't there some trees in DA2 that incorporated a few elements? Was it Primal that had earth spells in it? Also, like I said, they could have possibly just given him one spell from a tree just to show it in the demo. I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of his own, however. Blue seems to be a theme with his magic (one action shot has a blue aura on his staff. The electricity/lightning is blue. His hand and wrists glow blue) But, it could be a crazy coincidence.

 

Heheh, YES. Mage is my class so I'm like MAGIC YAAAS. And in DA2 Elemental was fire & ice and Primal was lightning & earth. Not sure why they felt the need to break up the Primal tree from Origins, but they did, and that's what we got instead.

 

ALSO. I FOUND THE FRAMES. They're... interesting.

 

Spoiler

(it's bigger than that, the forums just shrunk it. clicking it opens actual size.)

 

I numbered them for reference.

The difference between #1 and #2 is literally one frame. In one frame, without him moving at all whatsoever, his health bar restored to full.

 

Between #2 and #3, he stood still doing nothing for a few frames, but then suddenly... something green? It definitely looks to be in his hand and in #3 it really looks to clearly be a bottle. In #4, I still definitely see a bottle shape, but blurred since the camera was moving away and I had to zoom in pretty close to get a look.

 

In #5 and #6, it... has lost its shape and is looking more like a ball... But I'm thinking that's because he consumed it and it it's going to turn into the overall green glow? There's no way to tell because he completely disappears from frame after #6.

 

All in all it's a little weird... Healing or potion, there was no animation whatsoever when his health bar filled up, but then a second or two later he does... something. I'm going to say potion, because in #3 and #4 it reaaaally looks like a bottle. Even somewhat in #5, albeit a floating one...

So yeah! Those are the frames. Definitely nothing definitive but I'm going to go with healing potion.
Hopefully that helds shed some light on some questions/speculations that were flying around. 

 

Also relevant to discussions that went on here, but something I don't feel the need to cap:
I noticed that the unique axe the Hand Of Korth dropped had a 5% chance to cause a bleeding effect. So when Solas's icon got all creepy, that's probably what happened.

 

edit: also noticing the red halo around his icon. it's not there in 1, one ring in 2, then several in 3-6? hrmm... showing health regen maybe? idrk...

[Red by Full Metal Jacket]

I think that simply not announcing the last two LIs would be ridiculous, if only because it ultimately gains them nothing (who is going to pre-order a $60/$70 game with a 50+ hour main campaign solely to unravel the mystery of which of the remaining companions is an LI?). Never mind the fact that those hoping to romance Cassandra, Cullen, Sera, or Dorian might be unexpectedly locked out because of race. This game is a not unsubstantial time commitment, and some people only get one real shot to play due to RL commitments- if they completely withhold information that impacts how some players create their characters, more than a few could end up not getting their ideal playthrough and for literally the dumbest of reasons.

 

You do realize it could be very possible there may be very spoiler-ish reasons behind not revealing the last two LIs, right?

[AresKeith]

You do realize it could be very possible there may be very spoiler-ish reasons behind not revealing the last two LIs, right?

 

I doubt that

[Felya87]

I'm totally uninterested to MP. I tryed ME3's MP, and I was bored in few minutes. I'd played just to have enough readiness for the "better" (AHAHAHAHAAH!!!!yeah, I was still full of hope) ending before EC.(not that that was better...).

 

What can I say, I'm not a competitive person. I don't like overly difficult games (I'm always on normal), and I enjoy play alone, so I don't have to listed to people complaining I'm not good enough. be those friends or unknow people. It simply annoy me.

 

I would probably not use any MP feature outside the Keep. 

[Red by Full Metal Jacket]

I doubt that

 

And why is that?

[MisterJB]

All I could think about as I watched Solas shove the Pc's hands towards the Rift was "Ugh, newbs."

 

I'm so sorry.

[scintilla]

 

And why is that?

 

Because David Gaider said there wasn't one.

 

http://dgaider.tumbl...last-two-lis-is

 

"No, there is nothing earth-shatteringly special about the two remaining love interests. Nor does knowing who they are count as a massive spoiler—outside of knowing who any of the romances are counting as a spoiler."

[RebbyWriter]

So...he was healed BEFORE he drank the potion? lol

 

 

I believe David Gaider answered a question about if there was a spoiler reason they were keeping the last LI's under wraps and he said there wasn't anything spoilery about either of them. I should look for the link somewhere. (think it was his tumblr) *edit* Ya beat me to it.

 

 

Oh, so he might have been suffering from bleeding, I take it. Poor Solas. Let me bandage you up.

Ooh! Maybe status effects change the profile, then? That would be interesting!

[Phate Phoenix]

You do realize it could be very possible there may be very spoiler-ish reasons behind not revealing the last two LIs, right?

 

I've wondered that, myself. Especially if Solas is an LI. He seems to be an important Follower, and his story arc seems rather bound-up in all this Fade business. That said, they could just say, "Solas is an LI" and go no further. It's not like the other LI announcements have come with heaps of personal information.  I mean, think of how little we know about Cullen, and how he joins the Inquisition, and yet we've known about his LI status for months.

 

I'm thinking it's purely marketing strategy. I mean, consider that marketing isn't for us, the forum-goers. It's for the other people out there, and few things attract more attention than, "Well, we could tell you, but....~~~"

 

Annoying for us, effective for the Marketers. I assume. 

[mindoirs]

 

 

 

Because David Gaider said there wasn't one.

 

http://dgaider.tumbl...last-two-lis-is

 

"No, there is nothing earth-shatteringly special about the two remaining love interests. Nor does knowing who they are count as a massive spoiler—outside of knowing who any of the romances are counting as a spoiler."

 

I was about to respond to that with this but ninja'd.

 

Also I agree, I feel like they're deliberately teasing. One of my friends saw this screencap and he pointed out the...erm. You know what area. I couldn't stop laughing.

[RynJ]

@manabloom

 

That's....interesting. So did they just insta-heal for the sake of the demo before Solas could heal himself? And yeah I can't tell whether or not that's a potion. It looks bottle-like at one point but it just appeared in his hand but I guess they've always done that. They haven't always been green, though. I have no clue 

[scintilla]

 

I think that simply not announcing the last two LIs would be ridiculous, if only because it ultimately gains them nothing (who is going to pre-order a $60/$70 game with a 50+ hour main campaign solely to unravel the mystery of which of the remaining companions is an LI?). Never mind the fact that those hoping to romance Cassandra, Cullen, Sera, or Dorian might be unexpectedly locked out because of race. This game is a not unsubstantial time commitment, and some people only get one real shot to play due to RL commitments- if they completely withhold information that impacts how some players create their characters, more than a few could end up not getting their ideal playthrough and for literally the dumbest of reasons. 

 

And I don't know if I want MP or not. I'm terrible at the action oriented sections of RPGs, but what little I did of ME3's MP was so much fun (granted, the first time I played was with two friends and Mike Laidlaw, who probably thought my constant self-destruction was a deliberate attempt to sabotage our team effort). I'm keeping an open mind about it for DAI, but I won't be broken-hearted if it's not in.

 

As for Solas, I am 95% certain the screenshots from the Gamescom demo were meant to taunt us. Between THIGHS and that one where the play of light deliberately accentuates his ass, it's like a plot to make us the thirstiest thread on the BSN and not just the fuzziest.

 

I don't really think the marketing team or the devs really care about people who don't have time to restart their only playthrough if they're unhappy with the one they've got, unfortunately.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing a cooperative MP.  I liked ME3's a lot even though I'm terrible at it and still play on bronze only.

 

Thank you for that last line.  It made a dreary mood much better. 

 

You make great posts but I must admit I frequently feel compelled to like them anyway when I see your Vector avatar.  Vector   

 

Heheh, YES. Mage is my class so I'm like MAGIC YAAAS. And in DA2 Elemental was fire & ice and Primal was lightning & earth. Not sure why they felt the need to break up the Primal tree from Origins, but they did, and that's what we got instead.

 

ALSO. I FOUND THE FRAMES. They're... interesting.

 

Spoiler

(it's bigger than that, the forums just shrunk it. clicking it opens actual size.)

 

*snip*

 

Probably god mode for the demo.  Characters dying during fights wastes a very limited amount of time.

 

I'm thinking it's purely marketing strategy. I mean, consider that marketing isn't for us, the forum-goers. It's for the other people out there, and few things attract more attention than, "Well, we could tell you, but....~~~"

 

Annoying for us, effective for the Marketers. I assume.  

 

Except romances aren't a big draw.  Something like 40% of players didn't do a romance (in DAO or maaaybe ME?  I remember the number, it's from David Gaider, but not what it was in reference to) and the ones who do primarily go for the easiest to romance/most "normal" looking female.  So withholding any of the male LIs is just about worthless for marketing purposes.  The people who care are already here and probably pretty close to guaranteed to play the game.  Which may be why they won't tell us.  They already have the sale, so who cares?

[RynJ]

Just saying who is a LI is not a spoiler for those romance paths in the least. Or even much of an insight into the character, for that matter.  Saying, for example, "Solas and Varric are love interests" gives away nothing. I suppose tellling who is race-gated or not could be a little glimpse into the character but even then it's not much.

 

Holding back on saying who can or cannot be romanced only matters to fans like us; the very small percentage of fans who watch a game months before it releases. And even then, only to those among those fans who actually care about the romances, since not everybody does. Which is why I find the "mystery" kind of silly, especially since most of them are revealed. Most of us already plan to buy the game or we wouldn't be here, so they succeed in frustrating people but that's about it. 

 

Buuuut it does nothing to huff and puff about it, I suppose. We should focus on the awesome that is Solas! Whether or not he's a LI, he's a permanent on my team and EASILY the most interesting DAI character based on what we know so far. In my opinion, of course. 

[RebbyWriter]

Sometimes, when unexpected elements are revealed prior to release, I get a new idea for later plays.

 

For example, I thought about romance with Dorian but it was revealed he's gay. So, now I imagine him being my girl's bestie hanging out in the tavern and drinking. Then we'd gush about which guys are cute.

 

Then again, I try to do all the romance playthroughs just to see them all. lol. I also do a "tough" Inquisitor after I play one that is more like myself (which ends up being TOO nice and forgiving, at times)

 

I keep looking at the same place you guys are looking at in the screenshot but now I'm thinking about how wide his legs are and if he's flexible. OMG so wrong!

 

By the way, I hope I didn't bring this thread down with my talk. I tried to change the subject a few times but it keeps coming back! We are all unicorns and this is the happy feels thread. Share the happy feels with me, guise!

Modifié par RebbyWriter, 14 août 2014 - 08:00 .

[manabloom]

So...he was healed BEFORE he drank the potion? lol

 

-le snip-

 

Oh, so he might have been suffering from bleeding, I take it. Poor Solas. Let me bandage you up.

Ooh! Maybe status effects change the profile, then? That would be interesting!

 

Yeah, that's totally what happened, hah. It probably wasn't intentional but that's why his bar just jumped up like that. Insta-replenish!

But yeah, I'm pretty certain that's what it had to be. It can't be low health because Cole's was waaay lower (in the red) and his picture stayed the same.
It makes sense. Other games have visual indicators on the character when under a status effect, but I don't think DA does...? So maybe they're putting in creepy version of the portraits instead!

 

@manabloom

 

That's....interesting. So did they just insta-heal for the sake of the demo before Solas could heal himself? And yeah I can't tell whether or not that's a potion. It looks bottle-like at one point but it just appeared in his hand but I guess they've always done that. They haven't always been green, though. I have no clue 

 

That's what I'm thinking. Because BOOM. Full health. But then he very clearly does... something. It kinda looks like a potion chug animation (arm up, lean back) but yeah, it's hard to make out. At the very least, though, I feel like a magical healing animation would've been more complicated and pretty noticeable. 

 

Probably god mode for the demo.  Characters dying during fights wastes a very limited amount of time.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. They probably have it locked to keep 'em from fainting but maybe he did it anyway because it's in his tactics? Cole was super wounded but they also made a point of focusing on him when he healed himself so it was probably to show what it looks like or something.

[scintilla]

*snip*

 

I keep looking at the same place you guys are looking at in the screenshot but now I'm thinking about how wide his legs are and if he's flexible. OMG so wrong!

 

He certainly looks flexible, doesn't he?

 

We were spoiled with those screenshots.  Anyone coming into this thread now needs to mind the puddle of drool.

 

I feel a teeny bit guilty that he was focused on in nearly all the screenshots.  On the other hand *fans self*

 

 

Last word on marketing and LIs: I don't think it's bad to vent frustration sometimes, so long as everything stays civil. 

[Phate Phoenix]

Buuuut it does nothing to huff and puff about it, I suppose. We should focus on the awesome that is Solas! Whether or not he's a LI, he's a permanent on my team and EASILY the most interesting DAI character based on what we know so far. In my opinion, of course. 

 

Agreed. I mean, both the Iron Bull and Dorian are really interesting, because of the backgrounds they come from, but Solas is a unique story unto himself. Him and Cole, I suppose.  It's gonna be hard picking others for other teams, but I wanna get to know everyone.

 

But... but Solas.

[Dracarys]

 

Also I agree, I feel like they're deliberately teasing. One of my friends saw this screencap and he pointed out the...erm. You know what area. I couldn't stop laughing.

 

 

 

I keep looking at the same place you guys are looking at in the screenshot but now I'm thinking about how wide his legs are and if he's flexible. OMG so wrong!

 

All this talk of Solas's "area" made me think of this.

 

I'm so sorry.

 

Not really.

[scintilla]

All this talk of Solas's "area" made me think of this.

 

I'm so sorry.

 

Not really.

 

Solas went to the David-Bowie-as-Jareth school of dressing oneself.

[Dracarys]

Solas went to the David-Bowie-as-Jareth school of dressing oneself.

 

And we are all the richer for it.

[Nika]

All this talk of Solas's "area" made me think of this.

 

I'm so sorry.

 

Not really.

I love how all of our conversations about Solas pants/tights etc somehow lead to David Bowie

[Felya87]

one non-Solas related thing...in the new trailer, at something like 1:07 there is mage, but I can't understand who she is...is not a companion, nor someone I can remember from previous games...someone have ideas?

[scintilla]

I love how all of our conversations about Solas pants/tights etc somehow lead to David Bowie

 

It's the only place it can go.  Everything leads back to David Bowie('s area).

 

one non-Solas related thing...in the new trailer, at something like 1:07 there is mage, but I can't understand who she is...is not a companion, nor someone I can remember from previous games...someone have ideas?

 

I saw someone suggest that she was a comic character.  She might be an entirely new character too.

[Samahl]

I saw someone suggest that she was a comic character.

I saw someone theorize it was Fiona.

[Felya87]

I saw someone theorize it was Fiona.

 

I think that is not possible, since the woman is blonde and human...