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[Rabbitonfire]

Well, there's the possibility they could be dealing with a slave rebellion at the same time. That might do the trick. I'd totally play that game.

Revolution is hard in a nation where the ruling class can use mind control.

[nikki-tikki]

I don't dislike Orlais because it's french.  And the last I checked I didn't have pointy ears (or do I?!).

 

I dislike the Game.  And the pretentious nobles.  I don't dislike Orlesians because they mistreat elves because EVERYONE mistreats elves (except the qunari but that's another can of worms).  I also in general dislike imperialistic tendencies which is why I'm less fond of Gaspard and one of the reasons I also dislike the Qunari.  

 

I'm kind of rambling but honestly I wouldn't really want to see Val Royeux destroyed.

 

Gaspard for President.

[ChuChu]

For those wondering.

 

https://twitter.com/...612249582612480

 

 

 

Teaser? Wolf tail? Tarot card?

Oooohhhhh! And I will continue to check this thread to see if any news develops!!

Meanwhile, I did my own little investigation of the image (Solas helped). Figure C is by far the most interesting:

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[Elessara]

Gaspard for President.

 

Only if he abandons the "let's invade Ferelden again" rhetoric!

 

Although if I recall he does negotiate peace with Ferelden if you make him leader - during a wartable mission.  I forget though.

[dawnstone]

At this time I'll take anything that gets me back in the game, I got nothing to play at the moment ><

You could do what I do, and play the game inside a different game.

 

Shite oversized Sims 2 pics, btw:

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I have my doubts whether this project will be done before I am bored with it, but I attempted to block out the major shapes:

 

Hard hat area.

 

Those were the best horns I could find for Bull. I may have to build a cabin outside for them to live in during construction. A sim cannot live on marshmallows alone.

[nikki-tikki]

Oooohhhhh! And I will continue to check this thread to see if any news develops!!

Meanwhile, I did my own little investigation of the image (Solas helped). Figure C is by far the most interesting:

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I hope you know you are falling for troll bait...

[MaidenM]

-snip-

 

For a sims 2 sim, that is actually a very good Dorian there x) Been playing sims 4 in a vain attempt to just game but I have no inspiration. The alternative is to study and I'm bad at that ><

[Meer]

Nothing wrong with Gaspard, if one wishes to empower Orlais. I might even argue Gaspard as the best choice. He has the support of the Chevaliers and thus the army, making him a powerful ally to the Inquisition (particularly during the conflict with Corypheus). Upon becoming Emperor, he crushes all internal opposition (thus solidifying his hold on the throne). Because he disdains the game, you can bet that its importance will be reduced under his rule, especially since he can so effectively remove his enemies. Also, If you perform the war table mission correctly, he makes peace with Fereldan and turns his attention instead to actual-threat Tevinter ™, where he wins victory after victory.

[Cee]

Oooohhhhh! And I will continue to check this thread to see if any news develops!!

Meanwhile, I did my own little investigation of the image (Solas helped). Figure C is by far the most interesting:

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Maybe with all the dwarf hints, a figure in a horned helmet?

 

[Rabbitonfire]

Nothing wrong with Gaspard, if one wishes to empower Orlais. I might even argue Gaspard as the best choice. He has the support of the Chevaliers and thus the army, making him a powerful ally to the Inquisition (particularly during the conflict with Corypheus). Upon becoming Emperor, he crushes all internal opposition (thus solidifying his hold on the throne). Because he disdains the game, you can bet that its importance will be reduced under his rule, especially since he can so effectively remove his enemies. Also, If you perform the war table mission correctly, he makes peace with Fereldan and turns his attention instead to actual-threat Tevinter ™, where he wins victory after victory.

Yeah but he will cut funds to the university of Orlais.

 

But still... I didn't vote for Celene. 

[ChuChu]

I hope you know you are falling for troll bait...

I like to think of it more like I'm throwing petrol on a fire. :>

Doesn't mean it's not fun!

[midnight tea]

Nothing wrong with Gaspard, if one wishes to empower Orlais. I might even argue Gaspard as the best choice. He has the support of the Chevaliers and thus the army, making him a powerful ally to the Inquisition (particularly during the conflict with Corypheus). Upon becoming Emperor, he crushes all internal opposition (thus solidifying his hold on the throne). Because he disdains the game, you can bet that its importance will be reduced under his rule, especially since he can so effectively remove his enemies. Also, If you perform the war table mission correctly, he makes peace with Fereldan and turns his attention instead to actual-threat Tevinter ™, where he wins victory after victory.

 

His dreams of returning to expansionism (just for sake of it, it seems) is enough of a reason (for me) to never really chose him - we don't really need yet another empire that dreams of wars for territory and influence. The fact that he'd try to diminish the importance of the Game may not mean much in the long run. Drakon himself tried to so that, if I remember correctly, and his efforts were futile in the end.

[Cee]

Nothing wrong with Gaspard, if one wishes to empower Orlais. I might even argue Gaspard as the best choice. He has the support of the Chevaliers and thus the army, making him a powerful ally to the Inquisition (particularly during the conflict with Corypheus). Upon becoming Emperor, he crushes all internal opposition (thus solidifying his hold on the throne). Because he disdains the game, you can bet that its importance will be reduced under his rule, especially since he can so effectively remove his enemies. Also, If you perform the war table mission correctly, he makes peace with Fereldan and turns his attention instead to actual-threat Tevinter ™, where he wins victory after victory.

 

 

I can't stand Gaspard, especially after reading The Masked Empire. I exiled him and let him live but he dies in my subsequent playthroughs. He is a warmonger, expansionist, and cares nothing for the elves. And he cannot be trusted.

 

The only good thing that you can get in game that has to do with him is the war table mission Restoring Michel de Chevin's Honor. And he does, taking him back regardless of his heritage because he's simply a great chevalier. Celene's reaction to asking for a public reconciliation is telling. I didn't do that, I let them handle it privately. But it says a lot about the Game and appearances with regards to Michel, who saved Celene enough times.

[BoscoBread]

@Meer - Yes. I used to be on the Briala/Celene train but I think it's about as idealistic as Leliana as Divine "And everyone magically all got along and listened...WHEN THE NEVER DID BEFORE."  I mean...look Leliana is clearly a witch and immortal given how many times I killed her but COME ON.  That's not going to end well. Hardened Leliana is way more realistic and her secret and bloody internal war happened all the time in religion. **** look at the Catholic church.

 

I think both are interesting world states though. I do think Celene's rule well end up much like Louis and Marie Antoinette. She'll be dead due to in-fighting and she has NO support of the general army.  So that could be fascinating. 

 

Gaspard though a warmonger - is the best person to bring actual peace to the region.  It's bloody. It's ruthless. But that's unfortunately what works with actual people.  Also fun.

[midnight tea]

@Meer - Yes. I used to be on the Briala/Celene train but I think it's about as idealistic as Leliana as Divine "And everyone magically all got along and listened...WHEN THE NEVER DID BEFORE."  I mean...look Leliana is clearly a witch and immortal given how many times I killed her but COME ON.  That's not going to end well. Hardened Leliana is way more realistic and her secret and bloody internal war happened all the time in religion. **** look at the Catholic church.

 

Um, internal wars between religions or Catholic Church aren't really things we should take cues from^^; If anything, they show how such approach is destructive and brings nothing (other than - to quote Sera - lopping off the top and frigging everything up again) in the end.

[Elessara]

Nothing wrong with Gaspard, if one wishes to empower Orlais. I might even argue Gaspard as the best choice. He has the support of the Chevaliers and thus the army, making him a powerful ally to the Inquisition (particularly during the conflict with Corypheus). Upon becoming Emperor, he crushes all internal opposition (thus solidifying his hold on the throne). Because he disdains the game, you can bet that its importance will be reduced under his rule, especially since he can so effectively remove his enemies. Also, If you perform the war table mission correctly, he makes peace with Fereldan and turns his attention instead to actual-threat Tevinter ™, where he wins victory after victory.

 

I don't hate Gaspard.  There are pros and cons to each ruler choice for Orlais.  I am less fond of him because of his warlike tendencies than I would have been otherwise though.  But as I said, each choice has it's own issues and none of them are meant to be a perfect solution.

 

But this is getting a little off track so ... Solas!  DLC news hopefully soon!  STOP TAUNTING US BIOWARE!

[Illyria]

@Meer - Yes. I used to be on the Briala/Celene train but I think it's about as idealistic as Leliana as Divine "And everyone magically all got along and listened...WHEN THE NEVER DID BEFORE."  I mean...look Leliana is clearly a witch and immortal given how many times I killed her but COME ON.  That's not going to end well. Hardened Leliana is way more realistic and her secret and bloody internal war happened all the time in religion. **** look at the Catholic church.

 

I think both are interesting world states though. I do think Celene's rule well end up much like Louis and Marie Antoinette. She'll be dead due to in-fighting and she has NO support of the general army.  So that could be fascinating. 

 

Gaspard though a warmonger - is the best person to bring actual peace to the region.  It's bloody. It's ruthless. But that's unfortunately what works with actual people.  Also fun.

 

That's why I went for Celene/Briala.  I get results for elves (yay!) and the potential for Orlais to explode next time they have a lovers tiff.

[Cee]

That's why I went for Celene/Briala.  I get results for elves (yay!) and the potential for Orlais to explode next time they have a lovers tiff.

 

In my game I walked too far and triggered the Florianne confrontation so I could only just get Celene alone, but I intended to have Celene/Briala. It's a sort of mess of its own but there's something to be said for potential accomplishments for elves and partnership. So I'm changing my canon world state to have Celene/Briala. May move the just Celene thing to my mage.

[Meer]

Re: Gaspard and expansionism

Think of the world he lives in. This is not modern Earth, but Thedas, whose societies attempt to mirror both medieval Europe and 17th century France (which is an issue, BIoware, but one for another time and place). Expansionism is a must. It is expected. One must think for the sake of their own nation, and how to extend its powers and influence to the greatest effect. Often, this means taking resources, be that land or people. In fact, for the most part, real world nations refrained from conquering one another for very self-serving reasons, not least of all preserving a balance: if a certain nation fell, that would mean the rise of another's powers, and that might not be great for the conqueror themselves. Modern morality has no place when considering such things. This not only is not earth, it is not present day.
 

Furthermore, I'd argue none of them are good for the elves. The best might be Briala on her own. But undeniably, each of our choices have done terrible things to elves.

[nikki-tikki]

That's why I went for Celene/Briala.  I get results for elves (yay!) and the potential for Orlais to explode next time they have a lovers tiff.

 

Which will bring you back to square one I imagine. You can't just get rid of Orlais...elves or no elves you need a united Empire. Unless you want the Imperium moving in and THAT will be real fun for elves then...

[BoscoBread]

*looks at my post* where did I say that's a good thing?  Yes, I would prefer if you could "talk it out".  However, history has proven a million times over that's not likely. Even avoiding making real world analogues - Thedosian history has proven it's impossible. 

 

People don't agree on what's right and what's best.  If a drastic change is needed to shape the world you want to live in then you will have to drag some people kicking and screaming.  Sometimes that leads to wars or internal strife.  Obviously you should try for peace first. But be prepared when it doesn't stick.

[Illyria]

Which will bring you back to square one I imagine. You can't just get rid of Orlais...elves or no elves you need a united Empire. Unless you want the Imperium moving in and THAT will be real fun for elves then...

 

Good point.

 

But given as my Lavellan is a mostly idealistic young lady I can't ever see going Briala with Gaspard as her puppet in my canon worldstate.

[nikki-tikki]

Good point.

 

But given as my Lavellan is a mostly idealistic young lady I can't ever see going Briala with Gaspard as her puppet in my canon worldstate.

 

Why? Wouldn't you want to use the Emperor as a puppet? 

 

My Tyrant Lavellan has Gaspard in his pocket. He can do whatever he wants with Orlais. 

[nikki-tikki]

*looks at my post* where did I say that's a good thing?  Yes, I would prefer if you could "talk it out".  However, history has proven a million times over that's not likely. Even avoiding making real world analogues - Thedosian history has proven it's impossible. 

 

People don't agree on what's right and what's best.  If a drastic change is needed to shape the world you want to live in then you will have to drag some people kicking and screaming.  Sometimes that leads to wars or internal strife.  Obviously you should try for peace first. But be prepared when it doesn't stick.

 

Psst...

 

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Here I found some Witcher bunnies for you :3

[ChuChu]

 

 

Maybe with all the dwarf hints, a figure in a horned helmet?

 

Yes! Or a HURLOCK wearing a helmet! What else has horns. Qunari? Dragons. Elf-dragons. Elf-dragon Qun masquerading as Dwarves.

PS: the 'border' in Figure C is actually more likely a result of the gradient in the original image, but shhh... don't tell Solas. He's very excited.