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Ooooor... huh - what if Solas travels the world in search of elves like liked/romanced Lavellans? He then whisks them away and locks them, to ensure only "quality elves" remain after some sort of apocalyptic event? :devil: Maybe Lavellan was supposed to suffer that fate too, but he couldn't bring himself to do this to her? ;P

...You know, one of the super crack theories that popped into my mind after I'd ruminated on Solas' true identity was that though he loves Lavellan, she's still far beneath him in terms of overall life experience. I mean he's clearly lonely and miserable about everything, and my Lavellan was a bright ray of sunshine in comparison through the whole game. The only way to truly make her his equal is to make her just as miserable as him by leaving her brokenhearted and going off on a mysterious quest that will trigger some apocalyptic disaster, ultimately ending in everyone/thing she loves being ripped away from her just like he had happen to him. And they can finally be together when she has nobody else. They're together but alone in their suffering.

 

Obviously this is not the case, but if Dragon Age were a manga then Yan'harel would be a thing, okay.



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Early Grey cookies  <_<...

 

... Is it werid that for tea-a-holic, who can drink all kinds of teas, from black, green through white or red (and all kinds of blends or herbal teas) - and I usually drink them all strong and plain, with no sweeteners - I just can't really find a place in my heart for Earl Grey?

 

Yes. :P

 

Earl Grey is my favorite. But, more for me. You and Solas can both disapprove. :) I just made coffee to chase a headache but I should have made Earl Grey. I wonder if Solas would like herbal, non-caffeinated blends. Things that didn't affect his Fade visits. Patrick Weekes hates tea of all kinds, to which I shake my head.


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....Well, there's this whole "duty" thing :P Maybe he thinks he can do much good by leading Inquisition, hence it's better she stayed where she is (lol, wacky theories aside, this is in fact quite a legitimate reason for him to leave her). 

 

I think this is definitely part of it. Clearly duty and belonging to one's "people" are very important for him. I think he respects her duty to the Inquisition just as much as his own to his mission, even if at some point these two might end up being antagonistic. 

 

Also, as much as I like to headcanon it as rivalmance, I think for the game romance to lock, Solas generally approves of the Lavellan's decisions and moral principles. On some level, I do think he cares for the Inquisiton and modern Thedas (he gives you approval if you do all the little helping missions in the Hinterlands), and he probably believes the Inquisition would be much better off with someone he values so greatly in charge. 

 

There's just something more to it, though, because if you select the "I believe in us" option, you get this dialogue:

 

Lavellan: I'm not giving up on you, Solas.

Solas: You truly should.

Lavellan: Whatever you need, we can find together.

Solas: We can't, you'll see. 

 

This makes me think he just simply can't ask Lavellan to run away with him, even if she would want nothing more. There is something in his mission that interferes with the romance. 


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Yes. :P

 

Earl Grey is my favorite. But, more for me. You and Solas can both disapprove. :) I just made coffee to chase a headache but I should have made Earl Grey. I wonder if Solas would like herbal, non-caffeinated blends. Things that didn't affect his Fade visits.

 

More for you, yes :P You ca take it with my blessing.

 

Anyway, I think Solas may approve of mint and lemon balm, considering that it can make people calm down and relax (as it happens, I LOVE mint. I drink it as much as I drink regular tea, especially few hours before going to bed or having a stressful day). Rooibos has a particular taste that may not be up to people's alley (if I drink rooibos myself I usually pick quite heavily favored blends). Honeybush tea is also an interesting option - I do like its delicate taste.

 

Patrick Weekes hates tea of all kinds, to which I shake my head.

 

This is beyond my comprehension!

 

I'm the weird one though in a sense that - aside from teas of all kind and plain water I hardly drink anything else. Occasionally, I drink "dessert coffees", some juices and Coca/Pepsi-Cola with a few slices of lemon (lemon juice in tea is NOT my thing, but it does wonders to cola!), but other than that... just tea and water :D



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My ex hates tea.  That should have been a sign.


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(lemon juice in tea is NOT my thing, but it does wonders to cola!)

 

Agreed!


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I think this is definitely part of it. Clearly duty and belonging to one's "people" are very important for him. I think he respects her duty to the Inquisition just as much as his own to his mission, even if at some point these two might end up being antagonistic. 

 

Also, as much as I like to headcanon it as rivalmance, I think for the game romance to lock, Solas generally approves of the Lavellan's decisions and moral principles. On some level, I do think he cares for the Inquisiton and modern Thedas (he gives you approval if you do all the little helping missions in the Hinterlands), and he probably believes the Inquisition would be much better off with someone he values so greatly in charge. 

 

There's just something more to it, though, because if you select the "I believe in us" option, you get this dialogue:

 

Lavellan: I'm not giving up on you, Solas.

Solas: You truly should.

Lavellan: Whatever you need, we can find together.

Solas: We can't, you'll see. 

 

This makes me think he just simply can't ask Lavellan to run away with him, even if she would want nothing more. There is something in his mission that interferes with the romance. 

 

 

Look, the awkward meeting with his ex girlfriend can be overcome.

 

But in seriousness, it could also just mean his identity and his mission being something he thinks of as ill-fated, dangerous, or as you say, possibly putting him in an antagonistic spot.


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Oh Colonel...I am so disappointed in you.

What can I say, I'm just amazed at people's emotional endurance I suppose, lol. I'm just over it all, bioware took way too long and their momentum died out for me. Went back to Skyrim, got a tattoo:

 

http://colonelkillab...d-a-pretty-epic

 

:P Anyway, I'm glad you lot still have the energy to carry on. Maybe when something interesting happens, I'll come back. My attention span's just not that good. And of course, Bioware's dlc shenanigans pisses me off.

 

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We don't really got off topic often..and when we do..it doesn't last that long. I dunno what he was smoking when he wrote that.

 

Some really good **** I like to call nostalgia, lol. As was said, I was referring to a time months ago, because of the conversation that this comment was pulled from out of context. 


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With all the teases from bioware and midnight tea I may actually go insane. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas. Oh the anxiety, IN...NEED...OF...CONFIRMED...NEWS!!!!


Edit: Oh please, oh please be solamance DLC..
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lemon juice in tea is NOT my thing, but it does wonders to cola!

You know what else does wonders to cola? A nice double shot of Malibu ;P

On the topic of tea: I am currently on a coconut oolong kick. But I just ran out and am now drinking a peach white tea that is delicious. I don't fathom how PW and Solas could detest the stuff. 

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My favorite part about Solas disliking tea is that.....we know sugar and honey exist in Thedas. We know Solas has something of a sweet tooth.

 

You can sweeten your tea when you absolutely have to have it, Solas. You can make your life easier.


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I think this is definitely part of it. Clearly duty and belonging to one's "people" are very important for him. I think he respects her duty to the Inquisition just as much as his own to his mission, even if at some point these two might end up being antagonistic. 

 

Also, as much as I like to headcanon it as rivalmance, I think for the game romance to lock, Solas generally approves of the Lavellan's decisions and moral principles. On some level, I do think he cares for the Inquisiton and modern Thedas (he gives you approval if you do all the little helping missions in the Hinterlands), and he probably believes the Inquisition would be much better off with someone he values so greatly in charge. 

 

There's just something more to it, though, because if you select the "I believe in us" option, you get this dialogue:

 

Lavellan: I'm not giving up on you, Solas.

Solas: You truly should.

Lavellan: Whatever you need, we can find together.

Solas: We can't, you'll see. 

 

This makes me think he just simply can't ask Lavellan to run away with him, even if she would want nothing more. There is something in his mission that interferes with the romance. 

 

Having never picked that dialogue option, that just makes me very sad.

 

At this point I pretty much expect Solas to end up as the antagonist for the next game, or at least the catalyst who manages to make it possible for the next antagonist to rise to power (and likely, Solas will be the one blamed regardless).

 

I even kind of expect we might have to kill Solas in a DLC, if he isn't the antagonist of the next Dragon Age game.  I don't want to have to kill him.

 

But just in case anyone wants a little ray of hope from me, remember that Solas is at least as much a negative thinker as Garrus from Mass Effect.  He doesn't think anything good is likely to happen.  Maybe it's because he thinks a Dalish can't possibly accept being with Fen'harel.  Or, maybe it's because Solas considers himself so far separate from modern elves that no matter how much he wants to be with Lavellan, it's not going to be possible in the end.

 

The scariest possibility is that Solas's plans are morally objectionable to a degree that he can't help but realize it, and knows that the Inquisitor would attempt to stop him.  I don't think he'd refuse to kill a romanced Lavellan if she ran away with him and then tried to stop him doing whatever it is that he's doing.

 

Alternatively, Solas may fully expect that the Inquisitor will die due to whatever he's doing.  In that case, believing in a future together would be a fallacy--a painful one--and the Inquisitor definitely wouldn't be able to help him do what he intends to do.

 

Solas also needed the orb at the time that this dialogue takes place.  We don't know what he meant to do with it, but considering he had plans to lay claim to it as his alone, it probably would have caused immediate hostility with the Inquisitor and the rest of the party.  Maybe he would also have done something to the Inquisitor with it--changed or removed the Anchor, seeing as that magic actually belongs to Solas.


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What can I say, I'm just amazed at people's emotional endurance I suppose, lol. I'm just over it all, bioware took way too long and their momentum died out for me. Went back to Skyrim, got a tattoo:

 

http://colonelkillab...d-a-pretty-epic

 

:P Anyway, I'm glad you lot still have the energy to carry on. Maybe when something interesting happens, I'll come back. My attention span's just not that good. And of course, Bioware's dlc shenanigans pisses me off.

 

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Some really good **** I like to call nostalgia, lol. As was said, I was referring to a time months ago, because of the conversation that this comment was pulled from out of context. 

Oh I love your new tattoo!!  It's awesome. It's nice to see you. :lol:



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Look, the awkward meeting with his ex girlfriend can be overcome..

 

It absolutely can. Mark ability + energy barrage + stone fist. 


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It absolutely can. Mark ability + energy barrage + stone fist. 

 

Huh.  And here I was thinking a slap across the face would be sufficient.  I need to think bigger apparently.


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Having never picked that dialogue option, that just makes me very sad.

 

At this point I pretty much expect Solas to end up as the antagonist for the next game, or at least the catalyst who manages to make it possible for the next antagonist to rise to power (and likely, Solas will be the one blamed regardless).

 

I even kind of expect we might have to kill Solas in a DLC, if he isn't the antagonist of the next Dragon Age game.  I don't want to have to kill him.

 

 

I have a theory, especially after reading The Masked Empire and seeing things like Geldauran's Claim, that whatever forces are rumbling, and are at work here, these will be our true antagonist(s). I think there's a chance Solas may need our help because of something else that happens. We may even have some of our other old beliefs flipped or exposed as spin before we're done.

 

Maybe he'll need the last remnants of his old power - The Anchor. Someone asked Weekes once and it could just be him doing his usual 'spoilers'/trolling, but maybe not.

 

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It absolutely can. Mark ability + energy barrage + stone fist. 

 

:lol:


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What can I say, I'm just amazed at people's emotional endurance I suppose, lol. I'm just over it all, bioware took way too long and their momentum died out for me. Went back to Skyrim, got a tattoo:

 

http://colonelkillab...d-a-pretty-epic

 

:P Anyway, I'm glad you lot still have the energy to carry on. Maybe when something interesting happens, I'll come back. My attention span's just not that good. And of course, Bioware's dlc shenanigans pisses me off.

 

We joke about the DLC drought often enough, but we've also had new and returning folks in those months. It's still fun enough to keep stopping by.

 

Love the tattoo. :)



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My favorite part about Solas disliking tea is that.....we know sugar and honey exist in Thedas. We know Solas has something of a sweet tooth.

 

You can sweeten your tea when you absolutely have to have it, Solas. You can make your life easier.

 

No! As an authority on hating tea, it just makes it worse. 


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#109145
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No! As an authority on hating tea, it just makes it worse. 

I'm the opposite, I have to sweeten it to like it most of the time :c


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No! As an authority on hating tea, it just makes it worse. 

 

Found you!

 

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Found you!

 

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Haha, not me but a kindred soul, definitely.



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You know what else does wonders to cola? A nice double shot of Malibu ;P

On the topic of tea: I am currently on a coconut oolong kick. But I just ran out and am now drinking a peach white tea that is delicious. I don't fathom how PW and Solas could detest the stuff. 

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I was just about to post this  :lol:

Spoiler

My thoughts when I first had the "It is tea. I detest the stuff!" conversation with Solas.  :crying:

Also, my cat is named Zuko. :D My little fire bender.


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I was just about to post this  :lol:

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My thoughts when I first had the "It is tea. I detest the stuff!" conversation with Solas.  :crying:

Also, my cat is named Zuko. :D My little fire bender.

Nothing related to this post. I just wanted to say I liked your elfie icon.


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Early Grey cookies  <_<...

 

... Is it werid that for tea-a-holic, who can drink all kinds of teas, from black, green through white or red (and all kinds of blends or herbal teas) - and I usually drink them all strong and plain, with no sweeteners - I just can't really find a place in my heart for Earl Grey?

 

Early Grey cookies  <_<...

 

... Is it werid that for tea-a-holic, who can drink all kinds of teas, from black, green through white or red (and all kinds of blends or herbal teas) - and I usually drink them all strong and plain, with no sweeteners - I just can't really find a place in my heart for Earl Grey?

You're not the only one. :)

Karl Marx, for example, hated Earl Grey. After all, all proper tea is theft.

 

:lol:  :lol:

For the earlier Orlesian question, I have a love/hate relationship with the Orlesians. They're definitely entertaining, I just enjoy the occasional smackdown by Fereldans or Nevarrans.

My main problem with Gaspard isn't that he's a warmonger, because Josie can curtail that, it's that he's in his sixties. (If I remember correctly, he doesn't have any children either.) Another succession crisis seems likely. Maybe they'll be another Valmont with the right skill set that Gaspard can name heir. 

While expansionism was common for a reason, I think a certain Siggy Reuven explained how boring but awesome peacefully building a prosperous nation is to Geralt.  :wub:

I'm the weird guy who idolizes the people who do the 'boring', grueling work rather than the 'glamorous' conquering and heroics. Bring on the clerks, accountants, secretaries, nurses, and chancellors!  ^_^ By far my favorite character on The Tudors which I've started watching is Thomas Cromwell, for Melitele's sake. I feel like history sometimes pays too much attention to kings and battles rather than tax reforms and census takers.

It seems to me that Orlais, with her warmongering, has managed to make lifelong enemies of Ferelden for their unprovoked invasion and abuses during the occupation, as well as earning the resentment of the Free Marches, the wariness of the Imperium, and the ongoing power struggles with Nevarra. They'd be well served by consolidating all of the gains they've made, and getting at least a few friends to back them up. Celene made a decent overture of turning Ferelden into an ally, but the marriage proposal probably wouldn't have gone unprotested by the banns.

I've been leaning toward Briala+Gaspard as my world-state lately. I simply don't trust the relationship between Briala and Celene to hold, not after everything that's happened to them. Briala and Gaspard seem to have a less messy relationship, and the elves of Orlais need more help than most. 


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