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[Bayonet Hipshot]

I tend to be in the minority on this one, but I genuinely like setting progression in terms of science and technology.  One of the things I really liked about Legend of Korra was how they advanced the setting from asian fantasy to asian steampunk during the decades-long lapse between Korra and Aang's times.  And magic and technology don't HAVE to be mutually exclusive in a setting unless there's an explicit lore reason for them to be that way.

 

This. I thoroughly enjoyed the Avatar world's combination of magic and technology. Let's be honest though, we already have some technological progress, especially in the field of smithing and alchemy. Those traps, poisons, grenades, chemical weaponry and concoctions are not magic as far as we know.

 

What's more, we have cannons and hard drive of sorts. I mean, that is what those Dwarven Memory Crystals are, no ? Additionally, the Thieves Lantern that is part of the Artificer specialization ? That's technology, specifically a technological invention by Bianca Davri. Varric mentions in a banter that she should have been elevated to Paragon for that invention.

 

Regarding the Gaatlok cannon, I see it as the precursor to guns and missile launchers. That is probably another reason why the Qun keeps a tight hold of it. I would not be surprised to see them innovate the thing in the future.

 

 

Also, Caddius and Sable Rhapsody - I'm actually quite enjoying this discussion.  It's nice to have a civil debate about why people like things.

 

Although, if Thedas became a technology infused yet still magical setting ... how would Solas react?  Would he embrace the new fangled gadgets or would he shake his fist and tell people to get off his lawn?

 

Personally, as long as technology didn't smother magic or harm spirits, I think Solas would embrace it.  Anyone remember that Babylon 5 episode with the technowizards?  That would be Solas.

 

If technology is used in the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom, Solas would greatly approve.

 

 

*Snip*

 

I think the printing press exists, but it is most likely a Dwarven invention. Prior to Varric and his books, there was very little mention of printing and publishing.
 

[Sable Rhapsody]

I think the printing press exists, but it is most likely a Dwarven invention. Prior to Varric and his books, there was very little mention of printing and publishing.

 

Now THAT is interesting.  Of course it would be the dwarves who are like, "Guys, literacy.  It's cool beans, yeah?" 

 

What's more, we have cannons and hard drive of sorts. I mean, that is what those Dwarven Memory Crystals are, no ? Additionally, the Thieves Lantern that is part of the Artificer specialization ? That's technology, specifically a technological invention by Bianca Davri. Varric mentions in a banter that she should have been elevated to Paragon for that invention.

 

Regarding the Gaatlok cannon, I see it as the precursor to guns and missile launchers. That is probably another reason why the Qun keeps a tight hold of it. I would not be surprised to see them innovate the thing in the future.

 

I really, really want them to do more with gaatlok in the setting.  The real impact of gunpowder is how gunpowder weapons to turn anyone into a viable combatant with significantly less training than traditional weapons.  The qunari seem to be fully aware of the societal implications of something like gunpowder; I wonder if they restrict also its use both to prevent their own people from being able to arm and revolt.  Do we know if your average non-military qunari is trained in the use of combat weapons?  

 

The dwarves are close to developing something like gunpowder as of Awakening, and we know they would be less stringent about its use.  That could be a lot of fun

[drosophila]

Personally, I can't draw a line between magic and science/technology in Thedas. Magic seems to follow some logical laws inherent to that universe, so I see it as another scientific field, just one we don't have on Earth. Spells, amulets, elven Orbs are technology. Not everyone can operate it, but the same could be said for a space shuttle.

 

To me the lore and and character dialogue in DA make magic seem more "scientific" than the science and technology in Star Trek, as one example. "I'm sensing a quantum flux in your cellular RNA." ( ) is the most ridiculous pseudo-scientific thing I've hear in all of fiction and it came from Star Trek. 

 

Also I enjoy spending long hours awake in the dark inventing headcanons of the actual science behind the magic. Elven genes, neurons, and microscopic rifts opening inside mage brain cells... With the proper amount of sleep deprivation, it almost sounds legit.  

[Delphine]

Not me. Stupid Solas! I hate him.

 

You've always been the special snowflake of this thread, keep it up!

[Sable Rhapsody]

Also I enjoy spending long hours awake in the dark inventing headcanons of the actual science behind the magic. Elven genes, neurons, and microscopic rifts opening inside mage brain cells... With the proper amount of sleep deprivation, it almost sounds legit.  

 

Yeah, it's definitely fun to think about.  And I'm personally am a little tired of seeing "magic" used as an excuse not to delve into the underpinning logic of a universe, even a fantasy universe.  I still love the Young Wizards series because while they have magic and wizard cats and alternate dimensions, it follows very clear, logical rules about how magic interacts with physics, and how it can and can't be used.  Same goes for Avatar; bending is magic to us, but in-universe, it follows rules too.  Even the Avatar is limited in how much they can break the rules 

[drosophila]

Yeah, it's definitely fun to think about.  And I'm personally am a little tired of seeing "magic" used as an excuse not to delve into the underpinning logic of a universe, even a fantasy universe.  I still love the Young Wizards series because while they have magic and wizard cats and alternate dimensions, it follows very clear, logical rules about how magic interacts with physics, and how it can and can't be used.  Same goes for Avatar; bending is magic to us, but in-universe, it follows rules too.  Even the Avatar is limited in how much they can break the rules 

 

I haven't seen them (Avatar's been on my list for forever) but now I'm very likely to. 

 

My favorite in this regard is Fullmetal Alchemist. I know I bring it up like every other day but it's that good. At some point I realized that alchemy in that universe is exactly like chemistry with two differences:

 

1. There is no activation energy for a reaction.

2. You can will a reaction with your mind. 

 

Other than that, you get a chemistry lesson from every battle. Also, that moment in Brotherhood where Ed is trying to distract himself from "disturbing" thoughts about Winry by reciting the periodic table... To a nerd like me that was the cutest thing ever

[Avejajed]

You've always been the special snowflake of this thread, keep it up!

Special snowflake:
A member of that newly-adult, me'er-than-me generation which expects attention and praise just for being themselves -- doing anything to deserve it is completely optional.

Well, I certainly can't help being awesome.

I wanted to add I am very nearly past newly adult though. (Okay, all the way past.)

[nikki-tikki]

Special snowflake:
A member of that newly-adult, me'er-than-me generation which expects attention and praise just for being themselves -- doing anything to deserve it is completely optional.

Well, I certainly can't help being awesome.

I wanted to add I am very nearly past newly adult though. (Okay, all the way past.)

 

nice blog there Ave :3

 

[Renmiri1]

On the importance of pixel penis and the enhancement of the gaming experience:

 

NSFW: mentions non-lute d-slang

Spoiler

 

 

 

On real ones (nothing nsfw, just words) being displayed on all media (Tyler's message to Lenny Kravitz)

Spoiler

[dawnstone]

 

Role play Solas blog + porn - shower  = GROSS.  

 

Especially if you stumble on it accidentally. 

 

Seriously - if you thought the "bottom" of the fandom was sort of  just crazed people...you were wrong. That's the abyss and it goes on forever.

 

 

We're joking as well.  We've posted enough weird sexual stuff in the thread. Who cares.  Be free with your bad self Darth. Be free.  

 

I guess it depends on where you're coming from. I like reading and writing porn. It's always been a part of fandom for me, and something I've enjoyed with other fans who didn't feel weird or gross about it. Or maybe they did and didn't say anything and blocked me-which is cool, nobody should put up with "junk" they don't have time for.

 

All the same, if I read a prompt about having Solas give Lavellan, or Dorian, or some other character I enjoy, some sweet loving and I feel like writing it, I do. If other people subsequently read it and enjoy it, I feel pretty good about that.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The more you know.

[Avejajed]

nice blog there Ave :3

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[S.W.]

Honestly, the moment someone says 'fictional pixel dick' I kind of switch off.

 

[KarateKats]

I guess it depends on where you're coming from. I like reading and writing porn. It's always been a part of fandom for me, and something I've enjoyed with other fans who didn't feel weird or gross about it. Or maybe they did and didn't say anything and blocked me-which is cool, nobody should put up with "junk" they don't have time for.

 

All the same, if I read a prompt about having Solas give Lavellan, or Dorian, or some other character I enjoy, some sweet loving and I feel like writing it, I do. If other people subsequently read it and enjoy it, I feel pretty good about that.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The more you know.

I think it was the minus shower thing that made the porn blog gross. Like I'm all about reading sexy fanfiction, and I've definitely drawn some Solas pr0n... but when you throw in unwashed body parts it gets.. not so fun.

[BoscoBread]

I guess it depends on where you're coming from. I like reading and writing porn. It's always been a part of fandom for me, and something I've enjoyed with other fans who didn't feel weird or gross about it. Or maybe they did and didn't say anything and blocked me-which is cool, nobody should put up with "junk" they don't have time for.

 

All the same, if I read a prompt about having Solas give Lavellan, or Dorian, or some other character I enjoy, some sweet loving and I feel like writing it, I do. If other people subsequently read it and enjoy it, I feel pretty good about that.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The more you know.

Yeaaaaaaaaaahh. You'll just have to take my word on this one. I like porn. I like weird porn.  This was....neither. 

 

but yeah support kinks, porn, sex positivity and all that jazz...*fart noise*

[Uirebhiril]

Sexy art or fic is great, and is usually tagged and spoilered so people can make a decision on if they want to view it or not. But if folks come by here and see a deep discussion on the genitals of a video game character and each person's headcanon involving size and appearance, it would be a bit weird.

 

But I totally get behind the "unused tea cup" variety of Solas junk.

[drosophila]

All the junk discussion reminds me of banter between Aveline and Isabela. (Just joking!)

[Uirebhiril]

All the junk discussion reminds me of banter between Aveline and Isabela. (Just joking!)

 

They had the best banter. "Lady man-hands" still cracks me up.

[Rabbitonfire]

All the junk discussion reminds me of banter between Aveline and Isabela. (Just joking!)

I honestly enjoyed their bickering. 

[Caddius]

The magic and the dragons and unicorns and such don't do that?

 

That kind of reminds me of one of my old DMs in D&D.  He would say, no your rogue can't evade that spell even though the rules say you can because it's too unrealistic.  The rest of the group:  Gosh, we kind of find it unrealistic to see a guy chant some words and have a fireball appear from his fingertips.

 

Why yes, the DM did get annoyed with us about that.  ;D

 

To me, that's kind of the point of fantasy, though.  Unrealistic, magical stuff. 

 

Sci fi, on the other hand, whilst unrealistic has an air of possibility about it.  If our technology advanced enough, we might be able to one day do this.

 

Both are awesome for different reasons.

 

The magic and the dragons and unicorns and such don't do that?

 

That kind of reminds me of one of my old DMs in D&D.  He would say, no your rogue can't evade that spell even though the rules say you can because it's too unrealistic.  The rest of the group:  Gosh, we kind of find it unrealistic to see a guy chant some words and have a fireball appear from his fingertips.

 

Why yes, the DM did get annoyed with us about that.  ;D

 

To me, that's kind of the point of fantasy, though.  Unrealistic, magical stuff. 

 

Sci fi, on the other hand, whilst unrealistic has an air of possibility about it.  If our technology advanced enough, we might be able to one day do this.

 

Both are awesome for different reasons.

I'm enjoying the discussion as well.

But oohhh, that was one of my pet peeves in my D'n'D days. I blame Sanderson and Avatar and Jim Butcher for making me twitch uncontrollably whenever the weird fantasy or science-fiction laws laid down are subverted, and their subversion is not a shocking twist.

I'm willing to take dragons and magic, particularly if they're a logical, functioning system, at face value. I can roll with it. It's when the things that should be realistic, like basic gravity, that you really can't ride a horse like that without rest without hurting the poor thing, that age-old prejudices are casually discarded because the protagonists are just that convincing...those ones throw me. Along with breaking the rules you've already established. I'm still irritated whenever a mage teleports goes up in a puff of smoke and very quickly sprints to the other side of the room in Dragon Age.   Really, we should get at least one Blight every time some jackass does that.

Unless you're Sanderson and you drop tons of hints that the fantasy world's gravity is seventy percent of Earth's.  Then you get a gold star.

Or if the story is, by its nature, hammy and unrepentantly unrealistic. Then I'm willing to shrug it off. Dragon Age has ham and cheese in abundance, sure, but it tends to be taken more seriously than, say, Warhammer 40K, from what I know of it. I guess I see it as 'reality, if reality had dragons and had developed in a world with these oddities thrown in'.

That being said, one of my other pet peeves were DM's fudging the rules like that to fit to their vision of it being realistic. (Yes, I irritated myself as DM quite often.  )

[Rabbitonfire]

Talking about Solas' junk isn't really a big deal. I'm sure you oldies remember the sex doll even though talking about his junk led to it at the time.

[Caddius]

Um.

So.

Apparently the Claws of Dumat are present in the Primeval Thaig. According to the Primeval Thaig's wiki entry.

Anyone have any idea what to make of that?

[nikki-tikki]

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I was reading your book blog! 

[dawnstone]

Sexy art or fic is great, and is usually tagged and spoilered so people can make a decision on if they want to view it or not. But if folks come by here and see a deep discussion on the genitals of a video game character and each person's headcanon involving size and appearance, it would be a bit weird.

 

But I totally get behind the "unused tea cup" variety of Solas junk.

I always think of Mallrats when fannish convo tends in that direction, discussing whether Superman would kill Lois if they had sex or whatever. I don't have a problem with such discussion, but I get this is a general forum and not the kinkmeme, or even a Solasmancer thread.

 

I think it's funny that the game reflects real life that way though - where people in forced proximity talk about sexual stuff and some of the characters are really uncomfortable with it - like Cassandra and Solas. Solas gives Blackwall a hard time for asking about spirit sex, but he understands that it's something someone could be curious about (even if he thinks it's puerile and offensive, and only says as much as he feels comfortable saying), and there's a conversation where if Solas is around when Bull and Sera talk about both having tapped the Inquisitor, he outright complains.

[dawnstone]

 Dragon Age has ham and cheese in abundance,

Boy does it. Cheese in particular. I always wonder what kind it is. I'm partial to Brie, but a good Stilton with fruit in it is nice too.

[Giton]

i do like cheese.