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@Habits  - Possibly. We know from Morrigan that it's not easy. You have to study and mediate about the animal you want to become. Watch it carefully until you can "slip into its skin" so to speak. It may be something that came easily to him. More than others.  It felt natural. 


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@Ave - Perfect job title on that guy. Lolled.

 

@Rabbit - You don't need to.  It's the fat guy from the South Park WoW episode.



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This made me LOL.

 

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This is what I'm expecting too. I mean, obviously the way it is being framed is a long, deep, difficult dungeon into the Deep Roads with some story to go along with it. But we've had multiple Deep Roads/dwarves hints and things that have already gotten our lore senses tingling, and as JoH offered Avvar-centered storyline and location, there were many parallels and some lore bits that lead us somewhere else, as well as several elements that lead to more questions and even maybe turn some ideas we had around. So I am not going to have any real expectations built up but I'm looking forward to coming and discussing it with you all.
 

Being as it is the Deep Roads, I am going to be obligated to search every damn nook and cranny of that place... so I am also dreading it, as I know it will take a considerable amount of time.

I am really looking forward to the lore bits too. Also, I feel as if DA:I's map quests threw us a couple bones but left the main courses for later: the Avvar, the Dwarves, the Executors. I wouldn't be surprised if we had a bit of all three pop up for our DLC (well, Avvar is crossed off the list, and now probably Dwarves). 

I don't know if it's possible, but I also hope for a few more one on one cut scenes with comrades and LI's? Maybe that's asking for too much.


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Is Cole supposed to be the Huntsman (or Hunter or whatever he's called) in that comic? :lol:

 

 

Being as it is the Deep Roads, I am going to be obligated to search every damn nook and cranny of that place... so I am also dreading it, as I know it will take a considerable amount of time.

 

I have a bad habit of doing this too.


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The comic does raise a question. Why is Fen'Harel associated with the wolf ? From the lore, we know that the Elven gods can shapeshift into any creature they like. Mythal for instance, is depicted as a high dragon but she can shapeshift into giant serpents.

 

Do each Elven god pick their favorite animal form ? Or is it something else ? 

 

*snip*

 

Well, this banter with Cole seems to indicate that he likes wolves - or why he picked them as his symbol:
 

Solas: [When first encountering the Black Wolves] The Breach may have driven them mad... or perhaps a demon took command of the pack.
Cole: Do you know a lot about wolves?
Solas: I know that they are intelligent, practical creatures that small-minded fools think of as terrible beasts.

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This made me LOL.

 

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Just an opinion but when a person presents a drawing within a drawing, it's better to draw down so the viewer can see the disconnection from the setting. Glancing at the picture made me think it was a re-enactment of the story rather than a drawing. It makes Cole seem like master-tier artist because the previous panel is in the same style. 



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Being as it is the Deep Roads, I am going to be obligated to search every damn nook and cranny of that place... so I am also dreading it, as I know it will take a considerable amount of time.

I am really looking forward to the lore bits too. Also, I feel as if DA:I's map quests threw us a couple bones but left the main courses for later: the Avvar, the Dwarves, the Executors. I wouldn't be surprised if we had a bit of all three pop up for our DLC (well, Avvar is crossed off the list, and now probably Dwarves). 

I don't know if it's possible, but I also hope for a few more one on one cut scenes with comrades and LI's? Maybe that's asking for too much.

 

I am already an explorer so these sorts of things just make me crawl very very carefully, so yeah I expect this to take a while. I'm that person who talks to every NPC, searches every room, etc.

 

Give me your secrets...


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I am already an explorer so these sorts of things just make me crawl very very carefully, so yeah I expect this to take a while. I'm that person who talks to every NPC, searches every room, etc.

 

Give me your secrets...

 

Same here...


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I am already an explorer so these sorts of things just make me crawl very very carefully, so yeah I expect this to take a while. I'm that person who talks to every NPC, searches every room, etc.

 

It's a leftover habit from Zelda for me.  Though these days, I am at least capable of tamping it down for my own sanity.  Otherwise World of Warcraft would literally be a slow death.



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I wonder if this will get me a warning. Warning, silly with boobies:

 

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No, you have to write something Solas Critical to offend people here. Like listing all his faults or something. That'll rustle some girls jimmies.


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If I didn't know about Fen'Harel and could pick any spirit animal for Solas, it would be a black panther. They hunt along, they are cunning, gravel, dark and mysterious.
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No, you have to write something Solas Critical to offend people here. Like listing all his faults or something. That'll rustle some girls jimmies.

 

Let's test this statement.  :devil:

 

I don't think Solas truly loved female Lavellan. I mean, this guy is a god. He has had goddesses tying him up fighting over him. I'm sure in ancient Elvhenan, he would have tapping ancient Elven wenches and spirits alike as well. He only met and knew female Lavellan for over a year or so.

 

Then there is the fact his fear is dying alone. Thing is, he could have stayed with female Lavellan in a loving relationship and not die alone. But he didn't. Which means he has someone else, another Elven woman who satisfies his need to not be alone.

 

Then he goes on to kill one of his oldest friend, Mythal / Flemeth. All because he deems it necessary. He could very well do the same thing to female Lavellan later.

 

*activates Waking Fortress and braces for incoming shitestorm*

 

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Let's test this statement. :devil:

I don't think Solas truly loved female Lavellan. I mean, this guy is a god. He has had goddesses tying him up fighting over him. I'm sure in ancient Elvhenan, he would have tapping ancient Elven wenches and spirits alike as well. He only met and knew female Lavellan for over a year or so.

Then there is the fact his fear is dying alone. Thing is, he could have stayed with female Lavellan in a loving relationship and not die alone. But he didn't. Which means he has someone else, another Elven woman who satisfies his need to not be alone.

Then he goes on to kill one of his oldest friend, Mythal / Flemeth. All because he deems it necessary. He could very well do the same thing to female Lavellan later.

*activates Waking Fortress and braces for incoming shitestorm*

:P

You call this Solas hate? You should check out some other threads. :-)
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You call this Solas hate? You should check out some other threads. :-)

 

Solas is my favorite companion, right up there with Cole. So I can't hate him. However, that does not mean I cannot raise questions about whether he actually loved female Lavellan or whether he might consider harming / killing her if it means saving the People. The way he disposed off Flemeth in the epilogue...


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Solas is my favorite companion, right up there with Cole. So I can't hate him. However, that does not mean I cannot raise questions about whether he actually loved female Lavellan or whether he might consider harming / killing her if it means saving the People.


I was joking :)
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Solas is my favorite companion, right up there with Cole. So I can't hate him. However, that does not mean I cannot raise questions about whether he actually loved female Lavellan or whether he might consider harming / killing her if it means saving the People. The way he disposed off Flemeth in the epilogue...

 

He did love Lavellan, according to Weekes. Whether Solas would shank her in pursuit of whatever goal he has is something we'll find out eventually, I'm sure. :P

 

Actually, I hope it doesn't come down to that. It would be boring either way -- ho hum, we have to kill him now, OR yay whee, the power of LURRVV made him stop and change, etc. etc. Nah. Give us something meatier than that, plz.


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You call this Solas hate? You should check out some other threads. :-)

Yep, and totally understandable from their perspective.

 

In another platform: There is enough people that hate Solas that people on tumblr make up "Solas Positive" week every other week. Then again, tumblr is infamous for being full of offended people that it makes BSN sane. That's saying something. 

 

Here's a satire tumblr page of some of the DA characters in stereotypical tumblr blog format. My favorite is " I’m Loghain and always a slut for Ferelden."


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If I didn't know about Fen'Harel and could pick any spirit animal for Solas, it would be a black panther. They hunt along, they are cunning, gravel, dark and mysterious.

 

Hmmmm, dunno about that - aside from the fact that we don't know if those actually exist in Thedas, IMO black panthers are for characters who like to bring more attention to themselves and are more overtly nonchalant/dark/mysterious, rather than mostly unassuming and evasive.

 

And there's something to say about wolves actually being pack animals, who value teamwork and hierarchy. All wolves we encounter in DAI hunt in packs - I think that's saying something.

Some wolves becoming 'lone wolves' may mean that either that hierarchy was disturbed, the wolf wants to strike on its own, there was aggression from pack leader or wolf's family is no more, but still the fact remains that they are social animals, unlike many cats - panthers especially.

 

That Solas is an individualist and walks his own path is indisputable, but he also appears to value family bonds and teamwork, even if he lost faith in teams/organizations, which eventually become corrupted.

 

Plus, there's the whole "not wanting to die alone" thing, which also suggests that he's not as much a loner as it's assumed of him :)


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Dunno about that - aside from the fact that we don't know if those actually exist in Thedas, IMO black panthers are for characters who like to bring more attention to themselves and are more overtly nonchalant/mysterious, rather than unassuming and evasive.

And there's something to say about wolves actually being pack animals, who value teamwork and hierarchy. All wolves we encounter in Thedas hunt in packs - I think that's saying something. That some become 'lone wolves' may mean that either that hierarchy was disturbed, the wolf wants to strike on its own, there was aggression from pack leader or wolf's family is no more, but still the fact remains that they are social animals, unlike many cats - panthers especially.

That Solas is an individualist and walks his own path is indisputable, but he also appears to value family bonds and teamwork, even if he lost faith in teams/organizations, which eventually become corrupted.


Good point. It was purely headcanon and a completely random thought.
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Good point. It was purely headcanon and a completely random thought.

 

Still a good topic to discuss :) Personally I love symbolism (duh! I'm an artist - symbols and metaphors are my bread and butter) and examining it.

And the fact that given characters chose given symbols or totem animals can tell something significant about them, so that is worth investigating^^


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Why didn't I get any warning? :/  I'm always NSFW on here!  I drew Solas' BALLS back in the day and posted them here... and I'm always like "lolz penis" and I'm even drawing more.  Penises are funny, especially when they're attached to a nerd like Solas.  Lolz.

 

I'm glad you guys knew I was joking... those uptight tumblr person have me on edge...


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Yep, and totally understandable from their perspective.

 

In another platform: There is enough people that hate Solas that people on tumblr make up "Solas Positive" week every other week. Then again, tumblr is infamous for being full of offended people that it makes BSN sane. That's saying something. 

 

Here's a satire tumblr page of some of the DA characters in stereotypical tumblr blog format. My favorite is " I’m Loghain and always a slut for Ferelden."

 

Are you sure that page is satire? Looks legit to me, especially going through the blog's dash. You can usually tell quite easily when someone's trying to fake tumblr stereotypes, they way go over the top and are low on the detail, whereas the posts on the blog contain some pretty legitimate points (e.g. arguing that femHakwe/Anders or femHawke/Fenris is not homophobic - who the hell would think they were, geez).

 

Asides from Mod Loghain's description, of course, that's dead funny :lol:



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I am already an explorer so these sorts of things just make me crawl very very carefully, so yeah I expect this to take a while. I'm that person who talks to every NPC, searches every room, etc.

 

Give me your secrets...

Exactly. Me too! This is why my other half was so confused as to why I had clocked 300+ hours on my save file while he had completed the game in a few days. We even had this conversation:

Him: Are you really still playing this game?
Me: I'm a completionist, honey, I gotta do everything!
Him: I did everything! I killed all 10 dragons! I even have the achievement to prove it. Did you kill all the dragons?
Me: Of course I did! I also did every single quest.
Him: ....
Me: ...You do know there's more than 10 dragons now, right?
Him: .....

Thank goodness there is a search option + the 'make it an even better search option' perk. Makes the looting and treasure hunting thing all that much easier.


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Still a good topic to discuss :) Personally I love symbolism (duh! I'm an artist - symbols and metaphors are my bread and butter) and examining it.
And the fact that given characters chose given symbols or totem animals can tell something significant about them, so that is worth investigating^^


It's very interesting and I would've loved to, I've just had a really tough day, so I can't manage serious discussion right now. But give me all the ideas you'be got! :)

Anyway... I guess I could mention Solas is a really inspiring character when I'm having a difficult time. I always remember two of his lines: "honor your mistakes" and "wisdom as its own reward".
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