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Old Man Cole was a merry old soul

and a merry old soul was he.

He called for his hat and he called for his beard,

and he called for his hidden blades three.

Every blade he had a cloak,

and a cloak of shadow had he;

Oh there's none so rare, as can compare

With Man Cole and his hidden blades three.

 

I mean, how can you not expect Cole to take Blackwall's advice to heart, and will himself to grow his own beard? It might not be as fantastic as Blackwall's yet, but it is a worthy goal for a spirit who had no prior interest in changing his appearance.  I'm sure Cole's scruff helps...someone. We just haven't figured out who yet.


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Ah, okay, manchild-Cole is horrible. Nope...nope nope nope nope nope. *runs away covering her eyes with her hands and then promptly falls over a cliff edge*


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Agreed.  I'd be 100% down with my Lavellan grabbing his soul wisp if he dies and becoming the new Dread Wolf, but I think I'm in the minority there  :P

 

#0.0# I would love that!

 

I mean, not that Solas would die, of course. (That would be heart-breaking!  :crying: ) But if it's anything like Flemeth described... what was it? "Mythal is as much a part of me as my heart is part of my chest"? And the way Kieran looks if Flemeth removes Urthemiel's soul from his chest, and he asks, "No more dreams?" But then when you talk to him later, he admits that he feels lonely without it. Almost like it was a companion to him.

 

It kind of sounds like, if you have the soul of a God, you're still mostly you, but there's still a part of them that blends with you, but there's still a part of them that is slightly apart resides close to your heart, but parts of you both still blend together so you don't feel like you're alone. Almost like the Greek myth, about how all humans were once born with two heads, four arms, four legs, and two hearts, and they were so peaceful and happy together that the gods grew jealous of their love and tore them apart so now all humans have only one head, one heart, two arms and two legs, but we always feel something is missing and are looking for our other half, our "soul mate."

 

Ah! If Solas' story has to have a sad ending and he has to die (darn you Weekes! With your "The story of Solas is not a happy one" and your "I made the Solas romance to make it more tragic"), I could live with it if it turns out that Lady Lavellan can catch his soul wisp as he dies and take it into herself, so even if he'll never truly be the same again, he also won't truly be gone and they won't truly ever be apart.

 

Ah! Now I'm picturing a beautiful painting of Lady Lavellan in the Fade, looking beautiful, soft, graceful, and ethereal, with a little wolf wisp emerging from her chest and affectionately rubbing its cheek against hers, and her smiling gently and lovingly at the action, and some kind of (cheesy) caption (in pretty cursive or italicized letters) saying something like, "I'll always hold you close to my heart."

 

Or something like that.  :blush:


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I think it makes him like an unwashed Hobo.  Partner to Hobo!SOlas mebbe? 

A tribute to most beautimous Geralt of Rivia.


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#0.0# I would love that!

 

I mean, not that Solas would die, of course. (That would be heart-breaking!  :crying: ) But if it's anything like Flemeth described... what was it? "Mythal is as much a part of me as my heart is part of my chest"? And the way Kieran looks if Flemeth removes Urthemiel's soul from his chest, and he asks, "No more dreams?" But then when you talk to him later, he admits that he feels lonely without it. Almost like it was a companion to him.

 

It kind of sounds like, if you have the soul of a God, you're still mostly you, but there's still a part of them that blends with you, but there's still a part of them that is slightly apart resides close to your heart, but parts of you both still blend together so you don't feel like you're alone. Almost like the Greek myth, about how all humans were once born with two heads, four arms, four legs, and two hearts, and they were so peaceful and happy together that the gods grew jealous of their love and tore them apart so now all humans have only one head, one heart, two arms and two legs, but we always feel something is missing and are looking for our other half, our "soul mate."

 

Ah! If Solas' story has to have a sad ending and he has to die (darn you Weekes! With your "The story of Solas is not a happy one" and your "I made the Solas romance to make it more tragic"), I could live with it if it turns out that Lady Lavellan can catch his soul wisp as he dies and take it into herself, so even if he'll never truly be the same again, he also won't truly be gone and they won't truly ever be apart.

 

Ah! Now I'm picturing a beautiful painting of Lady Lavellan in the Fade, looking beautiful, soft, graceful, and ethereal, with a little wolf wisp emerging from her chest and affectionately rubbing its cheek against hers, and her smiling gently and lovingly at the action, and some kind of (cheesy) caption (in pretty cursive or italicized letters) saying something like, "I'll always hold you close to my heart."

 

Or something like that.  :blush:

 

That just reminds me of the Viv fan art where she keeps summoning wisps that just want to be her friends.



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#0.0# I would love that!

 

I mean, not that Solas would die, of course. (That would be heart-breaking!  :crying: ) But if it's anything like Flemeth described... what was it? "Mythal is as much a part of me as my heart is part of my chest"? And the way Kieran looks if Flemeth removes Urthemiel's soul from his chest, and he asks, "No more dreams?" But then when you talk to him later, he admits that he feels lonely without it. Almost like it was a companion to him.

 

It kind of sounds like, if you have the soul of a God, you're still mostly you, but there's still a part of them that blends with you, but there's still a part of them that is slightly apart resides close to your heart, but parts of you both still blend together so you don't feel like you're alone. Almost like the Greek myth, about how all humans were once born with two heads, four arms, four legs, and two hearts, and they were so peaceful and happy together that the gods grew jealous of their love and tore them apart so now all humans have only one head, one heart, two arms and two legs, but we always feel something is missing and are looking for our other half, our "soul mate."

 

Ah! If Solas' story has to have a sad ending and he has to die (darn you Weekes! With your "The story of Solas is not a happy one" and your "I made the Solas romance to make it more tragic"), I could live with it if it turns out that Lady Lavellan can catch his soul wisp as he dies and take it into herself, so even if he'll never truly be the same again, he also won't truly be gone and they won't truly ever be apart.

 

Ah! Now I'm picturing a beautiful painting of Lady Lavellan in the Fade, looking beautiful, soft, graceful, and ethereal, with a little wolf wisp emerging from her chest and affectionately rubbing its cheek against hers, and her smiling gently and lovingly at the action, and some kind of (cheesy) caption (in pretty cursive or italicized letters) saying something like, "I'll always hold you close to my heart."

 

Or something like that.  :blush:

 

Your writing makes it sounds very romantic, but when I think about actually having Solas partially merge with Lavellan... Dunno, it just sounds weird and icky. But then again, she has the Anchor, drank from the Well, kept her vallaslin which potentially is a blood magic device submitting her will to an elven god. Add to that the envy demon and Cole, and Lavellan's head has surpassed Isabela's ladybits as the most popular hangout spot in Thedas. So, to hell with caution, let's collect them all and add another powerful magical influence to her organism :D I hope it's not like taking numerous drugs where you have to worry whether they interract with each other. 



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That just reminds me of the Viv fan art where she keeps summoning wisps that just want to be her friends.

 

I assume it's based on banter she has with Cole.

 

Cole: Do you feel spirits when you cast a spell?
Cole: Bits of them push through with your magic, tiny, a wisp of a wisp, free before falling back. They pool around you, water in a cup, defined, deafened, hearing only your song.
Cole: They want to skate, scintillate on skin. You made them. Their maker.
Vivienne: Now. I need. A bath.

 

 

edit: and another one

 

Cole: So many spirits clustering around, pressing against the Veil, calling your name.

Cole: "Vivienne! Vivienne! Look at me!"

Vivienne: I get that at court too, darling. They get used to disappointment. Courtiers always do.


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Ah! If Solas' story has to have a sad ending and he has to die (darn you Weekes! With your "The story of Solas is not a happy one" and your "I made the Solas romance to make it more tragic"), I could live with it if it turns out that Lady Lavellan can catch his soul wisp as he dies and take it into herself, so even if he'll never truly be the same again, he also won't truly be gone and they won't truly ever be apart.
 

That's an interesting idea but I still refuse to think of anything other than a happy ending for Solas and the Inquisitor...if that doesn't happen I'll be more upset than that time I carried two bottles of wine home and then dropped them just outside my house and they smashed everywhere.


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Ah, okay, manchild-Cole is horrible. Nope...nope nope nope nope nope. *runs away covering her eyes with her hands and then promptly falls over a cliff edge*

I just don't get it. Nobody babied Justice when he went through the fade birth canal. 

 

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I just don't get it. Nobody babied Justice when he went through the fade birth canal. 

 

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Hahah that was awesome. I also chuckled at your avatar picture, I like it!


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I assume it's based on banter she has with Cole.

 

Cole: Do you feel spirits when you cast a spell?
Cole: Bits of them push through with your magic, tiny, a wisp of a wisp, free before falling back. They pool around you, water in a cup, defined, deafened, hearing only your song.
Cole: They want to skate, scintillate on skin. You made them. Their maker.
Vivienne: Now. I need. A bath.

 

 

edit: and another one

 

Cole: So many spirits clustering around, pressing against the Veil, calling your name.

Cole: "Vivienne! Vivienne! Look at me!"

Vivienne: I get that at court too, darling. They get used to disappointment. Courtiers always do.

 

Yeah, it's based on that.  I'll have to see if I can find it again.  It's so cute.



#109887
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Oh, it's nothing particularly about making him a man-child, it's just a bloody awful looking beard on him. I think if Cole was going to grow a beard, he'd go all in. One day he'd be talking to Blackwall about what it's like to have a massive beard and the next day he'd appear at breakfast looking like wibbly Chuck Norris. And his beard actually *would* have the combined powers of all the spirits that came before him. There can be only one.


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What about Lavellan becoming a soul wisp? I mean, the anchor has probably changed her soul and I am  not sure Solas noticed that the Anchor remained after Corys death. Probably he will come back for it and with a romance you than have the option to give it to him freely. Even though it might not be healthy to take something away that has mingled with your soul (therefore possibly Lavellan wisp...)... I don't know if I find this super romantic or extremely overly-attached-girlfriend-forever-fused-with-your-soul weird....



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I don't know for sure what's gonna happen in tThe Descent but I really think we're gonna learn some big time lore that's going to connect the dots to the last DLC. I really think we're gonna get something of a revelation.

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Oh, it's nothing particularly about making him a man-child, it's just a bloody awful looking beard on him. I think if Cole was going to grow a beard, he'd go all in. One day he'd be talking to Blackwall about what it's like to have a massive beard and the next day he'd appear at breakfast looking like wibbly Chuck Norris. And his beard actually *would* have the combined powers of all the spirits that came before him. There can be only one.

I would love to add a few beard to cole but adding a new asset is not possible. best you could do is replace texture. oh well.

 

anyway think of it this way. When in the deep roads, do as the dwarves do. grow a beard for the occasion.


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I don't know for sure what's gonna happen in tThe Descent but I really think we're gonna learn some big time lore that's going to connect the dots to the last DLC. I really think we're gonna get something of a revelation.

 

That's the hope, though I'd be just as happy with some not-so-revealing new banter or cutscenes. Basically anything where the companions say something I haven't heard them say a dozen times before. 


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It's probably a good thing that dwarves and their lore are actually rather separated from the base game, since any revelations we find will be easier to write off as being contained and irrelevant to the main Corypheus plotline. I'm a little disappointed it's not post-game because it means whatever we find can't have an effect on the base game, but I'm also a little excited for new dwarf lore, new blight lore, and new threads that will connect to either the next DLC, or the next game.


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It's probably a good thing that dwarves and their lore are actually rather separated from the base game, since any revelations we find will be easier to write off as being contained and irrelevant to the main Corypheus plotline. I'm a little disappointed it's not post-game because it means whatever we find can't have an effect on the base game, but I'm also a little excited for new dwarf lore, new blight lore, and new threads that will connect to either the next DLC, or the next game.

I'm also excited for the new lore but yeah.. I wouldn't mind events being post-game where solas and possibly cassandra is gone. A simple conversation of how cassandra is doing in the chantry or how the search for solas is going is enough.


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That's the hope, though I'd be just as happy with some not-so-revealing new banter or cutscenes. Basically anything where the companions say something I haven't heard them say a dozen times before. 

 

^ This is the only reason i buy Bioware games. I have to have all the dialogue. Gimmie morez. I was actually trying to explain to a friend why I love gaming so much (about 95% of my friends, male & female, don't) and I eventually ended up describing it as an interactive book, were you feel like you control every aspect of the plot and watch it come to life based on your decisions. Sure, it's an illusion of control, but it's still several levels up on passively watching tv programs. 

 

So whether it has big reveals or no, as long as it's got some good character reactions, dialogue and story arc (with a nice side dish of world lore) I'll be buying it. If it's a dungeon crawl with little in the way of the aforementioned hooks, I'll give it a pass and keep my fingers crossed for some more story/character focused DLC in the future. 


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What about Lavellan becoming a soul wisp? I mean, the anchor has probably changed her soul and I am  not sure Solas noticed that the Anchor remained after Corys death. Probably he will come back for it and with a romance you than have the option to give it to him freely. Even though it might not be healthy to take something away that has mingled with your soul (therefore possibly Lavellan wisp...)... I don't know if I find this super romantic or extremely overly-attached-girlfriend-forever-fused-with-your-soul weird....

 

I'm more in the 'possibility he needs the Anchor because there's some other force(s) that are the antagonist(s) and he needs our help' camp.

 

Like, just maybe he is off trying to do whatever Solas thinks he must do and Felassan's master or Geldauran or some other blighted danger decides now is a fun time to cut loose.

 

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I am impatiently waiting for the DLC to pop up on my Origin dash. Hoping it'll appear a little early. -pouts-



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Your writing makes it sounds very romantic, but when I think about actually having Solas partially merge with Lavellan... Dunno, it just sounds weird and icky. But then again, she has the Anchor, drank from the Well, kept her vallaslin which potentially is a blood magic device submitting her will to an elven god. Add to that the envy demon and Cole, and Lavellan's head has surpassed Isabela's ladybits as the most popular hangout spot in Thedas. So, to hell with caution, let's collect them all and add another powerful magical influence to her organism :D I hope it's not like taking numerous drugs where you have to worry whether they interract with each other.


To me the whole multiple-beings-in-one-body thing can run the gamut from icky to romantic to deeply distressing depending on how it's portrayed.

I think of it like music. Straight-up posession is dissonance, followed by one voice completely overwhelming the other. The symbiotic relationships that Avvar mages can have with spirits are more like melody and harmony. And each experience of sharing a body (and potentially an identity) probably varies based on the people involved.

Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me :P
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I'm also excited for the new lore but yeah.. I wouldn't mind events being post-game where solas and possibly cassandra is gone. A simple conversation of how cassandra is doing in the chantry or how the search for solas is going is enough.

 

They're probably saving a post-game DLC for the last one.  Fans would want their choices to be acknowledged in a post-game DLC (and Bioware are well aware of this) and that would require too much in the way of extra dialouge and resouces to include in every DLC.

 

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I am impatiently waiting for the DLC to pop up on my Origin dash. Hoping it'll appear a little early. -pouts-

What time does the dlc come out? midnight at pacific standard time or something?



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What time does the dlc come out? midnight at pacific standard time or something?

 

I've heard 10am PST for Origin.   *rolls around in agony*


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