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They have been leaning towards using Codex's to tell the story more in Inquisition. Take for example, the killing of Tranquil to make the Ocularium (sp?). That was revealed behind a locked door via a codex. Going by the number of skulls out and about and in that room, hundreds of Tranquil must have been mass slaughtered. I feel that this reveal was done very little justice by being squirreled away in a corner. Think about how much more compelling/horrifying it would have been to have found out instead by catching some Venatori during the act and saving the Tranquil about to be sacrificed. Then him telling you about what they've been doing and leading you to a place where other Tranquil are being held like pigs for the slaughter. Then deciding what their fate will be.

 

That's what's really missing. In DAO and DA2 this would have been a proper quest, raising interesting points about the treatment of Tranquil and the merits of reversal. Instead it's a bit of a nothing.

 

Exactly, that is my point. What if be had read Hespith's poem in a codex? You go from an amazingly dramatic and horrifying moment to "uhm, that's creepy"



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I haven't quite finished Descent yet, as I reached the third camp and decided to go gear collecting.. I don't know why. I think I may hate myself.

 

But what I have played I have enjoyed, way more than I thought. It's preeeetty.

 

Maybe it's because no one said a damn word during JoH, but I feel like I'm getting a bit more dialogue with this DLC. Dorian has dropped a few lines, Cole had the odd one and I think Cass made a disgusted noise at one point  :P

Yeah it's not a lot, but as someone who got hit with the banter bug really badly, I have played the majority of DAI in silence. One damn line is already more than I've had before. 

Also Dorian's ME joke made me smile and I've enjoyed the new companions. I kinda missed going somewhere dwarven in the main game. I may hate the Deep Roads but I always liked visiting Orzammar in DAO.

 

I didn't like JoH. I've been kidding myself into saying I do because I don't want to be that person on the BSN who hates everything. We have too many of those. 

It had good moments but I'm sick to death of open world exploration and THOSE DAMN SPIDERS DROVE ME TO INSANITY. Ahem. But I honestly didn't care about the previous Inquisitor and the story never gave me a reason to. The Avaar were great to meet but the fact that their spoils came in a separate item pack made me less interested  <_< aaand fighting a dragon is old news by this point. Meh.

The only good thing to come out of JoH is that ability. Total lifesaver against a certain ranged enemy in the uncharted depths of Descent. Screw those guys.

 

But I'm enjoying Descent enough to want to bring my Solasmancing quizzy through it. This means I'll have to try JoH again because I abandoned her during it when I couldn't face playing it. I'm too much of a completionist to quit it and jump straight to Descent instead. 

 

 

I still want my companion heavy DLC though :P I know people keep saying we won't get that because of all 'THE VARIABLES'. But I dunno. ME3 citadel came with more cast and more romance choices thrown in to it. The only big variable DAI has over that is the race of the Quizzy - which is what everyone keeps blaming for the lack of companion/story. But I am not at all convinced that a fixed human protagonist would have been any different to picking one as they are now. 



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Art post again.  :ph34r:

 

Solavellan family.  ^_^

 

Fen'Harel and the Dread Puppy (a.k.a. his daughter). So cute!  :wub:

 

Tarot card of Lavellan and the Dread Wolf.

 

Saarebas.

 

Preferred party members. (I don't remember if this was shared here before but oh well.)

 

 

EDIT: Forgot to include this.

 

Only cool guys walk away from rift explosions. :lol:


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Thoughts? I mostly wrote this down because it is actually really helping process the feels I have lol. But I would be interested to see if anyone else thought this would work.



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Oh god the Dread Puppy one is absurdly cute. :wub:



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lol..not Solas but funny Deep Roads comic

http://tamarandom.de...Night-553384628


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lol..not Solas but funny Deep Roads comic

http://tamarandom.de...Night-553384628

 

That made me laugh! :lol:


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Finally got the last mug and last three gears, so I am officially done with Descent. Now the long wait for the next DLC... :unsure:

 

And for those wondering if/how they would have shards in the Deep Roads... gears. They're ******* gears. Some of which no person in their right mind would ever find because they are located in truly absurd places. When they have to put supply caches nearby, and not because of combat, that tells you something.

 

Where is the last muuuuuug?!  

 

I really shouldn't pick up DLC until people have time to make walkthrough maps with all the collectibles.  I managed to snag all the gears, but my OCD is going to keep me combing the place until I find the blasted thing.   :pinched:



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After playing the new DLC and reading the new info, I can't be the only one who thought
 

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Thoughts? I mostly wrote this down because it is actually really helping process the feels I have lol. But I would be interested to see if anyone else thought this would work.


You know, reading what you've written, I think having a final, post-game DLC on Solas could provide some closure.

Your quizzy can track him down, find out who he is, shout at him, maybe have an optional romance scene, and then be faced with a choice: work together - and thus disappear with him into the fade together whilst leaving everything behind, or refuse.

 

I imagine if your Inquisitor refuses, Solas will likely kill them. Like a reverse murder-knife.

 

Extreme, I know, I just can't see the Inquisition approving of Solas' plans - which could possibly be quite radical, and might alter the shape of the world together (say, by removing the veil). Even if the Inquisitor doesn't mind, I can't see a group of fervent andrastians going along with some wacky elven deity's plan. Solas can't risk having the Inquisition tracking him down for serious. So the solution is simple: kill the Inquisitor, leave the group in disarray, watch it splinter and break apart without their purpose from before (seal the breach and track down cory), or the person who led them afterwards. Solas is safe to continue his work, as for the very few people who knew him under than name, tracking him down is the least of their problems.

 

It'd be a hell of a twist. I just hope the 'hunting' part of Wolf Hunt is more involved and difficult than Witch Hunt.


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Just a friendly reminder to put large blocks of texts under spoiler tags. Same thing with large pictures/lots of gifs/ etc.

 

Be mindful of the mobile folks and the data.

 

Quick How to on spoiler tags:

 

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YOUR STUFFF

 

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(minus the " . " in the 2nd tag

 

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You know, reading what you've written, I think having a final, post-game DLC on Solas could provide some closure.

Your quizzy can track him down, find out who he is, shout at him, maybe have an optional romance scene, and then be faced with a choice: work together - and thus disappear with him into the fade together whilst leaving everything behind, or refuse.

 

I imagine if your Inquisitor refuses, Solas will likely kill them. Like a reverse murder-knife.

 

Extreme, I know, I just can't see the Inquisition approving of Solas' plans - which could possibly be quite radical, and might alter the shape of the world together (say, by removing the veil). Even if the Inquisitor doesn't mind, I can't see a group of fervent andrastians going along with some wacky elven deity's plan. Solas can't risk having the Inquisition tracking him down for serious. So the solution is simple: kill the Inquisitor, leave the group in disarray, watch it splinter and break apart without their purpose from before (seal the breach and track down cory), or the person who led them afterwards. Solas is safe to continue his work, as for the very few people who knew him under than name, tracking him down is the least of their problems.

 

It'd be a hell of a twist. I just hope the 'hunting' part of Wolf Hunt is more involved and difficult than Witch Hunt.

 

I think there's meaning in the fact that, unlike with Anders, we can never run away with Solas. We could have been given the choice to flee with him at the end of the game. For example, depending on whether inky is an elf, romanced him, allied with the sentinels, he could have said, "No matter what happens next, what we have is real. Will you come with me, vhenan?" I even remember reading somewhere that originally they planned to have a version of the final scene with Flemeth where inky was present, so joining him might have been an option at first. That we ultimately can't, tells me there is something in his mission that fundamentally goes against, and might even threaten, the Inquisitor, might reshape the world entirely, as you suggest. Or it might be a suicide mission or requiring some other form of self-sacrifice where it is impossible that Solas will complete it and be with Lavellan at the same time. 

 

Still, I would appreciate some closure, some parting words (kisses? blows?) between these two. 

 

And now, all seriousness aside, here's how I think the Wolf Hunt DLC will go if it's anything like the Descent DLC:

 

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Where is the last muuuuuug?!  

 

 

The last one I needed was hidden behind crates in the room with

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@Uirebhiril

 

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And now, all seriousness aside, here's how I think the Wolf Hunt DLC will go if it's anything like the Descent DLC:

 

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You missed the part where all of your companions are completely silent and have absolutely NO COMMENTS whilst Solas gives an hour-long lecture on why everything they ever thought was true turns out to be completely wrong.

 

I do think though that Solas would probably only speak to the Inquisitor alone. Could you imagine Sera listening politely whilst Solas carefully explains that he is indeed the Dread Wolf, Fen'Harel? She'd punch his lights out and call him a demon. Total mood kill, right? (Worth it, though).


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You missed the part where all of your companions are completely silent and have absolutely NO COMMENTS whilst Solas gives an hour-long lecture on why everything they ever thought was true turns out to be completely wrong.

 

I do think though that Solas would probably only speak to the Inquisitor alone. Could you imagine Sera listening politely whilst Solas carefully explains that he is indeed the Dread Wolf, Fen'Harel? She'd punch his lights out and call him a demon. Total mood kill, right? (Worth it, though).

 

Well, of course Lavellan would be the only one raising her hand and asking questions. There's got to be a reason she's the teacher's pet :D

 

If Sera doesn't pay attention and disrupts the lesson, IQ asks her to leave the classroom. F in fade studies and elven history, Sera. :P

 

Or Solas and Lavellan could be alone. But private lessons would cost 100 shards  :devil:


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Or Solas and Lavellan could be alone. But private lessons would cost 100 shards  :devil:

 

Don't give them ideas!



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Uh... I KNEW something wrong will happen if I try to install Windows 10. Decided to update today, already set everything - I try to open DAI.... and nothing. It just doesn't work. Repairing didn't work. Annoyingly, it seems to be the ONLY game from my Origin library that's broken :/ And I'm not using any mods or anything. Played Descent with no crashes or annoying glitches...

 

Re-downloading it right now. Will take hours with my Internet, but hopefully it'll fix things.



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The last one I needed was hidden behind crates in the room with

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It turns out I missed the one

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 Thank you, though!



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It turns out I missed the one

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 Thank you, though!

 

Well, it helped someone at least. :lol: That's what counts.

 

Was I the only one that liked the "war table in the Deep Roads" thing? I love how I didn't have to pop back to Skyhold to get things moving there. Or to sell things. Or to craft things. Certainly helped with the immersion of the moment, but I gather some people hate the war table, period.

 

...I did have to go back there to tint my new armor, because it looked terrible. And what is up with ugly DLC armor? Some of the stuff you find looks like baggy cover-alls that someone glued rivets to. Ugh.


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Well, it helped someone at least. :lol: That's what counts.

 

Was I the only one that liked the "war table in the Deep Roads" thing? I love how I didn't have to pop back to Skyhold to get things moving there. Or to sell things. Or to craft things. Certainly helped with the immersion of the moment, but I gather some people hate the war table, period.

 

...I did have to go back there to tint my new armor, because it looked terrible. And what is up with ugly DLC armor? Some of the stuff you find looks like baggy cover-alls that someone glued rivets to. Ugh.

 

I picked up a rogue armor as loot and equipped it on Cole. It looked like he was wearing a bulky space-suit. Almost died laughing and unequipped it. Those are my people! I'll sacrifice slightly superior specs to make sure they always look their best. 


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I still have one mug left to find, aaand four of those damn gears. I gave up looking  :lol:  I don't need them.... I can survive without searching out all the things...and falling off all the things.

 

I decided to just go on ahead and finish it. All the Descent threads around here say the boss is easy. I clearly suck because I had a bad time with it. Although that may be my fault for :

1 - constantly leaping shot-ing off the platform  :mellow:

2- being determined to keep Cole on my team. The boss kept knocking him down, Dorian kept bringing him back and the the boss would instantly slap him down again  :rolleyes:

 

Still really enjoyed the DLC though. Even with all the questions it brought up. It made me all nostalgic for the early days of Inquisition when a lot of people figured this story out in their crazy theories. 

Also this, this made it all worthwhile: 

 

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Now I need to get my Solasmancer through JoH so she can go Deep Roading as well. 


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I still have one mug left to find, aaand four of those damn gears. I gave up looking   :lol:  I don't need them.... I can survive without searching out all the things...and falling off all the things.

 

I decided to just go on ahead and finish it. All the Descent threads around here say the boss is easy. I clearly suck because I had a bad time with it. Although that may be my fault for :

1 - constantly leaping shot-ing off the platform   :mellow:

2- being determined to keep Cole on my team. The boss kept knocking him down, Dorian kept bringing him back and the the boss would instantly slap him down again   :rolleyes:

 

I didn't think it was easy, but I suck at battles. I was at level 27 and playing on casual, and it took me 3 tries to beat it. It wasn't until I realized

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If anyone has any suggestions how I could do better, please help! I want to play through it again with my female human warrior pre-end game, but I don't know if I can get her through the final fight. 



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I didn't think it was easy, but I suck at battles. I was at level 27 and playing on casual, and it took me 3 tries to beat it. It wasn't until I realized

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If anyone has any suggestions how I could do better, please help! I want to play through it again with my female human warrior pre-end game, but I don't know if I can get her through the final fight. 

 

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Hrmm...strange...(in regards to final boss fight in Decent)

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I didn't think it was easy, but I suck at battles. I was at level 27 and playing on casual, and it took me 3 tries to beat it. It wasn't until I realized

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If anyone has any suggestions how I could do better, please help! I want to play through it again with my female human warrior pre-end game, but I don't know if I can get her through the final fight. 

 

I was playing on Hard mode at 27 and was too stubborn to turn down the difficulty again (I turned down from Nightmare when I played JoH because I sucked at that as well)

 

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