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[Janic99]

Hey guys..I have a problem I played the newest DLC once already but I wanted to play with Solas first. So now I was playing it through with other companions and I have this one problem that when I need to search the corpses the game crashes when the video starts I don't know why. It did not happen the first time I played  it. I did install some mods after playing it but I deleted them all and tried to repair the game. I just cannot do that. Idk what is causing this problem but it's not the mods and I also repaired the game. Everything else works perfectly. It's kinda weird. 

[Nightspirit]

Also commenting on the boss fight.

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I can't actually believe I managed to kill the thing on the first try. I was level 17 and playing on normal, but all my party members died really soon. Curious to see how far I could go before I die, I just ran around in circles, hitting the guardian with walking bomb and fire mine. It died.

This gave me Legacy flashbacks, where I was also unable to keep my party members alive and I had to run around in circles around Cory. It took forever.

Come to think of it, running around in circles has become my main battle strategy. Extra benefits when fallen party members wake up, because I ran too far.

It is my greatest shame.

[coldwetn0se]

I was playing on Hard mode at 27 and was too stubborn to turn down the difficulty again (I turned down from Nightmare when I played JoH because I sucked at that as well)
 

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I was reading the thread about this boss in the spoiler section thread and people were saying it was best to aim for the heart with ranged characters. I didn't realise I could aim there. My Quizzy is a archer and just ran around in circles trying to avoid getting hit and doing the heavy damage at random. Cass managed to be right up close to it the whole time and never got knocked down because she's just a crazy tank. I had her wearing some armour I found in the deep roads and equipped that weapon you get for finding the Warden's cache in the Thaig which came with +5 guard on hit. So that kept her going. Dorian somehow kept resurrecting himself whenever he did not move from the pillars and got knocked down so I just left him to it. Cole.. just lay there xD. It's impossible to run up and revive them when they go down next to those tentacles   so in one run when everyone but my quizzy got knocked down right by the tentacles I just reloaded. 
 
I'm not looking too forward to bringing my Solasmancer along. She's a knight enchancer which normally makes her invincible but I don't fancy her chances going up close to that thing. I guess it's down to who you bring in your party. She usually runs with Solas, Varric and Blackwall. Blackwall will possibly stay alive because that's what he does and I may just have to play as Varric and make sure I have Bianca as pimped out as possible so he can do all the heavy lifting while everyone else get's slapped around.
 
Oh, and healing mist and regen potions are a must. I lobbed a few of them around to help and the focus abilities are useful as well. Apparently the mark of the rift one does well against it but I didn't have that equipped because I tend to use the artificer one instead (it usually gives me very quick kills. But not for this guy.)
 
But keeping your team alive is something of a challenge. Ranged seems best for survival but no one moves when your inquisitor starts yelling at them to avoid it's ground spike attacks and that takes them down as fast as the melee characters with those tentacles. Bah. But if you are playing a warrior, I'd say it's a good idea to bring an archer with you, and a mage (possibly one with lightning attacks as I think it was weak to those, maybe.)And get them to focus on the heart while you focus on making sure they stay standing. 
 
Just don't bring Cole   I gave him such good equipment that he was battlecharging his way through the hoards. But 10 seconds into that boss battle and he's down and out. Rubbish.
 
 

Okay, I am having a bout of dementia...

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I completely forgot, I took Solas OUT right before heading to final level. DUH! I replaced him with Vivienne. (I chose her because she already was fully stacked with potions, and I was out of Elfroot )

You will do FINE with KE. Viv never went down. Well, she might have been "knocked down", but not knocked out

Hrmm...maybe "I" was smoking all the elfroot. Can't believe I forgot about switching out Solas. Needless to say, it still did go fast, once all of us (minus the knocked out Varric) were right next to the heart, hacking away. My Cadash DD, Bull 2hd, and Viv with SB.

[Janic99]

I was playing on Hard mode at 27 and was too stubborn to turn down the difficulty again (I turned down from Nightmare when I played JoH because I sucked at that as well)

 

Spoiler

I was reading the thread about this boss in the spoiler section thread and people were saying it was best to aim for the heart with ranged characters. I didn't realise I could aim there. My Quizzy is a archer and just ran around in circles trying to avoid getting hit and doing the heavy damage at random. Cass managed to be right up close to it the whole time and never got knocked down because she's just a crazy tank. I had her wearing some armour I found in the deep roads and equipped that weapon you get for finding the Warden's cache in the Thaig which came with +5 guard on hit. So that kept her going. Dorian somehow kept resurrecting himself whenever he did not move from the pillars and got knocked down so I just left him to it. Cole.. just lay there xD. It's impossible to run up and revive them when they go down next to those tentacles   so in one run when everyone but my quizzy got knocked down right by the tentacles I just reloaded. 

 

I'm not looking too forward to bringing my Solasmancer along. She's a knight enchancer which normally makes her invincible but I don't fancy her chances going up close to that thing. I guess it's down to who you bring in your party. She usually runs with Solas, Varric and Blackwall. Blackwall will possibly stay alive because that's what he does and I may just have to play as Varric and make sure I have Bianca as pimped out as possible so he can do all the heavy lifting while everyone else get's slapped around.

 

Oh, and healing mist and regen potions are a must. I lobbed a few of them around to help and the focus abilities are useful as well. Apparently the mark of the rift one does well against it but I didn't have that equipped because I tend to use the artificer one instead (it usually gives me very quick kills. But not for this guy.)

 

But keeping your team alive is something of a challenge. Ranged seems best for survival but no one moves when your inquisitor starts yelling at them to avoid it's ground spike attacks and that takes them down as fast as the melee characters with those tentacles. Bah. But if you are playing a warrior, I'd say it's a good idea to bring an archer with you, and a mage (possibly one with lightning attacks as I think it was weak to those, maybe.)And get them to focus on the heart while you focus on making sure they stay standing. 

 

Just don't bring Cole   I gave him such good equipment that he was battlecharging his way through the hoards. But 10 seconds into that boss battle and he's down and out. Rubbish.

 

 

 

oh gosh. I am playing easy and I had hard time staying alive... LOL XD I feel that I suck right now... 

[drosophila]

Thank you all for the feedback! TBH, until recently my attitude about battles was, "Get everyone the best gear, play on easy, and cast several offensive spells in a steady cycle until the enemy dies and I can get back to the story." It wasn't until I've replayed the story several times that I focused on battles and realized, "Hey, reading those description in the skill tree and thinking about them might help." So, I'm learning a lot from this

[Elessara]

I went in at lvl 27 .. both times I played through.  Dang, the money you get is real.  I think I walked out with about 600k gold ... yes six hundred thousand.  Which is about 6 times as much as I got playing the entire base game.

 

Also, spoilers under tag

 

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I can't help but think we'll see Valta again, either in the next game or later.  And possibly Renn as well, since that whole Cry in the Dark expedition quest.

 

Huge lore implications on all of this.

 

Also, I'm actually rather glad to see something NOT connected to the Fade.  I mean, yeah sure it has lyrium but ... dwarves don't dream and have no connection to the Fade, kind of makes me think the Titan doesn't have a connection to the Fade either.  I don't know, it's just nice to see something different.

 

 

 

So ... when's the next DLC coming out?  (had to be said!)  ;D

[Lunapur]

Boss fight

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I was playing hard on lvl 27 rogue tempest daggers no mods and i did not find it hard at all as for the boss fight i targeted everyone on a small cluster and once that was gone that was it i did not get the blue circles if u kill the arms or what they'r called(saw it on stream only) it only gets worse from what i saw:)

As for the crash part Janic u need to change the number in your package.mft from 10 to 11 so u can reload the save if u had mods and play the cutscene,after that u can remerge your mods again and play modded.You'll not have any other cutscenes problems only that one.The downside in playing with mods is that u cant touch any crafting,potions tables as it just freezes:( only the small war table and the shop it's working:)Just make sure u don't use your special potions,only were is most needed.Hope this helps:)

 

Sry forgot spoiler tag:(

[Uirebhiril]

Wait...

 

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Those rock pillars jutting up from the platform didn't happen for everyone? They were the bane of my party's existence since everyone stood around despite the Inquisitor yelling to keep moving. They all died to those stupid things. I had everyone target a lyrium cluster and they would eventually decide to attack something else. But I got the job done despite their corpses cooling through the battle. Jerks.

[Renmiri1]

I still have one mug left to find, aaand four of those damn gears. I gave up looking    I don't need them.... I can survive without searching out all the things...and falling off all the things.

 

I decided to just go on ahead and finish it. All the Descent threads around here say the boss is easy. I clearly suck because I had a bad time with it. Although that may be my fault for :

1 - constantly leaping shot-ing off the platform 

2- being determined to keep Cole on my team. The boss kept knocking him down, Dorian kept bringing him back and the the boss would instantly slap him down again 

 

Still really enjoyed the DLC though. Even with all the questions it brought up. It made me all nostalgic for the early days of Inquisition when a lot of people figured this story out in their crazy theories. 

Also this, this made it all worthwhile: 

 

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NUG KING!

 

 

Now I need to get my Solasmancer through JoH so she can go Deep Roading as well. 

Awww

 

It does seem like the monsters have a thing against Cole. Ogre Alpha used him as a damn human sized maraca, holding it in his hand and shaking it  

[Renmiri1]

Also commenting on the boss fight.

Spoiler

I can't actually believe I managed to kill the thing on the first try. I was level 17 and playing on normal, but all my party members died really soon. Curious to see how far I could go before I die, I just ran around in circles, hitting the guardian with walking bomb and fire mine. It died.

This gave me Legacy flashbacks, where I was also unable to keep my party members alive and I had to run around in circles around Cory. It took forever.

Come to think of it, running around in circles has become my main battle strategy. Extra benefits when fallen party members wake up, because I ran too far.

It is my greatest shame.

No shame, this is how I beat the Arishok and Cory on DA2

[Avejajed]

I think there would be a... well not an issue exactly, but a problem if, lets say, there was a Solas DLC where we had to make a choice because ultimately whatever we choose wouldnt have much payoff. If there is another game, in two years or whatever, then they have to have "generally" the same world state at the beginning, so even though what may change is 'solas dead', 'solas alive' 'with solas', or 'without solas' the effect of what we choose would have to more or less be the same.

The game has to generally end the same way for everyone, you know? I mean not every choice. But anything that would effect the world as a whole.

[Avejajed]

No shame, this is how I beat the Arishok and Cory on DA2

The cory fight can blow me.

[Alyka]

If we do get a Solas DLC or find out what he's up to, I would like to at least have 2 lines from Varric;

"Oh SH!T!"  and   "Dammit Chuckles!!!    "    (Assuming that Solas does something which has dire consequences)

[S.W.]

I had more problem with the two ogres AND the emissary alpha with no health pots and not realising there was a supply crate in the next room :\ Dorian and Bull just kept being pulverised as ogre fodder whilst Sera and I would shoot at random genlocks from fifty meters away until my other companions woke up again. I have no excuse - I was about level 26 on normal difficulty. I'm just a bad gamer, haha.

 

I found the guardian fight pretty easy - always have a barrier up, stay close to the edges (I couldn't be assed to kill all of the rock tentacles), dodge when you can, and then wear down the health of the lyrium clusters slowly but surely.

[NightSymphony]

Tiny art break

 

It's so peaceful (animated)

http://norroendyrd.d...ceful-553442265

 

Papa Solas

http://kimikoyukicha...Batch-553523126

[drosophila]

I had more problem with the two ogres AND the emissary alpha with no health pots and not realising there was a supply crate in the next room :\ Dorian and Bull just kept being pulverised as ogre fodder whilst Sera and I would shoot at random genlocks from fifty meters away until my other companions woke up again. I have no excuse - I was about level 26 on normal difficulty. I'm just a bad gamer, haha.

 

I found the guardian fight pretty easy - always have a barrier up, stay close to the edges (I couldn't be assed to kill all of the rock tentacles), dodge when you can, and then wear down the health of the lyrium clusters slowly but surely.

 

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The emissary alpha was tough but enjoyable. The supply crates were my lifeline and I was always watching out for having to dispell that fire spell he would try to cast on the companions. That was enough to beat him. It felt epic with the music and having to fight through the darkspawn waves and the ogre alphas just to get to that final fight. (It wouldn't let me save just before I get to the ogre alphas!) Reclaiming that thaig reminded me of playing "In Your Heart Shall Burn", I was moved and really into it. At that time, my expectations for the DLC were still pretty high.

 

The Guardian was just frustrating. There's something in how it kept hitting Lavellan with his tentacles that just drove me crazy, I wanted to physically punch him myself. Also, I hated having to run when the ground started cracking.

[BreBoo]

Not sure if this is considered NSFW, but it's hilarious!

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[Sable Rhapsody]

Just finished the DLC.  What the actual triple f***.

 

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Some disjointed thoughts:

 

• Played it before the endgame to drag Solas around, but once again, I think I prefer it as post-game.  Quizzy's hilariously casual attitude toward world-shattering revelations makes a lot more sense if she's already slain one would-be god, slept with the Dread Wolf, and helped rebirth Hakkon Wintersbreath
• All the tinfoil hat Titan theorists, crazy hats off to you!
• From the level design in Descent, and in DA:I overall, I have the feeling that BioWare is trying to go for more of the Bethesda or Deus Ex visual storytelling thing.  It's...not quite working for me.  Bethesda piques my interest in a location by making it look interesting (ie; a weird shrine that fits dragon masks), then slowly gives me lore tidbits as I explore.  Sometimes, like in Jaws, DA:I does just that.  Most of the time, it hands me a bunch of disjointed things to collect via journal, then pours a metric f***ton of lore down my throat.  One approach definitely works better than the other ><
• Now that I've finished it, Valta and the Titan absolutely smack of Legacy-style DLC to me, setting up DA4's plotline.  Which...I don't like.  The essential, core elements of the main plotline shouldn't have their origins in DLC.
• Where's the option to join Valta, especially if you're a dwarf?  You've got the crazy glowing hand, she's talking to Titans, maybe the two of you together can start working on whatever broke Thedas in the first place!  Or break something else in the attempt 

 

I liked the lore, and it was a beautiful dungeon.  But...design-wise, I think I much preferred the gameplay and storytelling in Jaws of Hakkon.  I like my lore at a nice, steady drip 

[Sable Rhapsody]

2- being determined to keep Cole on my team. The boss kept knocking him down, Dorian kept bringing him back and the the boss would instantly slap him down again  . 

 

I love sweet cinnamon roll, I do.  And I would never respec him into bows just for mechanics; stabbing is his thing!  But he's not allowed on the team anymore without guard-on-hit daggers 

[midnight tea]

I love sweet cinnamon roll, I do.  And I would never respec him into bows just for mechanics; stabbing is his thing!  But he's not allowed on the team anymore without guard-on-hit daggers 

 

Aside from guard-on-hit weapons or armor, I suggest Walking Fortress for a few seconds of invulnerability every now and then, and dropping caltrops for more DPS.

[drosophila]

Just finished the DLC.  What the actual triple f***.

 

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Some disjointed thoughts:

 

• Played it before the endgame to drag Solas around, but once again, I think I prefer it as post-game.  Quizzy's hilariously casual attitude toward world-shattering revelations makes a lot more sense if she's already slain one would-be god, slept with the Dread Wolf, and helped rebirth Hakkon Wintersbreath

 

 

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I was not very happy to play it post-game at frist, but I really like how it turned out. The voice acting and witty dialogue choices made inky sound very seasoned. I definitely felt like she had a "Been there, done that." attitude towards everything. I also imagined how the whole time she secretly missed Solas and kept thinking what he would say, had he been there. It felt sad and dramatic, and much more emotional than the alternative, which is Solas being there and not saying anything the whole time. (Yes, I know he would risk revealing himself. He can just talk about other things. The pretty caverns, the ugly darkspawn, frilly cakes, anything!)

 

 

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• Where's the option to join Valta, especially if you're a dwarf?  You've got the crazy glowing hand, she's talking to Titans, maybe the two of you together can start working on whatever broke Thedas in the first place!  Or break something else in the attempt 

 

 

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Where's the option to ally with the Sha-Brytol, try to talk to them, ask for permission to go inside the titan, really anything but just invading and killing everyone on sight? My Lavellan would never act like this. She went out of her way not to hurt the sentinels and preserve as much has possible at the Temple of Mythal, but when she goes inside the titan I have no other option but to have her raid the place. She could've at least expressed some regret over the unnecessary bloodshed, but the only person who seemed to care was Valta.

[drosophila]

And I would never respec him into bows just for mechanics; stabbing is his thing!

 

Cole with a bow? Only over my dead and triple-necromanced body!

[midnight tea]

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• Now that I've finished it, Valta and the Titan absolutely smack of Legacy-style DLC to me, setting up DA4's plotline.  Which...I don't like.  The essential, core elements of the main plotline shouldn't have their origins in DLC.

 

 

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Isn't it kind of DA tradition at this point? And while I think Valta/Titans might be important, I'm not sure if it's setting essential stuff for DA4 - I have my doubts it will be dwarf-related, I think however we should be prepared to learn more ancient mysteries of Thedas and how dwarves and Titans fit into this.

 

 

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• Where's the option to join Valta, especially if you're a dwarf?  You've got the crazy glowing hand, she's talking to Titans, maybe the two of you together can start working on whatever broke Thedas in the first place!  Or break something else in the attempt  

 

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I actually kind of liked that this DLC wasn't all about Inky, Fade and Anchor specifically, although whether there's some untold connection is anyone's guess at this point.

 

I still can't decide whether the Titan basically invited the party (we can't access the Titan later, the entrance is sealed), so we can bring Valta inside and summoning the Guardian was basically it saying "You brought one of my children, thanks - now f*** off!"...or was it some sort of "test of the mettle" and after Guardian's ass was kicked (Valta does say something that amounts to 'you helped calm it down') the Titan's let Quizzy go back on he surface to continue his/her heroic (destined?) deeds.... which, now I think about it is kinda annoying, if it turns out that the Herald might as well be destiny's errand boy/girl - doing important stuff and bringing important people to place they're destined to do something, but ultimately not necessarily knowing either the cause or the end goal to all of this :/

[Sable Rhapsody]

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Where's the option to ally with the Sha-Brytol, try to talk to them, ask for permission to go inside the titan, really anything but just invading and killing everyone on sight? My Lavellan would never act like this. She went out of her way not to hurt the sentinels and preserve as much has possible at the Temple of Mythal, but when she goes inside the titan I have no other option but to have her raid the place. She could've at least expressed some regret over the unnecessary bloodshed, but the only person who seemed to care was Valta.

 

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To be entirely fair, the Sha-Brytol were not keen on talking.  If the elven sentinels had only growled at you and never stopped to parley, quizzy probably would have murdered them too.  The lyrium seems to strip the Sha-Brytol of independent thought and action beyond an instinct to protect the titan, which leads into my next point.

 

So I just had an awful thought.

 

Spoiler

I was listening to DanaDuchy's banter compilation and came across this line of Cole's, talking about the Bastion of the Pure:

 

Cole: It's singing.  A they that's an it that's asleep...but still making music.

 

And I was also reading through all the spoilered lore posts, particularly Habits Honeypot's on how compulsion is a huge theme in the Dragon Age universe.  And I started thinking...does Cole's description of the lyrium song sound horribly similar to Reaper indoctrination to anyone else?  His words pretty much describe the derelict Reaper in ME2.

 

I'm not saying it's a one-to-one comparison between indoctrination and the lyrium song, but they do seem to have similar story purposes of compelling an irreversible change in thinking and behavior.  Red lyrium is blighted, and its "song" inevitably drives people insane.  The Sha-Brytol are constantly exposed to blue lyrium, and they don't die, but they also seem a lot more like Reaper husks than people.  Even in the short term, normal lyrium can be dangerous: lyrium-addling in dwarves, insanity and death in mages.

 

So...maybe whatever broke the world wasn't the loss of lyrium, but the use of it?  What if it's really not meant to be used by mortals, and it also has cumulative effects over generations?  It may have stripped the dwarves of their magic, the elves of their immortality.  It might even subtly alter the behavior of people like mages and templars who are frequently exposed to it, in ways beyond the usual dangers.

 

Also, not sure if that made sense at all  

 

[midnight tea]

Spoiler

Where's the option to ally with the Sha-Brytol, try to talk to them, ask for permission to go inside the titan, really anything but just invading and killing everyone on sight? My Lavellan would never act like this. She went out of her way not to hurt the sentinels and preserve as much has possible at the Temple of Mythal, but when she goes inside the titan I have no other option but to have her raid the place. She could've at least expressed some regret over the unnecessary bloodshed, but the only person who seemed to care was Valta.

 

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The Sha-Brytol apparently are neither as welcoming or eager to compromise with as Sentinels were - neither they appear to be as ancient, or in fact knowing what the hell they're doing. From codex we find when we discover the Wellspring it appears that they might be descendants of thaig mentioned in a fable - the one the king of whom accidentally discovered the Titan and dug so much to reach it again, that the entire thaig fell through.

 

And Valta describes them as 'monsters', twisted by drinking lyrium and not really understanding what Titan is - they were not, in fact, pure (whatever it means), as apparently Valta is (.... why do I have a feeling that she's basically dwarven equivalent of Solas, only at the beginning of her journey!?).

 

It seems that Sha-Brytol simply fancy themselves as Titan's protectors, and guard it jealously, probably because drinking its blood (pure lyrium I guess) gives them strength and power. In other words, they're pretty much like parasites, even if they view themselves as more than that.