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[Elessara]

It would be strange for them to drop another DLC so soon... wouldn't it? Maybe it'll just be an announcement of the expansion we can expect in November/December. Y'know. Nothing big.

 

Catching up from last night but ...

 

Would it really be *that* strange?  They only have to worry about Xbox1/PS4/PC now (sorry last gen people) and with the lack of general companion lines in the Descent (I don't think that's too spoilery?) I really don't see them dragging all of the VAs into a studio just to voice those measly few lines.  I personally wouldn't be surprised if they did work on multiple DLCs at once.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

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Didn't Rhenn mention that one of his soldiers fell into a hole and emerged three days later, telling stories of golden longboat hovering in the air, hairless children playing with nugs and a giant skeleton on a throne? Maybe he's from this strange... colony?

 

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I think this colony could be one of places Solas talks about in his conversation with Abelas at the Temple of Mythal.

 

Solas: "There are other places, friend, other duties. Your people yet linger."

 

Abelas: "Elvhen such as you ?"

 

Solas: "Yes. Such as I."

 

Abelas: "Perhaps there are places that the shemlen have not yet touched."

 

Solas: "There is a place for your lethallin, if you seek it."

 

We know that some Elves did flee to Cad'halash or Cadash Thaig after the fall of Arlathan. But what if there were other Elves from other parts of Elvhenan who fled to the Deep Roads after the fall of the Elvhen ?

[Elessara]

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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but ... Titan's blood is lyrium, we are given to understand.  What would happen to a Titan if it's blood was corrupted into red lyrium?  Not sure I'd want to find out.

 

[Uirebhiril]

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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but ... Titan's blood is lyrium, we are given to understand.  What would happen to a Titan if it's blood was corrupted into red lyrium?  Not sure I'd want to find out.

 

 

Lyrium stuff...

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Well, there is the primeval thaig that Hawke found their way into... maybe...? It's a curious idea, certainly.

[midnight tea]

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Giant skeletons on thrones made me think of Xenon in the Black Emporium.

 

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Maybe someone else's made a bad deal? We also see many gigantic skeletons scattered throughout the world - especially in Frostback Basin (mostly Swamp Kuldsdotten, which is basically an enormous crater)

 

 

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I think this colony could be one of places Solas talks about in his conversation with Abelas at the Temple of Mythal.

 

Solas: "There are other places, friend, other duties. Your people yet linger."

 

Abelas: "Elvhen such as you ?"

 

Solas: "Yes. Such as I."

 

Abelas: "Perhaps there are places that the shemlen have not yet touched."

 

Solas: "There is a place for your lethallin, if you seek it."

 

We know that some Elves did flee to Cad'halash or Cadash Thaig after the fall of Arlathan. But what if there were other Elves from other parts of Elvhenan who fled to the Deep Roads after the fall of the Elvhen ?

 

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True, though my bet is that the last (or major) ancient elf colony doesn't lie underground (though who knows, maybe some of them fled and were accepted by some other Titan), but in a place like Crossroads. Morrigan herself did say that some of eluvians lead to places 'in between', like Crossroads themselves.

[Rabbitonfire]

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I don't think an Elf-Dwarf union results in Humans. It will result in a shorter, more muscular Elf or a Dwarf with pointy ears.

But what if it makes an elf with round ears?

[Illyria]

But what if it makes an elf with round ears?

 

I really like seeing replies to spoiler posts out of context.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

 

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True, though my bet is that the last (or major) ancient elf colony doesn't lie underground (though who knows, maybe some of them fled and were accepted by some other Titan), but in a place like Crossroads. Morrigan herself did say that some of eluvians lead to places 'in between', like Crossroads themselves.

 

But Morrigan also says that one cannot stay in the Crossroads forever.

 

 

But what if it makes an elf with round ears?

 

Elf with round ears = not an Elf.

[Elessara]

But Morrigan also says that one cannot stay in the Crossroads forever.

 

 

 

Humans can't.  But in the Masked Empire, when the elves used the eluvian, didn't they feel refreshed and energized while the humans felt uncomfortable and got headaches?  I don't really remember so please point out if I'm wrong.

[midnight tea]

But Morrigan also says that one cannot stay in the Crossroads forever.

 

 

Forever? Probably not. A couple thousand years? Probably. After all, Crossroads may be deteriorating, but they've survived to present day in a good enough shape.

 

I mean, it may be that because the colony itself is actively used, it may deteriorate faster... but that may mean it's one of reasons Solas is desperate to do something about it, eh?

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Humans can't.  But in the Masked Empire, when the elves used the eluvian, didn't they feel refreshed and energized while the humans felt uncomfortable and got headaches?  I don't really remember so please point out if I'm wrong.

 

You know how Bioware plays fast and loose with its lore ? That's why I tend to not rely on the books too much,

[Elessara]

You know how Bioware plays fast and loose with its lore ? That's why I tend to not rely on the books too much,

 

Well, in that vein ... Morrigan doesn't know everything  ;D

[drosophila]

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Yes, I actually took Solas (decided to roll my pre-Arbor save) and while - like all followers - most his comments are short, he definitely doesn't oppose going down. He even says at one point (before riding down to 5th level) that it's "a mystery worth investigating" and kinda gives a vibe of encouraging to go down and discover all these things.

I even had a laugh once, because (after Sha-Brytol explode one of the bridges) he says "Someone wishes not to be disturbed... There must be another way." Like... wow, Solas, you're very eager to disturb that frikking ancient thing that has immense power! xD

 

And in the ending cutscene, he just stands there, looking SMUG - or at least somewhat pleased   (though the crossed arms seem to imply "I know something, but nope! I won't share it!")

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I get the feeling he becomes smug whenever history is being shaped around him - here, after the fall of Haven, in the Winter palace... like he has some sort of addiction for being involved in things. I know it's a bit out of character for him, but in the picture he looks like he's thinking, "Fen'Harel, you clever mofo, you did it again."

[midnight tea]

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I get the feeling he becomes smug whenever history is being shaped around him - here, after the fall of Haven, in the Winter palace... like he has some sort of addiction for being involved in things. I know it's a bit out of character for him, but in the picture he looks like he's thinking, "Fen'Harel, you clever mofo, you did it again."

 

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"Ha! For so long I've observed history together with spirits - now they observe me in action as well!"

 

Honestly, who interested with history wouldn't enjoy making history? Or the notion of being involved in things, especially if they carry fear of not being remembered by anyone. I mean, at least he has his mark on the world ;P

 

.... Uh, I can't help but to think how similar Solas is/can be in some regards to one of my original  characters.... And no, it's not anything inspired - I've had and worked on that particular character since 2010. Probably adds to why it all resonates so well with me.

[drosophila]

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"Ha! For so long I've observed history together with spirits - now they observe me in action as well!"

 

Honestly, who interested with history wouldn't enjoy making history? Or the notion of being involved in things, especially if they carry fear of not being remembered by anyone. I mean, at least he has his mark on the world ;P

 

.... Uh, I can't help but to think how similar Solas is/can be in some regards to one of my original  characters.... And no, it's not anything inspired - I've had and worked on that particular character since 2010. Probably adds to why it all resonates so well with me.

 

You have characters? As in writing or art? Can I see them?

 

He resonates very strongly with me because of his mistakes, and the way he's full of regret, yet capable of accepting he was wrong and always looking for a way to move forward. That particualr theme touches me deeply. No woder my other absolutely favorite character is Edward Elric. 

 

Lavellan is definitely inspired by him, but it was more of a conscious idea that someone like Solas would be very likely to fall in love with a younger version of himself, and it would really bother him to watch the younger version make the same mistakes he did despite all his advice. That and pretty much every character I make being a feisty female.

[NightSymphony]

A friend of mine just posted this..I thought it was cute

 

[Gwyvian]

A friend of mine just posted this..I thought it was cute

 

 

I really want to see a marketing campaign with this name. 

[Cee]

I am stuck on this "investigate the corpses" glitch. Trying this workaround for the third time.

 

edit: Nope, didn't work.

[drosophila]

A friend of mine just posted this..I thought it was cute

 

 

That name would be awesome for the crafting materials. Spicy Dinosaur Bone sounds like the name of a sushi roll.

[midnight tea]

You have characters? As in writing or art? Can I see them?

 

He resonates very strongly with me because of his mistakes, and the way he's full of regret, yet capable of accepting he was wrong and always looking for a way to move forward. That particualr theme touches me deeply. No woder my other absolutely favorite character is Edward Elric. 

 

Lavellan is definitely inspired by him, but it was more of a conscious idea that someone like Solas would be very likely to fall in love with a younger version of himself, and it would really bother him to watch the younger version make the same mistakes he did despite all his advice. That and pretty much every character I make being a feisty female.

 

Both writing AND art The idea is that at some point I'll turn my idea into webcomics/comics, but knowing my perfectionism and pace of work it will take... a while^^;

 

Anyhoo...I've always liked tales that either involved or told stories from perspective of people that are... unusual. In a sense - immortal, wielding weird powers or in certain position, or driven by some special, long-winded mission or something alike. They were always affected or defined by this in interesting ways and brought an interesting point of view. So no wonder I pretty much have a stable of such characters, with one major one I eventually plan to center story on.

 

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Anyway - there's not much in terms of art or story I've released or left on public parts of the Internet. My character took part in two OCTs (Original Character Tournaments) at dA, with the first one being what defined her in my head, but so far majority of OCT entries are hidden from view, for variety of reasons. Her (a tad incomplete) character charts for second OCT, as well as her audition entry are still in my gallery though: 

http://midnighttea7....sheet-323365247

http://midnighttea7....chart-358122498

http://midnighttea7....entry-324774608

 

.....And yes, she's a feisty redhead Well, maybe not really feisty per se, but definitely INTENSE.

[Cee]

I come bearing an amusing glitch (unlike the annoying one preventing me from making any progress):

 

 

 

No spoilers, just a few seconds of elevator. Phone quality.

[drosophila]

Both writing AND art The idea is that at some point I'll turn my idea into webcomics/comics, but knowing my perfectionism and pace of work it will take... a while^^;

 

Anyhoo...I've always liked tales that either involved or told stories from perspective of people that are... unusual. In a sense - immortal, wielding weird powers or in certain position, or driven by some special, long-winded mission or something alike. They were always affected or defined by this in interesting ways and brought an interesting point of view. So no wonder I pretty much have a stable of such characters, with one major one I eventually plan to center story on.

 

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Anyway - there's not much in terms of art or story I've released or left on public parts of the Internet. My character took part in two OCTs (Original Character Tournaments) at dA, with the first one being what defined her in my head, but so far majority of OCT entries are hidden from view, for variety of reasons. Her (a tad incomplete) character charts for second OCT, as well as her audition entry are still in my gallery though: 

http://midnighttea7....sheet-323365247

http://midnighttea7....chart-358122498

http://midnighttea7....entry-324774608

 

.....And yes, she's a feisty redhead Well, maybe not really feisty per se, but definitely INTENSE.

 

I like her! You put in all those little details that make a character real, like that she's ambidextrous or even the contents of hre pouch. I knew it you headcanon more than you let on here And I have a weakness for feisty redheads. Lavellan's more of feisty ginger though... I'm going through a ginger phase.

 

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Keep working on that comic. I'd be a fan. 

[laurelinvanyar]

 

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To be entirely fair, the Sha-Brytol were not keen on talking.  If the elven sentinels had only growled at you and never stopped to parley, quizzy probably would have murdered them too.  The lyrium seems to strip the Sha-Brytol of independent thought and action beyond an instinct to protect the titan, which leads into my next point.

 

So I just had an awful thought.

 

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I was listening to DanaDuchy's banter compilation and came across this line of Cole's, talking about the Bastion of the Pure:

 

Cole: It's singing.  A they that's an it that's asleep...but still making music.

 

And I was also reading through all the spoilered lore posts, particularly Habits Honeypot's on how compulsion is a huge theme in the Dragon Age universe.  And I started thinking...does Cole's description of the lyrium song sound horribly similar to Reaper indoctrination to anyone else?  His words pretty much describe the derelict Reaper in ME2.

 

I'm not saying it's a one-to-one comparison between indoctrination and the lyrium song, but they do seem to have similar story purposes of compelling an irreversible change in thinking and behavior.  Red lyrium is blighted, and its "song" inevitably drives people insane.  The Sha-Brytol are constantly exposed to blue lyrium, and they don't die, but they also seem a lot more like Reaper husks than people.  Even in the short term, normal lyrium can be dangerous: lyrium-addling in dwarves, insanity and death in mages.

 

So...maybe whatever broke the world wasn't the loss of lyrium, but the use of it?  What if it's really not meant to be used by mortals, and it also has cumulative effects over generations?  It may have stripped the dwarves of their magic, the elves of their immortality.  It might even subtly alter the behavior of people like mages and templars who are frequently exposed to it, in ways beyond the usual dangers.

 

Also, not sure if that made sense at all  

 

I'm always telling people to go back to the Dagna conversation. I love her so much so much lore just from 5 mins of dialogue. 

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Dagna kind of sells the "hive mind" theory in conjunction with Titans. It makes sense that lyrium's song compels in the same way the Old God's song does. WHY is another matter entirely >:|

Rule #1 in Thedas: singing causes weird **** to happen. 

[Elessara]

I'm always telling people to go back to the Dagna conversation. I love her so much so much lore just from 5 mins of dialogue. 

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Dagna kind of sells the "hive mind" theory in conjunction with Titans. It makes sense that lyrium's song compels in the same way the Old God's song does. WHY is another matter entirely >:|

Rule #1 in Thedas: singing causes weird **** to happen. 

 

Well, that's better than IRL .... when I sing, people glare at me and tell me to stop.  Sometimes threats are made.

[laurelinvanyar]

 

I had both his daggers with +5 guard on hit and armour that added a whole lot of extra health. He was doing great until we got to the boss, and then it all went wrong.  Poor Cole   and I can't give him a bow either, it's just...wrong. 

Helpful hint for keeping Cole safe:

 

Guard on hit doesn't stack if both use the +5 version. The +5 and +3 will stack, but not 2 +5s. 

 

You're better off giving him a +5 guard on hit and then +hidden blades on hit, because when the hidden blades procs there's 5 hits at once which builds his guard really fast along with dealing massive damage.