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So I've been looking at Solas card, and he probably really is the Hermit

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The original card has a wasteland/mountain range which could be those triangles behind him

The small flame could be for the lantern?

 

Some interesting stuff from Wikipedia:

  • Introspection — Silence — Guidance — Reflection
  • Solitude — Looking inward — Reclusion — Being quiet
  • Inner search — Deep understanding — Isolation
  • Distance — Retreat — Philosophical attitude
  • First, the need to withdraw from society to become comfortable with himself.
  • Second, the return from isolation to share his knowledge with others.

The Hermit is related through a cross sum (the sum of the digits) to the Moon (Moon seems to be Cole cause there's a Crayfish on his card).

While the Hermit mostly integrates the lessons of the sunlit world, the Moon stands at the threshold of light and dark and churns the waters of life. In both cases, treasures can be uncovered through contemplation of what is brought forth. In both cases, monsters may be found.

Some say that the Hermit is a Threshold Guardian, representing an obstacle the Querent, the hero of the piece, must overcome to move on

A potentially dangerous aspect of the Hermit is his retreat, his isolation. We all need to retreat sometimes; retreat and renewal are necessary for growth.

But the Hermit may be tempted to completely withdraw from the world, not because the journey is done, but because the dragons of the real are too daunting, or the trivial pleasures of the cave are too intoxicating. Withdraw at the wrong time, remain withdrawn too long, and growth stops.

 

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Also:

Represented by Virgo, the Hermit is a card of introspection, analysis and, well, virginity. :P

Combined with a desire to just "be alone," the Hermit indicates a feeling of impatience with people. The querent might be sensitive to having his/her peace disturbed, or express disdain for those who can't see what they're seeing ("Are you blind?" might be their refrain, or, more typically, "You just don't get it, and I can't explain it to you."). They're likely to be grumpy and anti-social.


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Maybe he is the hermit AND death. Dun dun duuuuuuunnnnnn! Seems like there's enough for the companions to have two. (There's no disputing Cassandra has at least two tarot cards.) And I still think that other snippet of a card was Solas from the Inquisitors edition.
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Maybe he is the hermit AND death. Dun dun duuuuuuunnnnnn! Seems like there's enough for the companions to have two. (There's no disputing Cassandra has at least two tarot cards.) And I still think that other snippet of a card was Solas from the Inquisitors edition.

Death seems to be Cassandra, her card looks pretty much exactly like the tarot one ^_^

But maybe all of them really have two



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Maybe he is the hermit AND death. Dun dun duuuuuuunnnnnn! Seems like there's enough for the companions to have two. (There's no disputing Cassandra has at least two tarot cards.) And I still think that other snippet of a card was Solas from the Inquisitors edition.

 

Cassandra's party selection card looks like Death to me.  I wonder if companions are used in the Minor Arcana too?

 

Let's see if I were to give Solas another Major Arcana card... it would probably be Temperance, based on what we know about him.  Maybe The Star or The Hierophant but I think Blackwall could be the Hierophant.

 

There are 22 Major Arcana so some of them may have three?  Or other important characters may be in there.  And now I want to go through them and see who I think would be on each.  :unsure: 



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Hm.... I thought we debated Death because of the field of grain and the scythe. BUUUUUTTTT, I am no expert on arcana sooooo... I wonder what instead.



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This is fascinating to me. Especially this bit here:
 

A potentially dangerous aspect of the Hermit is his retreat, his isolation. We all need to retreat sometimes; retreat and renewal are necessary for growth.
But the Hermit may be tempted to completely withdraw from the world, not because the journey is done, but because the dragons of the real are too daunting, or the trivial pleasures of the cave are too intoxicating. Withdraw at the wrong time, remain withdrawn too long, and growth stops.

 
Like, to me, it reads either that, a) Solas has been gone from the 'real world' for so long that he no longer is capable of dwelling there, leading to situations like calling the Avvar a Fereldan; or B) that perhaps part of Solas's story arc is him wanting to leave the real world and go into the Fade forever. Perhaps through some betrayal to the Inquisitor he joins the Elder One's side.
 
Interesting.
 
 
 

Cassandra's party selection card looks like Death to me.  I wonder if companions are used in the Minor Arcana too?

 
Let's see if I were to give Solas another Major Arcana card... it would probably be Temperance, based on what we know about him.  Maybe The Star or The Hierophant but I think Blackwall could be the Hierophant.
 
There are 22 Major Arcana so some of them may have three?  Or other important characters may be in there.  And now I want to go through them and see who I think would be on each.  :unsure: 

 
I believe it was said that the Advisors have cards, too. In the twitter thread. Let me go look for that post.
 
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Not exactly as I remember it, but:
 

I'm glad these are finally starting to make an appearance. These cards (and many, many, many, many more) appear throughout the UI and will also be made into the tarot deck that comes with the "Inquisitor's edition". As these were all lovingly painted by members of the concept team, I wanted to toot their horn for them. Specifically:
 
Nick Thornborrow
http://nthornborrow.tumblr.com/
 
Casper Konefal
http://theworkofcasp...al.blogspot.ca/
 
Ramil Sunga
 
(and I did a couple)

 

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Cassandra's party selection card looks like Death to me.  I wonder if companions are used in the Minor Arcana too?

 

Let's see if I were to give Solas another Major Arcana card... it would probably be Temperance, based on what we know about him.  Maybe The Star or The Hierophant but I think Blackwall could be the Hierophant.

 

There are 22 Major Arcana so some of them may have three?  Or other important characters may be in there.  And now I want to go through them and see who I think would be on each.  :unsure: 

I also thought that Temperance might be fitting for Solas!

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The second card might be the one where he has his eyes closed, the icon in game


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Hm.... I thought we debated Death because of the field of grain and the scythe. BUUUUUTTTT, I am no expert on arcana sooooo... I wonder what instead.

 

It may have been discussed before Cassandra's party selection card was released?

 

If the advisers are included then two people would only have one card.  I guess there's always The Lovers.  I have no idea what to do with The Lovers.



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So I could SLIGHTLY hear when Solas was putting his foot in his mouth talking to the Sky Watcher. He sounds great! Deep and smooth. Allan wasn't lying when he said Solas's voice was lovely!

 

Also, one of the more interesting parts of that demo was the ability the Inquisitor had to banish demons back to the Fade during fights. Color me intrigued! I wonder how often we'll be able to break out that bad boy. Hopefully not TOO often, but that move is cool as heck! And they talked again about Solas having his own unique and apparently powerful spells. I'm even more curious about his skill tree, now. It seems, from what we've seen, that he may be more of a damage dealer type after all.


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Ahh. I was so excited about new footage that I didn't even stop to think about how the cards are also tarot cards! I mean, aside from wanting them, heh. But now that I see it close up I'd be really surprised if that's not supposed to be the Hermit. Mountains, staff, robe, lantern flame...

 

I do tarot readings fairly regularly. Like all cards, it can have different highlights depending on what it appears with or the person or the question. But I think it's worth noting that, in general, whenever the Hermit pops up it has to do with looking for answers and soul-searching and learning. For instance, maybe stepping back and examining yourself and your motives. Or maybe doing some re-evaluating of the things you were doing in a bid to really understand the truth of what's going on. Maybe finding your own path and doing what's right. ...To sum it up briefly, anyway. I could sit here for hours going on about all the varieties of connections. But, to sum it up, the Hermit is a symbol for showing others the way with gentle guidance via things like patience and knowledge. The negatives of isolating, withdrawing, and disconnecting would be if the card is inverted. ...But I suppose that could be a part of his character, too...

 

Either way, I'm now really excited! I was imagining him like that type of guide already, particularly after the hand grabbing scene. I really liked the idea of him being a teacher, and when looked at through the lens of the Hermit, it really fits what we know of his character too! ...And also I never expected to combine my spirituality with Dragon Age. And then also use it to try and learn about a character I love, aha. Cool stuff! This games gets better and better.  ^_^


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Combined with a desire to just "be alone," the Hermit indicates a feeling of impatience with people. 

 

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The querent might be sensitive to having his/her peace disturbed, or express disdain for those who can't see what they're seeing ("Are you blind?" might be their refrain, or, more typically, "You just don't get it, and I can't explain it to you."). They're likely to be grumpy and anti-social.

 

"It's more complicated than that!"


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Mage card



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Hi, fellow Solasfans! I've been lurking in this thread for some time now. I was interested in Solas from the start and I'm happy that we finally got to see him!

 

I was at Gamescom yesterday and got to see the Demo in much better quality and no one was talking over it. His voice sounded really great :) I loved it! Hopefully it will be uploaded soon, as they did it with the E3 Demo.


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Hi, fellow Solasfans! I've been lurking in this thread for some time now. I was interested in Solas from the start and I'm happy that we finally got to see him!

 

I was at Gamescom yesterday and got to see the Demo in much better quality and no one was talking over it. His voice sounded really great :) I loved it! Hopefully it will be uploaded soon, as they did it with the E3 Demo.

 

Great. Then you can tell us what his lines were, since we can't really hear them. :lol:


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Ohoh! OH! I downloaded the video again like the last one, and I was re-watching it, but with my super good headphones and I HEARD HIM! Heard him chiming in on the Avvar, ah!

"Interesting how widely Ferelden beliefs diverge."
"Call me Ferelden again, elf, and see how far you get."

 

Ohhh, I really like the way he sounds...  :wub:

 

If anyone else wants to try, the one I have is from IGN's YouTube since the quality appeared better there at the time. It's at 10:15. There was the littlest pause but it managed to be right as Solas was speaking! Thanks for that awesome timing, Mr. Lee.  ^_^


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"It's more complicated than that!"

 

Brilliant.

 

I swear, every time I think I might be able to predict Solas's overall personality, something drops and throws a monkey wrench into it. We now know that he seems to have a case of foot-in-mouth and may be very, very much like the tarot card that represents him. I'd love to see him have moments of impatience with us depending on the dialogue options we choose. Being bull-headed in every conversation with him will likely bring out the more unpleasant elements of "the hermit". NOT that I would ever go that path. I like him too much for that!



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Now that I know what he's saying, I can actually hear him. Thanks Manabloom. His voice is smooth and soft. Me likey.



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Ohoh! OH! I downloaded the video again like the last one, and I was re-watching it, but with my super good headphones and I HEARD HIM! Heard him chiming in on the Avvar, ah!

"Interesting how widely Ferelden beliefs diverge."
"Call me Ferelden again, elf, and see how far you get."

 

Hee, hee. After seeing how slow you move in battle Sky Watcher, I don't think Solas has anything to worry about. :P



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Now that I know what he's saying, I can actually hear him. Thanks Manabloom. His voice is smooth and soft. Me likey.

 

You're welcome! I was just looking around for details I missed before and didn't expect to hear anything. I was so surprised when I caught it! Glad I can be of service to the Solas thread. [salutes]  ^_^

 

edit: i also very much agree on your assessment of his voice, heh. i maaay've gone back and replayed it a couple of times just to bask in it, aha.



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looks charming


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looks charming

Someone should make a gif of the entire thing, he looks like he posing for Thedas next Topmodel :lol:


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looks charming

 

Oh god I'm laughing SO hard because he looks so confident in the fur and in the blue robes he looks like he's thinking "what? What is this? What have you put me in?"


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Oh my lord...

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dat sidelong glance

*snip*

 

Holy ****, he's hot :o

 

I'm so late to all this, but... oh my :wub: Gonna go swoon for a bit!  And that blue outfit... hnnnng, gimme gimme :lol:


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I know its pretty much confirmed he is an LI at this point, but maker please let me know for sure!
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He's sooooo hot. I have 4 playthrus planned already, however, I might end up romancing Solas every time. So hot!
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