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Just noticed there is finally a new chapter of Message Sent.

 

http://archiveofouro...apters/10503153

 

http://archiveofouro...apters/10503558

 

edit: Yep, there are two. I just saw it in my email and was quick to post. :)



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Also... CapricornSun has been banned for 24 hours for sharing NSFW art. :angry:  I am rather annoyed by this! It's not like we're sharing porn just because..it's art. Art should be shared! 

 

What?.. Wow, she has always been very diligent in marking everything and posting things under spoilers!  :angry: WTH

 

On a happier note -  if anyone is still reading, two chapters of Message Sent are out! Link


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Haha Cee beat me to it!



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What?.. Wow, she has always been very diligent in marking everything and posting things under spoilers!  :angry: WTH

 

On a happier note -  if anyone is still reading, two chapters of Message Sent are out! Link

I have not heard of this one :o have been away from here these days trying to replay origins because the first time I played it I kinda did it in a hurry so I need to focus on every single thing.. I mean.. I didn't even know who the dread wolf was.... that's embarrassing u__u'' I am trying to focus on all the details now etc and I am enjoying it a lot more. Would you care to tell me what this story is about? :) Pretty please? 



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I have not heard of this one :o have been away from here these days trying to replay origins because the first time I played it I kinda did it in a hurry so I need to focus on every single thing.. I mean.. I didn't even know who the dread wolf was.... that's embarrassing u__u'' I am trying to focus on all the details now etc and I am enjoying it a lot more. Would you care to tell me what this story is about? :) Pretty please? 

 

Sure  :D

 

It is a modern alternative universe, where a text sent to a wrong number starts a relationship. So Solas by accident sends a text to Ellana's phone and they end up striking a conversation that turns into... well, we don't know yet! (But we can guess :ph34r: ).

 

I really like it, the author implements lore and characters in a way that they are still the characters from the game, but are different enough to make it interesting. Lots of references to previous games and cameos. The only possible criticism is that the author uses a lot of 'da'len harhen', which not everyone likes.


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Descent was made by Bioware Austin team, Weekes had very little to do with it

I would say he was involved. He had to approve the over-arching story. He's the lead writer so the left hand does have to know what the right hand was doing since it's something they may have to address in a main game at a later date. Frankly, the writing likely took place with Weekes' team in Edmonton/Montreal.  The programming/design stuff was done in Austin. I had a friend that worked there, that's primarily what that studio does.  Writing was typically managed out of one place. 


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I would say he was involved. He had to approve the over-arching story. He's the lead writer so the left hand does have to know what the right hand was doing since it's something they may have to address in a main game at a later date. Frankly, the writing likely took place with Weekes' team in Edmonton/Montreal.  The programming/design stuff was done in Austin. I had a friend that worked there, that's primarily what that studio does.  Writing was typically managed out of one place. 

 

Approving over-arching story - yes, but the writing was indeed done in Austin; the writers were even mentioned by Marc Laidlaw (Hall Hood and Courtney Woods) on his twitter if I remember correctly, and a few writers from Edmonton also mentioned that they either didn't participate in writing Descent, or were simply responsible for advising and critiquing it (https://twitter.com/...635035733422080).

 

I also do know (from tweets of the cinematic lead) that all cutscenes were done in Austin (https://twitter.com/...686236474769408).



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Sure  :D

 

It is a modern alternative universe, where a text sent to a wrong number starts a relationship. So Solas by accident sends a text to Ellana's phone and they end up striking a conversation that turns into... well, we don't know yet! (But we can guess :ph34r: ).

 

I really like it, the author implements lore and characters in a way that they are still the characters from the game, but are different enough to make it interesting. Lots of references to previous games and cameos. The only possible criticism is that the author uses a lot of 'da'len harhen', which not everyone likes.

oh wow omg that sounds super cool! I need to start reading it!! thank you!! - too excited -


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Very pretty art. Solas and Lavellan in bed naked.  I suppose it's NSFW even though it's not listed as such.

http://www.deviantar...ssion-554817866

 

What do you all think about this art? Is it reportable? To me, this is perfectly fine and acceptable. Nothing is showing..it's tasteful.  Is this something that Sunny and I can continue sharing?

 

I wish a mod would answer this question. We really don't know what is acceptable.


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NightSymphony I think that picture is acceptable. It doesn't show anything and you said it's NSFW. But then again I don't have any problems with that kind of or even more revealing pictures.


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I don't think so. She'll be back tonight I think.

 

It's just upsetting...either someone is reporting it or Mod6 is stalking us. :ph34r:

 

Good luck getting a mod to respond to you. Or anyone. Ever.

 

For you, or her, or everyone really, a few of us have started a little group dedicated to working to voice our concerns about the forums, especially the absolute atrocity that is the "moderating" system, to the developers. The rules are pointless if people are going to be wishy washy and just enforce whatever they want whenever they want. If you'd like to join our cause, please PM me and I would be happy to send you an invite.

 

Take back our forums!  heh.


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What do you all think about this art? Is it reportable? To me, this is perfectly fine and acceptable. Nothing is showing..it's tasteful.  Is this something that Sunny and I can continue sharing?

 

I've had a look at the site rules, and they do say that your forum privileges can be immediately suspended for "sexually explicit content."  But really, that's not the problem.

 

The problem is that the enforcement of the various rules is patchy at best, and no one ever defines what counts as "explicit."  What one mod deems tasteful and ok could get thwapped by another mod, and there probably aren't enough of them for fair or consistent enforcement.  So you get situations like this, where Sunny who has never been anything but wonderful and sweet gets banned, but the trolls who wanted bigger boobs (but never posted images) get to keep posting.

 

The site rules do say that you can email contact@bioware.com with concerns about forum moderation.  Not sure if it'll actually help since we've technically been breaking the rules about explicit content for a while now, but it's worth a try.


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Good luck getting a mod to respond to you. Or anyone. Ever.

 

For you, or her, or everyone really, a few of us have started a little group dedicated to working to voice our concerns about the forums, especially the absolute atrocity that is the "moderating" system, to the developers. The rules are pointless if people are going to be wishy washy and just enforce whatever they want whenever they want. If you'd like to join our cause, please PM me and I would be happy to send you an invite.

 

Take back our forums!  heh.

 

I did get moderators to respond to me once...They did by extending my ban...I was initially banned for "being condescending and sarcastic". I got quite upset at that and retaliated by sending a rather rude private message to the moderator who then extended my ban from 2 days to a week...

 

 

 

I've had a look at the site rules, and they do say that your forum privileges can be immediately suspended for "sexually explicit content."  But really, that's not the problem.

 

The problem is that the enforcement of the various rules is patchy at best, and no one ever defines what counts as "explicit."  What one mod deems tasteful and ok could get thwapped by another mod, and there probably aren't enough of them for fair or consistent enforcement.  So you get situations like this, where Sunny who has never been anything but wonderful and sweet gets banned, but the trolls who wanted bigger boobs (but never posted images) get to keep posting.

 

The site rules do say that you can email contact@bioware.com with concerns about forum moderation.  Not sure if it'll actually help since we've technically been breaking the rules about explicit content for a while now, but it's worth a try.

 

The moderators are like the Templars in Kirkwall's Circle of Magi. Nuff' said.



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The moderators are like the Templars in Kirkwall's Circle of Magi. Nuff' said.


I do feel for them. Internet moderation is often thankless and futile. But the site rules-as-written are somewhat impossible to achieve, IMO. What we're doing RIGHT NOW, discussing moderator action, is technically against the rules  :rolleyes:



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Ya know...screw it.  I'm just going to keep on doing what I've been doing. I was reported once..Sunny was reported once and is now banned for 24 hours. I say that's pretty good for having been posting art since...November? I'm  not sure when Sunny started..but I think it was around the same time.  Anyway... let the smut continue. :-P  

 

 

Edit: But seriously...if I post something you don't like..please PM me and I'll try not to post such things in the future. I don't want people to be uncomfortable.


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Ya know...screw it.  I'm just going to keep on doing what I've been doing. I was reported once..Sunny was reported once and is now banned for 24 hours. I say that's pretty good for having been posting art since...November? I'm  not sure when Sunny started..but I think it was around the same time.  Anyway... let the smut continue. :-P  

 

The Dread Wolf would be proud of your rebellious actions, lethallan. Fen'Harel enansal.


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The Dread Wolf would be proud of your rebellious actions, lethallan. Fen'Harel enansal.


Inquisitor: Tell me about the memories you've encountered in the fade.
Solas: I visited this fan forum thread dedicated to the Dread Wolf once. In each post they would break the rules. They would post tasteful incredibly good-looking NSFW drawings of Fen'Harel behind spoiler tags and admire them. This small act of rebellion brought smiles to their faces.
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The Dread Wolf would be proud of your rebellious actions, lethallan. Fen'Harel enansal.

 

You beat me to it :D  *waves tiny rebel god flag*


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Ya know...screw it.  I'm just going to keep on doing what I've been doing. I was reported once..Sunny was reported once and is now banned for 24 hours. I say that's pretty good for having been posting art since...November? I'm  not sure when Sunny started..but I think it was around the same time.  Anyway... let the smut continue. :-P 

Spoiler


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What I want to know is who in this thread keeps reporting it and why, for the love of god, do you NOT JUST TELL US, if it makes you uncomfortable? I don't understand why you wouldn't just ask for them to stop- they are reasonable, nice people, and by bypassing the usual methods of communication (ie- asking), I can't help but think the actions must be out of spite.


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What I want to know is who in this thread keeps reporting it and why, for the love of god, do you NOT JUST TELL US, if it makes you uncomfortable? I don't understand why you wouldn't just ask for them to stop- they are reasonable, nice people, and by bypassing the usual methods of communication (ie- asking), I can't help but think the actions must be out of spite.

 

Might not be a specific person who keeps doing it.  Might be a drive-by modthwap, or a lurker, or whatever.  



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Might not be a specific person who keeps doing it.  Might be a drive-by modthwap, or a lurker, or whatever.  

 

Might not be, but my gut tells me it is.

 

You know I had a mod one time tell the person I had reported for being quite cruel, that it was me (by name) who had reported him. I was pretty mad about it because, ethics, but in this case, maybe I wouldn't mind. lol. 


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What I want to know is who in this thread keeps reporting it and why, for the love of god, do you NOT JUST TELL US, if it makes you uncomfortable? I don't understand why you wouldn't just ask for them to stop- they are reasonable, nice people, and by bypassing the usual methods of communication (ie- asking), I can't help but think the actions must be out of spite.

Have you met the Solas fandom?  I'm sorry but after months of seeing the w*nk that goes in tumblr("YOUR CHOICES WITH SOLAS ARE A MORAL IMPERATIVE. THEY DIRECTLY CORRELATE TO YOUR ABILITY TO BE A GOOD PERSON" -- actual thing) I'm not surprised.  Remember back in the day when Carrie and Rabbit would have photoshop battles - we got yelled at for posting the "fat" Solas on the trash tumblr and were called fatphobic, homophobic, and evil for equating Solas with MRA's. It was literally Solas sitting in front of a computer with hotpockets. It's like...get a life. 

 

Even here. The Solas fandom has the sensibilities of an old lady knitting circle.   

 

So again - back to my initial "head-canon" of the sad lady of "no-fun-allowed".  It's drive-by or a said un-fun lurker. If you have a problem, say something. Otherwise move on and keep knitting. 


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The only possible criticism is that the author uses a lot of 'da'len harhen', which not everyone likes.

 

Interestingly Weekes confirmed that he would never have Solas use 'da'len' in a romantic context.


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Have you met the Solas fandom?  I'm sorry but after months of seeing the w*nk that goes in tumblr("YOUR CHOICES WITH SOLAS ARE A MORAL IMPERATIVE. THEY DIRECTLY CORRELATE TO YOUR ABILITY TO BE A GOOD PERSON" -- actual thing) I'm not surprised.

 

Is it bad that I find that hilarious?

 

If how you behave toward pixels is a moral imperative, I am actually the worst person.  Across 10+ years of gaming, I've Force-brainwashed my party members to evil, eaten souls (yum), defiled a benevolent god's corpse, murdered my love interest, betrayed more than one ally, and committed a few acts of genocide  :lol:

 

Interestingly Weekes confirmed that he would never have Solas use 'da'len' in a romantic context.

 

Makes sense.  They've tried to keep the romances as non-creepy as possible, and I could definitely see how players would find that problematic.


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