I remember the days when it tooks me months to concentrate and get my Undead Warlock to level nineteen. I was so proud. 
I never played full-on, and quit years ago. I was mostly just a snot-nosed kid that was desperate for Warcraft 4 and was willing to take what he could get.
Why would anyone ban Capricorn? 
That's just...no. Bad mods. *hefts newspaper* *Caddius Greatly Disapproves*
AHEM. Caddius already did a tip of the hat, but I thought I would too:
Interestingly Weekes confirmed that he would never have Solas use 'da'len' in a romantic context.
Yup, I have seen. Not a big fan myself, I find it hard to imagine Solas using it. Also aware that a lot of people don't like, which is why I pointed it out, just in case.
Strangely, this sort of worked.
I checked and no enemies on the floor but essentially flung myself off the edge and when I landed (back where I started) there was a genlock.
Such a weird bug, but I'm glad to be past it.
Oh... that might be what did it for me then. I pretty much killed myself 15x trying to reach various ledges, rofl. Finally found that genlock in the lower level, hugging a wall like it was a chameleon rofl.
HURRAH. Bug fix: just go kill yourself.
Im fully on hype train USA
I am on this hype train. It made a stop in the UK, too.
(I am also on the Fallout hype train, The Incredibles 2 hype train and the Captain Marvel movie hype train)
Yup, I have seen. Not a big fan myself, I find it hard to imagine Solas using it. Also aware that a lot of people don't like, which is why I pointed it out, just in case.
I am one of the most vocal dislikers of this trope. It made me very happy that Weekes confirmed this is not in character for Solas.
I am on this hype train. It made a stop in the UK, too.
(I am also on the Fallout hype train, The Incredibles 2 hype train and the Captain Marvel movie hype train)
Wut? THE INCREDIBLES 2!?
I am one of the most vocal dislikers of this trope. It made me very happy that Weekes confirmed this is not in character for Solas.
I have no problem if the relationship starts that way (not necessarily romantic) - it becomes problematic if it continues to be like it, or... hmm... 'intensifies' that way, since it implies lack of equal footing between people/partners.
Another thing that makes me nervous:
Spoiler
Wut? THE INCREDIBLES 2!?
I have no problem if the relationship starts that way (not necessarily romantic) - it becomes problematic if it continues to be like it, or... hmm... 'intensifies' that way, since it implies lack of equal footing between people/partners.
YES INCREDIBLES 2! I AM SO EXCITED.
And yes, I don't mind the brief 'hahren da'len' thing in an early converstation between them. But using it in a romantic setting? I find that creepy. And it does denote a specific power balance.
Tag your spoilers, please.
eep, sorry!
And it does denote a specific power balance.
It's always funny to me how the power balance works in BioWare's romances. In a lot of them, the PC has the upper hand and control over the relationship progression, and that's more somehow more acceptable than the power balance shifting in favor of the NPC? I get it; it IS still just a game, and you're playing the hero. But IMO it is definitely a case of protagonist-centered morality. Just look at all the flak that Alistair gets for dumping you at the Landsmeet, even though the decision itself is perfectly in-character.
It's always funny to me how the power balance works in BioWare's romances. In a lot of them, the PC has the upper hand and control over the relationship progression, and that's more somehow more acceptable than the power balance shifting in favor of the NPC? I get it; it IS still just a game, and you're playing the hero. But IMO it is definitely a case of protagonist-centered morality. Just look at all the flak that Alistair gets for dumping you at the Landsmeet, even though the decision itself is perfectly in-character.
Solas also holds most of the power in the Solavellan romance. It was pointed out months ago in this thread (I can't remember who said it, though) that the romance is his romance sidequest not Lavellan's, but he always picks the broken heart option.
But the 'hahren da'len' power inbalance is different from the inbalance of the PC and NPC since it implies that Solas views his lover as being the lesser figure in the relationship. Da'len has always been used by much older parental figures towards those they view as their child. Used in a romantic context when that's all we have in canon to compare it to squicks me out.
It's always funny to me how the power balance works in BioWare's romances. In a lot of them, the PC has the upper hand and control over the relationship progression, and that's more somehow more acceptable than the power balance shifting in favor of the NPC? I get it; it IS still just a game, and you're playing the hero. But IMO it is definitely a case of protagonist-centered morality. Just look at all the flak that Alistair gets for dumping you at the Landsmeet, even though the decision itself is perfectly in-character.
Fenris was this way as well. He ran from the relationship for, what, three years? And that was that. Even though it works out if you want it to, it wasn't Hawke's decision to approach the relationship again. I think the difference people mean with power imbalance is more that a teacher getting cozy with a student is a bit creepy, and instead of the two involved being equals it's a situation where one party has some sort of authority over the other.
Solas also holds most of the power in the Solavellan romance. It was pointed out months ago in this thread (I can't remember who said it, though) that the romance is his romance sidequest not Lavellan's, but he always picks the broken heart option.
But the 'hahren da'len' power inbalance is different from the inbalance of the PC and NPC since it implies that Solas views his lover as being the lesser figure in the relationship. Da'len has always been used by much older parental figures towards those they view as their child. Used in a romantic context when that's all we have in canon to compare it to squicks me out.
That's very a good point. Honestly I hadn't thought about it very clearly; I'm becoming rather inured to weird relationship dynamics in my video games. *glares at Anders*
Fenris was this way as well. He ran from the relationship for, what, three years? And that was that. Even though it works out if you want it to, it wasn't Hawke's decision to approach the relationship again. I think the difference people mean with power imbalance is more that a teacher getting cozy with a student is a bit creepy, and instead of the two involved being equals it's a situation where one party has some sort of authority over the other.
Thank you. This is what I was trying to say but failing completely.
It's always funny to me how the power balance works in BioWare's romances. In a lot of them, the PC has the upper hand and control over the relationship progression, and that's more somehow more acceptable than the power balance shifting in favor of the NPC? I get it; it IS still just a game, and you're playing the hero. But IMO it is definitely a case of protagonist-centered morality. Just look at all the flak that Alistair gets for dumping you at the Landsmeet, even though the decision itself is perfectly in-character.
Just dropping in and weighing my unsolicited opinion as if I've been here the whole time.
I totally agree with this, but I think in a lot of cases it's having the choice to be able to make the outcome come out in your favour. Using your example, I'm mostly with the whole Alistair in the Landsmeet so long as I have the option to make stick, even if it means choosing a race/backstory, and choice I don't particularly favour (human noble, making him king and becoming his queen), to make it happen.
Saying that, these days I won't mind so much if we don't get the choice to reconcile with Solas, the "it was real" dialogue holds a lot more weight to me now than it did back when I did my first playthrough. (Although I'm still optimistic we'll get something!) All in all, I'm more for NPCs making choices and not having it all down to me as the player. I liked in DA2 that everyone seemed to adapt without Hawke's complete influence, and didn't change their philosophy because Hawke says different.
I don't think it's about power imbalance in terms of who controls the relationship. We Solasmancers seem more tolerant and understanding than most of Solas having the right to break it off when he does. Also for many romances there's a condition under which the NPC will not let the player progress with the romance.It's always funny to me how the power balance works in BioWare's romances. In a lot of them, the PC has the upper hand and control over the relationship progression, and that's more somehow more acceptable than the power balance shifting in favor of the NPC? I get it; it IS still just a game, and you're playing the hero. But IMO it is definitely a case of protagonist-centered morality. Just look at all the flak that Alistair gets for dumping you at the Landsmeet, even though the decision itself is perfectly in-character.
Regarding the NSFW images, perhaps adding extra layers to the process we use for linking them might help? Particularly if this is a case of a mod coming past on patrol, and not deliberate reporting by someone who hates the Solas thread.
CapricornSun spoiler-tags the images, which is great. But for NSFW stuff, instead of just embedding the image below the tag, (which is probably what's got the mods in a tizzy, because it can be seen on the forums,) maybe she could link the original URL so you need to click through if you want to see... or even link to a Tumblr post which in turn has more text links to NSFW art, and just 'feature' it once a week.
Because the links aren't embedded images, and you have to click through a couple of layers of them to reach the art, it'd be much harder to justify deleting the posts or banning people. It can't really be claimed that she's 'posting NSFW art' when in reality all she's doing is sharing a link to a Tumblr post featuring links to artwork. It's completely off-site.
I wonder if other threads suffer as much drama as we seem to.
I wonder if other threads suffer as much drama as we seem to.
Uh...we suffer way less. Have you been to the other threads? They are really ridiculous. This is like 13 year old girl drama and at the end of the day not a big deal. The other threads are rancid. If you cannot handle being sworn at or demeaned or made fun of straight up...don't go.
CapricornSun spoiler-tags the images, which is great. But for NSFW stuff, instead of just embedding the image below the tag, (which is probably what's got the mods in a tizzy, because it can be seen on the forums,) maybe she could link the original URL so you need to click through if you want to see... or even link to a Tumblr post which in turn has more text links to NSFW art, and just 'feature' it once a week.
I think that's what she has been doing... isn't it? It seemed to be the respectful way to share such art without automatically offending anyone who might honestly click on a spoiler tag by mistake, or so most of us agreed back when it became an issue to start. It still seems a good compromise, since the link is there but the content is not. Those who want to see it can. Those who don't just scroll past the spoiler tagged, labeled link and move on.
I wonder if other threads suffer as much drama as we seem to.
I wonder if other threads suffer as much drama as we seem to.
The Sera thread has been closesd twice now (maybe 3 times) with the most recent one happening just a few weeks ago. The first closure was due to the annoucement of her being lesbian and the reaction of the dudegamers. The Cass thread got closed once for much the same reason, and was closed completely a few weeks ago for getting seriously nsfw. There's a new thread now. The old Cole thread died and apparently that got 'werid' towards the end. Cullen's thread hasn't been closed but the few times I've been in there people have been making sure to avoid drama. The other threads aren't big enough to have ever caused trouble. I think this may be the only big character thread to have never even been closed for cleaning.
Just a thought...
Could you just imagine the conversation a Dalish Female Inquisitor would have with their Keeper if they romanced Solas (provided you save the Lavellan clan)?
Lavellan: "Greetings Keeper. Through the Inquisition, I have helped secure a place for the Elvhen. We can rebuild, make a home and restore some of what we have lost...OhbythewayIsleptwiththeDreadWolf...So...How are the halla today?" 
Keeper: "Congratulations on your efforts da'len, you do the clan proud...Wait...What the....What did you say ?" 
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