The Masked Empire, an exchange between Imshael and Felassan, I think.
The Templar sign varies. Most of them have the sword pointing down. The downward sword version probably is a symbolic descendant of the old Judex constellation, with the downward angle meaning judgement and death.
Ahhh, right. Thanks! ...weirdly, I almost remember something about the star that forms the tip of the sword in that constellation appearing on Andraste's death. Fitting symbolism, for sure. 
This is also something I've wanted to post about, have a closer look at those flowers
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They've got EYES. So yeah I think they're her babies, displayed as flowers? With the sun behind her (Elgar'nan? If so, that leads me to wonder whether Elgar'nan was even a person or just something synonymous with the sun. Because flowers need sun to grow right?
).
And if you look at the faces of the flowers, the only other mosaic that resembles the pattern is June (sort of):
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Ooo that's creepy! But also interesting! 
Here is a bigger picture of Mythal if anyone wants to take a closer look
This is also something I've wanted to post about, have a closer look at those flowers
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They've got EYES. So yeah I think they're her babies, displayed as flowers? With the sun behind her (Elgar'nan), which leads me to wonder whether Elgar'nan was even a person or just something synonymous with the sun. Because flowers need sun to grow right?
And if you look at the faces of the flowers, the only other mosaic that resembles the pattern is June:
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Look at the lower half of June's face. It's solid white. That man has a beard. He's a freaking dwarf. I mean, I know a lot of people suspect he is one, but between that and the anvil, I just can't. Dude was a dwarf I'll bet, and Sylaise probably married him to seal some sort of treaty like Tyrdda and Hendir did .
Look at the lower half of June's face. It's solid white. That man has a beard. He's a freaking dwarf. I mean, I know a lot of people suspect he is one, but between that and the anvil, I just can't. Dude was a dwarf I'll bet, and Sylaise probably married him to seal some sort of treaty like Tyrdda and Hendir did .
I've wondered if he's a Dwarf. How does he have Elf ears? And what's that swirly ball thing down by his anvil?
If that white stuff is a beard, then I'd hate to think what Ghilan'nain looked like! Haha by the Maker:
I've wondered if he's a Dwarf. How does he have Elf ears? And what's that swirly ball thing down by his anvil?
If that white stuff is a beard, then I'd hate to think what Ghilan'nain looked like! Haha by the Maker:
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"I'm on a halla. 
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Sorrynotsorry.
I came across this while looking for the mosaic pictures: http://virdirthan.wi...ncient Arlathan
It's a theory about Andruil and June possibly being made tranquil due to the swirl marks on their foreheads.
The only other pantheon member who has this is Dirthamen. Sylaise has what looks like some kind of mark on her forehead, but it is different compared to the others.
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I've wondered if he's a Dwarf. How does he have Elf ears? And what's that swirly ball thing down by his anvil?
If that white stuff is a beard, then I'd hate to think what Ghilan'nain looked like! Haha by the Maker:
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I'm not sure, but the style of his mosaic, too - the geometric patterns are very reminiscent of Dwarven work. He could have even been either a dwarf or a half-dwarf (or obsessed with Dwarven crafts, straight from Orzamarr). How much do you want to be he's the one who crafted the orbs of power for the Creators?
Well, if legend is to be believed, the halla is Ghilan'nain, not the figure riding the halla. Who the figure is then though, I haven't a clue (I think the figure looks vaguely masculine myself, maybe it's Solas, it's white like an egg 
). Perhaps it's there simply to show that she started out as an elf? The Elven Pantheon is really weird, I think we can all agree.
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I came across this while looking for the mosaic pictures: http://virdirthan.wi...ncient Arlathan
It's a theory about Andruil and June possibly being made tranquil due to the swirl marks on their foreheads.
The only other pantheon member who has this is Dirthamen.
Her eyes are also grey and her arm appears to be aflame.
The backgrounds of each mosaic are quite telling, not certain what to make of Andruil's though. Something voidy? Fen'harel has an orb (probably the moon) above his head. Falon'din a portal to the dead? June has some Drawfy looking architecture, Mythal a sun? Dirthamen and Elgar'nan I can't tell. Ghilan'nain appears to have nothing behind her. What's Elgar'nan holding with his four-clawed hand? An orb? .
Ugh lord, I hate that sort of thing. The other day I was called a nazi for supporting Radovid.
I think it is someone reporting tbh, because the mods seem to let a whole lot of off-topic go by, I can't imagine them letting that slide then clamping down on NSFW something shocking.
Old reply but...
witcher post:
I've wondered if he's a Dwarf. How does he have Elf ears? And what's that swirly ball thing down by his anvil?
If that white stuff is a beard, then I'd hate to think what Ghilan'nain looked like! Haha by the Maker:
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There's a theory around that Ghil might have been raised to godhood for creating living vessels the other members of the pantheon could pop into.. so it would fit if the white eyes of the halla were intended to show that she's "inside". As for the white face, pretty sure that's vallaslin, not fuzz. 
We have to give the poor artists a break- there's only so much detail they can get in there, working with tiny little squares of glass.
What's Elgar'nan holding with his four-clawed hand? An orb?
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Pretty sure that's supposed to be the Sun, according to his creation myth. And I have to agree with another post a while back- between that claw and the wing-ish things spread out behind him, he does look kind of dragony.
In theory, Ghil may have been raised to godhood for creating living vessels the other members of the pantheon could pop into: god-vehicles, of a sort. So it would fit if the white eyes of the halla were intended to show that she's "inside". As for the white stuff, pretty sure that's just vallaslin.
Pretty sure that's supposed to be the Sun, according to his creation myth. No?
That's what I think.
Also, the background for Elgar'nan's mosaic looks like an hourglass.
I am in need of some advice. I am at the point in game now where I have to choose between conscripting mages or allying with them. I am curious so as to what action did you all take and why ? I'm interested in knowing the reasons.
I am in need of some advice. I am at the point in game now where I have to choose between conscripting mages or allying with them. I am curious so as to what action did you all take and why ? I'm interested in knowing the reasons.
I made them my ally for roleplay reasons . I like Cassandra as a Divine and conscripting them works better but it doesn't work for my pc.So I don't end up with the best epilogue. 
I'm not against mage freedom in theory but what I saw in Redcliffe didn't make me believe for one second those people would be able to take care of themselves or just be responsible.
Fiona used to be a slave , it was terrible for her ...but then she acts all naive about Alexius throwing them to the wolves.
If you talk with mages around town , most of them are against the Tevinter alliance , but they just sit on their hands.
They are like a bunch of sheep.
Then there's all the rebel mages out of Redcliffe causing mayhem , the mage faction doesn't take responsability for it.
They are safe in Redcliffe , peasents are casualties of a war they started , and they don't even feel like sending a healer ...
Also the tranquils are getting butchered and no one noticed it.
Even after you free them , they are a pain in the a** .They only help with the Breach but you have to send templars to save them from angry mobs.(war table missions)
My roleplay reasons is my Inquisitor was Dalish and Fiona is an elven leader.
There's no way he's going to shame her in public and jail her in the name of a human organisation.
My Inquisitor is a bit of an hypocrite , he thinks putting human mages in circles is a fine idea , it's another story when it comes to elves.
*sigh* Well I'm back. That was quite an experience.
I think I'll take a day or two off from sharing artwork here in the meantime. It'll depend on my mood though. I hope you're happy BiowareMod06. 
In other news, so glad that Message Sent has been updated with 2 chapters but a little sad that Solas and Ellana still haven't met.
Speaking of fanfiction, if you're a fan of modern AU Solavellan fics like Message Sent or Bread Wolf, there's another fic I quite enjoy reading called Doughnut Rebel by salesman, where Solas is the owner of a donut shop. xD It's fluff, the author updates it almost daily, and it's gotten me in the mood for donuts.
And here is deedylovescake's artwork of donut shop owner Solas, since the art post containing this artwork was deleted.
I made them my ally for roleplay reasons . I like Cassandra as a Divine and conscripting them works better but it doesn't work for my pc.So I don't end up with the best epilogue.
I'm not against mage freedom in theory but what I saw in Redcliffe didn't make me believe for one second those people would be able to take care of themselves or just be responsible.
Fiona used to be a slave , it was terrible for her ...but then she acts all naive about Alexius throwing them to the wolves.
If you talk with mages around town , most of them are against the Tevinter alliance , but they just sit on their hands.
They are like a bunch of sheep.
Then there's all the rebel mages out of Redcliffe causing mayhem , the mage faction doesn't take responsability for it.
They are safe in Redcliffe , peasents are casualties of a war they started , and they don't even feel like sending a healer ...
Also the tranquils are getting butchered and no one noticed it.
Even after you free them , they are a pain in the a** .They only help with the Breach but you have to send templars to save them from angry mobs.(war table missions)
My roleplay reasons is my Inquisitor was Dalish and Fiona is an elven leader.
There's no way he's going to shame her in public and jail her in the name of a human organisation.
My Inquisitor is a bit of an hypocrite , he thinks putting human mages in circles is a fine idea , it's another story when it comes to elves.
Thank the Creators someone gets it ! I was pro-mage in the previous 2 games but in this game, I find it really hard to ally with the Rebel Mages. The things they did, the things they condoned either directly or indirectly are atrocious. They allowed themselves to be enslaved by Tevinter, let a Tevinter magister drive out the ruling Arl of that region which is tantamount to an act of war, they did not do anything to prevent the Tranquils from being murdered and their skulls being used as magical apparatus. Worst of all, most of the Rebel Mages were so...passive...They just went along with whatever plan Fiona had or they just grumbled about it...
*sigh* Well I'm back. That was quite an experience.
I think I'll take a day or two off from sharing artwork here in the meantime. It'll depend on my mood though. I hope you're happy BiowareMod06.
In other news, so glad that Message Sent has been updated with 2 chapters but a little sad that Solas and Ellana still haven't met.
Speaking of fanfiction, if you're a fan of modern AU Solavellan fics like Message Sent or Bread Wolf, there's another fic I quite enjoy reading called Doughnut Rebel by salesman, where Solas is the owner of a donut shop. xD It's fluff, the author updates it almost daily, and it's gotten me in the mood for donuts.
And here is deedylovescake's artwork of donut shop owner Solas, since the art post containing this artwork was deleted.
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Welcome back! Sorry to hear about your....absence.
I saw the Doughnut Rebel fic listed the other day but I didn't read it. I'll have to check it out sometime. 
Capricorn! *waves*
So, the Mage decision. Conscript.
I sympathize with the Rebellion. I really do. But it falls prey to the same failings in so many uprisings. Namely, that oppressed classes and people simply do not have enough people with experience in leadership and running a country/organization to have a smooth ride. If they had that much of a presence in the ruling class, they wouldn't really be oppressed.
So you have mages who have never had much responsibility thrust out in to the world trying to make it as a group. They have never dealt with this kind of situation before. Hell, compare the Templars' beef with Cassandra to the mages. The Templars are upset about the apostates wandering around camp and want to clamp down on them, the mages are complaining about their quarters because they're still gangly out of their gilded cage. Only a handful of mages have played politics, and even then, Circle politics or a court mage are far different than trying to negotiate safely for a revolution.
So I conscript, and then I push for mage freedom, but not willy-nilly. Let them grow into the responsibility by working with the Inquisition. I like Fiona well enough, but her signing up with Tevinter is just bizarre and there's still a part of me that headcanons that blood magic was involved on Alexius's part. That single move obliterates the Mage Rebellion's credibility in the entirety of the South, puts them into forced servitude to the Imperium, and there's the fact that a bloody Rebellion of mages holding Redcliffe Castle on an island in the middle of a lake should be able to hold off any Templar assault, especially when the bulk of their forces are on the other side of Ferelden.
*deep breath*
If they had had an Irving or the Hero of Ferelden as their leader, and the rest of them had grown up in more liberal, independent Circles that actually gave them some responsibilities, then the Rebellion probably would have avoided some of its pratfalls.
I usually Recruit the Templars, but that's because most of the jackasses in the Order are in the Red Templars, and Knight-Commander Barris is bae. 
I don't mind Conscripting them either, mind.
INQUISITOR: Just...just *pinches nose* Just shut up and follow my orders for now, okay? We'll sort you out later.
*sigh* Well I'm back. That was quite an experience.
I think I'll take a day or two off from sharing artwork here in the meantime. It'll depend on my mood though. I hope you're happy BiowareMod06.
In other news, so glad that Message Sent has been updated with 2 chapters but a little sad that Solas and Ellana still haven't met.
Speaking of fanfiction, if you're a fan of modern AU Solavellan fics like Message Sent or Bread Wolf, there's another fic I quite enjoy reading called Doughnut Rebel by salesman, where Solas is the owner of a donut shop. xD It's fluff, the author updates it almost daily, and it's gotten me in the mood for donuts.
And here is deedylovescake's artwork of donut shop owner Solas, since the art post containing this artwork was deleted.
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Welcome back!!!
Does anyone know of a good Solas fic that has actually finished? It would be kind of nice to read something from beginning to end without waiting for a new chapter?
*waves at Alyka, Caddius, and DustyTulip* Hi guys!
Welcome back!!!
Does anyone know of a good Solas fic that has actually finished? It would be kind of nice to read something from beginning to end without waiting for a new chapter?
Well, there's KeeperLavellan's Apotheosis, which just ended a few weeks ago. I haven't finished reading it though because, holy crap, 90 chapters!!! xD (I've only gotten to around chapter 21.)
EDIT: Top Solas (It's been awhile.)
Nice screencaps of Solas from The Descent DLC by solas-an.
Source: http://solas-an.tumb...st/126820810260
I am in need of some advice. I am at the point in game now where I have to choose between conscripting mages or allying with them. I am curious so as to what action did you all take and why ? I'm interested in knowing the reasons.
Oh boy one of my favorite Inquisition choices to talk about! My Inquisitor conscripted them but only as a temporary measure.
My Quiz was the type of mage that would have been content to carry on with her studies in the Circle if the rebellion hadn't happened. Although she did acknowledge ,after being forced to leave her own Circle ,that not every Circle had been as kind to their mages as hers and that needed to change. She believed there needed to be a better institution for mages than the current Circle system and that it shouldn't be one that was controlled by the Chantry but by mages themselves. It should be a place for education, not a prison.
Being sweet, kind-hearted and a mage herself, she initially planned to ally with the rebel mages when Fiona first approaches her in Val royeaux. Believing diplomacy is always the best solution. That all changed when she saw the grisly future their recklessness wrought. She reluctantly decides that the best way to protect them (from themselves and others) is to temporarily conscript them. She doesn't like that she's done this but she sees no other choice.This decision combined with Leliana becoming Divine results in a epilogue that best suits her own personal arc. When she became the Inquisitor she said she wanted to be a good example for mages to follow, I like that the resulting epilogue alludes to what she said in her speech;
When Leliana disbands the Circles, they remain with the Inquisition and form a new college called the Bright Hand. To many, this new order represents the best of mages, an example for the rest of Thedas to follow.
I head canon that she becomes a grand enchanter figure as well as head of the Inquisition. She also makes sure the mages are never mistreated and have a haven where they are protected, can learn and are treated with kindness and respect. So basically a tough love decision that results in the mages willingly staying with the Inquisition and forming a new and better college.
I am in need of some advice. I am at the point in game now where I have to choose between conscripting mages or allying with them. I am curious so as to what action did you all take and why ? I'm interested in knowing the reasons.
I always decide on an alliance with the mages. With all that's recently happened and the reason behind the rebellion in the first place, I believe showing my fellow mages that I support their views but not their actions will not only let me gain their trust but let them gain the rest of Thedas' trust in the process, slowly but surely. I think working alongside the inquisition will not only serve as a probation period of sorts but also help the rest of the world see what mages can be if we give them a chance. The fact that they are working alongside our organization with their freedom still intact also helps tensions between our mages and templars to simmer down. My inquisitor believes that although on shaky ground at first, his decision will strengthen the relationship between these two factions and eventually create a united and trusting front against Corypheus and his forces, which is paramount if we are to be victorious.
Morale is extremely important and fighting side by side against a common enemy in my opinion is the best way to create solid foundations for peace. Laying the groundwork includes making hard decisions and I believe this to be one of them. If events are not to be repeated, then changes have to be made. I also knew my actions would be remembered and I wanted the mages to understand my motivations while feeling safe and in control. I gave them a chance I felt they deserved because of past mistakes but made sure they understood the future had to be different and that their actions from here on out were crucial to their fate and place in Thedas. Not only would they be scrutinized by the world but by the inquisition itself. I thought we were the best place for them to be and the safest place for them to test the waters.
My inquisitor might believe in second chances but not in third chances. If they started to get out of hand I wouldn't have hesitated to conscript them (having taken the necessary precautions and safety measures once they arrived at skyhold of course). I'm as much a pragmatic man as I am a moral one. I listen to my conscience but take calculated risks based on thought-out decisions. Like I said above, the mages would feel safe and in control, they'd effectively think this was their decision (even if the game makes it seem like every decision is ours alone to make). This is something they would remember once Corypheus had been defeated, that the inquisition trusted them, gave them a chance and most of all, secured their freedom. Powerful allies to have while still doing what I felt was right, win/win. All of these things made sense to me and paid off in the end, (depending on other choices I made obviously).
As for their alliance with Alexius. I think that was a good idea that was badly executed by the writing team. I understand the explanation behind the alliance and the reason for the bioware team to showcase this. It's an easy way to create a controversial choice for the inquisitor while demonstrating how dire the situation had been during the mage/templar war and how fast things had escalated recently without needless exposition. That all being said, the way they write in Fiona, making her seem naive, especially given her past and her current position, is more then far-fetched in my opinion. Desperation doesn't change who you are fundamentally. The fact that she kept questioning Alexius' decisions in regards to "promises" he made to the mages were eye-rolling moments to say the least . She knew what being leashed meant or should've known what it entailed in regards to her freedoms. I also understand what they wanted to convey given how they wrote the mages following Fiona.
They wanted to show us how frightened and unsure the movement had made them. How the pace of this war had sprinted past reason and straight into fight or flight mode. I also understand that mob mentality has a very powerful affect on people. The lack of opposing voices however seemed too convenient, even considering the circumstances. I feel like they should have been at the point of considering the choice rather than actually having gone through with it once we arrived. Even if Alexius did use time distortion magic to manipulate events in his favor and positioned himself in a place of power to look like a savior, his actions were too timely not to have been questioned by Fiona. Again one could argue desperation and the urgency of their predicament left for little choice or time to think, but given Fiona's leadership, I'd still contend the decision was pushed for dramatic effect (as well as for gameplay choices as stated above).
Look at the lower half of June's face. It's solid white. That man has a beard. He's a freaking dwarf. I mean, I know a lot of people suspect he is one, but between that and the anvil, I just can't. Dude was a dwarf I'll bet, and Sylaise probably married him to seal some sort of treaty like Tyrdda and Hendir did .
Can I interest you in my 'June was a golem' theory? I went into it in more detail in Madrar's dwarf thread in the lore section, but I don't know if that's spoiler free so I haven't been back there in a while.
*sigh* Well I'm back. That was quite an experience.
I think I'll take a day or two off from sharing artwork here in the meantime. It'll depend on my mood though. I hope you're happy BiowareMod06.
In other news, so glad that Message Sent has been updated with 2 chapters but a little sad that Solas and Ellana still haven't met.
Speaking of fanfiction, if you're a fan of modern AU Solavellan fics like Message Sent or Bread Wolf, there's another fic I quite enjoy reading called Doughnut Rebel by salesman, where Solas is the owner of a donut shop. xD It's fluff, the author updates it almost daily, and it's gotten me in the mood for donuts.
And here is deedylovescake's artwork of donut shop owner Solas, since the art post containing this artwork was deleted.
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SUNNIE!
*tackle hug*
Well, there's KeeperLavellan's Apotheosis, which just ended a few weeks ago. I haven't finished reading it though because, holy crap, 90 chapters!!! xD (I've only gotten to around chapter 21.)
Good to have you back!
I've finished Apotheosis, and it's great, especially the chapters where she strays from canon for the Protect Clan Lavellan mission.
Can I interest you in my 'June was a golem' theory? I went into it in more detail in Madrar's dwarf thread in the lore section, but I don't know if that's spoiler free so I haven't been back there in a while.
SUNNIE!
*tackle hug*
Hello Illyria!
Good to have you back!
I've finished Apotheosis, and it's great, especially the chapters where she strays from canon for the Protect Clan Lavellan mission.
Yes, it's a good fic from what I've read so far. I just haven't continued reading it from the last time I stopped. (I'm horrible, I really should continue reading it. 
) I just sort of know some of the characters from the Protect Clan Lavellan chapters from looking at deedylovescake's fanarts of the fic. xD
Yes, it's a good fic from what I've read so far.
(Though if you just go a few more chapters, you might get to a point where you just won't be able to put it down. At least that's what happened to me.)
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