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Art.

 

Solavellan kiss in the rain for the kiss meme.

 

Lavellan and Solas reading under a tree. (I don't remember if this was shared.)

 

Solas carrying Lavellan.

 

Lavellan and Solas chatting on the couch.

 

Lavellan scaring Solas. xD

 

An uncomfortable topic. (Comic about the Solavellan break up.)

 

A nice Solas bust art.

 

Fen'Harel under a tree.

 

Solas sketches.

 

Also, here's a Solavellan artwork I did for an art trade with destinyapostasy on Tumblr.

 

Solas and Lavellan in a lake/pond/spring.

It's only slightly NSFW, no boobs or naughty bits shown, and it's supposed to be romantic, okay? Okay?!?! 


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Moar Descent-related, semi-insomniac musings (I'm in Redcliffe now with mah mage).

 

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A bunch of cute art happened while I was sleeping

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Solas and Lavellan in bed (This looks very familiar..I think the artist posted this in here months ago)

http://sparky28.devi...rters-555204594

 

Winter Mage Girlfriend

http://sparky28.devi...riend-555206622

 

Solas and Lavellan reading outside

http://sparky28.devi...Solas-555207461

 

CapricornSun's Tala Lavallan and Solas

http://sparky28.devi...s-Day-555207759

 

OMG you shared my art, thank you ~ <3
 

You can really see some of the improvement in her work. All adorable. :)

 

I agree. I love watching artists improve. :D

Thank you, it means a lot to me :blush: ^_^ ! You wonderful people are always so encouraging <3 !

Here is a little sketch I did to announce commissions/art trades on my Tumblr & Twitter:

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Also - if lyrium is indeed alive and may belong to a Titan, why are living people needed for it to be grown/absorbed and then their corpse is mined for more?
 
*has a brainwave*
 
Ooooo.... what if humanity (and any other race) IS a Titan in itself?
 
You know, a bit like in Neon Genesis Evangelion?
 
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A "scattered" type of Titan, maybe vaguely connected in some intangible way through the Fade???? I mean, Cole himself alluded that Titan under Storm Coast is also a type of collective consciousness of some sort.
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I'd guess that since lyrium is alive, it needs the material of other living boides to grow. Just like we need food. We don't have to eat other humans, just other living things. Maybe it needs something specific inside the body, whatever it is in the blood that can be used to fuel magic?

 

Interestingly, regular lyrium doesn't start growing out of your body. (I think?) This makes the blight look exactly like a virus to me. It corrups living structures and re-programs them for the purpose of spreading itself.  


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Moar Descent-related, semi-insomniac musings (I'm in Redcliffe now with mah mage).

 

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I think that the song emanating from mined lyrium is an echo of the living, flowing song from pure "circulating" Titan's blood. I think of it (mined lyrium) as trace DNA or in simpler terms "dried up" Titan's blood which has no more connection to the Titan's, only an imprint of what was, like a memory. I believe that is why this mined lyrium can be infected by the blight while Titans and their "circulating Titan's blood" cannot.

 

I believe the Titans' song, the song that emanates from their blood, which must be much more potent than the song from mined lyrium is what keeps darkspawn back. I'm guessing that Titans (and Titan blood) can't be infected by the taint the way mined Lyrium can be. If Titan blood could be infected like Red Lyrium, then I don't think darkspawn would be afraid to venture in Titan territory. I'm guessing the song interferes with the calling, which is what drives the darkspawn away, probably from a type of sensory information/synaptic overload..

 

As for for your question "why are living people needed for it to be grown/absorbed and then their corpse is mined for more?"

 

I don't think living people are *needed* for it to be grown, it grows fine everywhere else on its own. Remember, red lyrium is infected with the blight. Its goal seems to be solely based on spreading, (I'm guessing it has to do with the *echo* of the song from the Titan's blood), rather than other biological beings which, once infected, go looking for the old gods because of the calling. With that notion in mind, I think it makes sense to then spread from the inside out, corrupting tissue and using it to propagate. The mining of the infected is just good business. Remember that we learn this information in a future where Corypheus had won. If a soldier can't fight, having been immobilized by too much growth, then mine him/her for more lyrium, more fuel. It's renewable energy. This way the soldiers keep serving (painfully) and nothing goes to waste. Great for Dictators that have no moral compass. So I don't think beings infected with red lyrium are compelled to mine other infected people, I just think it was ordered by Corypheus (or anyone with any business acumen that's also evil) as stated above.

 

Lastly, I doubt all races originate from Titans. It would make the Dwarven origin reveal pointless, irrelevant and quite frankly, disappointing. Also Dragons used to rule the skies in a time before the veil. I doubt they'd originate from the Titans as well.



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As for for your question "why are living people needed for it to be grown/absorbed and then their corpse is mined for more?"

 

I don't think living people are needed. Remember Red lyrium is infected with the blight. Its goal seems to be solely based on spreading, (I'm guessing it has to do with the *echo* of the song from the Titan's blood), rather than other biological beings which, once infected, go looking for the old gods because of the calling. With that notion in mind, I think it makes sense to then spread from the inside out, corrupting tissue and using it to propagate. The mining of the infected is just good business. Remember that we learn this information in a future where Corypheus had won. If a soldier can't fight, having been immobilized by too much growth, then mine him/her for more lyrium, more fuel. It's renewable energy. This way the soldiers keep serving (painfully) and nothing goes to waste. Great for Dictators that have no moral compass.

 

 

 

Red Lyrium feeds on the living and that's how it grows.

You learn that in Emprise Du Lion where Inquisition specialist talks about it .It even feeds on worms for example...so the funny thing is it would stop growing on a Blighted Land.

Normal Lyrium isn't working like that so it's probably a side effect of the taint.

 

Now the Blight coming from the Golden City is different.If a person gets tainted , and if you isolate them , well they will die after a while and you don't get more Blight.It kills and make living stuff decay but its way of spreading is the Darkspawn.

 

Also people infected with Red Lyrium , even when it's bad like Behemoth don't go digging for the Old Gods.

So chances are they are hearing a different song.


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I think that the song emanating from mined lyrium is an echo of the living, flowing song from pure "circulating" Titan's blood. I think of it (mined lyrium) as trace DNA or in simpler terms "dried up" Titan's blood which has no more connection to the Titan's, only an imprint of what was, like a memory. I believe that is why this mined lyrium can be infected by the blight while Titans and their "circulating Titan's blood" cannot.

 

We do know from Bianca and some of Cole's comments that lyrium on surface is alive, (she's made no distinction between lyrium on the surface and the mined one), angry (according to Cole) and the one on the surface keeps humming, singing and infecting, even if it does so at slower or less aggressive rate (unless it's cultivated from people, or so it seems).

 

It's possible that the purity of lyrium near the Titan makes it impossible for truly pure lyrium to be infected... but I'd say that while the lyrium reaching the surface may be less pure or potent, it's definitely still alive.

 

And then there's ancient thaig itself, in which we also see pure veins of Red Lyrium...

 

 

 

I believe the Titans' song, the song that emanates from their blood, which must be much more potent than the song from mined lyrium is what drives them back. I'm guessing that Titans (and Titan blood) can't be infected by the taint the way mined Lyrium can be. If Titan blood could be infected like Red Lyrium, then I don't think darkspawn would be afraid to venture in Titan territory.

 

Whatever the form of lyrium, 'pure' or 'mined', it doesn't seem to be affected or infected by darkspawn, but by some kind of special process - otherwise we'd see Red Lyrium long before Hawke and Varric discover it in ancient thaig.

In fact, it seems that the only way to 'infect' the lyrium - in surface or not - is through processes Corypheus has discovered, one of which involves using living bodies as apparent 'hosts' for growing Red Lyrium.

 

 

 

I don't think living people are needed. Remember Red lyrium is infected with the blight. Its goal seems to be solely based on spreading, (I'm guessing it has to do with the *echo* of the song from the Titan's blood), rather than other biological beings which, once infected, go looking for the old gods because of the calling. With that notion in mind, I think it makes sense to then spread from the inside out, corrupting tissue and using it to propagate. The mining of the infected is just good business. Remember that we learn this information in a future where Corypheus had won. If a soldier can't fight, having been immobilized by too much growth, then mine him/her for more lyrium, more fuel. It's renewable energy. This way the soldiers keep serving (painfully) and nothing goes to waste. Great for Dictators that have no moral compass.

 

In Redcliffe we see Fiona being infected, and alongside her, the companions we took, which I highly doubt have joined Corypheus, even after Inquisition fell. We also know that people have been disappearing, and we actually discover that the reason for their disappearing was to speed the grow of lyrium in many red lyrium mines - and especially in Emprise du Lion. In fact, we do know both from Emprise and quests in Emerald Graves that Corypheus and his lackeys have been amassing as many people as they could to keep cultivating Red Lyrium. So no, this wasn't just a matter of "recycling soldiers".

 

 

 

I doubt all races originate from Titans. It would make the Dwarven origin reveal pointless, irrelevant and quite frankly, disappointing. Also Dragons used to rule the skies in a time before the veil. I doubt they'd originate from the Titans as well.

 

How would that be disappointing? At this point we don't really know what Titans and their role is - it's however possible that they're part of greater whole and dwarves might have specific role, just like elves and humans or other races/Titans do in 'ecosystem' created between them. This might actually even explain Abelas or Solas repeating incessantly that elves are now not what "they were meant to be", as if they've had a specific role to play.

 

Also - why would dragons 'ruling the skies in a time before Veil' would mean that they didn't originate from Titans? When we know that "the blood of the dragons is the blood of this world"? What if Titans themselves are in fact draconic beings - or 'first children', with dragons actually being second and all other races beings somewhere next in line? We also have no idea whether only underground Titans or Titan-like entities exist, either within Thedas or the Fade/Void itself.


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Red Lyrium feeds on the living and that's how it grows.

You learn that in Emprise Du Lion where Inquisition specialist talks about it .It even feeds on worms for example...so the funny thing is it would stop growing on a Blighted Land.

Normal Lyrium isn't working like that so it's probably a side effect of the taint.

 

Now the Blight coming from the Golden City is different.If a person gets tainted , and if you isolate them , well they will die after a while and you don't get more Blight.It kills and make living stuff decay but its way of spreading is the Darkspawn.

 

Also people infected with Red Lyrium , even when it's bad like Behemoth don't go digging for the Old Gods.

So chances are they are hearing a different song.

 

 

"Also people infected with Red Lyrium , even when it's bad like Behemoth don't go digging for the Old Gods. So chances are they are hearing a different song."

 

That's the point I was making. I think the *echo* remaining in mined lyrium interferes with the calling which is what changes the behavior of those infected, compared to becoming ghouls when infected by the darkspawn for example. As for red lyriums nature.

 

"Red lyrium is typically found in crystalline form, as with normal lyrium. It is known to thin the Veil, allowing spirits or more likely demons to interact with the physical world[2], and emanates a noticeable heat[3]. Where it was originally found, red lyrium grew in root-like veins[4], again like normal lyrium. But following the opening of the Breach, it began appearing throughout the surface of all of Southern Thedas in crystalline nodes. These crystals grow almost anywhere, though the composition of the earth can affect their growth."

 

2. Haunted
3. At least Dorian and Iron Bull banter imply this
4. As seen in the Primeval Thaig

 

"Normal Lyrium isn't working like that so it's probably a side effect of the taint."

 

I agree.



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How would that be disappointing? At this point we don't really know what Titans and their role is - it's however possible that they're part of greater whole and dwarves might have specific role, just like elves and humans or other races/Titans do in 'ecosystem' created between them. This might actually even explain Abelas or Solas repeating incessantly that elves are now not what "they were meant to be", as if they've had a specific role to play.

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We do know from Bianca and some of Cole's comments that lyrium on surface is alive, (she's made no distinction between lyrium on the surface and the mined one), angry (according to Cole) and the one on the surface keeps humming, singing and infecting, even if it does so at slower or less aggressive rate (unless it's cultivated from people, or so it seems).

 

It's possible that the purity of lyrium near the Titan makes it impossible for truly pure lyrium to be infected... but I'd say that while the lyrium reaching the surface may be less pure or potent, it's definitely still alive.

 

And then there's ancient thaig itself, in which we also see pure veins of Red Lyrium...

 

When I say "mined Lyrium" I mean Lyrium that isn't circulating within a Titan, that includes lyrium found on the surface as well as underground. I know it's "alive". That definition however can be interpreted in many ways. I compare it to DNA and the fact that it has an imprint of the Titans left within it, a memory of what was. It's why the song can still be heard. Valta talks about remembering things long forgotten when she connects with the Titans. However, Dagna also experiences things while working with a lyrium rune, almost like memories from the Titan it came from.

 

as for the Red lyrium found in the Primeval Thaig:

 

What I think happened with red lyrium that's more likely is that once the Dwarves branched off from their brethren, chaos ensued. Think of it, their whole outlook on life would have changed. They would probably relish their freedom yet feel like something was missing, an emptiness where once there was a song, warmth and reassurance. Without the Titan symbiosis, I think Dwarves found different ways to cope, some better than others.

 

I believe that the profane for example are a product of this hardship

 

We who are forgotten, remember (forgotten by the Dwarves who stayed with the Titans)

 

We clawed at rock until our fingers bled, (they either wanted to rejoin their brethren, begging them to let them return to the stone or they wandered the deep roads and found themselves literally trapped or imprisoned)

 

What Valta described comes to mind "fell into a warm light's embrace", as if returning to the Stone.

 

We cried out for justice, but were unheard. (neither the Titans nor their brethren could hear them)
 

Our children wept in hunger, (literal)
 

And so we feasted upon the gods. (they feasted upon Titan's blood, without being part of them, which, I'm guessing, is blasphemy. It's also noted that they still rememeber the Titans, so this is very old indeed)

 

Here we wait, in aeons of silence. (silence, because they can't hear the song)

 

We few, we profane (based on their actions, they consider themselves profane, literally split from the "gods" "teachings" (in this case the hive mind or the empathic symbiosis they had with the Titans).

 

I think something similar happened with the Primeval Thaig. I believe that some Dwarves who separated from the Titans couldn't cope with the silence (the lack of Titan symbiosis). This drove them to look for an alternative. I believe Dumat called out and they heard. I think they willingly corrupted the lyrium and were in turn corrupted in order to hear the calling, something to fill the silence. Their connection to lyrium might have still been strong, stronger than it is with modern day Dwarves at the very least.  This is probably how red lyrium came to be. The Thaig might have been shaped with magic before it was corrupted also, keep that in mind. I don't have any details, but it seems like the most logical explanation in my mind.

 

 

Whatever the form of lyrium, 'pure' or 'mined', it doesn't seem to be affected or infected by darkspawn, but by some kind of special process - otherwise we'd see Red Lyrium long before Hawke and Varric discover it in ancient thaig.

In fact, it seems that the only way to 'infect' the lyrium - in surface or not - is through processes Corypheus has discovered, one of which involves using living bodies as apparent 'hosts' for growing Red Lyrium.

 

Not necessarily,

 

"But following the opening of the Breach, it began appearing throughout the surface of all of Southern Thedas in crystalline nodes. These crystals grow almost anywhere, though the composition of the earth can affect their growth"

 

The breach seems to have affected the red lyrium as if pulling it to the surface, a if the fade itself was calling out to it. Also Red lyrium has the effect of thinning the veil. If the red lyrium was only found in the deep roads and was sealed away or secluded, that could easily explain the lack of its appearance until the breach opened. The fact that Corypheus later found out it was actually infected by the blight and decided to cultivate and experiment with it also would have driven its spread through Thedas and it's growth.

 

In Redcliffe we see Fiona being infected, and alongside her, the companions we took, which I highly doubt have joined Corypheus, even after Inquisition fell. We also know that people have been disappearing, and we actually discover that the reason for their disappearing was to speed the grow of lyrium in many red lyrium mines - and especially in Emprise du Lion. In fact, we do know both from Emprise and quests in Emerald Graves that Corypheus and his lackeys have been amassing as many people as they could to keep cultivating Red Lyrium. So no, this wasn't just a matter of "recycling soldiers".

 

Why are you talking about our companions? I never talked about them joining Corypheus, I was stating that the soldiers under Corypheus' orders mined red lyrium from failed experiments and soldiers that were in later stages of infection that couldn't fight for him etc. I was giving examples as to the fact that Red Lyrium doesn't *compel* you to mine it. Fiona was infected and she is the one that explains what they do with people that are in the advanced stages of red lyrium infection, like she was. Being immobile with immense growth, her body is ripe for the "picking" (pun intended). As I stated above, those disappearances were for many reasons namely experimentation and propagation. I wasn't just saying that it was just a matter of "recycling soldiers", that's just a smart way of using the soldiers that can't fight anymore. Corypheus used the nature of red lyrium to his advantage, using people to create red lyrium at a faster rate, in order to fuel his powers and his army ergo "recycling" for renewable energy.

 

How would that be disappointing? At this point we don't really know what Titans and their role is - it's however possible that they're part of greater whole and dwarves might have specific role, just like elves and humans or other races/Titans do in 'ecosystem' created between them. This might actually even explain Abelas or Solas repeating incessantly that elves are now not what "they were meant to be", as if they've had a specific role to play.

 

Also - why would dragons 'ruling the skies in a time before Veil' would mean that they didn't originate from Titans? When we know that "the blood of the dragons is the blood of this world"? What if Titans themselves are in fact draconic beings - or 'first children', with dragons actually being second and all other races beings somewhere next in line? We also have no idea whether only underground Titans or Titan-like entities exist, either within Thedas or the Fade/Void itself.

 

It would be disappointing to *me* because they just introduced a very interesting piece of lore that make the Dwarves unique and that explains a lot of things that have slowly been built up and hinted at. Having everyone originate from the same source would in my opinion, disregard this revelation and lessen it.

 

I believe what Abelas or Solas meant when they said elves are now not what "they were meant to be", is pertaining to the fall of the Elvhen people. Given they both look down on the Dalish, calling them foolish and children, it wouldn't really seem like a stretch.

 

I also believe Titans ruled the earth as Dragons ruled the skies. I also believe Elves are synonymous with Dragons the way Dwarves are with Titans.

 

Lastly Ancient Elvhen people would seem to have been hunting the Titans and Dwarves.

 

"In this place we prepare to hunt the pillars of the earth. Their workers scurry, witless, soulless. This death will be a mercy. We will make the earth blossom with their passing."

 

With their knowledge in mind, why would they do this if they had some connection to the Titans.

 

Titans are the stone, they are part of the earth. i doubt they reside in The Fade given their nature.

 

The reason we can find lyrium in The Fade however?

 

"Why are the laws of the Maker bent but not fully broken? Why does a book not turn into a dragon, or a statue explode into countless shards of energy? The answer, I believe, lies in the fact that the items we see in the Fade were most often made by the hands of men".

More than that though. If we are to assume Titans were the antithesis to The Fade or rather that Titan "magic" is a different aspect of the same coin like yin and yang or nagative and positive charges, than we can assume that they can influence each other to strike a natural balance. I believe Lyrium found in the fade is the product of a time before the veil. I also think it might keep the "laws" of the maker from being completely broken as referenced in that part of the codex.

 

Anyways this last part is what I believe, part of my theories, because I think it makes sense. I'm not suggesting its how things are, simply the way I think things are.


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Thanks!

 

Also, way to go Solas, the Breach is unstable, the Mark is unstable, soldiers from Haven are struggling to fight off the demons... But do go on about how the Dalish didn't like you  -_-

 

I thought the (somewhat) interesting part about that banter was that he mentions the hostility of the Dalish in response to Lavellan saying something contradictory to his experience - it's not why he brought it up. He wanted to know, "did they send you here?" and says he knows enough to be suspicious. I just wondered if it was a more mundane thing, like suspecting the truth - you were sent to spy - or more about what was really going on.



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I thought the (somewhat) interesting part about that banter was that he mentions the hostility of the Dalish in response to Lavellan saying something contradictory to his experience - it's not why he brought it up. He wanted to know, "did they send you here?" and says he knows enough to be suspicious. I just wondered if it was a more mundane thing, like suspecting the truth - you were sent to spy - or more about what was really going on.


Yeah, I did find the 'know enough to be suspicious' line, well, suspicious. My guess is he's probably talking about Lavellan being sent to the conclave as a spy.

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Has anyone considered Who Knew? by Pink as a Solas song?

 

Just wondering.


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Has anyone considered Who Knew? by Pink as a Solas song?

 

Just wondering.

nope!! I am Janic99 here if you do not know me:



I think I am one of the people who is one of the requested ppl to make Solavellan vids MV's and Tributes :D if you want I could try to make a vid for ya... here is my latest video...



though most of the ppl liked this one haha even though it  was one of the first ones I made and not too well made sadly :/ :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x46QHercK4s



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nope!! I am Janic99 here if you do not know me:



I think I am one of the people who is one of the requested ppl to make Solavellan vids MV's and Tributes :D if you want I could try to make a vid for ya... here is my latest video...



though most of the ppl liked this one haha even though it  was one of the first ones I made and not too well made sadly :/ :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x46QHercK4s

 

If you want to and feel like it, feel free.  I just thought some of the lyrics sound like Lavellan after he leaves...  I even think the devs said that the timeframe was around three years, so the line, "three years from now/You'd be long gone" is kind of appropriate...

 

I don't guess I've encountered you much, because I left the forums for a good long while.  But I was one of the first people in the Solas threads, so probably there are one or two around who still remember me.  I tend to either make goofy comments or theories, mostly.  Lately I don't feel like I've got much to contribute, however.


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If you want to and feel like it, feel free.  I just thought some of the lyrics sound like Lavellan after he leaves...  I even think the devs said that the timeframe was around three years, so the line, "three years from now/You'd be long gone" is kind of appropriate...

 

I don't guess I've encountered you much, because I left the forums for a good long while.  But I was one of the first people in the Solas threads, so probably there are one or two around who still remember me.  I tend to either make goofy comments or theories, mostly.  Lately I don't feel like I've got much to contribute, however.

Oh I am personally not on these forums too often. Just read some comments and sometimes comment and secretly like everything hahaha. I personally was here some time ago but not too much anymore heh. I saw how ppl had super many theories and never exactly talked to me if I said something or asked a question. I felt kinda.. well.. better not to talk but just follow... lol or IF I had sth to say that I had to I would respond and that is how I am now. But please let me listen the song. I personally like Pink but I doubt I have heard this song before ^^ 



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If you want to and feel like it, feel free.  I just thought some of the lyrics sound like Lavellan after he leaves...  I even think the devs said that the timeframe was around three years, so the line, "three years from now/You'd be long gone" is kind of appropriate...

 

I don't guess I've encountered you much, because I left the forums for a good long while.  But I was one of the first people in the Solas threads, so probably there are one or two around who still remember me.  I tend to either make goofy comments or theories, mostly.  Lately I don't feel like I've got much to contribute, however.

Oh and that song is perfect.. def gonna make a video ^^ Thank ypu for saying that! It's gonna take a day or two though :D I'll post it here. I think I'll start tomorrow probably because it's pretty late here where I live right now ^^ But I saved the song.. I love it! Thank you for the idea!! Also the part '' You took my hand you showed me how '' it's like the first scene '' Quickly! Before more come through! '' scene :D perfect!! I already have a good idea!


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I saw how ppl had super many theories and never exactly talked to me if I said something or asked a question. I felt kinda.. well.. better not to talk but just follow...


:( :( :(

So sorry if you've had that experience in the past.

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Just a little art to share

 

Solas and Lavellan in a field of flowers

http://boldegoist.de...Solas-555336141

 

Magic

http://mashmallama.d...Magic-555434503

 

 

and no Solas...but I really like the the Inquisitor's ball gown in this

http://adelaiy.devia...rlais-555470777


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It's okay it's okay ^^ I did not get mad I just felt like it's better not to talk too much here.. also I uh.. started to make vids.. like a loads of them because I love video editing plus I am also an artist so I do fan art but yeah posting the vids in the ends no one really cared either well lol probably a couple of ppl. Only ones on youtube hehe so I was like: '' These ppl are good ppl but I guess they have other things to do '' 
Because originally I started making and editing the vids just for all the Solavellan fans. Ppl were like '' omg if someone just made a vid of this song of solavellan... '' 

I did their wishes. Now I haven't gotten too many likes about one or 2 on my latest vids which well it's kinda okay I am not forcing. I still share cause some ppl want to see ^^ So yeah. I have got many requests but some I cannot just do because of my time and the amount of requests and I need to hear the song and the lyrics to see how they fit and how many scenes I can get to match because I do not want to do a vid that is super bad witch words of the song and stuff not matching the stuff soo... yeah. :D but maybe in time I might start to hang out here again :D well yea.. sorry for the long message ^^ thank you for what you said anyways ^^ 


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Moar Descent-related, semi-insomniac musings (I'm in Redcliffe now with mah mage).

 

Spoiler

 

 

I think this is absolutely true.  (Where's Gwyvian when we need her?  TwT  I'm terrible at explaining Jungian concepts.)   From a certain perspective, the sentient beings of Thedas form its conscious mind- the raw Fade being a literal representation of the collective unconscious, the "hive mind" of sentient life.   There are multiple in-game suggestions that the DA universe is fractal, and in the largest scope, everyone from the "Gods" to the lowest scullery maid in Skyhold can be conceived as functional parts of a single entity working slowly through the process of individuation.  As Cole mentions in Hakkon, describing both Creators and the Created: "They're not so different, Hakon. Just another pair of boots to walk the same road."

 

On an almost-completely-unrelated note, I just stumbled over this description of a purple maul on a Crestwood vendor:

 

The Call of the Dark

"Lusacan, the Dragon of Night, calls to you. He lives where it is darkest and waits for the day he will rise. Drink of his blood and know the power in darkness: either fear the Night or wield it."

 

This is doing terrible, terrible things to my understanding of red lyrium.  On the one hand, it does seem to support the theory that Elgar'nan (Lusacan) is the False Sun, the dark Maker, the "fire at the heart of the world".  I believe his blood is the "darkness and corruption" that Corypheus encountered in the Black City. "We discovered the darkness. We claimed it as our own, let it permeate our being."  This seems entirely in line with what Hawke discovers when Corypheus first wakes:  a magister fused not with red lyrium, but black.  

 

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At this point, he still calls out to Dumat for aid, still describes himself as a servant of the Gods.  It isn't until we see him again in Inquisition that this dark lyrium changes.

 

Spoiler

 

So what actually changed?  The answer seems to be Corypheus himself.  "I have gathered the will to return under no name but my own, to champion withered Tevinter and correct this blighted world.  The "chaos" will empower me, and ensure we no longer beg at the feet of the invisible."

 

*clutches at her head*   

 

Although I still suspect Elgar'nan is a fragment of an even older being more directly tied to Void, Cold, and Darkness, I think he's the direct source of what we know of as blight.  Darkspawn mages are described as casting spells of "black flame", archdemons belch violet "un-light" instead of fire, and I think the connection to his dark Fade is the source of Warden nightmares.  My hunch is that in trying to extend his dominion to the power of free will - the Sun's domain- Elgar'nan combined the Darkness and the Flame, creating something far worse than either.  

 

So was it always red lyrium, but inactive?  Or did the lyrium itself undergo a fundamental change?   We know from Dagna that the sample of red lyrium she was provided was blighted, but is that actually its defining characteristic?  If red lyrium weren't blighted... would it be blue?  Or would it be pure Will- flame without the darkness?

 

Ugh.  Red lyrium, the Sun, and the Sundered Song all used to make sense in my head.  Now it's a mess again.  

 

WEEKES.


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Annnnnd I still haven't played through Descent yet. Lol. Makes for a tricky business, being on these boards and closing my eyes and hitting the scroll button whenever I see mention of Titans. ^.^ I'm definitely going to spend all of Sunday leveling up so I can finally get onto that. When this happens, be prepared for my mind dump post. I've speculated a lot previously about the whole lyrium/blood/dwarves/fade link, and I get the feeling I may have hit pretty close prior to the DLC coming out. So now I'm all hyped.


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#111023
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I'm doing the same. I have to scroll past anything that isn't under a spoiler cut. I've been trying to finish but life has been busy these past couple of days.



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This is a good reminder for folks to tag spoilers for at least another couple of weeks. Folks are still finishing, or just getting to play Descent, and it's no fun for them to have to completely avoid how awesome we are until they're done. :P


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Why is the DA Twitter page posting this all of a sudden ? https://twitter.com/...150584098615296

 

Maybe because Coryphefish was not and who is will be revealed at the next DLC?

 

Is this a foreshadowing to a possible battle with The Dread Egg Wolf ? I mean Coryphenus is old news now. Why bring him up ?

 

Fighting him would hurt...badly...

 

However, this is Bioware we are talking about...They are like the Nightmare at Adamant...They thrive on the tears, feels, and despair of their fans...

 

This will result in a gathering of angry, heartbroken elf women armed with various sharp and blunt instruments on Bioware's office at Edmonton...


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