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Bioware writers like to be tricky, but I wouldn't go and say that they put red herrings everywhere :) Too much of that and it would become counter-productive.

 

Eclipses were always pretty significant, be it in reality or in fiction, and if anything, I've noticed BW doesn't stray from using such elements in their stories (magic/life = song is another good example, as is red=evil-ish/angry/dark and blue=mysterious/good-ish/god-ish).

 

We also know that eclipses WERE mentioned, in relation to none other than Fen'Harel:

 

 

It would be especially symbolic in case of Fen'Harel, who, as I explained, draws a lot from Nordic myths about Fenrir - and Fenrir (or its offspring) is known to bring about Ragnarok by swallowing the sun. It could be beautifully symbolized by eclipse as well.

 

I also wouldn't be surprised if sun didn't play a special, if not literal role in perhaps powering up the Veil? Maybe this is why Veil may be thinner by night, or why Fade and Beyond has been symbolically equated to 'night'. So if eclipse happened during the day, and 'night' happened, it may disturb the cycle. It may also - symbolically or literally - temporarily merge both Fade and Thedas, which may help someone accomplish things that are impossible otherwise.

 

 

 

Oh, that's just Pala, a new Multiplayer character :) I don't think she's in any way significant, when it comes to story itself.

 

All valid views, though I don't think any of them discount my own theory on the circles symbolic of the uniting of Fade and World. And while we are on the topic of Fen'Harel stirring, it is actually one of the sources I use to back up my theory as it is something we theorize he wants to do -- unite the two again. :)

Pala may not be significant, but still pretty cool having a Silent Sister around!

Question! Because you have me curious, now -- which part of the lore mentions the Fade being thinner by night? I know it gets thin where there has been plenty of death. Does it get thin when the sun goes down as well?



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All valid views, though I don't think any of them discount my own theory on the circles symbolic of the uniting of Fade and World. And while we are on the topic of Fen'Harel stirring, it is actually one of the sources I use to back up my theory as it is something we theorize he wants to do -- unite the two again. :)

 

I think uniting the two may be a distant dream of his, and it might as well be his ultimate goal, though I have my doubts whether it's the best idea for it to happen in any foreseeable future. Whatever the Veil is, lifting it without annihilating well... everything? is probably trickier than we think.

 

In fact we saw what happens if the Veil shatters via manipulations of Corypheus in dark future in Redcliffe during mage alliance quest and Solas is pretty adamant that this world is an abomination and it must never come to pass.

 

 

 

 

Question! Because you have me curious, now -- which part of the lore mentions the Fade being thinner by night? I know it gets thin where there has been plenty of death. Does it get thin when the sun goes down as well?

 

It's from World Of Thedas, vol. 1 - you can find it quoted on Dragonage wiki about the Veil - the Veil is particularly thin at night, when most people sleep and spirits are most active.

 

Therefore there might as well be connection with the sun. Or why any Orzammar dwarf may be rendered casteless if they even take a small peek at it (or why dwarves living on surface lose their resistance to lyrium, that appears to be only skin-deep).

 

Come to think of it, eclipse may indeed be a threat to the cycle, assuming that a.) there is a cycle, b.) Thedas lies on a planet and celestial bodies act similarly to ours, c.) the Veil covers entirety of the planet, or at least significant portions of it. 

 

If all these things are true, then the sun will naturally always power at least half of the Veil every time, even if portions of the Veil on unlit side of planet get somewhat thinner. But with moon as big as we see it in DAI, it's possible that sunlight might be temporarily entirely blocked away, de-powering the Veil and having unknown consequences.


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Art break. :wizard:

 

Solas is a coffee elf.  ^_^

 

Nice Fen'Harel portrait.

 

Liz's lovely artwork of Solas in his Hierophant outfit.

 

Some Solas sketches.

 

Doughnut Rebel fanart! :D Local baker stays up late designing new donuts for "...reasons"

 

Solas looking serious.

 

Solas the egg. (I'm not sure what else to call this. xD)

 

Solas is ready for a nap. (Cute!)

 

Requests done during a livestream. Solas (with a frilly cake) and Anders (with a Ser Pounce-a-lot).

 

DAI in hipster/street fashion.

 

And some links:

 

Lovely artwork of Solas and Lavellan cuddling in bed. (NSFW for nudity)

Solavellan for the kiss meme: Kiss along the hips. (NSFW) They're clothed, but keeping this as a link, just in case. (EDIT: Link fixed!)


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Was playing The Descent but then my game just crashed and went poof instantly, so I figured good enough time to stop, since it's late. I found a gear that I was trying to reach and I just do not know how anyone could possibly reach it.

 

Solas surprised me but it also made me laugh since he had a line out of nowhere but (not an actual spoiler but in case anyone wants to really be fresh)

 

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I will say again that the decision to bring Cole was a good one.


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The moon is made by Mythal.. So there's that to consider while thinking about eclipses. Perhaps she can wake Fen'harel from Uthenera with an eclipse when he is "needed" by the people.

 

Elgar'nan is the "eldest of the sun" and supposedly hid the sun away for a time because it scorched the earth. I feel like this is symbolic for something to do with the fade. And "drops of the sun's lifeblood" became the stars, which Andruil made into a spear and sacrificed her people with.

 

Now that I think of it, in the Still Ruins where time had stopped we see that orb with blood. That wasn't a representation of an eclipse was it? It's seemingly powered by the Avvar staff called Tempest - http://dragonage.wik...Tempest_(staff).

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I think that looks like an eclipse but it might be another thing we look too much into. II wonder though.

 

I am really curious what they're announcing at PAX.

 

Creative inspiration sometimes just comes at weird times. I was about to go to bed, then saw a Twitter conversation with Weekes that reinforced a thread with regards to my Lavellan and now I want to write again. :mellow:


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I think that looks like an eclipse but it might be another thing we look too much into. II wonder though.

 

Yep looking too much into things is what keeps me going :lol:.


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Solavellan for the kiss meme: Kiss along the hips. (NSFW) They're clothed, but keeping this as a link, just in case.

I cannot get this link to work? Maybe it's just me.



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I cannot get this link to work? Maybe it's just me.

 

Oops! Sorry! D: I'll fix that. In the meantime, here's the link (NSFW)http://harellanart.t...mbo-of-numbers 


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Oops! Sorry! D: I'll fix that. In the meantime, here's the link (NSFW): http://harellanart.t...mbo-of-numbers 

That was totally worth it hahaha


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I think uniting the two may be a distant dream of his, and it might as well be his ultimate goal, though I have my doubts whether it's the best idea for it to happen in any foreseeable future. Whatever the Veil is, lifting it without annihilating well... everything? is probably trickier than we think.

 

In fact we saw what happens if the Veil shatters via manipulations of Corypheus in dark future in Redcliffe during mage alliance quest and Solas is pretty adamant that this world is an abomination and it must never come to pass.

 

 

 

It's from World Of Thedas, vol. 1 - you can find it quoted on Dragonage wiki about the Veil - the Veil is particularly thin at night, when most people sleep and spirits are most active.

 

Therefore there might as well be connection with the sun. Or why any Orzammar dwarf may be rendered casteless if they even take a small peek at it (or why dwarves living on surface lose their resistance to lyrium, that appears to be only skin-deep).

 

Come to think of it, eclipse may indeed be a threat to the cycle, assuming that a.) there is a cycle, b.) Thedas lies on a planet and celestial bodies act similarly to ours, c.) the Veil covers entirety of the planet, or at least significant portions of it. 

 

If all these things are true, then the sun will naturally always power at least half of the Veil every time, even if portions of the Veil on unlit side of planet get somewhat thinner. But with moon as big as we see it in DAI, it's possible that sunlight might be temporarily entirely blocked away, de-powering the Veil and having unknown consequences.

Oh okay! Cool! I only recalled the whole death/magic things as weakening the Veil. I will address that then, but bear with me:
It's possible they are one and the same, the circles representative of the Fade/Waking World, and an eclipse of sorts. If an eclipse heralded the magic necessary someone would need to craft such a thing as the Veil, it makes sense that the power might wax and wane with the coming and going of the body(s) in the sky. So following this line of thought, then at night the Veil would weaken when the sun goes down, and strengthen in daylight with its return. I get it, I do.

But in processing this information, I think a far more likely scenario of why the Veil would weaken at night is because people are more apt to dream  -- thus, they attract spirits... and with more activity, the Veil is pressed thin. So I attribute that side-effect to dreams, and not because the sun is absent. To me, the "eclipse" still seems far more indicative of two halves uniting (Fade/Waking World). One half has the power to imagine, the other half has the power to create -- combined, it is creation. Life. Blooming flowers. Of course this is all just my head canon speaking and we won't know the answer to this until who knows when!

Sidenote! So let's say I'm wrong though, and it is all historically recounting/foreshadowing an eclipse of the real kind: wouldn't it be funny if one part of the eclipse was actually a distantly orbiting body that came close only every thousand years or so-- and it was just a gigantic chunk of lyrium? ... the Magisters would have had a much easier time with that than they did with three quarters of Tevinter's stash and a load of elven slaves.

And another sidenote: Lyrium is able to bridge the gap between the Fade and Thedas. Initially (as you got me thumbing through my WoT I book), it is said that lyrium is the only known non-living thing to contain the essence of magic (and the essence of all creation). Of course thanks to Bianca and The Descent, we know lyrium is living -- and Titans seem to have it as their life blood. So I wonder exactly at the degree of power a Titan is capable of. The potential not just to shape the world, but to create it? Can they interact with the Fade, can they enter the Fade -- or are they too tied down? I'm excited for more lore. DLC please. :)

 

Solas wearing Qunari armor by ChuChu! xD

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<snip>

 

I've wanted to conduct this experiment for a while -- if I don't post something on the BSN, will Capricorn have my back and do it for me? Experiment successful. You passed, Capricorn!! -gives cookies-

 

Yay! :D

 

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BTW someone on Tumblr just shared some flycam shots of Solas before he leaves the Inquisition and he looks so sad. :(

 

Source: http://mezilandre.tu...n-his-face-when

 

tumblr_ntjwwrd81M1u8a3yuo1_1280.jpg

 

More under the tag.

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My heart broke a little...


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Yay! :D

 

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BTW someone on Tumblr just shared some flycam shots of Solas before he leaves the Inquisition and he looks so sad. :(

 

Source: http://mezilandre.tu...n-his-face-when

 

tumblr_ntjwwrd81M1u8a3yuo1_1280.jpg

 

More under the tag.

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My heart broke a little...

Ack the feels! I just want to give him a hug. :crying:


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[snipped sadness]

 

My heart broke a little...

 

Oh god, the way he looks towards the Inqi and the companions..


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But on another note (same tumblr as the above pic)

(source: http://mezilandre.tumblr.com/ )

 

Vivienne refers to him as an "unwashed apostate hobo", yet her nose betrays her lmao

Yessss... breath in that wolfy goodness Viv. You cannot resist! :devil:

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Q. I seem to dimly remember something in... Maybe DA2, about an organization that was trying to make a connection between the forgotten ones and the forbidden ones. Does this ring a bell? Maybe the band of three? I am theory crafting today.

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There was a promo trailer for DAI with Varric and Solas in a tavern right as the Breach happened. I wanted to see if anyone has a link to it before I go searching the depths of Google.



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There was a promo trailer for DAI with Varric and Solas in a tavern right as the Breach happened. I wanted to see if anyone has a link to it before I go searching the depths of Google.

This one?


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Q. I seem to dimly remember something in... Maybe DA2, about an organization that was trying to make a connection between the forgotten ones and the forbidden ones. Does this ring a bell? Maybe the band of three? I am theory crafting today.

Yes. Particularly these two codex entries:

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This one?

Yes..thank you.

 

I thought Solas was in it too though?  Maybe I'm thinking of something else?



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Yes..thank you.

 

I thought Solas was in it too though?  Maybe I'm thinking of something else?

 

He is, 0:27 & 0:31, look at the background.


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Yes..thank you.

 

I thought Solas was in it too though?  Maybe I'm thinking of something else?

He is, but easy to miss. And answered before I could hit 'post'. :D

 

He is, 0:27 & 0:31, look at the background.


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I guess I need to turn up the gamma in my monitor..it's much too dark for me to see anything in the background. :-P  I kind of see a glowing white ball that could be his head...lol.


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I guess I need to turn up the gamma in my monitor..it's much too dark for me to see anything in the background. :-P  I kind of see a glowing white ball that could be his head...lol.

 

I'm not sure why, but this made me laugh sooooo hard XD


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That's either his bald head you see or the torch above his head. :lol:


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