Yes..thank you.
I thought Solas was in it too though? Maybe I'm thinking of something else?
He is, 0:27 & 0:31, look at the background.
Solas is actually one of the things you need to click to get the Red Lyrium Reaper weapons. Dunno if that challange is still going or if it was a pre-release thing.
Solas is actually one of the things you need to click to get the Red Lyrium Reaper weapons. Dunno if that challange is still going or if it was a pre-release thing.
I don't think so. I tried clicking on him and nothing happened (unless you do more than click him when he appears in the background)
Oh yeah I remember doing all that stuff...I was on my laptop at the time...hehe..I probably never would have gotten those weapons on this desk top.
Solas is actually one of the things you need to click to get the Red Lyrium Reaper weapons. Dunno if that challange is still going or if it was a pre-release thing.
The Wolf has run out of Red Lyrium weapons so, no this challenge is not on anymoar.
By the way, what could be linking Solas and the Qunari ? The next DLC is something concerning the Qunari, hence we get the rip-off known as thee Spoils of the Qunari. However, what would an ancient elf have anything to do with the Qunari ?
The Wolf has run out of Red Lyrium weapons so, no this challenge is not on anymoar.
By the way, what could be linking Solas and the Qunari ? The next DLC is something concerning the Qunari, hence we get the rip-off known as thee Spoils of the Qunari. However, what would an ancient elf have anything to do with the Qunari ?
There is something somewhere about Elves being susceptible to being converted to the Qun...Maybe Solas knows more about the Qun then others? He's pretty vocal about his dislike (to put it mildly) of the Qun and Qunari.
I don't think so. I tried clicking on him and nothing happened (unless you do more than click him when he appears in the background)
It's the version of the video on the DAI site, not youtube. It was a challange run in the weeks leading up to the game coming out.
There is something somewhere about Elves being susceptible to being converted to the Qun...Maybe Solas knows more about the Qun then others? He's pretty vocal about his dislike (to put it mildly) of the Qun and Qunari.
Did the Qun even exist in the time of Ancient Elvhenan ? The Kossith might have existed then but not the Qun. Now if we assume that Fen'Harel took on the role of Shartan, even during then, the Qun did not exist.
Solas hates the Qun due to the fact it turns people into unthinking creatures devoid of freedom. A soulless husk, if you will. But I doubt he knows more about the Qun specifically. He might know about the Kossith and what was done to them to create the Qunari, the mistake that Corypheus refers to if you play as a Qunari Inquisitor but that's about it.
The Wolf has run out of Red Lyrium weapons so, no this challenge is not on anymoar.
By the way, what could be linking Solas and the Qunari ? The next DLC is something concerning the Qunari, hence we get the rip-off known as thee Spoils of the Qunari. However, what would an ancient elf have anything to do with the Qunari ?
Exert from my (Major Spoilers) Accumulated Lore, Ancient (Elvhen), SolaFen + Theories & Discussions thread:
We know there were seven Great Dragon's (Old Gods) imprisoned and "dreaming" in the deep roads (so too are the Elvhen gods described to be in a deep slumber). We know Corypheus claims he heard "Dead" whispers in The Golden City but only saw chaos and corruption. The Fade and Thedas, separated by the veil. Spirit separated from the physical... Uthenera. What if the veil was created specifically to keep body and spirit separate. What if those great dragon's are the physical representation of the Elvhen Pantheon. What if their spirits were locked away in The Fade, in the Golden City perhaps, or more likely with the use of eluvians somewhere else. Again, more questions. The Great Dragons could also have been aspects of the Elvhen Pantheon, physical representations that they created either to serve them or to use as vessels the way spirits do when they possess the living.
If The Elvhen pantheons' spirits were split from their Great Dragon bodies, it could also explain why the dragons are now savage and unable to speak "intelligibly". If my theory is right and "The Forgotten Ones" are the ones that whispered to the Magisters and are the ones who usurp the Old God bodies, then it would make sense that only the Darkspawn and Wardens hear the Archdemon communicate through the taint. The only thing that has me perplexed is the dark ritual. If Kieran has an Old God soul, what then, does that entail? FleMythal absorbs it into herself, but when she takes it out of Kieran, clearly it is immaterial, energy. This is the one flaw in my theory that is gnawing at me. Maybe awakening an Old God breaks Uthenera (like I speculated above, which could be a way to keep the Elvhen Pantheon in The Fade) and the soul is "awakened" and therefore restored. That however, would be quite a sloppy way to have imprisoned such powerful beings. I doubt Fen'Harel went through the trouble of creating the veil with Mythal if it would have been so easy... Anyways, moving forward.
If your Inquisitor is Elvhen, Kieran also goes on to say that he doesn't know why the Inquisitor's people "want to look like that" and that their blood is "very old". This could be a reference to The Old Gods as well, or at the very least a hint that the Elvhen people could shapeshift at one point (perhaps in a time before the veil), the same way Flemythal and Morrigan (if you let her drink from the well of souls) did.
If dragons ruled the skies before the veil, I wonder, would they then represent the Elvhen people. Let me elaborate. If the Elvhen people were dragons, then High Dragons maybe would represent the Elvhen High priests for example. I make this comparison because of the following quote (which ironically comes from an unlikely source).
The Tome of Koslun, the sacred Qunari scripture explicitly says that "the Old Gods were like unto dragons, as the first human kings were like unto ordinary men".
So The Elvhen Pantheon=Old Gods i.e. Great Dragons, High Dragons=Elvhen High Priests, Dragons=Elvhen People... just an interesting theory. Also don't worry about gender association. The fact that high Dragons are all females isn't important given that I don't believe this has any bearing on spirits, it is rather explained in biological terms. Also the Old Gods all being Great Dragons and mostly depicted as male would also support my opinion on the fact. Anyways, moving on.
(Sorry for that long-winded theory part but I wanted to establish my theories on the connection between Dragons & The Elvhen Pantheon before making the connection between Elvhen and Qunari for the underlined quote above)
Maybe it has less to do with the "Qunari" and more to do with Koslun. I.e. The kossith and what led to Koslun creating the Qun. I find it suspicious that Koslun would have any knowledge of the Old Gods otherwise. He was described as a traveler however and it was stated the he traveled far and wide. Perhaps he happened on the Tevinter Imperium or the time before. I forget exactly when Koslun was born.
Also it's speculated that the people from Par Vollen worshipped figures who resembled the "Qunari" race,which is why they didn't put up a fight when the Qunari invaded. This seems to be tied to Dragons somehow.
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Solavellan for the kiss meme: Romantic kiss.
Solavellan for the 'redraw your otp' meme.
Cute Solas and Lavellan WIP sketch.
WIP Solavellan fluff.
Fen'Harel sketch.
Exert from my (Major Spoilers) Accumulated Lore, Ancient (Elvhen), SolaFen + Theories & Discussions thread:
We know there were seven Great Dragon's (Old Gods) imprisoned and "dreaming" in the deep roads (so too are the Elvhen gods described to be in a deep slumber). We know Corypheus claims he heard "Dead" whispers in The Golden City but only saw chaos and corruption. The Fade and Thedas, separated by the veil. Spirit separated from the physical... Uthenera. What if the veil was created specifically to keep body and spirit separate. What if those great dragon's are the physical representation of the Elvhen Pantheon. What if their spirits were locked away in The Fade, in the Golden City perhaps, or more likely with the use of eluvians somewhere else. Again, more questions. The Great Dragons could also have been aspects of the Elvhen Pantheon, physical representations that they created either to serve them or to use as vessels the way spirits do when they possess the living.
If The Elvhen pantheons' spirits were split from their Great Dragon bodies, it could also explain why the dragons are now savage and unable to speak "intelligibly". If my theory is right and "The Forgotten Ones" are the ones that whispered to the Magisters and are the ones who usurp the Old God bodies, then it would make sense that only the Darkspawn and Wardens hear the Archdemon communicate through the taint. The only thing that has me perplexed is the dark ritual. If Kieran has an Old God soul, what then, does that entail? FleMythal absorbs it into herself, but when she takes it out of Kieran, clearly it is immaterial, energy. This is the one flaw in my theory that is gnawing at me. Maybe awakening an Old God breaks Uthenera (like I speculated above, which could be a way to keep the Elvhen Pantheon in The Fade) and the soul is "awakened" and therefore restored. That however, would be quite a sloppy way to have imprisoned such powerful beings. I doubt Fen'Harel went through the trouble of creating the veil with Mythal if it would have been so easy... Anyways, moving forward.
If your Inquisitor is Elvhen, Kieran also goes on to say that he doesn't know why the Inquisitor's people "want to look like that" and that their blood is "very old". This could be a reference to The Old Gods as well, or at the very least a hint that the Elvhen people could shapeshift at one point (perhaps in a time before the veil), the same way Flemythal and Morrigan (if you let her drink from the well of souls) did.
If dragons ruled the skies before the veil, I wonder, would they then represent the Elvhen people. Let me elaborate. If the Elvhen people were dragons, then High Dragons maybe would represent the Elvhen High priests for example. I make this comparison because of the following quote (which ironically comes from an unlikely source).
The Tome of Koslun, the sacred Qunari scripture explicitly says that "the Old Gods were like unto dragons, as the first human kings were like unto ordinary men".
So The Elvhen Pantheon=Old Gods i.e. Great Dragons, High Dragons=Elvhen High Priests, Dragons=Elvhen People... just an interesting theory. Also don't worry about gender association. The fact that high Dragons are all females isn't important given that I don't believe this has any bearing on spirits, it is rather explained in biological terms. Also the Old Gods all being Great Dragons and mostly depicted as male would also support my opinion on the fact. Anyways, moving on.
(Sorry for that long-winded theory part but I wanted to establish my theories on the connection between Dragons & The Elvhen Pantheon before making the connection between Elvhen and Qunari for the underlined quote above)
Maybe it has less to do with the "Qunari" and more to do with Koslun. I.e. The kossith and what led to Koslun creating the Qun. I find it suspicious that Koslun would have any knowledge of the Old Gods otherwise. He was described as a traveler however and it was stated the he traveled far and wide. Perhaps he happened on the Tevinter Imperium or the time before. I forget exactly when Koslun was born.
Also it's speculated that the people from Par Vollen worshipped figures who resembled the "Qunari" race,which is why the didn't put up a fight when the Qunari invaded. This seems to be tied to Dragons somehow.
Doesn't Iron Bull mention that his people believe they were the result of mixing dragon blood and whatever their ancestors were or something?
Doesn't Iron Bull mention that his people believe they were the result of mixing dragon blood and whatever their ancestors were or something?
Yes
here is another exert of my (Major Spoilers) Accumulated Lore, Ancient (Elvhen), SolaFen + Theories & Discussions Thread
9. Qunari
Lastly, I wanted to touch on the Qunari, apart from looking really awesome, they also have very interesting roots and origins to explore. What Iron Bull speculated about the Qunari resembling dragons is quite interesting. He thinks the fact that they hold dragons as "sacred", apart from them being physically similar (horns mass etc.), might be due to the fact that the Tamassaran's somehow mixed dragon blood within their race, the same way Qunari are carefully bred for specific roles, in order to make them more formidable (physically). This is also speculated to be the cause of their violent and savage nature (the same way Koslun perceived the Kossith to be), left without the Qun to "guide" them. This also seems to be the way they perceive Dragon's, ironically.
As Iron Bull sees it "Dragons are the embodiment of raw power. But it's all uncontrolled, savage... So they need to be destroyed. Taming the wild. Order out of chaos. Have another drink." He also goes on to say " But something in that Dragon we killed... Spoke to me."
The comments stated to a Qunari (Vashoth) inquisitor by Corypheus during their final confrontation also implies the race isn't pure.
Corypheus: "Your blood is engorged with decay. You race isn't a race, it is a mistake."
Kieran also will declare (if your Inquisitor is Qunari or rather "Vashoth") that their blood "doesn't belong" to the Inquisitor's people and express his sorrow at what happened to the people.
The sorrow at what happened to the people comment, I'm guessing, has to do with what went down between the Kossith and the Qunari while his comment about their blood "not belonging" further reinforces the Dragon blood theory.
Whether this is something known to ancient Tevinter Magisters or whether it's simply the product of lingering racism based on Corypheus' arrogance and pride is unclear. Given the phrasing however, I would guess that it is in fact referring to something more tangible than simple slurs. It would make sense from a storytelling perspective at the very least. This prospect peaks my interest quite a bit. I'd love to see the ramifications of such a development and practical applications from the narrative perspective. It also brings into question the Kossith. Were they the ones that experimented on the Qunari, rather than the Tamassaran?
Bull states that the Qunari "Came to Thedas because the Kossith were... I don't know, we had to leave. The stories aren't clear. But I don't expect they look much like us... Whatever they are." (However in the official timeline, it is specifically stated that "A Kossith colony of *horned* humanoids settles in the Korcari Wilds in -410 ancient and is later obliterated by darkspawn")
The fact that the Qun has no mention of the Kossith or what they embodied or even why they left for Thedas makes Koslun's journey seem... more involved than just searching for a new way of life, which was what birthed the philosophy that became the Qun. The fact that the Kossith came to Thedas in ancient times and were attacked by The Blight makes me wonder if the encounter is what changed them (fundamentally and culturally, not physically) once they (if any survivors) returned with word of their traumatic experiences in Thedas involving darkspawn. This could be the basis of the fracture, between the Kossith and the Qunari (who returned to Thedas suspiciously armed and ready for conquest, with many dreadnaught's to boot) many centuries (in preperation?) later. I hope this is also something the Dragon Age creative team fleshes out and builds upon. It could make for many interesting possibilities.
Just going on what you've said above - if the qunari are connected to the blight - somehow corrupted or changed from the kossith by it - I think there's a large chance Solas could be involved there somewhere.
Like, their reappearance in Thedas could have something to do with that blood "decay" - perhaps it is slowly killing the qunari, or hurting them in some form? If so - it's possible that a more permanent solution is being sought in Thedas: maybe if they change/end the blight, they can change/end what's happening to them. Although I question how much world conquest has to do with that solution. Their arrival could simply just be a matter of imperialist expansion - grab more land, get more gold, gain new followers.
Although, that said, the dragon's blood theory points at what could be the root of the qun. Perhaps the kossith were dragon cultists, who began practising blood magic with dragon's blood - which had some very chaotic, horrible results which changed the race for the good - and the qun's approach to magic and order stems from that conflict. The qun does point at the idea that we're inherently corrupted, savage, and aggressive - Iron Bull states that his fear, leaving the qun, is that he'll become like that - and I wonder how much of that has a basis in reality. Was the transition from kossith to qunari so bloody that people genuinely believed that they were so innately awful? Something with a high risk potential like DRAGON BLOOD MAGIC could possibly lead to a situation where people thought as much.
There is something somewhere about Elves being susceptible to being converted to the Qun...Maybe Solas knows more about the Qun then others? He's pretty vocal about his dislike (to put it mildly) of the Qun and Qunari.
I think that's more to do with the social conditions most elves in Thedas inhabit - y'know, restricted to impoverished slums with very few prospects to improve their lot and the very real threat of racial violence if you try, if not enslaved to a human master - and much less to do with being elven. This is true even in the south (the slavery, of course, is illegal, but still occurs). The Dalish, of course, are a minority even there, who barely stray north of Orlais. For northern elves, the "traditional" elven ways aren't preserved in any form as an alternative lifestyle - there's no 'run away to join the Dalish' in the north.
Enter the qun, which provides purpose, promises stable economic conditions, and doesn't discriminate between followers. I think for someone without a place in society, and no other hope, that's quite promising. It just turns out, a lot of those people are elves.
Today is weird.
In general or on this thread?
In general or on this thread?
In general. Not on this thread. In this forum. At my work. Bah.
In general. Not on this thread. In this forum. At my work. Bah.
I have missed you randomly dropping by to give us updates on your life. Hope work goes okay and gets less weird.
Random fun fact. I was reading the Wikipedia article on guerrilla warfare when I came across this:
Mao Zedong summarized basic guerrilla tactics at the beginning of the Chinese "Second Revolutionary Civil War" as: "The enemy advances, we retreat; the enemy camps, we harass; the enemy tires, we attack; the enemy retreats, we pursue."
Sound familiar? Here's a party banter between Sera and Solas:
I have missed you randomly dropping by to give us updates on your life. Hope work goes okay and gets less weird.
lol. I can never tell if you're being serious or not. I suddenly got nervous I'm annoying everyone by randomly dropping by, though I do think I've been back a little more often.
Anyway, it's fine. Nothing a little shopping and some DLC won't fix. 
lol. I can never tell if you're being serious or not. I suddenly got nervous I'm annoying everyone by randomly dropping by, though I do think I've been back a little more often.
Anyway, it's fine. Nothing a little shopping and some DLC won't fix.
I am being serious! The thread seemed super quiet without you around.
I came back to read things...
Speaking of people who haven't been around....
Good to see you back.
I am being serious! The thread seemed super quiet without you around.
Speaking of people who haven't been around....
Good to see you back.
Thanks Illy, I'm all kinds of things for Saturday.. I'm not sure which things because they keep changing...
I came back to read things...
I thought I saw you here but then I think maybe it was on a DA tweet recently. I remember you posting here in the thread but sometimes I spot people from here in other places and it's like....wait a second...
lol. I can never tell if you're being serious or not. I suddenly got nervous I'm annoying everyone by randomly dropping by, though I do think I've been back a little more often.
Anyway, it's fine. Nothing a little shopping and some DLC won't fix.
I think it's nice to see people return, DLC or no DLC. But yes, please BioWare, load us up with more DLC.
Okay, screw it, I'm reposting this gif too.
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