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[Illyria]

Hey guys, what's up with you all this afternoon? I've finally managed to find a new flat only problem now is finding part-time work, and I'm set to start my degree in October woop woop.

 

In FAR MORE IMPORTANT NEWS I've finally started a playthrough with a male Adaar. I usually hate playing men so this will be the only time I do it. The most important question by far: who do I romance?

 

Torn between Cass and Dorian at the moment. Playing an archer rogue, believes reluctantly in the maker (which surprises most people), finds magic really spooky but tries to be nice to mages (particularly because the qun takes the opposite position issue) although isn't always successful. What do you think?

 

Cassandra.

 

But I'm biased.  I'm rolling the best mage Adaar for her.  He is going to be a sweet romantic.  He is going to be a total 'looks like he could kill, is actually a cinnamon roll' type.

 

:/ Now I'm hungry.  Someone fetch me food.

[AslinnMoonbreeze]

You know what's super annoying? I am trying to draw my Lavellan with longer hair (I really wished that there were more hair options) and a circlet (I have this thing were like, if Lavellan and Solas' romance continued he'd give her a super sweet Elven circlet to show his commitment, but most people assume she wears it due to her position (unless they ask, which most vital companions and advisor probably would)), but it looks derp. I also tried and gave up pretty quick of drawing her in a dress because I like to imagine instead of that ill-fitted old-timy navy officer get up you and everyone else had to wear to the ball she had this rad green floor-length a-line dress with like, sequins and bling (little like rows of gems and leaves) that really fits a Elf. Or like, it's what Viv takes her to her tailor had has made for all the awful noble functions she will probably get dragged to by Josie. But my brain images aren't well translated because I am not a skilled enough drawer. It's annoying. Is anyone on this board a pro-artist and can help me realise my brain images into physical things? 

 

[Abelas Forever!]

 

The game has sold very well.

 

 

 

 

The launch has been successful but without numbers it's impossible to decide whether DA:I has been profitable or not.

[midnight tea]

If I were to hazard a guess, and lore is probably out there that laughs at me, it would be because mages burn it off or because they don't have to take it every day to make their powers work? Just to do difficult things?

 

Well, according to Cole "they're heavy with forgotten songs, like Varric" and "they feel older than they look - they've been changed and their bodies are incomplete now. The lyrium helps, but their bodies always want to connect to... something older. Bigger than they are. That's how they block magic. They reach for that other thing, and magic has no room to come in."

 

...*cough*sounds Titan'ish*cough*

 

In any case, the fact that mages are inherently connected to the Fade (kinda like Titans are...?) means that their relation to lyrium might be different than those whose connection is not as strong. Personally, I got an impression that thanks to that, processed lyrium works on them like nitro works on car engines - they supplement their life-force/will with the one contained within lyrium.

 

edit: The same sensitivity might as well be a detriment when it comes to coming in touch with a creature more powerful/willful than themselves, hence exposure to raw lyrium can be fatal to mages. It might as well be similar to Dreamers - their sensitivity to the Fade lets them explore it, but at the same time being near a powerful spirit causes them tremendous pain (at least according to Solas in JoH), and who knows what else if the spirit is indeed super-powerful.

 

In any case - what interests me is how come Seekers have similar powers, yet those power seem to stem from the Fade itself. Then there's their resistance to possession OR red lyrium. I mean, red lyrium I can guess why they're resistant, since it seems that what protects from the Blight is power of the faith itself - I suppose their power to 'reinforce reality' may stem from faith itself as well.

 

Possession though? Could it be that they can't be possessed by other spirits, because - as Lucien alluded - Seekers are actually abominations, bonded through their ritual with the spirit of faith?

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

In any case - what interests me is how come Seekers have similar powers, yet those power seem to stem from the Fade itself. Then there's their resistance to possession OR red lyrium. I mean, red lyrium I can guess why they're resistant, since it seems that what protects from the Blight is power of the faith itself - I suppose their power to 'reinforce reality' may stem from faith itself as well.

You think that's why Leliana was/is resistant to the Blight, then? Although, I'd say she'd have lost her faith in the time of the Red Lyrium Future... Hmm.

[Sifr]

Cassandra.

 

But I'm biased.  I'm rolling the best mage Adaar for her.  He is going to be a sweet romantic.  He is going to be a total 'looks like he could kill, is actually a cinnamon roll' type.

 

:/ Now I'm hungry.  Someone fetch me food.

 

My male mage Adaar was the same, he looked like the Qunari version of Khal Drogo... but was actually a gentle goofball of a giant.

 

The only difference is I romanced Josephine, although I was nearly ninja'd by Cass when the conversation about flirting triggered, forcing me to reload so I could lock in Josephine before speaking to her again.

 

[midnight tea]

The launch has been successful but without numbers it's impossible to decide whether DA:I has been profitable or not.

 

Considering that EA keeps praising DAI, I can't see how this wasn't a success for them, launch or post-launch. It seems that even the recent free trial on PC was pretty successful as well, considering that they're offering it again, and the number of challenges for PC (and Xbox) players in multiplayer raised pretty significantly over months. I assume at least a portion of those PC players eventually bought full game as well.

 

Also, in one of the Eurogamer interviews from March (I think), the ever-careful Mike Laidlaw alluded that things are going pretty well for the franchise and the future's looking bright, so I have to assume that they're indeed in a secure spot.

 

Plus, when the whole old-gen drop occurred, Mark Darrah explained on twitter that one of reasons was either keep supporting old-gen or providing more DLC content for the game. From the (vague) looks of it, it appears that even though they didn't have a budget to keep supporting old-gen, Descent was a DLC they've managed to produce (with Austin) predominantly because of DAI's success.

 

Personally, I expect to measure the game's success based on the final/meatiest DLC though - if it turns out to be bigger than expected (though expectations for this DLC are already ridiculously high, IMO), yet for reasonable price, it may as well confirm that EA's was confident in the team enough to throw more money at them.

[midnight tea]

You think that's why Leliana was/is resistant to the Blight, then? Although, I'd say she'd have lost her faith in the time of the Red Lyrium Future... Hmm.

 

Her faith was damaged, but not fully broken. Don't forget that her last words in that Redcliffe future was basically her praying and asking Maker to take her to his side.

 

It may also explain why our companions may be infected, but still fare better than other inhabitants of Redcliffe Castle, even if they were captured later - it may not be faith-per se, and they may have been broken or too beaten to keep fighting, but they're all pretty strong-willed people.

 

Considering that Thedas is connected to the Fade and Fade is all about will and imagination, I really am not surprised that faith (not necessarily in the Maker) plays an important role.

[Cee]

My male mage Adaar was the same, he looked like the Qunari version of Khal Drogo... but was actually a gentle goofball of a giant.

 

The only difference is I romanced Josephine, although I was nearly ninja'd by Cass when the conversation about flirting triggered, forcing me to reload so I could lock in Josephine before speaking to her again.

 

 

I usually don't play as men when I have the option to play as women, but I am considering making one for Cass at some point. But it would be difficult not to flirt with Dorian. Both are great characters. I'd have to have a concept and don't yet, so my Trev mage is next.

 

My Lavellan had a few longing stares for Cass once she started to get to know her, but the whole straight thing wasn't gonna work and she found Solas irresistible in the end anyway.

 

 

[Avejajed]

I think some of you who have had moderator issues in the past need to come partake in the discussion and voice your issues and frustration.

 

http://forum.bioware...3#entry19603468

 

 

Let the people know who have been banned before or warned for art who don't come here anymore much, like Liz, etc.

[Sifr]

I usually don't play as men when I have the option to play as women, but I am considering making one for Cass at some point. But it would be difficult not to flirt with Dorian. Both are great characters. I'd have to have a concept and don't yet, so my Trev mage is next.

 

My Lavellan had a few longing stares for Cass once she started to get to know her, but the whole straight thing wasn't gonna work and she found Solas irresistible in the end anyway.

 

You can still flirt with Dorian and Cass as a straight female and get approval points.

 

Most of Cass' flirts are complimentary or playful teasing, so they don't sound particularly jarring coming from another woman. With Dorian, the flirts also tend to be complimenting him on his wit and charm, something he doesn't mind hearing from men or women.

 

Although I found the whole conversation where the female Inquisitor is hurt because of the incompatible orientation to be super awkward, even if it can lead to them agreeing to continue flirting for the sake of fun. I prefer to just skip that conversation entirely and pretend that they're comfortable enough with each other as friends to continue playfully flirting.

[Abelas Forever!]

Considering that EA keeps praising DAI, I can't see how this wasn't a success for them, launch or post-launch. It seems that even the recent free trial on PC was pretty successful as well, considering that they're offering it again, and the number of challenges for PC (and Xbox) players in multiplayer raised pretty significantly over months. I assume at least a portion of those PC players eventually bought full game as well.

 

Also, in one of the Eurogamer interviews from March (I think), the ever-careful Mike Laidlaw alluded that things are going pretty well for the franchise and the future's looking bright, so I have to assume that they're indeed in a secure spot.

 

Plus, when the whole old-gen drop occurred, Mark Darrah explained on twitter that one of reasons was either keep supporting old-gen or providing more DLC content for the game. From the (vague) looks of it, it appears that even though they didn't have a budget to keep supporting old-gen, Descent was a DLC they've managed to produce (with Austin) predominantly because of DAI's success.

 

Personally, I expect to measure the game's success based on the final/meatiest DLC though - if it turns out to be bigger than expected (though expectations for this DLC are already ridiculously high, IMO), yet for reasonable price, it may as well confirm that EA's was confident in the team enough to throw more money at them.

I believe that DA:I has sold well because they are still making at least one DLC and I remember hearing rumours of DA 4 but dropping old-gen was quite a surprise and because one reason for dropping them was that they can provide new DLCs for PC and new consoles doesn't really make me more confident about the future of DA series. However I believe there will be DA 4 and I'm waiting for it already

[Caddius]

Lore spirits, I have a question, which is a bit silly, but I haven't been able to figure out the answer. If both mages and templars take lyrium, why do only templars get addicted to it? I haven't seen addiction mentioned with regards to mages anywhere... Am I missing something?

I think it's because, as mentioned, mages tend to burn through it. And mages tend to drink distilled lyrium in potions, whereas Templars tend to take wafts of it through a filter. I think breathing in lyrium dust raw like that is probably more potent, and causes the addiction. Of course, it has to be more potent for regular mortals to gain power. Mages, I think, would probably get a nose-bleed or worse.

(Can mages gain the powers of a Templar? What if a hedge mage studied to be a Templar?)

Also, Sifr? You're back?

Has your Cadash playthrough also discovered the wonder of an armor with built-in Unbowed or whatever it was called?

[Cee]

You can still flirt with Dorian and Cass as a straight female and get approval points.

 

Most of Cass' flirts are complimentary or playful teasing, so they don't sound particularly jarring coming from another woman. With Dorian, the flirts also tend to be complimenting him on his wit and charm, something he doesn't mind hearing from men or women.

 

Although I found the whole conversation where the female Inquisitor is hurt because of the incompatible orientation to be super awkward, even if it can lead to them agreeing to continue flirting for the sake of fun. I prefer to just skip that conversation entirely and pretend that they're comfortable enough with each other as friends to continue playfully flirting.

 

Oh there were some Cass flirts. It's pretty adorable, at least the first couple of times I did. I didn't have her take it all the way to the rejection, but knowing Cass is straight is player meta knowledge and not something she would automatically know. I deliberately chose to play a bisexual character and once Cass dropped the suspicion and opened up a bit, it was worth a flirt or two. I think the only people I didn't have her flirt with at all were Blackwall, Dorian, and Josephine (she reminds me a bit too much of me).

 

I didn't have her flirt with Dorian though, because I stopped having her flirt with anyone else by late in Haven because of the decision to pursue Solas.

[midnight tea]

I usually don't play as men when I have the option to play as women, but I am considering making one for Cass at some point. But it would be difficult not to flirt with Dorian. Both are great characters. I'd have to have a concept and don't yet, so my Trev mage is next.

 

My Lavellan had a few longing stares for Cass once she started to get to know her, but the whole straight thing wasn't gonna work and she found Solas irresistible in the end anyway.

 

I recently finished my first male play-through and after careful consideration I've decided to go for Cass - I do plan to eventually make a cute rogue Artificer for Dorian, so in my mind they'd have playful arguments about what's superior: magic or technology

 

Dunno if Lavellan or Trevelyan again though, considering my Reaver got to be a pretty cute Trevelyan already...

 

Spoiler

 

 

You can still flirt with Dorian and Cass as a straight female and get approval points.

 

Most of Cass' flirts are complimentary or playful teasing, so they don't sound particularly jarring coming from another woman. With Dorian, the flirts also tend to be complimenting him on his wit and charm, something he doesn't mind hearing from men or women.

 

Although I found the whole conversation where the female Inquisitor is hurt because of the incompatible orientation to be super awkward, even if it can lead to them agreeing to continue flirting for the sake of fun. I prefer to just skip that conversation entirely and pretend that they're comfortable enough with each other as friends to continue playfully flirting.

 

I can never NOT flirt with Dorian with my females, it's just too adorable - they're friends, but at the same time perfectly comfortable around one another and certain of their feelings/dedication to their LIs, so there's nothing stopping them from playful teases and compliments.

[midnight tea]

I believe that DA:I has sold well because they are still making at least one DLC and I remember hearing rumours of DA 4 but dropping old-gen was quite a surprise and because one reason for dropping them was that they can provide new DLCs for PC and new consoles doesn't really make me more confident about the future of DA series. However I believe there will be DA 4 and I'm waiting for it already

 

Even more popular franchises than DA drop old-gen support in one way or another, so that really wasn't something that wasn't entirely and completely unfathomable, especially given how devs complained about old-gen limitations and how it interfered with their work. It means that BW can now spread their wings, not just because of hardware limitations, but also because of the limited size of patches for old-gen (AFAIK, those on next-gen can be ten times bigger than those on old-gen). Therefore dropping old-gen would let them spend more money on add stuff they were more technically, rather than financially, obstructed to add before.

[Cee]

I recently finished my first male play-through and after careful consideration I've decided to go for Cass - I do plan to eventually make a cute rogue Artificer for Dorian, so in my mind they'd have playful arguments about what's superior: magic or technology

 

Dunno if Lavellan or Trevelyan again though, considering my Reaver got to be a pretty cute Trevelyan already...

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

I can never NOT flirt with Dorian with my females, it's just too adorable - they're friends, but at the same time perfectly comfortable around one another and certain of their feelings towards their LIs, so there's nothing stopping them from playful teases and compliments.

 

 

Ooh, he is quite nice.

 

I wish my Lavellan had flirted a bit with Dorian since I play her mostly sincere but with a little bit of sass but I headcanon them as both really close. He's basically her best friend there, and they relate for multiple reasons. As I said, I deliberately chose to play her as bi and because of some past relationships with women, being Dalish with their whole 'go make babies' imperative, she shares a certain understanding of loving her people but also being affected by the stubbornness of their beliefs. But it also goes beyond that by far but his whole situation brought them even closer together, and he's there for her after Solas and in general.

[midnight tea]

Ooh, he is quite nice.

 

I wish my Lavellan had flirted a bit with Dorian since I play her mostly sincere but with a little bit of sass but I headcanon them as both really close. He's basically her best friend there, and they relate for multiple reasons. As I said, I deliberately chose to play her as bi and because of some past relationships with women, being Dalish with their whole 'go make babies' imperative, she shares a certain understanding of loving her people but also being affected by the stubbornness of their beliefs. But it also goes beyond that by far but his whole situation brought them even closer together, and he's there for her after Solas and in general.

 

I based Mauricius on an old character of mine that I just keep remaking (*sigh* when will I ever get you right, Marcus?)

 

Anyway, my mage Lavellan is played as witty and charming, so she teases and playfully flirts with a lot of companions, just for the sake of keeping spirits high

 

I also think that she's pretty close to Dorian (they both somewhat share the "bright, like the fish that kill you if you eat them. Can't hate you for hiding if you burn so brilliantly" trait as Cole put it, though more subdued in case of mah elf) - they also share something of a distaste for cold weather, which is why I imagine them constantly fighting for blankets in wintery places xD

 

(I also imagine my Lavellan as not being very fond of cold, but ironically being pretty good with ice spells - all this gives her a very good pretext to ask Solas for hugs to warm herself up or borrow his coat altogether Also "Aaa! Cold hands!")

[Abelas Forever!]

Even more popular franchises than DA drop old-gen support in one way or another, so that really wasn't something that wasn't entirely and completely unfathomable, especially given how devs complained about old-gen limitations and how it interfered with their work. It means that BW can now spread their wings, not just because of hardware limitations, but also because of the limited size of patches for old-gen (AFAIK, those on next-gen can be ten times bigger than those on old-gen). Therefore dropping old-gen would let them spend more money on add stuff they were more technically, rather than financially, obstructed to add before.

I just think it was surprising that they drop old-gen and I never thought they would do it. It's true that they can do now more because old-gen is dropped but I also have a hard time imaging that they would have done that if DA:I would have been very succesful on old-gen comparing to new consoles. Anyway I have yet seen numbers how profitable DA:I has been and that's why I'm quite careful with my expectations of DA 4 even though everything seems to be ok. I also think this discussion is derailing this thread so I think we better stop.

[AslinnMoonbreeze]

So, I just realised that when I did my specialisation as a Rift Mage, it opened no new dialogue with Solas, or anyone for that matter...Does anyone know why this would happen? I found a video that shows that people comment on it. I don't understand why I was never able to speak to anyone about it.

[midnight tea]

So, I just realised that when I did my specialisation as a Rift Mage, it opened no new dialogue with Solas, or anyone for that matter...Does anyone know why this would happen? I found a video that shows that people comment on it. I don't understand why I was never able to speak to anyone about it.

 

Strange, I always get comments, right after I get a specialization.... Do you do it at any particular time? Before/after something?

 

For example, I've noticed that if I complete a war table mission for specializations, one of Cole's cutscenes gets bugged (the one where he helps a woman in Skyhold) - the game seems to skip it. I had to return to one of my previous saves to fix this.

[Oswin]

 

In FAR MORE IMPORTANT NEWS I've finally started a playthrough with a male Adaar. I usually hate playing men so this will be the only time I do it. The most important question by far: who do I romance?

 

 

I'm obsessed with Dorian's glorious buttcheeks so I've romanced him on my male runs. 

I haven't successfully completed a romance outside of Solas and Dorian yet  My love of playing elves and their beautiful selves just draw me into an endless cycle.

 

Although this current DLC rumour makes me think I should boot up my Ash 'the stache' Adaar run. I think I was trying to romance Bull with him, but the thing is.. I can remember nothing of that save.

I think I had just arrived in Skyhold, but I don't remember who I sided with. Neither do I have any idea what the world state is. I think I created it from scratch in the Keep, picking options I didn't actually play. So er, no idea what gender of Hawke I will be meeting, who they romanced, who the Warden will be, who my HoF romanced, who my HoF actually is  , whether Morrigan had a child..

Did I conscript the Mages!? I think I remember Ash telling Fiona we owned them now. Aha.

I'm thinking Solas probably hates my Inquisitor in that playthrough   and if I made a world state using my non played options then, er, the mages and elves in DAO would be dead. Dead and dead. I never romanced Seb in DA2 so if I went for that then thats the Mages down and out in DA2 as well. I wonder if I let the sibling die in the deep roads...

 

...Could Loghain be the Warden!? I never let him live in my DAO runs..

 

Ok, I clearly need to get back to my Adaar save. I'm actually excited to discover what madness I created.

 

 

...and Hello again Solas Thread  happy to see this place still exists amongst the mad culling on these forums. I stopped by to post yesterday and then got caught up reading the madness. It made me reminisce about my past foruming days and then I ended up staring wistfully out the window instead of actually making any posts.  

[midnight tea]

You can check the worldstate it in the Keep - log in to the server and save the game, so it would send copy of current playthrough on your playthrough list. Then just send it to editable world-states - et voila

[Illyria]

So, I just realised that when I did my specialisation as a Rift Mage, it opened no new dialogue with Solas, or anyone for that matter...Does anyone know why this would happen? I found a video that shows that people comment on it. I don't understand why I was never able to speak to anyone about it.

 

For some reason the dialogue doesn't play if you're in a romance with him.  Get the specialisation before saving Wisdom and you should be good.

[AslinnMoonbreeze]

Strange, I always get comments, right after I get a specialization.... Do you do it at any particular time? Before/after something?

 

For example, I've noticed that if I complete a war table mission for specializations, one of Cole's cutscenes gets bugged (the one where he helps a woman in Skyhold) - the game seems to skip it. I had to return to one of my previous saves to fix this.

I went through the whole video, the only person who said anything to me was Sera. No one else seemed to. I have completed a fair few quests I suppose, but I think I hadn't gone to Adamant yet because I may have had like, a Rift Mage spell or two before I started it.