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[Avejajed]

Side note- have any of you read last flight? I'm thinking about buying it tonight.

 

Can you just imagine the intense relief Solas would feel at not having to pretend to be weaker than he was? Umffffff.

[Reznore57]

I mostly want roleplay options for elves like "WTH!!!!!WTH!!!!" if we meet Solas again.

I think after Mythal , my elf is going to...I don't know.

My elf is pro elf , but not the whole palace , immortality angle , he really like the Dalish , the whole hobo in the woods lifestyle is/was his whole identity.

Besides I imagine after seeing Flemythal , the fact that she wasn't mother of the year material ,and she's more or less past the elves'fate and bend on revenge...well I think he used brain bleach and quickly decided she was Mythal , she answered his prayers and helped , so all was fine and dandy.Let's not think too much about it.

 

So yeah...another elven God , one who may want to help the People but has a bad reputation...

I'm not sure what could happen so it's really cool and exciting.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Side note- have any of you read last flight? I'm thinking about buying it tonight.

 

Can you just imagine the intense relief Solas would feel at not having to pretend to be weaker than he was? Umffffff.

 

I don't know if there would be an enormous difference in terms of raw power.  He did mention to Mythal that he was too weak to unlock the orb when he awoke.  Artificial gameplay levels aside (since everyone is a dragon-destroying demigod by the end with the right gear and specs), that means he's at least weaker than Corypheus, even when he's not pretending.

 

IMO it's less his magical prowess that he has to conceal, and more his wisdom, knowledge, and experience.

 

 

Word! I don't want my Inky to be a special snowflake who miraculously outsmarts and defeats everyone simply by virtue of being the main character. Even the best don't consistently win, and I want that reflected in the game.

 

I think Inquisition did a good job of balancing ME's approach (where Shepard is basically Space Jesus) and DA2's approach (where Hawke is just a cosmic buttmonkey who happens to be good at killing things).  The Inquisitor is special.  Only s/he bears the Anchor, and therefore only s/he has the power to fix the crisis.  But then it takes a Harry Potter approach to the situation: it's not quizzy's abilities that are important, it's their choices, which have nothing to do with the special magical glowy hand.

[midnight tea]

I mostly want roleplay options for elves like "WTH!!!!!WTH!!!!" if we meet Solas again.

I think after Mythal , my elf is going to...I don't know.

My elf is pro elf , but not the whole palace , immortality angle , he really like the Dalish , the whole hobo in the woods lifestyle is/was his whole identity.

Besides I imagine after seeing Flemythal , the fact that she wasn't mother of the year material ,and she's more or less past the elves'fate and bend on revenge...well I think he used brain bleach and quickly decided she was Mythal , she answered his prayers and helped , so all was fine and dandy.Let's not think too much about it.

 

So yeah...another elven God , one who may want to help the People but has a bad reputation...

I'm not sure what could happen so it's really cool and exciting.

 

Yep, I keep wondering about how the Inquisitor will find out things about Solas and what would be the reaction.

 

I mean - the cat (well... wolf) is out of the bag, for audience at least, and it would be a trolling of epic proportions from Bioware's side if Inquisitor would take nearly all of the DLC to figure out who Solas actually is, when we know this already and are impatient for more details. ("Aaaargh! Just figure out this already, Inky!" *rips hair out*)

 

I assume they're going to have to introduce a situation in which the revelation will be swift an poignant (unless Quizzy will be slowly unveiling some details and figuring things out along way, while the audience learns details to piece the picture together), though the angle of the reveal may not be what we may expect...

[Cee]

I always thought the last mural sketch was done almost with a "think it to win it" approach. It's him getting behind the quizzy, almost saying "we'll win and then I'll come back to finish this off". And if they lost? Well, what else more clearly spells horrible defeat than a mural left unfinished, it's victorious ending never realised? Still, if I were his lover or good friend, I'd think it so sad afterwards to walk past the walls detailing the victories you'd made together and to see it lingering unresolved.

 

One of my favorite sad Lavellan artworks (I couldn't find it just now) is her alone, laying on the couch in the rotunda, surrounded by his art.

[Reznore57]

 

Yep, I keep wondering about how the Inquisitor will find out things about Solas and what would be the reaction.

 

I mean - the cat (well... wolf) is out of the bag, for audience at least, and it would be a trolling of epic proportions from Bioware's side if Inquisitor would take nearly all of the DLC to figure out who Solas actually is, when we know this already and are impatient for more details .

 

I assume they're going to have to introduce a situation in which the revelation will be swift an poignant, though the angle of the reveal may not be what we may expect...

 

 

Yeah but I'm just hoping for something special for elves.

I mean I'm pretty sure romance wise there's going to be something...and it's always with female elf.

Playing a male , I hope they won't wrap up most elven lore in the romance options.(cf vallaslin scene)

[midnight tea]

Yeah but I'm just hoping for something special for elves.

I mean I'm pretty sure romance wise there's going to be something...and it's always with female elf.

Playing a male , I hope they won't wrap up most elven lore in the romance options.(cf vallaslin scene)

 

Well no, I hope everyone will get their share of Solas interactions, even if the romance may get some sort of special (um, more heartbreaking  ?) treat.

[CapricornSun]

Some art before I go to bed. 

 

Lavellan pinning Solas to the ground.

Spoiler

Source: http://nanananananab...st/127707342184

 

 

Solavellan for the kiss meme: Kiss on the lips (passionate)

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Source: http://destinyaposta...7-solavallen-go

 

 

And another Solavellan for the kiss meme. (NSFW-ish however)

 

Theme: Blood

Solas done for the 100 Themes Challenge on DeviantArt.

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Source: http://solas-the-dre...e-on-deviantart

 

 

Elf BFs. (Zevran, Fenris, and Solas.)

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Source: http://maryloza.tumb...hh-yess-elfs-bd

 

 

More great sketches by esuerc.

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Source: http://esuerc.tumblr...s-is-like-a-cup

 

 

And the rest:

 

[Reznore57]

Well no, I hope everyone will get their share of Solas interactions, even if the romance may get some sort of special (um, more heartbreaking  ?) treat.

 

I just don't want the elven male Inqui to for example have the exact same thing as a human ....

Now if it happens because ressources , well it happens.

[MoonDrummer]

I mostly want roleplay options for elves like "WTH!!!!!WTH!!!!" if we meet Solas again.

Inb4

 

Solas- I am Fen'Harel

Lavellan- What is a 'Fen'Harel?'

[Sable Rhapsody]

Some art before I go to bed. 
 
Lavellan pinning Solas to the ground.

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Source: http://nanananananab...st/127707342184
 

HNNNNNNNG yessss. There is not nearly enough dom!Lavellan in this fandom.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

I don't know about you guys, but I think Solas is gonna have to put on a bit of a show to convince my Lavellan he's the Dread Wolf. (Or someone else is gonna have to present some dang near irrefutable evidence if that's how we're told at first.) Otherwise, her first reaction to him declaring it would be to ask if he'd hit his head recently. I mean, this is the same mage who accidentally sets his coat tails on fire and then adorkably plays off like it was no big thing... 

[Cee]

One reason I keep saying that I think we're not done getting our beliefs/knowledge of elven things flipped on its head again is I think there's a distinct possibility that Solas will run into some sort of trouble and may need our help if something--or someone--else rises or causes some trouble. Felassan's master maybe. Or Mythal's promised reckoning. I think Solas would have to be in some real spot before we would find out anything that big.

 

But interestingly, a 'search for Solas' was cut from the plans for the original game and the Inquisitor was originally supposed to be present in the epilogue. I wonder if witnessing something big like that may still be in the cards for DLC.

[Suketchi]

 

*cough*

 

 

Just because it's inconsiderate for an artist, it doesn't mean that there aren't those who THINK they can finish or correct their job. The Dunning-Kruger effect is a pretty prevalent cognitive bias after all.

 

Not THAT much inconsistency. It's one thing to rush a work, it's another to paint something that's so... off.

 

 

I've done it. Sometimes I've sketched something out so bad, you couldn't even tell I drew it. Depends on how fast you're trying to get it done. Also, had Solas finished it after the end of the game, he would have been pretty upset at the time. His emotional state could have a definite effect on the quality of his work.

 

I never said it hadn't been done before. But to do that, one would have to have a lack of respect for the artist. We've been given evidence that most people at Skyhold respected Solas and his work (Except Sera, but if she'd thrown something up there I think it would have involved a lot more innuendo), and he is completely capable of eluding capture or discovery. I think it's a lot less likely that there's some random artist in Skyhold suffering from the Dunning Kruger Effect than Solas returning to finish his mural... if badly.

 

That doesn't mean I think an artist finishing the mural on Solas's behalf isn't possible though. I just don't like that you're presenting 'I'm an artist' as evidence to support your theory, like it invalidates another's perspective.

[drosophila]

I'm keeping my expectations as low as possible. I expect we'll spend most of the DLC fighting people or things, get to Solas at the very end, and there will be one cutscene with him, in which a romanced Inquisitor gets a line or two.

 

They can't possibly disappoint me with expecting that, right?

[Reznore57]

I'm keeping my expectations as low as possible. I expect we'll spend most of the DLC fighting people or things, get to Solas at the very end, and there will be one cutscene with him, in which a romanced Inquisitor gets a line or two.

 

They can't possibly disappoint me with expecting that, right?

 

Depends on the size of the DLC.

 

Spoiler

In the survey it says there's problem with the Fade , and discovering some mystery about it ...so killing Qunari left and right...well I'm not sure how it gets us closer to fade trouble.

Qunari think the Fade is the place of their dead and it's taboo to go there.

[Avejajed]

Depends on the size of the DLC.

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In the survey it says there's problem with the Fade , and discovering some mystery about it ...so killing Qunari left and right...well I'm not sure how it gets us closer to fade trouble.
Qunari think the Fade is the place of their dead and it's taboo to go there.

They do? I never knew that. Is that last part in a codex? I believe you, I just want to read it. That might be the connection I was hopelessly looking for to connect Solas and the Qunari in a way that would make sense with the survey leak.

[midnight tea]

I've done it. Sometimes I've sketched something out so bad, you couldn't even tell I drew it. Depends on how fast you're trying to get it done. Also, had Solas finished it after the end of the game, he would have been pretty upset at the time. His emotional state could have a definite effect on the quality of his work.

 

Hence the reason to assume he didn't do it at all. He's way too distraught and has different things on his mind. There's no reason whatsoever to assume that he's done it, knowing how emotionally wrecked he seemed to be. "Finishing" a mural would likely be the last thing on his mind.

 

Also - a mural of this size is not something a person can scribble on a piece of paper in 5 minutes. Solas would have to literally fly on some sort of magical ladder to draw something of that size, at this height.

 

 

 

I never said it hadn't been done before. But to do that, one would have to have a lack of respect for the artist. We've been given evidence that most people at Skyhold respected Solas and his work (Except Sera, but if she'd thrown something up there I think it would have involved a lot more innuendo), and he is completely capable of eluding capture or discovery. I think it's a lot less likely that there's some random artist in Skyhold suffering from the Dunning Kruger Effect than Solas returning to finish his mural... if badly.

 

It is still a way more logical proposition than Solas returning to Skyhold and scribbling something so inept and without anybody noticing it. For me, Solas doing this is badly out of character for him, especially considering the circumstances. It will blow my mind if it's ever clearly implied that he in fact did it.

 

And like I said - it's been at least a month since he left after we regain control of Inquisitor post-epilogue. We may never know whether someone joined the Inquisition at that time, saw a mural and decided that something so grand - yet lacking the depiction of grandest achievement of Inquisition - has to be finished, even if badly.

 

 

 

That doesn't mean I think an artist finishing the mural on Solas's behalf isn't possible though. I just don't like that you're presenting 'I'm an artist' as evidence to support your theory, like it invalidates another's perspective.

 

Hang on... I mentioned that I'm an artist, which is definitely one of main reasons I have so many doubts over the last panel's authorship, but most of my comments consisted of painstakingly pointing out what's wrong with the picture and listed evidence and reasons why I don't think it's his work, or what I think it is. It cannot be claimed that my argument is solely or even predominantly based on "I'm an artist, I know", or I invalidated somebody's opinion like that. That was not my intention.

[midnight tea]

I'm keeping my expectations as low as possible. I expect we'll spend most of the DLC fighting people or things, get to Solas at the very end, and there will be one cutscene with him, in which a romanced Inquisitor gets a line or two.

 

They can't possibly disappoint me with expecting that, right?

 

I'm trying to purge myself of all expectations and speculations, but how much of a 'clean slate' I'd be while I get this DLC and actually play it will likely depend when it's going to be released and what we'll find out during Pax Prime...

[Reznore57]

They do? I never knew that. Is that last part in a codex? I believe you, I just want to read it. That might be the connection I was hopelessly looking for to connect Solas and the Qunari in a way that would make sense with the survey leak.

 

From World of Thedas 1 page 143

 

"The Qunari believe the Fade is the Land of the Dead.Entering it in any fashion is strickly forbidden by the Qun, and the idea that a sleeping Qunari might ever enter such a realm is reprehensible.

Qunari insist that they do not dream as others do.Since they are rarely encountered in the Fade ,it can be hard to refute this claim."

[NightSymphony]

One of my favorite sad Lavellan artworks (I couldn't find it just now) is her alone, laying on the couch in the rotunda, surrounded by his art.

That's one of my favorites too. So much feels.

[Sable Rhapsody]

From World of Thedas 1 page 143
 
"The Qunari believe the Fade is the Land of the Dead.Entering it in any fashion is strickly forbidden by the Qun, and the idea that a sleeping Qunari might ever enter such a realm is reprehensible.
Qunari insist that they do not dream as others do.Since they are rarely encountered in the Fade ,it can be hard to refute this claim."

Interesting. Why would you rarely encounter qunari in the Fade?  Maybe it's simply because most other races never deal with the qunari on a regular basis; kind of like in real life, if you have no relation to them, you'd have no reason to dream about them or interact with a dreaming qunari.  But they have mages, who function under more-or-less the same rules of magic, so they're not like dwarves.

 

I'm starting to wonder if their brutal treatment of mages is rooted in something practical, and not just an outgrowth of the Qun's focus on order.  There does seem to be something about qunari biology that makes them prone to violence (as per Bull's description of the Tal-Vashoth).  Maybe it's amplified in mages?  Or maybe their mages are fundamentally different from the rest of their population and that makes them capable of reaching the Fade (though that's a bit of a stretch).
 

[DarthEmpress]

I'm keeping my expectations as low as possible. I expect we'll spend most of the DLC fighting people or things, get to Solas at the very end, and there will be one cutscene with him, in which a romanced Inquisitor gets a line or two.

 

They can't possibly disappoint me with expecting that, right?

 

How about they don't reference the romance at all?

 

[Reznore57]

Interesting. Why would you rarely encounter qunari in the Fade?  Maybe it's simply because most other races never deal with the qunari on a regular basis; kind of like in real life, if you have no relation to them, you'd have no reason to dream about them or interact with a dreaming qunari.  But they have mages, who function under more-or-less the same rules of magic, so they're not like dwarves.

 

I'm starting to wonder if their brutal treatment of mages is rooted in something practical, and not just an outgrowth of the Qun's focus on order.  There does seem to be something about qunari biology that makes them prone to violence (as per Bull's description of the Tal-Vashoth).  Maybe it's amplified in mages?  Or maybe their mages are fundamentally different from the rest of their population and that makes them capable of reaching the Fade (though that's a bit of a stretch).
 

 

The Qunari are weird about magic...I mean in DA2 the Arvaraad (?) acts like you're contagious or something..I mean he throw a fit just because as a mage you've been talking to him .

Even Meredith looked saner than that.

[midnight tea]

How about they don't reference the romance at all?

 

There would be an angry mobs marching with torches and pitchforks at Bioware bases, calling for ritual sacrifices, methinks