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[Cee]

I may be to late to the well drinking part but this is how i see it Solas took only Mythal's power and since she agrees from the dev notes that she is giving this power to him as long as she passes her godhood to Morrigan it may be her that may control the inquisitor in the end and not Solas.She does passes something through the eluvian what it is? (her essence/part of her to be reborn again or pass to Morrigan?) we don't know yet for sure:)

 

 

David Gaider noted those notes are legacy and may not still be the case - in other words, it could've been changed or could be changed, depending on the future path.

 

 

It will all just depend on if the geas was transferred to Solas or not. I think it was, and I think that outcome is going to be vastly different than any other. Did anyone here have a non-romanced, non-friendly playthrough with Solas? I wonder what he'll be like if he hated the Inquisitor and the inquisition. 

 

IMO, Morrigan will be the new Mythal (Mythal has unfinished business) and the geas will pass to her. In my world state, she'd be yoked to herself. It would end there.

[Cee]

Start out describing the lighting and its effects on the room, maybe? Or the temperature if that's special? Some tactile quality.

 

This, or even a really basic sketch can help orient you. I was stuck on a scene transition for two months until I finished that one I just put up the other day. I wrote other things in between but that one thing just escaped me. Until I figured out how to drop and change it.

 

It's always a good tactic to at least go through the senses if you're stuck on a place description. What does this look like? Size, colors, depth. What features do I need in here for the story that I have planned? What does it smell like? Doesn't even have to make perfect sense. Sometimes a room can 'smell' warm, apart from feel. How does it feel? What do you hear? (Alternately, what things are in this room or in the setting, that might create sound -- or is silence important?)

 

I kept at the scraps after The Descent's boss royally kicked me to the ground, and I'll be giving both another go today.

 

 

[Abelas Forever!]

I believe that the people who were bound to Mythal are controlled by her power and not her godhood and that's why I believe that those people are now bound to Solas. Whatever the truth is I think that they are either bound to Solas or to Morrigan. I don't think they are free because then drinking from the well wouldn't have much impact on the events.

[FrankWisdom]

I wrote a post about it: https://www.reddit.c...las_fresco_you/ .

 

Damn it Fern, now you have me questioning my decisions and harping on the different depictions.

 

It would seem at first glance that overall, doing Here Lies The Abyss first brings about the best results.

 

 

 

Here wee see Celene sitting on her throne, high and Golden, the lack of shadowed black also bods well. The main difference in this depiction is the assassin, clad in white and standing right beside Celine Rather than further down. The white in my opinion indicates that this person is trusted and the fact that s/he is beside Celene would indicate that she is close to them. The white could also indicate that the assassin does not need to hide any longer and is exposed, but not caught. The dagger however is black, meaning that the assassin is dangerous and because of his/her position, can strike with deadly intent. Then there's the people in the ball. In this picture they are also surrounded by white. I believe this indicates that they leave content with the outcome from the events that happened at the Winter Palace. So what if the nightmare demon didn't just affect the grey wardens. What if it also affected the Orlesian people. It could have created civil unrest that led to the civil war or worsened the ensuing chaos and fear. It could also have affected Celene and her advisors personally to weaken the political power & stability in the region, to make them ripe for the picking. That would make sense given Corypheus' plans.

 

As for The Here Lies the Abyss fresco, I wonder what the runes imply. I'd contend they are a positive thing but I have nothing to back that up with really. Could they represent a binding of sorts? Why would completing Here lies the Abyss before Helping Celene have an impact of that kind? Maybe the clue is in the name? Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts, also pertaining to the nightmare demon?

 

 

 

Then there is my Fresco. I always did Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts first, so I never saw a different depiction and for that I thank you Fern, wouldn't had even known it existed if it wasn't for you

 

Here lies the more ominous depiction. The people are nowhere to be seen, overshadowed, as it were. The Assassin here is still lurking in the shadows much further away from Celene. Although he seems more menacing, his/her dagger is white. This makes me feel like s/he isn't a threat yet. They are not positioned right yet in order to strike. What interests me most however is that Celene is not on her throne but rather she seems to be standing in front of an eluvian, alone. The eluvian is also depicted with black, as if foreboding with ominous and mysterious events yet to come.

 

Anyways,if any of you guys saw differences having played both orders let me know. I'm interested to hear your interpretations as well.

[Illyria]

I actually suspect he might. Maybe not to an extent Cole does (him erasing Cole's memories results in Cole recounting his last spoken words), but he does appear to be able to affect people, be it as an expert Dreamer, someone with strong link to the Fade and knowledge of spirits, or as ancient elf and a potential god.

 

We do know that he can basically kick Inquisitor from the Fade with a simple 'wake up', we also do know that he has at least a peek into someone's memories or emotional state (remember how he tells Cole about templar's pain and regret, in Cole's personal quest? Or how he feels that's familiarity between him and Blackwall, even if the details of Blackwall's past eluded him?), or make himself or his emotional state 'invisible' even to Cole - there are also suggestions from both Solas and Weekes that, throughout his romance, Solas may have even considered forgetting some things himself.

 

Solas tells Inquisitor that he's not forgotten their kiss in the Fade (which I wouldn't be surprised that he considered), while Weekes said (in NerdAppropriate interview) that Solas is ready to 'lose himself and forget about the past' - and in both cases I think they mean it very literally.

 

Thinking about it - maybe you're right and Solas can affect memories.  But I disagree that Weekes meant either of those lines to be taken literally, though.

[FrankWisdom]

Ignore this, was a double post... Sorry!

[drosophila]

This, or even a really basic sketch can help orient you. I was stuck on a scene transition for two months until I finished that one I just put up the other day. I wrote other things in between but that one thing just escaped me. Until I figured out how to drop and change it.

 

It's always a good tactic to at least go through the senses if you're stuck on a place description. What does this look like? Size, colors, depth. What features do I need in here for the story that I have planned? What does it smell like? Doesn't even have to make perfect sense. Sometimes a room can 'smell' warm, apart from feel. How does it feel? What do you hear? (Alternately, what things are in this room or in the setting, that might create sound -- or is silence important?)

 

 

Thanks SO much both to you and AlleluiaElizabeth, you guys rock!  I'm a little less stuck thanks to your feedback, since I relize now I should've thought about *all* the senses (duh!) instead of just wondering what the furniture looks like. 

 

 I kept at the scraps after The Descent's boss royally kicked me to the ground, and I'll be giving both another go today.

 

Have fun with it! 

 

I hope I can write some more today and finish up my 2nd chapter. Given that now I've been without sleep for more than 24hrs, I'm kinda curious what I'll come up with and whether it will make any sense tomorrow morning.   

[Uirebhiril]

I'm in the "Morrigan has the leash now" camp in regards to who drank from the Well. I'd be surprised if it were otherwise, but I suppose anything is possible.

 

Finding out would be great... cause it would mean a DLC.... Maybe. It might not touch on any of the subjects so many of us here would like it to, and then we'll have three years to wait.

[Cee]

I hope I can write some more today and finish up my 2nd chapter. Given that now I've been without sleep for more than 24hrs, I'm kinda curious what I'll come up with and whether it will make any sense tomorrow morning.   

 

This might be wonderful for stream of consciousness writing.

[Illyria]

Ignore this, was a double post... Sorry!

 

Thank to me you didn't have a double post!

 

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So it seems that Solavellan fans have a bad rep on tumblr.  This is one of the chillest group of people I've met online.  We maybe need to make more noise on tumblr to drown out the bad eggs (pun so intended).

[drosophila]

This might be wonderful for stream of consciousness writing.

 

I wouldn't exactly call it consciousness at this point.

[Cee]

 

So it seems that Solavellan fans have a bad rep on tumblr.  This is one of the chillest group of people I've met online.  We maybe need to make more noise on tumblr to drown out the bad eggs (pun so intended).

 

I keep seeing people saying this and it's a real disconnect sometimes when compared to experiences in here.

 

I've been only a little active on Tumblr lately since I saw some early Descent spoilers but I don't see all these terrible fans people keep talking about. So either it's really curated (it helps that the Solavellan fans I've followed spread out initially from this thread) or maybe slightly overblown or is the usual Tumblr drama that can happen in a fandom.

[Cee]

I wouldn't exactly call it consciousness at this point.

 

I used to sometimes fall asleep with a pen in my hand and I would occasionally scribble lines. They pretty much never made sense but it's kind of fascinating what sleepy brains can come up with. I also talk involuntarily, especially when I'm drifting to sleep. The nonsense my sleepy mind can come out with has inspired inside jokes for years, but I never remember them myself. My boyfriend's favorite from last week was when I apparently said "I got snakes".  But there is a snake in the dream story I'm trying to write (!). The snake should be the first indicator that this is a dream my Lavellan is having.

 

Oh and I managed to add more angst to her future in a few lines that I got last night. Because the game is written so that all possible Inquisitor candidates could have been there at the same time and the ones you didn't select technically die, I always planned to have her and the clan's First travel together.

 

I....just never planned to make him basically her little sister's promised until now.

 

Angst and feels, angst and feels. This is me.

[drosophila]

I used to sometimes fall asleep with a pen in my hand and I would occasionally scribble lines. They pretty much never made sense but it's kind of fascinating what sleepy brains can come up with. I also talk involuntarily, especially when I'm drifting to sleep. The nonsense my sleepy mind can come out with has inspired inside jokes for years, but I never remember them myself. My boyfriend's favorite from last week was when I apparently said "I got snakes".  But there is a snake in the dream story I'm trying to write (!). The snake should be the first indicator that this is a dream my Lavellan is having.

 

I don't come up with stuff when I dream or drift off, I'm actually an insomniac (even when I don't have to stay up), so the hours between midnight and 3 am are less like peacefully drifting off and more like a struggle to enter sleepiness. Then like a light switch I fall asleep and I can't actually remember the moments in between. Sometimes I would come up with stuff at night, but if that happens I get so excited it becomes even more difficult to sleep. 

 

I usually daydream a lot. I'd be walking and listening to music, or doing some manual task. The music influences me a lot. That's when I come up with all the dialogue, and yes, sometimes I get carried away and would say those lines out loud, and yes, I probably sound like a weirdo.

 

Is your Lavellan afraid of snakes or somehting?

 

 

 

 Oh and I managed to add more angst to her future in a few lines that I got last night. Because the game is written so that all possible Inquisitor candidates could have been there at the same time and the ones you didn't select technically die, I always planned to have her and the clan's First travel together.

 

I....just never planned to make him basically her little sister's promised until now.

 

Angst and feels, angst and feels. This is me.

 

Is that a love triangle story? Should be fun to read! (Or with your angst, soul-wrenching probably )

[Shari'El]

Damn it Fern, now you have me questioning my decisions and harping on the different depictions.

 

<snippy snippy snip snip>

 

Anyways,if any of you guys saw differences having played both orders let me know. I'm interested to hear your interpretations as well.

 

Well I usually do Here Lies The Abyss First, but in the current PT I went and did Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts first in hope of making Alistair and Morrigan talk.

I did feel there was some minor dialogue added, people in Western Approach referencing dancing in ballrooms and such, it was a nice touch, but besides that nothing. On the other hand, if you do Here Lies The Abyss first there isn't any dialogue about that... So doing WE&WH first gives a bit extra content.

 

If the ball would've existed in two different dates then you could argue that the fact we go to the later ball that Celene is in more danger because the culprit is now closer (at light) and more dangerous, but it's the same ball, it doesn't change. The differences between the frescoes seem to be mainly aesthetic changes to match the previously painted fresco, I am, however baffled by those runes, those aren't necessary to complete the flow between the paintings, so why are they there?

 

Several pages ago I tried to determine what those runes were, and although I wrote it half-jokingly, the runes all look like math symbols, so there's that.

[Lady Artifice]

My favorite thing about the Solas romance is the variety of ways you can play it. Drink from the well or don't. Lose the vallaslin or don't. And that break up scene gives you so many different reaction options. It all creates a significantly different experience. I think it's more variable--in a way, personalized--than any other romance arc. 

 

I do sometimes wish the friendship had the potential for more depth, though. I appreciate what there was, but I really don't think I could get enough Solas content. 

[AslinnMoonbreeze]

I posted my wolf jaw on twitter and @ed it at DA and Patrick Weekes. Patrick favourited it, and DA asked me again when I'd be finished. I started to assemble his jumper/sweater tonight. The collar is a bit of a pain lol. I still need to do his shoes though which I am putting off...Because of the like, weaved leather thing.

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Off topic, but does anyone know how I can add an external link to stuff on here? I was trying to add a link to my signature to link it to my FB page and nothing worked. I know some people in this thread have done it. 

[Illyria]

Bioware PAX schedule is up.

[Cee]

I usually daydream a lot. I'd be walking and listening to music, or doing some manual task. The music influences me a lot. That's when I come up with all the dialogue, and yes, sometimes I get carried away and would say those lines out loud, and yes, I probably sound like a weirdo.

 

Is your Lavellan afraid of snakes or somehting?

 

I do the coming up with things out loud sometimes too. On the street sometimes, and then I notice someone nearby and maybe try to look less weird.

 

No, it's a dream, and the snake is merely symbolic.

 

 

Is that a love triangle story? Should be fun to read! (Or with your angst, soul-wrenching probably )

 

 

Ha, no. My Lavellan wasn't with or interested in anyone before leaving for the Conclave.

 

Her sister, who always admired her and idolized her, was always supportive of her regardless of who she loved, man or woman, or the fact she hadn't had children at that point.

 

Yet her sister was always going to react with skepticism and fear over her return with no vallaslin and wondering what's going on. I just added fuel by maybe killing off her promised, who went off with her sister at the last she saw of him.   Not that it's my Lavellan's fault, but it's just added pain on top of the confusion.

[Cee]

 Off topic, but does anyone know how I can add an external link to stuff on here? I was trying to add a link to my signature to link it to my FB page and nothing worked. I know some people in this thread have done it. 

 

You have to edit your profile and then click signature on the side. It's like layers of forumception.

 

I just went to check mine and apparently I set my status to "Cheese" some time ago.

[Uirebhiril]

 

I just went to check mine and apparently I set my status to "Cheese" some time ago.

 

....Alistair?

[CapricornSun]

Thank to me you didn't have a double post!

 

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So it seems that Solavellan fans have a bad rep on tumblr.  This is one of the chillest group of people I've met online.  We maybe need to make more noise on tumblr to drown out the bad eggs (pun so intended).

 

From what I've been seeing, on the Solas and Solavellan tags on Tumblr at least, is that Solavellan fans have been shamed or made fun of for playing their Lavellans in a certain way. I might be wrong but that's my observation anyway. 

[AslinnMoonbreeze]

You have to edit your profile and then click signature on the side. It's like layers of forumception.

 

I just went to check mine and apparently I set my status to "Cheese" some time ago.

What's the actually like, way of adding a thing that says "Facebook" but is a link? I cannot for the life of me find another that let's me add an external link and I tried using HTML for it also. 

[FernRain]

Brief post before sleep:

 

That was an interesting interpretation of the fresco Frank! I had wondered about the extra people in white.

 

I'm still curious about the whole thing, especially the fade runes (which first lead me to look into it, found out about the change on the wiki). What do you make of the warden's shield being cast in either dark or light?

 

A part of me says "design flow", though the other part of me wants to dream. And speaking of dreaming, I'm off to the fade .

[Uirebhiril]

From what I've been seeing, on the Solas and Solavellan tags on Tumblr at least, is that Solavellan fans have been shamed or made fun of for playing their Lavellans in a certain way. I might be wrong but that's my observation anyway. 

 

I've always thought one of the best thing about Solas and the romance is that you can be anyone you damn well please. Young, naive and inexperienced in the world and/or in love? Fine! World-weary veteran with a history and past? Sure! Mage, rogue, or someone that likes to hit things until they fall down? No problem. Some might not like how much is left open to interpretation with the romance, but honestly, that's what gives us such flexibility to have our Lavellans be whoever we imagine them to be. So how can someone be doing it wrong? There is no wrong, and that's the beauty of it.