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I've always thought one of the best thing about Solas and the romance is that you can be anyone you damn well please. Young, naive and inexperienced in the world and/or in love? Fine! World-weary veteran with a history and past? Sure! Mage, rogue, or someone that likes to hit things until they fall down? No problem. Some might not like how much is left open to interpretation with the romance, but honestly, that's what gives us such flexibility to have our Lavellans be whoever we imagine them to be. So how can someone be doing it wrong? There is no wrong, and that's the beauty of it.

 

Well, that's not exactly how it works, does it?:) If Lavellans do enough things that Solas disapprove, or not much he does, they're not going to befriend him, much less romance him. Lavellans may be naive or experienced, gruff or charming, but it seems they always have to be curious, open-minded, intelligent and empathetic to a significant degree.


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I've always thought one of the best thing about Solas and the romance is that you can be anyone you damn well please. Young, naive and inexperienced in the world and/or in love? Fine! World-weary veteran with a history and past? Sure! Mage, rogue, or someone that likes to hit things until they fall down? No problem. Some might not like how much is left open to interpretation with the romance, but honestly, that's what gives us such flexibility to have our Lavellans be whoever we imagine them to be. So how can someone be doing it wrong? There is no wrong, and that's the beauty of it.

 

I agree! *sigh* Unfortunately that doesn't stop certain people on Tumblr from making you feel like you're playing your Lavellan (or any Inky for that matter) the "wrong" way. I know I've felt that way a few times and it's kind of upsetting because I love my Lavellan to bits. :(


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What's the actually like, way of adding a thing that says "Facebook" but is a link? I cannot for the life of me find another that let's me add an external link and I tried using HTML for it also. 

 

Write the word, highlight it, then insert link.

 

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I agree! *sigh* Unfortunately that doesn't stop certain people on Tumblr from making you feel like you're playing your Lavellan (or any Inky for that matter) the "wrong" way. I know I've felt that way a few times and it's kind of upsetting because I love my Lavellan to bits. :(

 

I was curious and went on tumblr to try to find some of these criticisms but got distracted by all the awesome art :)



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Well, that's not exactly how it works, does it? :) If Lavellans do enough things that Solas disapprove, or not much he does, they're not going to befriend him, much less romance him. Lavellans may be naive or experienced, gruff or charming, but it seems they always have to be curious, open-minded, intelligent and empathetic to a significant degree.

 

No Lavellan I ever knew was anything less than intelligent and curious and beautiful and everything Solas could ever want.   ;)

 

Also I am VERY attached to my Lavellan, she is my little perfect snowflake.


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I've always thought one of the best thing about Solas and the romance is that you can be anyone you damn well please. Young, naive and inexperienced in the world and/or in love? Fine! World-weary veteran with a history and past? Sure! Mage, rogue, or someone that likes to hit things until they fall down? No problem. Some might not like how much is left open to interpretation with the romance, but honestly, that's what gives us such flexibility to have our Lavellans be whoever we imagine them to be. So how can someone be doing it wrong? There is no wrong, and that's the beauty of it.

 

I play my Lavellan as a young woman who is trying to find her place in the world. Cole tells you that you are struggling to speak the language of your ancestors, therefore I see my Lavellan as more human than elf because of that, so she's a Dalish that no one's ever truly encountered before, and people are drawn to that because she changes their views on what a Dalish is, and through her romance with Solas, he too realizes she's not just any typical Dalish who distrusts everyone and calls humans shems. She's more than that and that's why humans, elves and dwarves alike have welcomed her as their Herald.

 

That's how I like playing it, but that does not mean everyone should play it that way. Anyone who forces a certain view is being very single-minded.


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Well, that's not exactly how it works, does it? :) If Lavellans do enough things that Solas disapprove, or not much he does, they're not going to befriend him, much less romance him. Lavellans may be naive or experienced, gruff or charming, but it seems they always have to be curious, open-minded, intelligent and empathetic to a significant degree.

 

Well, yes. This is said with the assumption that everyone knows the type Solas likes. Of course you have to have a certain baseline for approval and attraction to flourish. But within that confine is where your Lavellan can be their own person, so if you want to play a blushing virgin that likes to kill people or a Lavellan with a libido to rival Bull's, but hates the sight of blood and death, it's your party.


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From what I've been seeing, on the Solas and Solavellan tags on Tumblr at least, is that Solavellan fans have been shamed or made fun of for playing their Lavellans in a certain way. I might be wrong but that's my observation anyway. 

 

What the hell?


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No Lavellan I ever knew was anything less than intelligent and curious and beautiful and everything Solas could ever want.   ;)

 

It still means that those are traits all of his beloved versions of Lavellans share ;) Which, you know - isn't to say that his preferences mean that's someone's playing game 'right' or 'wrong', merely that just like any other developed character he does have preferences and things he wants or admires - he's not loving any Lavellans absolutely unconditionally.



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It still means that those are traits all of his beloved versions of Lavellans share ;) Which, you know - isn't to say that his preferences mean that's someone's playing game 'right' or 'wrong', merely that just like any other developed character he does have preferences and things he wants or admires - he's not loving any Lavellans absolutely unconditionally.

 

I found that as a human he still admired those same traits you have, but without the ability to flirt, it never went past a bond that formed over mutual respect, time and understanding. In the end, Solas will always care for your Inquisitor, no matter their sex or race if you have high approval with him. It just branches off into something deeper if you are a female elf.


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Bless you sweet child lol.

I play my Lavellan as a young woman who is trying to find her place in the world. Cole tells you that you are struggling to speak the language of your ancestors, therefore I see my Lavellan as more human than elf because of that, so she's a Dalish that no one's ever truly encountered before, and people are drawn to that because she changes their views on what a Dalish is, and through her romance with Solas, he too realizes she's not just any typical Dalish who distrusts everyone and calls humans shems. She's more than that and that's why humans, elves and dwarves alike have welcomed her as their Herald.
 
That's how I like playing it, but that does not mean everyone should play it that way. Anyone who forces a certain view is being very single-minded.


I image my Lavellan as an outcast from her clan. While she and her Keeper got along, most others didn't really like her because she was more open minded about the world and if Dalish stuff was true (like she followed it mostly out of duty and not wanting to be ostracised further). So when Solas comes along and talks about all this stuff she considers it and accepts it and helps her grow lol. She's ver thoughtful of what he tells her.

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Eh, people will be people no matter where they are. And unfortunately "idiots" fall under people too. I wonder, has anyone tried a romance by building approval via quests and asking questions, but taking the opposite options when it comes to the main plot points (i.e. conscripting Mages, keeping the Wardens etc.) I'd love to see if it's possible to essentially play as the antithesis of what he would choose but still having enough approval to romance him. I wonder how much those "Solas Slightly Approves" add up and if they can counterbalance the main approval losses?


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Eh, people will be people no matter where they are. And unfortunately "idiots" fall under people too. I wonder, has anyone tried a romance by building approval via quests and asking questions, but taking the opposite options when it comes to the main plot points (i.e. conscripting Mages, keeping the Wardens etc.) I'd love to see if it's possible to essentially play as the antithesis of what he would chose but still having enough approval to romance him. I wonder how much those "Solas Slightly Approves" add up and if they can counterbalance the main approval losses?

 

I allied with the Templars, stopped him from killing the mages who summoned Wisdom, kept the Wardens and made Cole human, and Solas still loved my Lavellan. It's the little things that keep the approval up. Same with Cole. If you have him join you and ally with the Templars and you have not done anything to help the people in the Hinterlands, he will dislike you immediately.


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There is a certain cynicism that comes with anything after a period of time.  There are certain...consistent tropes...that seem to crop up in a lot of the quizzies so I mean if people are sort of lampooning it then it's just what people do. With literally anything ever.  If it's mean-spirited then yeah - they are a-holes -- but if it's just to poke fun a bit at it then ignore it or laugh.   

 

On the flip side - as I've said before - there is a certain contingent that is just straight up aggressive about their headcanons.  And how they view Solas. And what is the proper way a Lavellan has to be with Solas. It's very off-putting.  Like - my friend got vague-blogged - about how she chose the final romance dialogue. The person was like 'the lavellan is abusive" that says this. And using a bunch of insanely charged language.  No. That's not community minded. That's just being hateful. 

 

If I find an OC boring or weird or whatever - I tend to completely ignore it though.   I let people keep on keepin' on.  Be free!



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Some art.

 

The villagers asked Fen'Harel how he would save them, and he said to them

'When did I say that I would save you?'

 

Solavellan cuddles. Slightly NSFW.

 

Solas can do magic! POP! Your heart is now broken! :P

 

Solas with glowy eyes.

 

NightSymphony posted this earlier, but here's the Tumblr version.

 

Still a WIP but a Star Wars-DAI crossover! I bet this'll look amazing when finished. :lol:


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Re: The Lavellan criticism: It's probably because a certain male mage is so awesome, he blew everyone out of the water with his trident. Enjoy.


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I allied with the Templars, stopped him from killing the mages who summoned Wisdom, kept the Wardens and made Cole human, and Solas still loved my Lavellan. It's the little things that keep the approval up. Same with Cole. If you have him join you and ally with the Templars and you have not done anything to help the people in the Hinterlands, he will dislike you immediately.

 

Ah, but did you also, drink from the well and kill off the temple guardians?



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I experienced plenty of leeway with the Solas romance: Lavellan allied with templars, kept wardens, told him blood magic and the fade are dangerous, drank from the well, but because she took him everywhere the romance still locked in.

 

My husband played his Cadash as an impossible jerk, never helped anyone and never took Solas anywhere, but because he allied with the mages, he still got the friendship balcony scene. Solas told Cadash how wise and subtle he is right after killing his friend. 

 

Solas just seems to have boundless patience, IMO.

 

 

Eh, people will be people no matter where they are. And unfortunately "idiots" fall under people too. I wonder, has anyone tried a romance by building approval via quests and asking questions, but taking the opposite options when it comes to the main plot points (i.e. conscripting Mages, keeping the Wardens etc.) I'd love to see if it's possible to essentially play as the antithesis of what he would choose but still having enough approval to romance him. I wonder how much those "Solas Slightly Approves" add up and if they can counterbalance the main approval losses?

 

Yeah, it worked! 



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I found that as a human he still admired those same traits you have, but without the ability to flirt, it never went past a bond that formed over mutual respect, time and understanding. In the end, Solas will always care for your Inquisitor, no matter their sex or race if you have high approval with him. It just branches off into something deeper if you are a female elf.

 

True - I also mean it in terms of friendship. A liked Inquisitor of any sort will always have to exhibit traits he values.

 

 

Eh, people will be people no matter where they are. And unfortunately "idiots" fall under people too. I wonder, has anyone tried a romance by building approval via quests and asking questions, but taking the opposite options when it comes to the main plot points (i.e. conscripting Mages, keeping the Wardens etc.) I'd love to see if it's possible to essentially play as the antithesis of what he would choose but still having enough approval to romance him. I wonder how much those "Solas Slightly Approves" add up and if they can counterbalance the main approval losses?

 

Well, I mentioned a while ago that Solas seems to like completionists, which story-wise likely means that the Inquisitor must be hard-working and pretty empathetic, at least on a certain scale, that they'd complete all these small requests people across Thedas have. While he doesn't have loyalty quests the like of Cassandra, Dorian or Blackwall, there's a ton of 'slight approvals' and a motherload of 'approvals' scattered all throughout the map, IF you know where to look for them - approval can be raised even further if people pick certain judgment options as well.

 

With that said - isn't saving or killing Wisdom the crucial decision in the romance?


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Except for Inquisitor Kenny Powers. I can't ignore him. he wouldn't let me.


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Ah, but did you also, drink from the well and kill off the temple guardians?

 

Unfortunately I am against both of those, so I never do them. I will test it though, as I am now curious to see how far his approval goes before I break him.  :lol:

 

 

True - I also mean it in terms of friendship. A liked Inquisitor of any sort will always have to exhibit traits he values.

 
lol yeah and since some of the dialogue is recycled, he sounds like he's flirting with all of them sometimes.

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I experienced plenty of leeway with the Solas romance: Lavellan allied with templars, kept wardens, told him blood magic and the fade are dangerous, drank from the well, but because she took him everywhere the romance still locked in.

 

Did you also kill the temple guardians? That's a major one too. :)

 

 

My husband played his Cadash as an impossible jerk, never helped anyone and never took Solas anywhere, but because he allied with the mages, he still got the friendship balcony scene. Solas told Cadash how wise and subtle he is right after killing his friend. 

 

I wonder if this is a bug? Because in the Keep if you don't pick "helped Solas free his friend" it won't let you pick "was friends with Solas". Or does it?

 

 

I only have one Inquisitor that didn't find some ground to get along with Solas, and I'm playing her right now. It's kinda feels weird for me to be on Solas' bad side for the first time. :lol:

 

 

 

Unfortunately I am against both of those, so I never do them. I will test it though, as I am now curious to see how far his approval goes before I break him.

 

 

Oh cool, let us know how it goes! :)


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Hahaha, yeah. The thing is, it's all a game mechanic (sorry folks, he's not real) so there'll be ways to gimp the system. At least it's a better way than DAO, where the following would happen:

 

Solas: Inquisitor, you are a terrible person! You have conscripted the Mages, making you no better than Tevinter. You express disgust and suspicion at anything you do not comprehend while never taking time to learn of it. You grasp at any power available regardless of the consequences to those under your care. Never, in my darkest of dreams, could I have imagined a more deceitful, power-hungry...

 

Inquisitor: *holds up a shiny book on the Fade in one hand and a cupcake in the other*

 

Solas: ...is that an ancient text on the Fade and a double chocolate chunk cupcake?

 

Inquisitor: It's got a salted caramel center too...the cupcake that is. The book's just full of words.

 

Solas: Vhenan! I love you! You are wonder. Keep bringing the cakes while I go sketch a giant heart on the walls with our initials in it!


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One thing I have to say regarding the romance though, is again on Tumblr, you get a lot of hate for him from females who romanced him, but I feel that it's not completely justified. He tells you over and over it would not work out and you get the choice to play on his weakness (feelings for you) and make him fall for you. He has no choice but to end it and he never went past kissing you, yet Blackwall is forgiven for leaving you naked in the stables after sex and plans to die without telling you. I never really understood how Solas could be worse.


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I wonder if this is a bug? Because in the Keep if you don't pick "helped Solas free his friend" it won't let you pick "was friends with Solas". Or does it?

 

I hate to quote myself but I just checked. The keep does let you be friends with Solas even if you kill Wisdom. Weird. :blink:

 

EDIT: It still lets me kill Wisdom and stay romanced! I wonder if the Keep is working the way it's supposed to for that?


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