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Other plotlines have done the same thing tho really like

 

mages or templars / omg the circle system good or bad?? for 3 games now

qunari rumors of invasion, mini invasion and invasion-invasion for 3 games now

 

etc

 

they're just central running plot threads.


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This whole deal still is really new. It was never addressed in either DAO or DA2.

It was only introduced in Inquisition. Before this point, the elven gods weren't different from the Maker.
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Other plotlines have done the same thing tho really like

 

mages or templars / omg the circle system good or bad?? for 3 games now

qunari rumors of invasion, mini invasion and invasion-invasion for 3 games now

 

etc

 

they're just central running plot threads.

 

Not to mention that I kind of thought that was the point of the Dragon Age franchise.  Dealing with this whole thing because now it all comes to a head.  Each game deals with a piece of it and the story unfolds slowly throughout each game.  Kind of like how Mass Effect dealt with the Reapers.  It wasn't just Reapers in game 1 and then done it was Reapers across all 3 games.


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Other plotlines have done the same thing tho really like

 

mages or templars / omg the circle system good or bad?? for 3 games now

qunari rumors of invasion, mini invasion and invasion-invasion for 3 games now

 

etc

 

they're just central running plot threads.

 

Mages and templars tensions plotline started in second game and then continued in inquisition and was finished one way or another.

Plot in first place never was focused on qunari invasion , qunari in kirkwall plotline started in da 2 was finished in da 2 as well. 

 

 

This whole deal still is really new. It was never addressed in either DAO or DA2.

It was only introduced in Inquisition. Before this point, the elven gods weren't different from the Maker.

Plotline was introduced already in dao along with flemeth with that they didn't reveal too much and each time they drag it providing little more information.

 

 

Not to mention that I kind of thought that was the point of the Dragon Age franchise.  Dealing with this whole thing because now it all comes to a head.  Each game deals with a piece of it and the story unfolds slowly throughout each game.  Kind of like how Mass Effect dealt with the Reapers.  It wasn't just Reapers in game 1 and then done it was Reapers across all 3 games.

Mass Effect was trilogy and centred on 1 character and in 1 bigger threat , while dragon age suppose to be separate games about world rather than single character what they do rather poorly considering they continue to drag old plotlines into new games same for old characters.



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So.....I may or may not have taken some screenshots from the trailer...cropped...and then turned up the brightness to take a look at some fascinating wall art.

 

Spoiler

 

Spoiler

 

Thoughts?

For some reason I want to say that person in the bottom of the second pic is a Kajhit, but I know that isn't true. It just really looks like a Kajhit to me.

But the top ones look like elves, and considering the prominent use of the eluvians I think we're going to be spending a lot of time in Elvhen temples. I think the events of The Masked Empire are going to come into play in this DLC.


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I've wondered what that box was about, could be June's knot! Nice spotting :).

 

And yes the vallaslin does look like June's.

 

Looks like there are real spheres implanted into the mural along the bottom.

 

I so enjoy mulling over the art in Thedas.. :rolleyes:.



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I've wondered what that box was about, could be June's knot! Nice spotting :).

 

And yes the vallaslin does look like June's.

 

Looks like there are real spheres implanted into the mural along the bottom.

 

I so enjoy mulling over the art in Thedas.. :rolleyes:.

I'm out of likes, but happy to know I don't come off totally crazy for thinking that could be June's Knot.

 

If, and this is total out there theory, this is June's temple and we see spheres everywhere....I wonder if June is the one who made foci for the pantheon members. I mean....he crafted things.

 

....which then....it would make sense right....that everyone went there....cause the means to fix a certain broken foci I know of could be in his temple.

 

Oh help me if we get to go to June's temple. I just my flip my desk out of happiness.


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I think eventually we'll have a game dedicated to some crisis or some situation the elven gods have concocted - I mean, arguably Inquisition is inadvertently that, but I hope for a world-changing event which was deliberately caused, where the gods step out of the shadows.

 

DA:I wasn't really the right game to introduce the entire pantheon. The game began as something very chantry-centric, and depicted faith in a traditional way (for most western audiences, at least), and prior to the Temple of Mythal at the very end, it's thought most elven gods are little more than myths and legends. It seems the dragon age team want to show us that the reality of the pantheon is much more complex than what exists in legend - I think a lot of this includes fleshing out characters, which we've seen with Flemeth and Solas, showing the complexity that arises from being in an unique position, rather that introducing them as cookie-cutter arrogant, vengeful, power-hungry god villains. Which means they can't squish it in at the end of Inquisition.

 

DA:O and DA2 would have been the wrong places for such a plot revelation. DA:O was primarily focussed on introducing the darkspawn and the blight, and DA2 has a human protagonist looking at contemporary struggles between templars/mages, where "ancient magic" didn't play a big role (that plot was introduced in DA:O too - see the plot arc in the circle tower, or half your conversations with Alistair and Morrigan). 

 

I don't see why 'three games' is the absolute maximum a plot can be dealt with. Really, the pantheon plot has only been on the sidelines until now. They were possibly dragging out hints about Flemeth, sure, in DA:O/DA2, but as a fully fleshed idea it's only began to take root in DA:I.

 

Plus, it's too large a plot element to make anything other than an entire game dedicated to it, and it's introduced too late to make DA:I about it.

 

It's late and I was scrolling through my Tumblr feed (which of course is flooded with DLC stuff), and uh... that over the shoulder still of Solas kept popping up. I couldn't help myself.

Spoiler

 

I actually would fancy him a thousand times more if this was true.


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Plotline was introduced already in dao along with flemeth with that they didn't reveal too much and each time they drag it providing little more information.


Ehh, little hints don't count. It hadn't effectively become part of the main story yet.

I do agree about mages and templars, though. Always the same thing. I hope Inquisition has resolved that for good.

As for the Qunari, I'd rather only see them again when it's time to have their grand scale invasion.
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Tiny art break

 

LOL..Poor Solas...Elfy Revenge comic

http://peanutchan.de...venge-557125381

 

Solas sketch

http://sabbysan.devi...-Wolf-557167813


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Ehh, little hints don't count. It hadn't effectively become part of the main story yet.

I do agree about mages and templars, though. Always the same thing. I hope Inquisition has resolved that for good.

It wasn't just hints ,flemeth and morrigan story was introduced in dao , then more in da 2 and in dai and it still continues with that plot introduced new character in this plot. Pretty much like was with reapers in ME trilogy despite frist game provided little on them other game still went on reapers thing with that me is done with reapers after trilogy and we move on into completly new stuff.

 

Yeah, i doubt it will be come back as it was finished.



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Someone on tumblr showed a little comparison.

 

Then:

 

tumblr_ngt0ka3FeO1tslr8vo1_r1_500.gif

Source: http://maeves-child....-moment-my-life

 

And now:

 

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Source: http://rosewaterhag....80/trespasser-x

 

Ugh! My heart. :crying:


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*waves at all the returning people*

 

Good to see everyone again!

 

I see also that there are small Team Optimism flag around here.  I thought I got rid of them all.

 

*hands out giant TO flags to all*


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I rather prefer a grand, overarching storyline with interconnected plotlines rather than doing random stuff for no apparent reason.  A war is happening!  Why?  We have no idea, go stop it anyway!  But to each their own.


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Wow, it has been ages since I last went online here...but damn, sudden hype! I cannot WAIT for this DLC and will devour another playthrough with my most beloved Lavellan of all time or possibly a new one on Nightmare (which I have never played before) until then. I do have a lot of time on my hands right now, so yeah, definitely want to play Dragon Age Inquisition all over again! For the Solas feels, of course. So, favourite Lavellan of all time or a completely new Lavellan? So many options!



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Personally, I think it would be kind of weird to have a happily-ever-after between the inquisitor and Solas. The power dynamic alone is super weird, not to mention the lifespan issue or the fact that he's got Important Business in future games. It would be challenging to portray an ongoing relationship in a way that didn't turn Lavellan into arm candy.

But all this talk of Morrigan is reminding me that Morriganmancers are now technically with an elven god, since Mythal intended to pass "the essence of her godhood" to Morrigan (whatever that means). So maybe I'm overselling the weirdness to myself.

I got around this in my headcanon for my Lavellan by coming up with a story that her parents were actually Elvhen, and had spent like...Frick knows how long wander and trying to stay ahead of something that was after them. They ended up meeting with Clan Lavellan and were trading with them when mama Inquisitor went into labour. The parents decided to stick around for a bit, but since they lack an really sense of time like, 5 years past. They should of enjoyed being around others anyway. But, basically, this is why like only the Keeper liked my Lavellan and the rest of the Clan sort of like, shunned her. Because she had magics fairly early and a stronger connection to the Fade. Eventually the parents are like, "Oh ****, because we suck at time we have been here too long" and then sense the thing that was after them coming so then leave the future Inquisitor in the care of Keeper Lavellan and run off and get killed. You are never told the truth until later. But this is why you ended up with the Anchor, and seem to have a pretty good ability at controlling it, it was a sort of destiny thing, and you were supposed to meet Solas and help him (but you becoming Inquisitor and helping Thedas was not destine, you're just an amazing person lol). I had this idea that it would be possible for Solas to channel his power through you/your Anchor because it's power comes from his orb.

I am planning to write down my headcanon, I did start, but I have uni and costumes to do. And now also the DLC to finish in prep for Trespasser lol. I like my headcanon but I am sure other people probably wouldn't. I just thought I'd mention it because it gets around that pesky problem with him being immortal and you not so you can live together forever literally haha. 


Plus, I guess there is always a chance that if Solas is able to free the Elven Gods that current elves may regain their long life spans, magic and connection to the Fade. He does want to "save his people" after all, perhaps this is what he is trying to accomplish (it's what I think he is trying to do anyway). 



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Someone on tumblr showed a little comparison.

 

Then:

 

tumblr_ngt0ka3FeO1tslr8vo1_r1_500.gif

Source: http://maeves-child....-moment-my-life

 

And now:

 

tumblr_inline_ntwgbfuSkO1qkpyf6_500.gif

Source: http://rosewaterhag....80/trespasser-x

 

Ugh! My heart. :crying:

 

I woke up and thought it had been a dream. 

 

I went on the forum. It wasn't a dream. 

 

The feels are very real. Solas  :crying:  :crying:  :crying:

 

(The caffeine hasn't kicked in, obviously)


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It wasn't just hints ,flemeth and morrigan story was introduced in dao , then more in da 2 and in dai and it still continues with that plot introduced new character in this plot. Pretty much like was with reapers in ME trilogy despite frist game provided little on them other game still went on reapers thing with that me is done with reapers after trilogy and we move on into completly new stuff.
 
Yeah, i doubt it will be come back as it was finished.


Well, the characters themselves were introduced but not their ties to the elven pantheon.

Heck, before Inquisition came out we had no idea what Flemeth meant when she told Merril "Do you know who I am, beyond that title?"

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*waves at all the returning people*

 

Good to see everyone again!

 

I see also that there are small Team Optimism flag around here.  I thought I got rid of them all.

 

*hands out giant TO flags to all*

 

*waves Team Optimism flag enthusiastically*

I seriously can't contain my excitement!


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I've basically just been screaming like the aliens in Galaxy Quest since I saw the leaked trailer.

 

I need to do some art.


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I rather prefer a grand, overarching storyline with interconnected plotlines rather than doing random stuff for no apparent reason.  A war is happening!  Why?  We have no idea, go stop it anyway!  But to each their own.

You aren't doing random stuff for not reason just because it isn't connected previous plotlines.War is happening because for an example tevinter suffers succession crisis, doesn't have to be connected in anything from dao , da 2 or dai. 

 

Well, the characters themselves were introduced but not their ties to the elven pantheon.

Heck, before Inquisition came out we had no idea what Flemeth meant when she told Merril "Do you know who I am, beyond that title?"

 

As well their plotlines that continue to that day , that they revealed flemeth was mythal doesn't change it goes since first game ,as it didn't change pretty much me trilogy was about reapers threat even if they reveal more information about them through games

 

So pretty much it is only one piece of puzzle in plotline they started in dao.



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Dragon Age: Inquisition Trespasser DLC is trending on Facebook :D


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Dragon Age: Inquisition Trespasser DLC is trending on Facebook :D

As it should be.


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I think eventually we'll have a game dedicated to some crisis or some situation the elven gods have concocted - I mean, arguably Inquisition is inadvertently that, but I hope for a world-changing event which was deliberately caused, where the gods step out of the shadows.

 

DA:I wasn't really the right game to introduce the entire pantheon. The game began as something very chantry-centric, and depicted faith in a traditional way (for most western audiences, at least), and prior to the Temple of Mythal at the very end, it's thought most elven gods are little more than myths and legends. It seems the dragon age team want to show us that the reality of the pantheon is much more complex than what exists in legend - I think a lot of this includes fleshing out characters, which we've seen with Flemeth and Solas, showing the complexity that arises from being in an unique position, rather that introducing them as cookie-cutter arrogant, vengeful, power-hungry god villains. Which means they can't squish it in at the end of Inquisition.

 

DA:O and DA2 would have been the wrong places for such a plot revelation. DA:O was primarily focussed on introducing the darkspawn and the blight, and DA2 has a human protagonist looking at contemporary struggles between templars/mages, where "ancient magic" didn't play a big role (that plot was introduced in DA:O too - see the plot arc in the circle tower, or half your conversations with Alistair and Morrigan). 

 

I don't see why 'three games' is the absolute maximum a plot can be dealt with. Really, the pantheon plot has only been on the sidelines until now. They were possibly dragging out hints about Flemeth, sure, in DA:O/DA2, but as a fully fleshed idea it's only began to take root in DA:I.

 

Plus, it's too large a plot element to make anything other than an entire game dedicated to it, and it's introduced too late to make DA:I about it.

 

 

I actually would fancy him a thousand times more if this was true.

Oh, thank the Gods, someone other than me brought this up. I was afraid I was the only one who had seen it.

In my opinion, given the previous storylines and the true nature of recurring characters and Morrigan's mission, the return of the Elvhen and the Elvhen Pantheon is the only possibility I can see. And I am *very* happy about that. If it's done right, we may *finally* see the true, inter- and intra-personal consequences of two differing systems of belief clashing - and it isn't as if there isn't any real history to draw from. They have the entirety of European history, from pre-history up to the pagan revival movements to... well... *now.* Every confrontation between family members, every friend who thinks their helping but is in reality systematically trying to destroy someone's entire belief system, to priests whispering in people's ears spreading lies and deciet, to the peasants who see someone different and in turn automatically think their evil, to the battle-hardened warriors who give their lives to protect the farmers and craftsmen from invading forces, to the mother who has to kneel with a blade at her throat and watch her children be decapitated because they are loyal to their beliefs, and the child scared for their life and has to spend the rest of it shunned and in hiding, pretending to be a "good" convert - all the while under survelliance because no one really trusts a convert.

However, i don't think EA would go that far, being an American company and all who's too afraid of Fox News to wipe their own arses without permission. To truly do that scenario justice you need an R18+ rating, and they would never give a DA title that rating. Even movies don't do it, books about it are almost never published, and history documentaries barely scratch the surface unless the prevailant religious group of an area is portrayed as the victims. It's a shame. That is a really, really meaty subject, one a writer can really sink their teeth in to.

For now I am just so very happy we have Fen back! *Screams enthusiastically until she can't speak anymore, waving the TO flag!*


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More art.

 

nanananananablr's art of Solas and Lavellan from the "I suspect you have questions" scene.

 

Well, I didn't expect that ending. :P (Solavellan)

 

"Why do I still love you?" (Solavellan) :(

 

Never leave a girl without an explanation. (Solas and Lavellan) D:

 

Inquisitor wants to know where Sandal is. xD

 

Tumblr version of the Solas sketch NS posted earlier.


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